User talk:Defiant Elements/Contest

Contestants
Leave your signature and the skill you would like to use as well as the link to your build (the link may be added at a later date).
 * 1) I'll take Amity... already got a build for it here, but it may take some working. Not tested. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    20:19, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * If allowed, I will also be taking Extend Conditions.--[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   22:57, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Took it for now, simply because I already made the build... :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:26, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Alright, changed the rules slightly, you can now make up to three total builds, all for the same elite, three different elites, or two for one elite and one for another. Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)
 * 1) Mark of Insecurity. I've always liked that skill, and I'll find a way to use it.--Nog64Talk [[Image:Yaaaay.JPG]] 23:03, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 2) I'll take "It's just a flesh wound.": Build:P/W Para Purifier. Cheese Slaya 23:49, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

Discussion
How many people you think will sign up for this? I can only think of builds for maybe 3 of these skills off the top of my head. May I sign up for all of them? --   20:26, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * We will see how many people sign up. I just posted this a few hours ago, but, if we don't get many submissions, you can write builds for all three.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)

Panic
It's a Mesmer elite, not a Necromancer elite. It's also somewhat popular in HA. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 22:26, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Possibly true, but this page does not ask if the skills are good... only if they have been used. You like it, you go make a build with it! --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:27, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I never said anything about liking elites. It seems like a contest for unused elites, but Panic is not an elite that is never used. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 22:30, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Let me elaborate, in order to be entirely objective, the question is not even whether or not the skill is used in game, but rather whether we have a build anywhere on the wiki that already uses it. I checked what linked to Panic and couldn't find any builds, therefore, it goes on the list.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)
 * We have a Peace and Harmony build? &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:14, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Skull Crack, Mind Freeze....--Nog64Talk [[Image:Yaaaay.JPG]] 23:15, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * For Mind Freeze: Build:E/N Blizzard, for Skull Crack: Build:A/W Cracker. When I said no builds posted for an elite, I meant 0.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)


 * Build:Mo/any Harmony Healer
 * Build:Mo/Me Heal Party Spammer
 * Build:Mo/any Peaceful Enchanter--[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:17, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Unfavored, those blow anyways. Plus, I don't see any skills not found in unfavored builds already. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:18, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, I went through and checked what linked to EVERY elite. Only elites that had ZERO builds were put on this page.  That means ZERO favored, ZERO unfavored, ZERO stubs, ZERO untested.  Yes, those builds DO suck, but the whole point is to go where no one has gone before and do something entirely different.  This is also entirely objective so I don't have people complaining that one of the skills I listed is actually good and another person complaining I forgot a bad skill.  If the elite has ZERO builds it is in, otherwise it is not.  This is MY competition, I believe I have jurisdiction over the rules.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)
 * Yes, I'm sure if this was clarified in that header on the contest page, there wouldn't be any questions asked. Plus, it states there's no consideration for unfavored builds, so that might be a correction to make. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:34, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I meant that if you post your build that you made for this contest, and it gets unfavored, it may not be considered. Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)
 * Fixed some wording, added a bolded note at the top of the page, etc. Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)


 * Build:A/W Cracker
 * Build:W/Rt Full Prevention
 * Build:E/N Blizzard
 * Build:E/N Mind Rend

And all the elites on the list on the other page appear in NO builds, unfavored or otherwise. That's the whole point. --   23:20, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks, people don't seem to want to understand the entire premise of my competition. Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)

Ah! This is just a perfect idea I think, and definately a contest I want to enter. But those newbie build makers have stolen all the good crappy elites! (actually, I probably stole a few of them myself... I know for a fact there's a Seeping Wound build out there with my fingerprints all over it). I'm surprised that only a few professions have Elites left untouched... Assassins are popular, I suppose, and most of the other professions are very flexible (all the Elementalist Elites used up comes as no surprise). I'm just a little stumped now... I don't want to go using any Elites others have already used (I know there's no rule against it, but it's a personal thing). And of course, the Elites I have ideas for have been used already. Even one of my favorites, Shadow Meld, was stuffed into a stubbed build, just to fill up the Elite slot. You can expect me to have an entry up soon enough though, I think. Either I'll get some crazy idea for a skill, or I'll break down and use an elite that one of the other entries is already working on. :P -- Jioruji Derako.> 23:58, 16 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Oddly enough, Mesmer's have an incredible number of unused elites compared to every other class. Sigh, Mesmer's are my second favorite class and they get so little love :(.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)
 * I know what you mean about people using the elites you wanted poorly and I would make exceptions except that I want people making these builds with no reference or starting point (aside from what they see in-game or elsewhere). Theoretically, in a contest like Nog64's you could look at the comments on an existing unfavored, clean it up with 4 different skills and post it.  That's why with mine, I only used skills which have never been used before.  I want something new.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)