User talk:Batno mercy/Build:Team - Famine/55 Titan Farmer

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Favored: Merge: Unfavored:
 * 1) Nice build, too much of a differance from the original to merit merging.
 * 2) Top build, very effective. One of the only team builds able to farm with 2 people(for titan gems that is). Solus  [[Image:DiscipleSymbol2.jpg|19px]] 17:27, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 3) Does it's job, and uses different strategies from the previous 55/famine builds, so it shouldnt be merged.--Batno mercy 13:57, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 4) Very fast, fun, and rewarding (Though the build still needs some work) --Craero 20:49, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 5) Effective build, so don't delete Dark Morphon 11:36, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) if it's that similar, put it as a variant on some other page
 * 1) Too similar to existing famines, merge it up. - Skakid9090 22:08, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Discussion
This is my first solo build so go ahead and give me any build making advice you can or want. Ackban Eathand 18:45, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Why did you have to post this.... - Skakid9090 20:49, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
 * what does this mean? why post this.... because now it will get used by more ppl and the "leet" (*cough yeah right cough*) cant leech it anymore? well, considering its allreay on GwGuru and youtube..... the cats allready out of the bag. besides, holding stuff back so you can get rich and others cant is jyst "bad sportsmanship" or, "bad gammership" in this case, i guess :) -TehBuG-


 * This is your first solo build?....with 2 people? hmmm i'm confused. --Chronicinability 19:02, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

Ranger can be a hero, so u could do it alone without help from others but your hero, tho I would call it duo... But I'm a bit confused why both the monk and the ranger use balthazar's spirit. Either replace balthazar's spirit with succor on the ranger or replace balthazar's spirit on the monk with sumthing else (for example lightbringer's gaze to deal with left over margonites and titans)Shai Meliamne 17:15, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

Ok this is what I use for 2 man foundry. The mo/r uses essence bond, balth spirit/succor (either one), mending, watchful spirt, eoe, famine, qz, sq. Pjstaab 13:57, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

What's the point in having Balthazar Spirit at the ranger? The monk already has it. Just switch it out for succor, it's not making sence. UnexistNL

Deletion Tag and the Build itself
I frankly don't see a point in the deletion tag, the ranger is too much of a variant from standard 55/famines to be easily explained in a variants section. Also, explaining how to use the build would take up too much room in another page. Yet another note, I don't even see a SoA monk/Famine in the farming section.

Onto the build itself. Double balth spirit is a waste, Smiting isn't needed on monk, and headgear swaps would free a lot of attribute points and lessen rangers chances of dying from low hp. Recommended: --Craero 23:16, 1 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Frankly with ALL builds getting cleared next month... whats the point of putting ANY build on this site? actuailly, without a builds section, whats the point of this site besides a quick general info page? IMO its the builds area that like, what? 87% of ppl come here for? -TehBuG-

It's my understanding that most builds will be transfered somewhere...and you can put them in your user page-=^o.o^=  (Amantis Asoko) 22:33, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

I have to agree with Craero above, this is too varied from standard 55/famines to be deleted because of similarity to another build. Dervish Mazta 12:31, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree with craero that this build is far too different from any other 55/famine build. The tactic is different,for one, the skills are much more different, since famines almost never take monk skills.Also, this build does it's job farming the nice 50kish Titan gemstones, and maybe it will be better if people could see how to make some more money, because only experienced player would have had had this idea in mind. To TehBug:haven't you noticed that the stupid builds are going to get deleted and the good builds are being archived in the namespace by good players?This is a good build, I will archive it, so your post is irrelevant.--Batno mercy 13:55, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

Again, the votes for favored are a lot compared to those which go to merged or deleted.I think that the deletion tag is utterly useless, because NO 55/famine use this skill arangement, especially with IW and power return, and the build is NOT a general farmer,thus CANNOT be merged with the 55/famine build simply because it will take too much time.

Suggested Build Variations
105 Monk

The Famine Ranger

2 times essance bond means you won't have the energy gain, no point in this bar since it's exactly the same :s. UnexistNL
 * The monk will gain energy through Essence Bond and balthasar's, the ranger will gain energy through the second Essence Bond. No need to complain. --Olivenmann 08:31, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

above builds
i do the famine ranger for this build. the above works. imo, ita a more solid build than the one posted on the actual article. for rate a build, id vote yes for the build above and no for the build on the main page. balths spirit on both ppl is useless.-TehBuG-

IW + power return?
Since when does ilusionary weaponry prevent enchantment removal? And why do you need power return? The SB variant was much better.