Talk:Leech

"nothing can be done to protect against leechers"

This is not true, there are actually a number of steps that Arena Net can take to make leeching less of a problem.

Examples:

1) Add a feature to prevent you from being in a team with someone in your Ignore list. Or add a new list specifically for that purpose - e.g. Lamer/Enemy list.

Optional: after being added, lamers stay in the Lamer list for 30 days and then automatically get removed. Players can reset the 30 day count by re-adding the lamer at any point in time.

2) Perhaps players who end up on lots of other player's ignore/lamer lists should get titles.

Examples: Lamer of Cantha, Somewhat Ignored, Mostly Ignored, Very Ignored, Mostly Ignored, or Outcast of Aspenwood (could depend on the location you were added to someone's list).

3) Detect players who don't contribute to the battle at all - e.g. don't use any skills on enemies or allies. And then give them titles if they persist - Idler, Thumb Twiddler, Deserter etc.

If players use bots that actually use skills then a sufficiently advanced bot might be better than some non-leeching players. ;)

Anonymous 13:11, 14 October 2006 (CDT)


 * All of those are very poor solutions. First of all, ANet will not allow players to penalize each other, they are very wise in knowing that the average 14 yr old population of the game would heavily abuse that. As far as deteding idleness, that would mean that all bonders would get that title. There are very firm policies that ANet sticks to that would make the prevention of leeching impossible. All the policies you are suggesting are based on making leeching scandalous. They refuse to do that even for people who were found guilty of an offense (like if you report a scammer, they will not tell you if they agree he is a scammer or not). So, yeah.. These are not good solutions.
 * The bottom line is, a leecher WILL mess you up, whether he gets punished or not. As soon as you go into an 8 member mission and you only have 7, you are already in trouble. Everything from that point on is not going to alleviate that. You're seeking retribution, which will not really pay you back for the 25 minutes you wasted on a mission and failed because of the leecher. --Karlos 13:31, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
 * ANet does allow players to penalize each other already with the Ignore list.
 * So don't have the titles then. I never said all the suggestions should be implemented.
 * I think you really don't get it. What is the problem if all the 14 year olds you grumble about add you to THEIR Lamer list and you NEVER ended up in the same random team as them in Aspenwood or Random Arena? Wow what a disaster that would be right?
 * (By the way, nonleeching bonders WILL use skills on allies - e.g. binding an NPC, but that's not important - see below)
 * Finally the main suggestion is 1). And that's the only one that's needed. It WILL work and is fairly easy to implement given a competent programmer. Go ahead show me why 1) won't work. People intolerant of noobs will put them on their lists, but then the noobs will be better off playing with people more tolerant of them.
 * It would be simple..if a player hasn't moved for 1 minute, they don't gain faction.Entheos Geon 14:44, 14 October 2006 (CDT)