Talk:Blood Washes Blood

Reference to the Wheel of Time? Alreajk 17:17, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Explorer tips
Similar to Tihark Orchard, you can explore the outer area safely as there are no enemies outside the actual quest area. --Shin 12:28, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

How do you repeat it for Book of Hero's?
It says to talk with the Scrying Pool, but I can not figure out excactly what to do, anyone who can tell me? Taoh Rihze 12:47, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Nevermind finaly figured it out, resummon the bear, lead it through the portal, and you can redo the mission. Taoh Rihze 12:59, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Reward
The reward on the Article says: 2 500xp 500 Norn Rep points

The quest log only says 2500xp...or it that only me? Is the actualy reward dialogue different? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khazad Guard (contribs).


 * Norn points are never listed in the Quest Log, iirc. --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 14:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Reputation points are listed in the log for non-primary quests, but not for the primary quests or dungeons. You will still receive points when you complete primary quests and dungeons, though - a large amount the first time (between 500-3000) and a smaller amount if you repeat it (100-1000). &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hard Mode tips
To get the Bear Spirit in Jaga Moraine, there will be a huge number of Spectral Vaettirs near the shrine. They pull fairly easily, but sometimes you hit one and get two groups; so, be prepared to run away, because if you engage two groups it will almost certainly be a team wipe, and is otherwise very nasty.

Once you get to Bjora Marches, the very beginning is difficult because many patrol converge in the pathway that curls around counterclockwise. Avoid them, and head south a bit, taking out the Mandragors that are just south, and swing around the lower pass. From there it is easier to move to areas with smaller numbers of patrols that are easily enough pulled. Work your way northwest to find yourself to the northwest of the shrine so you come to the shrine from on high (in the path behind the one shown on the map in the article page). From on high, the seekers shooting up at you do less massive damage and any rangers you have do more damage shooting down. Then keeping to the north, head over to most northerly barrier and come in there. Clear out area just around the fortress.

Once you make it to the end fortress, knock down both barriers going in, and pull each of the Charr groups (except the one containing the boss) out of the fortress through the closest exit, or to a clear area. They pull easily. While in Ursan form, you move fast enough to make pulling easy and safer. Put your monks and other spell casters behind barriers (other side of fortress wall can work well--out of range of melee) when you can.

Note the last monk boss, Elmohr Snowmender, does not have a resurrect ability--take out the Charr Dominator which is the only one with resurrect. This battle may involve some attrition. Save the boss for last. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Susan (contribs).

Bug?
I've beaten the game once, and now I'm going through it again with a second copy of my Hero's Handbook, so I can craft Norn Armor... Anyway, "Blood Washes Blood" is different the second time around, and I don't understand why. My quest log says: "Light the sacred altar. Lead the beat spirit into Bjora Marches to cleanse Jora's homestead.". My quest marker points to the actual Altar, but the Arctic Nightmares don't spawn, and hence the Sacred Flame isn't lit. I have unlocked Ursan Blessing, and tried the quest with it Equipped and un-equipped, and nothing happens! What am I doing wrong? --MagickElf666 22:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it seems I had the MINI MAP (U) Opened, and didn't see the flame's Progression. The only different thing the second time around is that you can go straight to the Sacred Flame Altar, and the Arctic Nightmares don't spawn, so you stand in the middle for about 45 seconds and then you may continue. --MagickElf666 20:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Back Door Route Shortcut
Providing everyone in your party has access to Longeye's Ledge, this quest is quicker to do if you start off from that location. The path shown in the accompanied screenshot is mostly avoidable of all mobs and can easily be run in less then 7 minutes. --DaveBaggins, 13:20, 26 January 2008 (CST)
 * From my personal experience, the back way to this in Hard Mode is quite easier then facing the wall of Spectral Vaettirs then going from Bjora Marches. When I did this, I only faced two groups Spectral Vaettirs when getting the shrine. It saved a ton of Death Penalty on me and my Hero and Henchie group. -- Mrxaero 00:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice little thing
Ran to marshes from sifhalla with war then just zoned back and went instead of fighting much--71.227.142.108 23:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Place to return after completion
Anom IP's do keep changing it to Gunnar's_Hold. Don't want to start a revert war. IMHO, it should be Shifhalla and you will only return go Gunnar's hold if you already did it. Any thoughts ? -- -- ( talk ) 08:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that the first time ever completing it will send you to Shifhalla, but second time onward will send you to Gunnar's Hold? Anyways, my mesmer who completed it in Normal mode once before just did this quest today in Hard Mode and got sent to Gunner's. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 08:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)