Talk:Ghial's Staff

I believe the collector's staff is cold damage and not dark damage. Important to those using spinal shivers. So, technically, the staff cannot be duplicated with a collector's staff and mods.
 * I would suggest removing the note about "less useful". Except for Spinal Shivers, this staff is actually *more* useful than a replica IMO, since dark damage is untyped and ignores "vs physical dmg" and "vs elemental dmg" bonuses. Small potatoes for a caster, but useful nonetheless.144.32.128.113 08:07, 26 January 2007 (CST)

I removed "best staff" note.. you can make your own after all &mdash; Skuld  05:38, 12 July 2006 (CDT)
 * However, you try finding a +1 20% death staff wrapping for cheaper than 80k!--Apocrypha 17:27, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I just bought one on gwguru auction for 42k, and I saw that the previous one from the same guy, some time ago, has been sold for 30k. 85.71.221.70 02:36, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Have put the lines of the best MM staff back but only new thing is the unique part. Tomoko 15:41, 12 July 2005 (CDT)
 * "...and will lack the green name." Isn't this quite obvious considering only unique weapons are green? This is one of the only pages I've seen this note on, I suggest removal to keep everything standarised.
 * Been removed from most of the others, really dumb note, yeh &mdash; Skuld 06:43, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

There is another near-copy that seems overlooked: The Bone Spiral Rod from Gertrud in Vasburg Armory combined with the Bleached Skull from Dmitri Scharkoff right outside Durheim Archives is a net stat change of the following from Ghial's: Dark dmg to Cold dmg, -3 Energy, +30 Health. Perhaps more importantly, the cost of creating this combination is far less than even the near-copy staves, which require two rare staff upgrades. The hardest part about this rod/offhand combo is getting 5 Wardens Horns, much easier than farming Ghial. Sobeh 18:19, 11 September 2006 (CDT)Sobeh


 * Jesus, every person who sells this has to toss "BEST MM STAFF!" in their ad. Ever since flesh golem came, Aura of the Lich mm'ing died. With that being said, I could care less of having a 20% chance of a lvl19 minion comin out, and go for the enchantment mod. Besides, minions come and go so fast, what's with the craze of having a lvl19 fiend?


 * I don't think its about the 20% chance of +1 death magic, Its more about the: Halves casting time of Death Magic spells (Chance: 20%), Halves skill recharge of Death Magic spells (Chance: 20%) atleast thats what i'd want it for :\ SandViper 10-16-06


 * Huh? You don't need Ghial's Staff for that. You can get HCT/HSR from the collector staves listed in the article. Very easy, much cheaper. --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 03:36, 16 October 2006 (CDT)


 * That is true, *shrug* the +1 DM hardly shows up at all, when it does its for when I use Blood of the Master. - SandViper 10-20-06

True, it's not worth the hassle, but Flesh Golem gets 2 additional levels, which is always nice. -DaMan 17:16, 22 October 2006 (CDT)helps more for mid-battle stuff than the +30 health hurts it.

Can we take the "Better than Nightbringer" thing out? I don't think thats relevant, besides, i think NB's additional 20% chance to half recharge time of spells is more useful mid fight than the +30 health hurts it. Kumdori 03:25, 25 January 2007 (CST)
 * To clarify, it's a good thing to mention, on The Nightbringers page. Not here. The note saying the non-uniques version is better b/c it deals cold dmg? that was off. Nightbringer does cold dmg, edited it. Kumdori 03:31, 25 January 2007 (CST)
 * i took it out, seemed very wierd to me. Bubbinska 19:02, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Disappearing mods
The mods that disappeared on October 25 update are a bug. This was confirmed by Gaile Gray [|here].

got it the other day for 25k, considering death magic +1/20% is what? that guy said 42k i reckon it was a bargain, and the extra 1 or 2 levels on minions its nice, however ive heared its even better if you use a wand and focus and have +1/20% on each of them so thers a 40% chance of having +1 death magic and ofc, the 4% chance of having +2, aka a level 30 flesh golem.
 * I haven't seen a +1 mod on a wand yet, but if you ever see one, do tell. --Angelo
 * They do not exist. &mdash; Skuld 03:42, 25 January 2007 (CST)

You can't have two +1 mods. Wand + offhand is always better than staves, unless you want maximum energy, then you'd want a 20+energy staff. P A R A S I T I C 22:18, 11 February 2007 (CST)