User talk:Dirael/Mafia/5

Yay for second person narrative. Thought ful  02:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Another person escapes death. Good job JediRogue. Cress Arvein(Talk) 02:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems like the mafia isn't having much luck w/ night kills, but neither are us townies with day lynches. --[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 02:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch JediRogue your going down for trying to kill RT. Misfate 02:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would you try to lynch jedi when she was just almost killed?... --Shadowcrest  03:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * shhhhhhhh... Misfate 03:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

reasoning out the previous day
ill post this after i get out of HA or when im waiting in halls for next match lol. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 04:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This means that Jedi is either Norn Soldier, or the monk protected her, correct?--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 04:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Or the inventor used another item.--Gigathrash 05:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's good...altough we arent getting luck with lynches, its better than losing 2 townies a day...Oh and btw, to Shadowcrest...im not in Australia, why? --Varon Searer 05:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Because whenever I see you on its really late here, which I could attribute to the time difference if you were in australia --Shadowcrest  06:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, since the mafia tried to kill me last night, like MP, you can assume I am not mafia. I was saved by being either the Norn Soldier, having protection of the monk, or one of the inventions. I will not discuss this too much as I probably know the answer and don't wish to reveal it to the mafia. What we know: Yesterday we attempted to lynch Cress or RT because they agreed with the lynching of townie Thoughtful without explanation, because they don't talk much but are on a lot (unlike some who are on later at night and seem to miss the votes). Anyway, it seemed to be between the two. But Cress decided to save himself at the risk of revealing his role as orator to the mafia. RT's fate seemed sealed until Misfate decided to resurrect his twin. With all these roles known, it seems odd that the mafia would come after me. As I said the other day, it makes the most sense to target people who we know are townies because we are clearly not going to lynch them so the only way to kill them is at night. Additionally, that means that we are eliminating the known and leaving only unknowns. Again, I'd suggest the monk protect one of these knowns but the mafia seems to follow some unknown agenda. Unknowns: I suggest we let them all speak before we string em up. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 06:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Cress - Dwarven orator
 * Misfate - Sylvari twin
 * RT - Sylvari twin
 * JediRogue - possibly Norn soldier. townie
 * MP47 - possibly Norn soldier. townie
 * Everyone else - unknown
 * Warwick
 * Progger
 * Varon
 * Giga
 * Jio
 * Entrea
 * Felix
 * Isk
 * Matrim
 * Nice staying low Jedi :P That pretty much sums most of it up, but still not enough info to lynch anyone we know to be mafia...for now I think all we can do is lynch a random person, lynch no one and hope the next murder attempt fails, or, like you said, let the others speak up, if they do which is the best choice I'd say --Varon Searer 07:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * (EC) Wait, how do we know Misfate's the other twin? I thought the twins could only vote for the same person, and they both picked different people to lynch on day three. Let's not go proving people are townies only to have it come back and bite us in the ass a day later... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  07:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you did point out some possible mafia members last time, perhaps a bid to keep you quite before we (finally) lynched a mafia member? Yet both of the people you said might be maybes have been proving to not be...  And your not a mafia member, GAH we have nothing on ANYONE ><--Gigathrash  07:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Giga's got a point on that one, they don't seem to be targeting based on role. (not like they have much more to go on then us in that regard.) It might be a little self-centered of me to say so, but I'm thinking myself and Jedi are probably up there on the target list... Jedi keeps making convincing arguments for lynch targets, and I'm making more then my share of guesses as well. One way or another, our Priest seems to have figured that out as well... keep it up... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  07:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Either that or our priest is getting lucky with who is protected. --Varon Searer 07:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In which case, keep doing whatever you're doing, because so far it's proving to be very lucky. ;D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  07:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Good Morning, I am in a different time zone, dying didn't feel good the first time and the tilde button on my keyboard doesn't work RT</B> 10:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I seem to miss entire conversations as I only log on a couple of times a day here, oh well. Priest seems to be doing a good job, but, we've already lynched 2 townies, we really need some hard proof before lynching some random person again or the townie ranks will be very thin in no time. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 11:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Why is misfate the other twin? --R</B>T</B> 11:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I see no proof (Lolz, RT they havn't figured it out yet dispite the clues I've left) --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Lynch Misfate for voting lynch Jedi; its evident she's not mafia. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I could ruin this game for 7 people if I wanted. ^^ --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Misfate - stop pretending to be a twin --R</B>T</B> 11:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well, Jedi was fairly high on my suspect list, and now I'm back to square one. How do we assume that Misfate is the other twin?  This is why I asked the question to Shadow at the end of the last game.  Misfate hasn't done anything to give away his role as far as I can see, at least nothing definite.    I've got 2 more ppl on the top of my list, and I am going to cast my vote to Lynch Entrea.  <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  16:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Second thought, after re-reading the votes... Its not specifically stated in the rules, but I would assume the twins know who eachother are. And if RT is voting for Misfate, that should more than mean he isn't.  Change vote for Lynch Misfate.  <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  16:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll vote to Lynch Misfate as well. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I do know who is the twin, I'm not telling to protect him/her from the mafia R</B>T</B> 17:29, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course you know who is the twin, you're one of them. Anyway, I will VOTE2:lynch misfate as well. Cress Arvein(Talk) 17:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not even a double vote cress? :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  17:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He's got a point, not much use in hiding it now. :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm still kind of confused about RT's being rezzed. We know hes a twin. Someone rezzed him yesterday before the night but Shadow didnt include it in the story until today but we knew it then. So I'm really confused and I can't vote until I know what happened there. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 18:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't want RT to be immediately rezed after his lynch so the mafia could just pick him off an instant later and make the other twin have nothing to do. So I rezed him after the night phase. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  18:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I got that part. But how did everyone know that RT was rezzed in the first place? That part went over my head. I though Misfate said that he saved him?...&mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 19:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

How many times
are the twins allowed to rez each other?-- (Talk) (Contr.) 17:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Shadowcrest just updated the page on that, they get one each.
 * (imagine if they had infinite, they would never die unless one of them got lynched, and nobody would ever lynch them twice.) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * that would be pretty interesting, though. Cress Arvein(Talk) 17:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's exactly the reason I was wondering, Jio--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 17:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't get me wrong, it would be totally awesome. :D But I wouldn't call watching the same two guys resurrect themselves for three days straight "interesting". :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Broken Sleep
I like how it's an hour from dawn, Jedi almost dies, everyone's terrified for their lives, and the group decides to get a few more hours of sleep. :P We're not as bright as we think we are apparently. --<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I blame it on Shadow for his bad storytelling. Lynch Shadowcrest... again!--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 17:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I couldn't have a sleep deprived mob, now could I? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  17:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * A ghost appears: I find it interesting how "plain" you guys are notified that RT is rezzed. Like you're saying: "Oh, and RT got rezzed, but that's no big deal". Lovely :P *ghost disappears* --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 17:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that's because nobody cares about RT. lol. just kidding RT ^^ --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  17:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

needs moar...
Suicidal bakers and/or cowbells. Misfate 17:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, your cook was murdered the first night, I'm sorry to say. You all must be starving. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 17:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I vote to eat Misfate--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 17:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * *ghost Appearance* Lunch dead bodies. Mmmm. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok well, if I heard right, I gues Warwick is off the hook....Lynch Misfate i guess --Varon Searer 19:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait....nvm, I'm getting confused about Warwick...but I'm not changing who I lynch...--Varon Searer 19:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I for one don't really see any good reasons for lynching misfate... correct me if I'm wrong. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 20:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, well I'll probably die this night anyway, no matter... Unless i'm proteccted, or the mafia think i'm protected, or... its hurting my head R</B>T</B> 20:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

further reasoning
Okay, I see kind of why I missed the twin thing the previous day. Shadowcrest added it and you all confused me when you tried to tell me... Anyway... Misfate's accusations seem to be twofold: 1, he attempts to lynch me, a townie. 2, RT's vote confirms that Misfate is not his twin. Lynching me is illogical because the attempt on my life shows that I'm not mafia. However, a mafia member, you would think, would know that behavior would be suspicious... but then, you'd think a townie would too. Why, then, Misfate, would you try to lynch me? Too, why was I near the top of Isk's list? Who among those who voted for RT was mafia lynching someone they knew to be a townie? Is RT's twin hiding by not voting or have they been all along matching their votes to RT's? &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 20:29, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think RT's twin has been voting, but meh. IIRC, ill check, but none of the votes have been exactly the same as RT.. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 20:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You were probably higher, jedi, because you think a lot. Even if your accusations are wrong you can usually reason them well enough to get others to vote for the person. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 20:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, we have the following possibilities:

There's no-one who hasnt voted, but no-one has voted exactly the same as RT at all.. I dont suppose you'd consider role-claiming, Jedi? -- <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 20:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) No Twin
 * 2) Gigathrash
 * 3) Felix
 * 4) Isk8
 * 5) Me 
 * There has to be a twin, otherwise RT wouldn't be alive. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 20:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The priest could have resed him.. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 20:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I thought that Misfate was really just joking by his second post, but I dunno...perhaps, if Misfate is mafia...he's trying to confuse us with randomness?...Well its working on me >_> --Varon Searer 20:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I am confushed, more comunication is needed with the twin and I, as sometimes we don't vote the same. Shadowcrest should flame us more via email R</B>T</B> 20:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Couldn't Vipermagi/Marcopolo/Goldenmama have been the twin? --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 20:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't the twin have rezzed them originally though. Matrim [[Image:Squirrel_crossbow.png]] 20:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * and shadow would have said R</B>T</B> 20:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

This will be pretty much the first time i vote to lynch without  much evidence... lynch Misfate Matrim  20:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

DO NOT LYNCH MISFATE
i have my reasons. ill explain later. don't let the day end!!! &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 20:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it has R</B>T</B> 20:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Too late. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 20:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ghost appearance: Matrims vote ended the day. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 20:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's hope for the best <B>R</B><B>T</B> 20:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Did Shadowcrest end the day? There's still time to change your votes. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 20:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And now I feel like an asshole... Matrim [[Image:Squirrel_crossbow.png]] 20:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well thats great...I wouldve listened to Jedi too...well, lets hope we made a good choice--Varon Searer 21:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, what did I miss? Did Misfate get lynched, or did something else happen?
 * If you've got reasons, Jedi, I'd suggest letting us know... I trust that you're a townie, but that doesn't mean you know who everyone else is... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  21:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Day is over. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 21:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * But if we lynched someone, don't we at least get to see who/what they were? That's why I'm asking. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  21:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Warwick declared the day over, not Shadowcrest. However, I still don't feel like I can speak as I'm supposed to be sleeping... &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 21:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, dear. Wrong again, I'm afraid. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 21:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Ghost of Misfate: Fail, I should have used my vote change ability to save me for the day before I went to church, was going to lynch the rogues of jedi since they try to steal Krytan throne secret conspiracy kk. Misfate 22:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh shit.. My hunch was wrong =/ --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 16:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)