Talk:Wintersday Gift

Statistics
&larr; moved from talk:Wintersday 2006

Note: Any rows added after Xapheus' data has not been calculated into the total gifts and percentages. Xapheus 04:13, 4 January 2007 (CST)



!2 Eggnogs!!2 Fruitcakes!!2 Snowman Summoners!!2 Spiked Eggnogs!!1 Yuletide Tonic!!2 Wintergreen Candy Canes!!1 Rainbow Candy Cane!!1 Peppermint Candy Cane!!10 Candy Cane Shards!!Total!!Signature
 * 7 || 7 || 7 || 5 || 5 || 8 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 48 || JP 11:51, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * 5 || 7 || 15 || 5 || 2 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 4 || 56 || Greven 06:47, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * 1 || 3 || 1 || 4 || 0 || 2 || 3 || 1 || 2 || 17 || JP 13:02, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * 98 || 74  || 89  || 44  || 58  || 46  || 50  || 43 || 20  || 522  || Rafal 13:22, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * 11 || 4 || 6 || 6 || 2 || 3 || 4 || 3 || 4 || 43 || Separ 13:27, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * 2 || 4 || 5 || 4 || 7 || 2 || 4 || 7 || 0 || 35 || Gordon Ecker 23:10, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * 6 || 6 || 7 || 3 || 2 || 7 || 5 || 5 || 2 || 43 || Qrystal 00:44, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 0 || 3 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 0 || 3 || 4 || 1 || 17 || Crazytreeboy 00:48, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 19 || 20 || 27 || 9 || 13 || 12 || 16 || 17 || 7 || 140 || Foo 00:44, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 147 || 160 || 135 || 116 || 98 || 105 || 98 || 102 || 40 || 1000 || Foo 09:33, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 16 || 25 || 26 || 19 || 16 || 21 || 9 || 12 || 5 || 149 || Xapheus 14:03, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 1 || 5 || 6 || 0 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 2 || 1 || 17 || BMW 18:00, 3 January 2007 (CST)
 * 0 || 0 || 1 || 3 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 1 || 8 ||&mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 312	||313	||320	||217	||205	||212	||201	||203	||88	||2070|| Totals
 * 15.1%	||15.1%	||15.4%	||10.4%	||9.9%	||10.2%	||9.7%	||9.8%	||4.2%	||100%||Percentages
 * }
 * 19 || 20 || 27 || 9 || 13 || 12 || 16 || 17 || 7 || 140 || Foo 00:44, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 147 || 160 || 135 || 116 || 98 || 105 || 98 || 102 || 40 || 1000 || Foo 09:33, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 16 || 25 || 26 || 19 || 16 || 21 || 9 || 12 || 5 || 149 || Xapheus 14:03, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * 1 || 5 || 6 || 0 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 2 || 1 || 17 || BMW 18:00, 3 January 2007 (CST)
 * 0 || 0 || 1 || 3 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 1 || 8 ||&mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 312	||313	||320	||217	||205	||212	||201	||203	||88	||2070|| Totals
 * 15.1%	||15.1%	||15.4%	||10.4%	||9.9%	||10.2%	||9.7%	||9.8%	||4.2%	||100%||Percentages
 * }
 * 0 || 0 || 1 || 3 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 1 || 8 ||&mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 312	||313	||320	||217	||205	||212	||201	||203	||88	||2070|| Totals
 * 15.1%	||15.1%	||15.4%	||10.4%	||9.9%	||10.2%	||9.7%	||9.8%	||4.2%	||100%||Percentages
 * }
 * 15.1%	||15.1%	||15.4%	||10.4%	||9.9%	||10.2%	||9.7%	||9.8%	||4.2%	||100%||Percentages
 * }
 * }
 * }

Statistics Talk
Thought it would be of benefit to make a table for this. --JP 11:51, 1 January 2007 (CST)


 * Good idea - I deleted my previous comments and put my total stats into table (I hope I didnt mess anything as table has different order of items than mine :P) Rafal 13:22, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * Removed interim percentages and added totals to make it easier to drop into Excel for recalculation Separ 13:34, 1 January 2007 (CST)
 * I've updated my amount (added 300 opened gifts: 222->522) but I dont have Excel for autoupdate results - please can someone do it for me ;) Rafal 08:22, 2 January 2007 (CST)

My numbers - 16 of 1 rainbow, 17 of 1 peppermint, 12 of 2 wintergreen, 13 of 1 tonics, 9 of 2 spiked, 19 of 2 nogs, 27 of 2 summoners, 20 of 2 cakes, 7 of 10 shards - total of 140. no time to put it in the table. but feel free to add it and strike my comment. Foo 00:44, 2 January 2007 (CST) -moved to table - Greven 01:11, 2 January 2007 (CST)

I won't put mine in table because I don't have an accurate count of the number of CC shards I got (since they were used in the ring game). But I'll post something anyway. 12 Yuletide, 11 (22) spiked Eggnog, 14 (28) regular eggnog, 9 (18) Wintergreen CC, 19 (38) Fruitcake, 11 Rainbow CC, 4 Peppermint. Parenthesis represent the number of items. The number outside of parenthesis is the actual number of gifts. Xapheus 04:04, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * Add- 13 (26) Snowman Summoners. Since the gift collector appeared, I posted better results to the table, and recalculated everything. Xapheus 14:03, 2 January 2007 (CST)

By looking at results it seems that gifts were "programmed" to give 3 common contents (with chance 15%), 5 uncommon (10%) and one rare (5%). Rafal 08:36, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * I agree. I updated the table and it looks even more likely. Xapheus 14:03, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * That being said, should we remove our experimental values from the actual article and pass Rafal's thoughts (15/10/5) as fact? Xapheus 14:13, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * Looking at the numbers, I vote yes. Foo 14:22, 2 January 2007 (CST)

I clarified the disclaimer concerning drop probabilities. Just for reference, the equation for N samples is E = 1 / (2 * sqrt(N)) for the (usual) one sigma confidence level, which for N = 2070 is a bit over 1%. Quite a catch there, Foo! --Tmakinen 04:10, 3 January 2007 (CST)


 * Hehe, thanks. I'm proud to supply EXACTLY half the data. too bad kurt isn't here to supply data from another 5000 presents... (and I was worried about clicking my mouse 3000 times for those...) :] Foo 11:09, 3 January 2007 (CST)


 * 1140/2070 > 0.5. You actually supplied about 55% percent (which isn't exactly half) unless I'm reading something wrong in the data.  Xapheus 16:57, 3 January 2007 (CST)


 * No, you are right. I just thought of 70/140 instead of 140/70 :] Foo 03:43, 4 January 2007 (CST)


 * Haha, glad we could help eachother with math. (Recall Talk:Wintergreen_weapon, haha.) Xapheus 04:12, 4 January 2007 (CST)

Winter Gift
[quote]This article is about the Wintersday Gifts of 2006 and 2007. For the similarly named Winter Gifts of 2005 and 2006, see Winter Gift.[/quote] This is incorrect, you can get Winter Gifts in 2007.


 * Sorry forgot to sign this Unindal 22:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

time
"After a time if a gift has not been claimed by the owner they are available to anyone."

I think it's 10 minutes as in explorable areas. Poke 09:59, 1 January 2007 (CST)


 * Yeah. Everyone was scurrying to get the AFK ppl's presents. Rokasomee 11:53, 1 January 2007 (PST)

those percentage's dont add up to 100%
for : * Common (15%) contents o 2 Eggnogs (15.1%) o 2 Fruitcakes (15.1%) o 2 Snowman Summoner (15.4%)

* Uncommon (10%) contents o 2 Spiked Eggnogs (10.4%) o 1 Yuletide Tonic (9.9%) o 2 Wintergreen Candy Canes (10.2%) o 1 Rainbow Candy Cane (9.7%) o 1 Peppermint Candy Cane (9.8%)

* Rare (5%) contents o 10 Candy Cane Shards (4.2%) 15.1 + 15.1 + 15.4 + 10.4 + 9.9 + 10.2 + 9.7 + 9.8 + 4.2 = 99.8% ( according to my uber-maths & google ) and yes, i was bored... ^^ 81.206.79.118 14:47, 29 December 2007 (UTC)