Talk:Flurry

Worth making a note that 0.75 * 1.33 = 1? Meaning that all else being equal, engaging this skill should have no net effect on damage/second.
 * Easy way to test it: get 2 ele/war with identical +15 always/-5 en swords, 12 swordsmanship, +health armor, and just slug it out 1 with flurry 1 without.  If health at the end is significantly different, then it approximates the effect of flurry - either no change, reduced overall damage, or increased overall damage with flurry up.  Ninja Quail 23 July 2006

33% faster attack speed means 4 attacks instead of 3, 33% more attacks in the same time; 4 seconds with axe/sword and 5,25 seconds with a hammer. The damage is the same, the adrenaline gain is not. You basically convert energy into adrenaline, intelligent warriors only triger it when they know they do not miss, giving them an adrenaline boost.
 * without Flurry: 3 attacks in 4 seconds deal 3*40=120 damage, you gain 3 strikes of adrenaline.
 * with Flurry: 4 attacks in 4 seconds deal 4*30=120 damage (25% less damage per hit), you gain 4 strikes of adrenaline.


 * A technical point. Consider an axe: An attack with it happens every 1.33 seconds or roughly 0.75 attacks per second. Under Flurry, the time between attacks should be reduced by 33%, changing the attacks per second to 0.75 / (2/3) or 1.125 attacks per second. Over four seconds, without Flurry there are three axe attacks, with Flurry 4.5 attacks, a 50% increase in number of attacks and adrenaline gain. Some testing with the actual skill supports this increase.


 * Your calculations are wrong. Following the description, the attack rate increases by a third, this means: .75 * 1.33 = 1. What you calculated is an increase by 50% ( / (2/3) == * 3/2 == * 1.5). So, on a 4 second period, with a rate of 1, it is quite possible that you'd get a count of 4.5 attacks, accounting for lag on start and end of the 4 sec period.--theeth 22:15, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The same testing indicates the average damage per attack is actually roughly 33% less, not 25% as in the skill's description, resulting in the average damage per second being the same as without Flurry. So the skill notes are still basically correct. rhess 19:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Personally Flurry has never left my skill bar since I last changed my build which was some time ago. It's not good on its own but its great when using it to charge other skills. Using a Zealous mod though is pretty essential when spamming it. Remember this skill is a stance so that you can gain the bonus's from "while in stance" equipment. --SK 01:52, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

With my recent research with this skill, I discovered that spells like Conjure Lightning that add extra damage seem to not affected by the 25% reduction, just like how Illusionary Weaponry is unaffected. The increase damage could offset the reduction. --SavageX 12:12, 29 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Attack skills are also unaffected. An easy test is Balthazar's Island with Dragon Slash, Flurry, a candy cane weapon, and 0 ranks in swords. 4 damage to the dummy without Flurry, 3 with Flurry (~ 25% reduction, as expected). Dragon Slash, which adds 10 extra damage at rank 0, brings that up to 14 and 13, respectively. (Any skill works. I just picked one already sitting on my skill bar.) &mdash; 130.58 (talk) ( 04:09, 17 June 2006 (CDT) )