User talk:Dirael/Pokemon group

Wabafet (sp?) owns that stupid cactus thingy. I am stupid to the new versions. I barely know anything past the first 151. lol -- Sk8  (T)  (C)  22:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wobbuffet... he's banned in all legitimate tournaments, lol. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow... Pokemon... That's sad. [[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  22:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Isn't it? I at least know slightly more about pokemon then MTG though lol-- [[Image:Isk8.png]] Sk8  (T)  (C)  22:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Begone, vile cynic!


 * FELIX used ROAR!
 * ENTREA SUMATAE ran away!  [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't really say anything, because I used to play. On an unrelated topic, I need to find someone who still collects Pokemon cards and is stupid enough to pay a couple hundred bucks for a rare, old one.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  23:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Contributing to a wiki is already epic lulz, you might as well play pokemon to complete the effect :P --Shadowcrest 23:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Find someone who will buy my Yugi-Oh! cards while you're at it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I still have my old Pokemon and Yugioh cards :P -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] Sk8 (T)  (C)  23:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have one word: ebay. I just need to stop being lazy.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  23:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You could also hock them on Pojo, if you're willing to put up with those slouches. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What 1 rare card are we talking about out of curiosity? -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] Sk8 (T)  (C)  23:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (EC) Eh, I can't find my Gardevior deck... that thing pwned. Probably couldn't sell it for much, but it was a semi-fun game to play. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  23:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I got a Holographic Charizard from the original set (that's how long ago I collected them).Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  23:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Base set isn't even legal for play. I have all those guys too- Chansey and Raichu and Machamp and all that good stuff. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I had 2 really good decks, Psyshock (Psychic+Electirc) and Bloodbath (Fire+Water) Both those decks kicked ass. Not bad Entrea, thats the 1 card I never got my hands on.  Settled for a holographic Japanese dark Charizard instead.  too many ec's damnit -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  (T)  (C)  23:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Seriously? You can't even use the original cards anymore? Then I need to find someone who likes old, useless stuff.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why cant you use the old cards anymore? Id imagine they still have competitions with legacy cards only? -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8 (T)  (C)  23:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd suspect they're still legal, rules can't have changed that much. But I know from seeing a couple that even the best ones would get creamed in modern battles.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, I'm nerding out about Pokemon cards. Run away! Run away!<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nintendo stripped Wizards of the Coast of all rights to Pokemon and declared their cards illegal for official tournament play many years ago. I don't know the specifics, I was already out of that particular TCG by then. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wierd. Still, someone must like old, rare, useless stuff, and they'll be on eBay.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh sure, people collect them. They're relatively rare. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Moved part
Go back to Veridian City imo. 22:15, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have a cousin Giovanni. Veridian city is plagued by some grumpy loser who wants coffee. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice. And actually, I'm busy training in Old Chateau. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïöъäñňï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone knows his Effort Values. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Riolu's got a strong Sp. Atk. Nature and maxed IVs to match, too. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand natures and EVs, just not IVs. But perhaps this isn't the page to explain them. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Aura Sphere abuse, rofl rofl. Really the most overpowered move to date- Fighting-type, 90 power I could accept. 90 power with 20pp... well, that's a bit high, but okay. 90 power, 20pp, special-based? Poor Energy Ball... 90 power, 20pp, special-based, CAN'T MISS?! I calls teh br0ken! [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * IV = Individual Value, or Independent Value, I forget which. Basically, each stat is determined in advance on a pokemon by its IVs- you can only influence its growth through EVs. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe its individual. So you have to spend teh ages breeding and hoping for good IVs? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You got it Shadow. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 22:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. I bred over 200 Ralts before I got one I deigned worthy of being my Gallade. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Owow. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Got lucky on mine, first try had everything I needed. I don't normally go for max, but I don't complain when it happens, either. IVs, my current stats.
 * P.S.: If anyone wants an Eevee, I've got thirty spares. Did you know, females are quite rare. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You have a 12.5% chance of a female, iirc. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (ecx2)Of course, half of that was because only a male Ralts can become a Gallade. I don't want to think about how many female Adamant Ralts I threw away. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (EC) Tell that to the 29 males frolicking in my PC box.
 * ...don't forget, this is a Mafia game. We should probably get back on that before RT kills someone just to shut us up. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You ppl got issues, I haven't touched pokemon since Red/Blue/Yellow. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8 (T)  (C)  22:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Shadow, go start a /Pokemon group we can all spam. 22:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Mebbe you have issues Isk :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, just add yourselves to this list, imo. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sort of proud to say that I haven't even thought about pokemon since I finished yellow version. (And yes I do mean finished)--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  22:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I got lazy. I beat all games, then after I beat yellow, ported my strongest over to my blue, to level with rare candies (ya know, the missing number).  I have one hell of a powerhouse team on my blue version though lol.  Never lost a battle with them.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  (T)  (C)  22:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I take three hour car rides every other weekend, and Pokemon is flat out entertaining, honestly. Sure, if people at school knew I'd be practically exiled, but hey, they're not the ones going to WV :P  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That, and GW is getting less entertaining by the day. If I could play my gamecube and watch RC at the same time (with my uber 1337 mind reading telekinetic powers) I would. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't join bulbapedia, I've sworn that serebii.net shall be my only pokemon resource. Btw, put your tv next to your pc. You have to move your chair back to play Wii games though. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I currently lack the authority to make such a decision, and the computer is on a very awkward desk. This computer is in the middle of a family room, where we eat. Cause we're weird like that. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That is weird. I stay shut up in my room all day. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

so
I be training for the Palkia mountain, and I cba to press start and look up the name Mt Coronet, I remembered. 42-42-40-40-39-18 (a HM slave bibarel). And I are bored pwning Snovers and Sneasels suck. /rant --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  01:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * leveling up during the main storyline in pokemon is overrated. and tedious. Cress Arvein(Talk) 01:16, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. Rather bored atm. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  01:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, I barely put any work into training for the storyline, I just get high enough level that I don't insta-die against Gym leaders. One of the first things I always do is find a Pokemon I like more then my Starter, then train that. Luxray in Pearl... I think I used an Arcanine for most of LeafGreen (or did I get him later? Can't remember)... and so on.
 * And Sneasel's one of my favorite pokemon, so watch your mouth there! Weavile's even in the OU tier, I've got a level 60~ one I use for pwning Battle Tower. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  01:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll never use anything that dies to Mach Punch... [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's why you plan out your team, and have something to switch into that won't die. Such as a Ghost-type?
 * Immunity to Psychic more then makes up for the weakness to Fighting. And Ice has a bunch of uses as well, aside from shooting down Dragon- and Flying-types. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the last thing I did that was semi-competitive was the Gamestop tournament last summer. My team was Leafeon (grossly underrated, great skills for a physical wall), Metagross, Gallade, Jolteon, something I don't remember but possibly Starmie, and Dialga cuz they was all nubz. I won ofc, and got a free copy of Pokemon Battle Revolution. Which I would never have paid for, as it's a ripsuck. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm? >_< yeaaaa...diamond i thinks....kk, lol--Varon Searer 03:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeh, I'm trying to train a Leafeon as well. Never noticed how strong the attack was on that thing, when I noticed, I just had to train one. I've got a Metagross on one of my other games, just because it's awesome...
 * ...they let you use Dialga? Wow, that would have been an awesome tourny to enter. Rayquaza > Mewtwo > Deoxys > Palkia. Training's for nubs, winning's where it's at. :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * EVs in Attack and Speed imo, although Defense is always an option if you're of a mind to capitalize on strengths. My moveset is Leaf Blade, Sunny Day, Synthesis, X-Scissor. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Mudkipz
is a copyvio. I thought you would know better by now >.> (T/C) 04:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It has apparently been a copyvio for over half a year. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Someone really ought to draw a Mudkipz. Or do what Auron did :D [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 04:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Googling for a copylefted Mudkip image replacement, I found this and couldn't resist linking to it, since its obviously an inside joke with somebody.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  04:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * But with whom >_> <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19.px]] 04:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And if anyone didn't know, Auron happens to be quite good at Pokemon. :D I've played against him on Wi-Fi before... beat him once (because I was using an Uber), and lost once using tournament-legal teams (although I put up a good fight to the end).
 * Hmm, and I've been on a bit of a Pokemon fanart stint lately... perhaps it's time for a Mudkip image... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Pokemon for battling is all well and good. But if we had to talk best looks...Plusle is my personal favorite of all. It's so cute ^^ [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just scrolled through the entire new pokedex. I like Absol.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  05:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Really? So do I. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Super Luck Adamant Absol with a Scope Lens (or w/e it's called). So many criticals. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what he said. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

K yeah, but I did it like 8 months ago. 05:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * But he still mentioned it first. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * D: [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike! Go! Go. Chat with your new best buddy. (he's mostly on PvX lately, I think.) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Choice Band Togekiss with Hustle? XD [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Another nice one. I really like the Serene Grace effect actually... Jirachi does that well enough already though. :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  06:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, Serene Grace Air Slash. 60% flinch. Disgustingly effective. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 06:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

as suggested by felix
I asked felix what he would run in game. And since I could almost be outdone by a dog, I'll assume felix knows what he's talking about. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 00:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

team

 * Leafeon w/ Leaf Guard (no other options)
 * Jolteon w/ Volt Absorb (no other options)
 * Starmie w/ Natural Cure (over Illuminate, lulx)
 * Gallade w/ Steadfast (no other options)
 * Rhyperior w/ Solid Rock (over Lightning Rod)
 * Metagross w/ Clear Body (no other options)

natures

 * Leafeon- +what? / -Sp. Atk
 * Jolteon- +Atk(?) / -what?
 * Starmie- +what? / -what?
 * Gallade- +Atk(?) / -Sp. Atk
 * Rhyperior- +what? / -Sp. Atk
 * Metagross- +Speed? / -what?

movesets (some stolen by felix. others WILL suck.)

 * Leafeon- Leaf Blade, Sunny Day, Synthesis, X-Scissor (via Felix)
 * Jolteon- Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Shadow Ball, ???
 * Starmie- Surf, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Psychic.
 * Gallade- Close Combat (?), Psycho Cut, X-scissor, SDance.
 * Rhyperior- Megahorn, Earthquake, Brick Break, ???.
 * Metagross- Zen Headbutt, Meteor Mash, Earthquake, ???.

For Jolteon, I would suggest Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Shadow Ball, and something. Gallade needs to keep Close Combat, it's one of the most powerful moves ever created. Give Metagross Agility. 01:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * i hate selfbuffs and de-buffs i just use pure attack power moves <font color ="steelblue" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 01:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * omg noob [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 01:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your "God" doesn't get much respect or capitalization <font color ="steelblue" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 01:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would suggest you refrain from saying things you know nothing about, although I know that is one of your favorite pastimes. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 01:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well sometimes you capitalize it and sometimes you don't; and attention is my past time <font color ="steelblue" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 01:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If I were to put in a Togekiss, who should I swap out for him? Should Gallade know Earthquake? For Jolteon's fourth move... Protect? Rain Dance (+Thunder, ofc)? Roar? Bleh, I fail this game. And it's too bad Jirachi is legendary. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:17, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Togekiss for Starmie I think. Gallade needs Swords Dance, give Jolteon Protect if you like; I think mine might have Helping Hand. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, don't forget that if you're breeding a Togekiss, it's going to need to be female, have the correct ability, and have the correct nature. I would estimate you'll need to breed about 120 before you get the right one. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Compared to your 200 Ralts' that seems like cake :P
 * And I totally didn't know Togekiss was only female. Lulz. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * AND I don't know what natures I should give them >.> --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're going for Togeflinch, you need either Timid or Modest; depends whether you value speed more, or damage. I think Timid would be better, personally. So Timid/Modest Female Serene Grace Togepi. Good luck. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Serebii.net says you can have both genders of Togekiss. And I'd prefer Timid. What do you think of neutral natures? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If Serebii says so, it must be so. Neutral sucks forever. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oic. So timid togepi it is. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:00, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, now I know why a F Timid Serene Grace Togepi would be so hard. Hah! 12.5% chance on gender alone ftl. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  01:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)