Talk:Vizunah Square (mission)/Archive 1

Can someone please RV? # Nilles 05:00, 5 May 2006 (CDT)

Add all the required mission info
I added Broad Head Arrow based on its article. I will play this mission now and add some more information and try to get a map, however it probably still wont be complete. Are there separate objectives for this mission? --MasterPatricko 13:52, 5 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Yes, there are two groups of 8. One has to protect Mhenlo, the other has to protect Togo. Eventually, the two groups join and the mission objectives become the same for both teams, which is basically protect Mhenlo and Togo while fighting your way through the mission. There are no sideways. # Nilles 14:40, 5 May 2006 (CDT)

Playing both sides
So is it possible for Prophecies characters to get to the Local Quarter and play it from there? I don't think so -- as I can't get in, even after having done the Foreign Quarter, the guard tells me to talk to Togo. What about vice-versa? I think it is -- I think my Factions char could get into the Local Quarter. Can someone verify both ways, please? And, if you're feeling enterprising, add appropriate notes to Vizunah Square (Mission), Vizunah Square (Local Quarter) & Vizunah Square (Foreign Quarter) ? Edit: As a side note, please tell me I'm wrong about the Local Quarter & Prophecies characters, as it has an Undercity entrance that is pretty much essential for The Shadow Blades and other quests. --Tinarto 16:42, 12 May 2006 (CDT)

A Guildmate of mine got his Canthan character into the foreign quarter by tagging along with Tyrian characters. Haven't tried the other way around yet, though. --Sykoone 21:35, 12 May 2006 (CDT)


 * I also have a guild mate who experienced the same. --Nilles 05:24, 13 May 2006 (CDT)


 * I have had two separate friends and myself confirm, that Prophecies characters cannot enter the Local Quarter area. --Chrono_traveller


 * If a Canthan character who already has the mission area open is the leader and he tries the Local Quarter's Undercity entrance, the gate is closed and Guardsman Pei tells him to go away. The only remaining possibility is a Canthan character who is currently doing the entrance quest. --Tinarto [[Image:Tinarto-gold-Monk-icon-small.png]] 20:43, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

I have a Factions character and I have entered both Local and Foreign quarter. Its seems that if you take your Factions character to Tyria (Prophecies) you can enter the Foreign Quarter after. I can't confirm this, but its the only explanation to be able to enter the Foreign quarter when in the begining I couldn't enter.
 * I also was able to get a canthan character to the foreign quarter and we plan on trying to get my tyrian character to the local quarter. I think it depends on who leads the party. In theory, once you get the quest and they go to the cutscene you should go along with them to the local quarter.
 * I don't think it's as simple as the party leader having the quest. For the first two Canthan missions, it tells you that you have "ineligible" party members if you bring along Tyrian characters and try to get in.  I don't know if the hypothesis of taking your Canthan character to Tyria will let you into the foreign zone, but I can say that I took one of my Canthan characters to Tyria and was able to simply walk in with only henchmen at some later point.  --68.142.14.39 09:47, 16 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Access to the foreign quarter for Canthan characters is unlocked after completing either Closer to the Stars, Nahpui Quarter or To Tahnnakai Temple. I suspect that the gate is only open if all party members meet the criteria. I also suspect that the same criteria apply for Tyrian characters accessing the local quarter. -- Gordon Ecker 01:47, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I've completed the game (missions, vast majority of quests) with a Prophecies character and cannot enter Local Quarter, as of last check. --Tinarto [[Image:Tinarto-gold-Monk-icon-small.png]] 02:02, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Since noone has any evidence so far that Tyrian characters can enter the Local Quarter, I think this is useful information to put into the article.--Chrono traveller 16:51, 17 May 2006 (CDT)


 * I edited the local quarter article to reflect this, but I will say it here again. My ele has Vizunah local and the way she did that is she helped a friend do Mayhem in the Market. It was just me and the ritualist friend and henchies. He spoke to the guard and the guard took us in. --Karlos 05:12, 21 June 2006 (CDT)


 * This is definitely true. We did this on purpose tonight.  Two Tyrian characters were joined in a party with one Canthan and one other character (who I believe was Tyrian, but I'm not sure).  The Canthan lead us through the Mayhem in the Market quest.  At the end of the quest, the Canthan character talked to the NPC outside the gate, and we were warped into the Local Quarter. Xylia 00:19, 13 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Same for me. My Tyrian Warrior accompanied my Ritualist when she did Mayhem in the Market (I don't remember who led the party, other than that, henches only). He had the Mission already completed from the Foreign Quarters (in fact, I think he had already completed the whole game), so again, no help on any possible other requirements. --84-175 (talk) 18:18, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I tried to get into the local quarter with my Tyrian character by accompanying others. At the gate guard everyone went in *except* for me. That character never finished the mission on either side though, so I think at the very least you must have the mission completed before you can enter the opposite side.


 * A friend of mine ran her Tyrian monk from Foreign to Local to help me with local. Will ask for more details and edit. --Armond Warblade (talk) 17:55, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Death at the end
Can I get a confirmation on the talk page that the death at the cutscene counts towards the return on /deaths? I know it says it's confirmed but I don't see anything on the talk page. Gonna be hard to get experience at Lutgardis Conservatory for my survivor assassin if it does, so I'd like to know. Thanks in advance. --Armond Warblade (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

I just did the mission with my assassin and after the cut scence when shiro kills you i did not recieve another death. So if this was happening in the past it appear like they have fixed it.


 * Goody. Thanks for the info. --Armond Warblade (talk) 13:47, 25 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Just did the Mission to check this again - the death during the cutscene did not count towards the /death counter. Anyway, the page states that under certain circumstances the death may be counted - is this just wrong or do we know anything more specific about it? -- Sai Qui 05:44, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Trapper note
This newly added note about trappers.. Isn't it a bit too in depth? I think traps should just be listed with the other skill types that work well here, and the note should be deleted, sadly. Ifer 17:10, 19 September 2006 (CDT)


 * You're right, that's way too in-depth... Takes up about a third of the notes section. Maybe just a simple mention that trapping works well here and a link to a general trapping guide? (Might need to put such a guide on a to-do list...) --Armond Warblade (talk) 23:21, 20 September 2006 (CDT) Edit: Whoa, there is such a guide already? XD Fun.

Wanna know something funny about the cutscene at end? If you had MM and the minions aren't dead yet, the health degen will stop and the minions attack the Envoys. It was funny. The Envoys were getting shot by arrows, and when you get hit by projectiles, you kinda flinch, like a half knockdown. It was funny. Luthien Eniriel 00:15, 23 September 2006 (CDT)