Talk:Skill template format

Javascript tool
As a companion to what I wrote on this page I have a simple javascript implementation that will decode Skill Templates that you paste in. It is a single self contained HTML page, I'd like to make it available somehow, but I don't know how or where. Cloud 17:33, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Just Put a link to it
 * I would, if it was hosted anywhere. Right now its just a file on my computer Cloud 18:52, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Just put it on some 1-Click-Hoster (no rapidsahre please, take uploaded.to e.g.), post the link here, and i will host it on my page for the first time. 85.212.175.191


 * Watch this: no need to upload it anymore, it's done already 85.212.175.191 11:53, 28 October 2006 (CDT)

GW:ULC
Should the title of this be changed to Skill Template format? Skill Template is capitalized in-game, but the format is our own addition and per policy I believe should be lower-case. Any objections to a move? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:38, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Fine with me, I'm just a clueless wiki contributer. Cloud 19:12, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * See: You are valuable --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:11, 27 October 2006 (CDT)
 * See: Barek iz god &mdash; Skuld 14:22, 27 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Since, according to that, I'm allowed to disagree that I'm valuable... I will continue to refer to myself as a clueless contributer ;) Cloud 18:04, 29 October 2006 (CST)

Viewing the code?
How do you see those types of code? When ever I open my notepad pages, it is always stuff like: ASMxkt6FjlCWyacdvZaLAA. How do I see it like you do? --Frvwfr2 18:59, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * That's what you'd expect for base64 encoding, to get bits you replace each character with its position in "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+/". So using your example, the first part ASM is (0, 17, 11) which becomes 000000 010001 001011. Look at the rfc referenced in the article for a longer treatment. Cloud 19:09, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

so is rebirth CAF? --Frvwfr2 20:23, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Rebirth is 306, which is 100110010 in binary, which means that if it was started on an even boundary it would be: 110010,xxx100 => 50,4 => 'yE' Of course it probably won't be started on an even boundary, and the x's above would be the low three bits of the next skill, which would change the E into something else. This really isn't the place to explain base64 encoding and bitstreams...

Ok, thanks anyways. --Frvwfr2 14:02, 27 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Here are some links that may help:

info about how to decode the templates info about the relation between skills, attributes and the template code
 * and others: Cracked: Template Conversions For Tools and Builds: Show twmplate --Phoenix [[Image:Phoenix_Benu.png]] 01:08, 29 October 2006 (CST)

Locked skills
Where did you get the names for these from? Making a template with that combination and trying to load it? Anyway, I so want to capture BAMPH ! hehe. --Xeeron 07:45, 6 November 2006 (CST)

Hi ! You're right, i made a little excel sheet where i can put the skill code, then i load them in game, and make a screenshot. :) Just be carreful with Unnatural signet, because this one is different.

It's is my first time editing a wiki page, so locked skills will remain dead-links :( but here are some examples : (i'll try to post an image)

Hattor. 06/11/2006 17:54

http://perso.orange.fr/julien.morisseau/images/minirecapgos.JPG


 * How did you get the icons though? When I loaded them up the skills disappeared very quickly but I did manage to get pictures of the descriptions, as you have done.  Here is a code for the locked skills  A1EQwABMQBPAZ0RAA   --Buzzer 04:24, 11 November 2006 (CST)

I am currently adding all the missing codes, and taking screenshot of all the locked skills. I have a 56k modem, and i think this is why i have more time than all people to get my screenshot ^^. By the way, did you verified the skill n°369 ? i found a locked skill "Don"t believe thier lies !", and you changed it to "Curse of the blood stone" ?

I will try "A1EQwABMQBPAZ0RAA" this evening.

Lastest code are more difficult to find than core skills, there are test skill for ANet, old forgotten skills, ... Hattor 02:40, 15 November 2006 (CST)


 * Not sure where you got "Don't Believe Their Lies!" from because 369 is definately Curse of the Bloodstone (for a W/R at least) --Buzzer 03:11, 15 November 2006 (CST)


 * Can you post your build code and the place of "don't believe their lies"/Curse of the bloodstone in your build ? I re-ran some tests and i found "don't believe their lies". :)
 * For which prof does your build (A1EQwABMQBPAZ0RAA) work ? Hattor 16:26, 15 November 2006 (CST)


 * Sorry, I must've made a mistake before. 369 is indeed what you say.  That other code is for Mesmer and it has the first 7 locked skills in the list. --Buzzer 23:18, 15 November 2006 (CST)

Path to this page
A friend gave me a direct link to this page, but i don't find the path from main page to here, could someone show me ?

Thanks. Hattor


 * Go to the article and click on "What links here" in the toolbox section on the left of the screen. As you will see, nothing links here, except talk and template pages.  So its not really connected with the Main Page at the moment --Buzzer 01:11, 20 November 2006 (CST)


 * should we link it ? There is a game mechanics section in the main page, sounds good to us :) Hattor 10:17, 23 November 2006 (CST)

Equipment Template format
Has anyone had any success in decoding the Equipment Templates ? --Phoenix 06:35, 8 November 2006 (CST)

Locked or Invalid ?
Hi all, - there are some invalid skills : they exist, you can find them in the the game, but you cannot equip them - there are some Locked skills : No player is supposed to see them.

For some skills, i don't know if they are Locked or Invalid, and i need help, did you ever meet one on them in the game ? For instance Quick Sand [496]

Thanks, Hattor 02:46, 15 November 2006 (CST)

PHP Class
I've knocked up a PHP class for decoding the skill template codes, here Hope it helps someone. :) Cheezykins 14:19, 23 November 2006 (CST)
 * It will Help, thanks. :) Hattor 07:00, 24 November 2006 (CST)

Illegal?
Is this right? Are we now breaching the EULA by creating PHP scripts or such that can decode the templates? Or is this simply a legal thing that won't be chased up? Im kind of concerned as I have spent quite some time on development based around the templates. I really hope that this is never enforced, as it would be a great shame for the guild wars community. Neon 13:11, 28 November 2006 (CST)
 * It'll be up to ANet to tell us one way or another. If ANet announces that posting the data is unacceptable, then some sites may choose to keep it hoping that ANet won't chase after them.  However, as an officially recognised fansite, if ANet says it's unacceptable, our only choices will be to either remove it or to give up our fansite status. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 13:26, 28 November 2006 (CST)