Talk:Scourge Healing

I think if "the healer" is healing spring, it does not take damage. What about mark of protection, healing seed, healing hands and other healing enchantments?


 * Or, indeed, Healing Signet, Parasitic Bond, Ether Feast, Blood Renewal, etc., etc., etc.? I am guessing that this only scourges spells under the Healing Prayers line, but I have never used this hex, so what do I know? &mdash; Stabber (talk) 15:40, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I think your question is different than Ollj's. I think the answer your question lies in the term "is healed" which implies a passive voice. i.e. someone else uses a skill on the target to heal the target. So, self-healing does not seem to be a factor. But in any case, instead of getting caught in semantics, it is easily testable: The Shadow Warriors of the Fissure using Healing Sig, use it on them to verify self-heal. And for Ollj's question, the Stone Summit's Dolyak Masters use Mark of Protection, use Scourge Healing on a stone summit herder and see if the Dolyak Master get damage when MoP kicks in. --Karlos 21:27, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


 * After some testing I came to the conclusion that the skill must directly cause the heal, and be controlled thus by a person. A heal like Heal Other causes a direct heal, thus having a healer.  In the case of a Reversal of Fortune or a Healing Seed the enchantment is the "healer", and as there is no player acting as healer it isn't triggered - likewise, the heal from Divine Boon is truly viewed as a heal by Divine Boon - not by the player controlling the enchantment.  It's a very artificial sort of mechanism, making Scourge Healing quite useless in many situations, as so many healers heal through their Divine Favor bonus (doesn't trigger Scourge), through Divine Boon (also doesn't trigger it) and through enchantments (Reversal of Fortune, Healing Seed etc...).  I haven't tested every option, but my hunch is that Ether Feast and Healing Signet would trigger it, while Parasitic Bond and Blood Renewal would not (as they are enchantments causing the heal, not a player).--Epinephrine 22:01, 4 April 2006 (CDT)


 * To go along with your research, Healing Signet does invoke Scourge of Healing's ability. --Gares Redstorm 23:43, 4 April 2006 (CDT)


 * I've heard Ether Feast triggers it. My questions is, does life stealing trigger it? I suspect it doesn't, just by the nature of life stealing, but I haven't been able to test this myself.


 * Shouldn't be a hard test. Equip Scourge Healing and Vamp Gaze and go face the Doppelganger?--Epinephrine 09:32, 24 April 2006 (CDT)


 * I just tested, I just had Vapiric Gaze, and Sourge Healing, I faced my dopple, cast it on him, he cast it on me. Both of us never took any damage from Sourge Healing.  Aslo, I defeated my dopple in about 50 seconds. --Curse You 1:32, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

Heal Area
What about if you hex someone with scourge and use heal area on them? &mdash; Skuld  04:10, 8 June 2006 (CDT)
 * IIRC, they take damage. Kessel 11:03, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
 * No, scourge doesn't trigger. I just tested.  --68.142.14.80 11:13, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Alright, now I'm getting more and more confused about what triggers this and what doesn't. My failing memory doesn't serve me so well, but I'm pretty sure it triggers on the ending heal from Shadow Refuge, right? Kessel 11:25, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I would assume so. I didn't test if you scourge someone and another enemy heals the hexed foe with heal area, I only tested if the hexer uses heal area.  --68.142.14.80 12:27, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

Mysticism
will this trigger on Mysticism, considering Divine Favor isn't a trigger?--Life Infusion 20:49, 26 August 2006 (CDT)