Talk:Mesmer skills quick reference

I would like to see this template changed to include what kind of skill: spell, hex spell, enchantment, etc. That information is highly useful at the quick reference level without having to drill down into each skill's detailed listing. (I find I am frequently having to go to another website that has that information at hand.) --Queen of Spades 06:54, 7 March 2006 (CST)
 * We are in the process of revamping it. See GuildWiki talk:Style and formatting/Skills

Hmmm
I think these 2 elite skills are basically anti-mesmer skills: Lyssa's Aura and Arcane Languor. both are good skills but only effective vs someone who casts really fast....other mesmers. Renegade of Funk 10:36, 12 May 2006 (CDT)

Talk
Cross out any unchecked skill after it has been checked and put a note behind it. Need our data to be accurate because many skills changed on release. --Draygo Korvan 14:31, 28 April 2006 (CDT)

List

 * Accumulated Pain Correct
 * Ancestor's Visage Unchanged
 * Arcane Languor Correct
 * Arcane Larceny Correct
 * Auspicious Incantation Correct
 * Complicate Correct
 * Conjure Nightmare Correct
 * Ether Signet Correct
 * Expel Hexes correct
 * Feedback Correct
 * Hex Eater Signet Correct
 * Illusion of Pain Correct
 * Images of Remorse Degen was incorrect, has been corrected.
 * Kitah's Burden Correct
 * Lyssa's Aura Correct
 * Lyssa's Balance Correct
 * Overload Correct
 * Power Leech Correct
 * Power Return Correct
 * Psychic Distraction Correct
 * Psychic Instability Correct
 * Recurring Insecurity Correct
 * Revealed Enchantment Unchanged
 * Revealed Hex Unchanged
 * Shared Burden Correct
 * Shatter Storm Correct
 * Signet of Disenchantment Correct
 * Signet of Disruption
 * Stolen Speed Correct
 * Unnatural Signet Correct

Check by --CoRrRan 02:01, 3 May 2006 (CDT)

New boxes: boo!
I liked them before, but I don't now that I've tried to actually use the skill list. The new boxes are pretty, but putting them in a list makes it exceedingly hard to actually read it: the icons are distracting, green/blue is too low contrast, and it difficult to quickly look at names when they are separated by descriptive text. A list that actually has all the names in a separate column would be much more user-friendly. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) ( 00:21, 11 June 2006 (CDT) )
 * The green wasn't my idea. Pick something. - 00:39, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Maybe a lighter (pastel) green that lets the black lettering stand out better? Yes, I too miss the ! for questable skills.  -Pandelume
 * It's not just the green, mostly (same color as the regular background would be ideal, though, if you're asking). It's the fact that there isn't a column that just has skill names and nothing else in it anymore. Your can't scroll through the list with your eyes very easily anymore. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) ( 00:45, 11 June 2006 (CDT) )


 * Agreed. The previous lists were far more readable and informative. I miss the green "questable" exclamations. Seventy.twenty.x.x 00:43, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
 * The question mark has its own problems, and has been discussed elsewhere with no one ever proposing a solution that they favor personally, muchless trying to reach a consensus on what to do. - 01:14, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

Ok I just gave skill name its own column, but I think the rest of the row looks worse now than it used to... - 01:21, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
 * You're right: it's a bit uglier but way more readable. I find it much easier to look through the list now, at least. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) ( 21:13, 11 June 2006 (CDT) )


 * Might I suggest switching position of the Prophecies/Factions box and the skill stat box? It would be nice to see that skill stats near the skill name (all at a glance, so to speak :) Another possibility would be to use a narrow column on the right for the letters 'P', 'F' or 'C' since it's more a tag for searching skills. It would reduce some of the visual clutter in the main body (description area) -Pandelume