User talk:Entropy/Archive 33

first
stop cheating, felix (T/C) 21:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was promised a wtf chain. Where is it? Cress Arvein [[Image:Cress sig.JPG]] 23:44, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Your wtf chain has been temporarily postponed in the tube mail. Please try again later.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ  00:03, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If Felix hadn't defiled my virgin talkpage, then you'd have your wtf chain. I abdicate myself of all responsibility. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 04:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Mmm-mm, virgin talkpage. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My talkpage was allowed to approach the Unicorn. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not anymore.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ 05:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Unicorns and virgins don't get along, eventually one of them will become a horse and/or a whore.[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]reanor 00:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Turtle's for all
&#x70B9; 点 -- Hangul FTW Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 22:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * After a bit more research... I think it's hangul anyhow :-s. It's from the CJK (China, Jap, Korea) lot. Off to sleep, claim prizes later :-) Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 23:00, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ohhh <3 thank youuuu~ [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 04:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

"I have ventured into the night and returned. You shall not!"
Entropy (C) 04:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * eh okay man [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Have fun with that.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ 04:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It was a lot of fun. You should be glad I'm poor, otherwise I may as well just quit Buildwars. It really does bore me to tears now 90% of the time. Stupid monthly fees and not having a job... :( Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 04:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Then, get one. (Seriously guys, life isn't that hard, you see a problem, you fix it, no higher thinking needed, just a direct correlation)--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ  04:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Inactive
Thank you for the time and effort you have poured into this wiki which you have thereby indelibly shaped. There won't be cake. -- ◄mendel► 12:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

WTB Emerald Blade
don't care stats as long as it's inscribable, though ofc I'd pay more the closer it is to perfect. bonus for Enchanting and +5e mods already on it. also have a number of items which I could trade for it. Entropy (C) 11:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

01:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm glad I made that account. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 01:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Holy shit
With the changes to the Xunlai Tournament House, I can now predict on all three of my accounts instead of just my main, with no need to know the XTH accounts/passwords. Maybe this will convince me to do XTH. :> Entropy  (C) 01:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * UMG?! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Felix Omni (contribs).
 * JOYNESS! Anet emailed me and said that with this change my account is no longer linked to a beta NC account that would wtf mess up their servers if I accessed it!--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ  03:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, this is how it should have originally been if not in-game itself.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ 03:58, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Amen. Also, buying accounts becomes even more profitable now. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 04:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Semantic MediaWiki
Greetings, number 5 in the Top users panel! If you're not the best person here to talk about Semantic MediaWiki, please tell me who is. Your wiki is listed as using some SMW functions. We on Genealogy are just starting. Is there anyone here with tips to pass on?

— Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd probably talk to User:Mendel - but he watches this page, so he'll probably get back to you Random Time  13:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * PanSola is more or less in charge of SMW integration, since he's the only one who cared. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:14, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, I care(d), I just think it's (mostly) a bad idea. :) Anyway, I replied on User talk:Robin Patterson. -- ◄mendel► 05:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's good, because I don't know anything about SMW anyway, other than it annoys me. :] Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 02:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Dousing Dhaos at ACEN
Brian and I were wandering booths in the dealer's room, and we came across this one with a couple REALLY nice 1/8 scale Tales of Phantasia figurines. There were 3 Mints and 1 Arche. I stared at them for a while, and then turned to Brian and said "Hey Brian. Between the two of them, which would you rather have on your desk? Mint has that air of quiet elegance, but I bet Arche-" Then he told me to shut up and ran away. I bought the Arche. 23:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * XD wtb pics. btw, I still don't get what is so cool about Saber. She's not even (that) hot. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 02:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's because you haven't played the game :<  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 02:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Can it be creatively acquired? Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 03:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but if you do so you have to make a silent vow to purchase the full version if you ever see it for sale. Because no one rips off TYPE-MOON. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 21:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Too late, the torrent already started and there's nothing you can do to stop me! (Inferior being.) Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 22:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I can spoilers you. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You require more Vespene ethylene gas. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 22:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a happy section.  &not; «Ðêjh»   (talk)  02:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

g-g-g-g-g-graphics card
Now taking suggestions for what graphics card one should get if they want to game on a laptop (Lenovo ThinkPad T61p, type 6457-B64, Vista Ultimate OS). Entropy (C) 04:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

oversight
Hmm, did one of the wikia staff delete that revision where the vandal displayed your page source all over your userpage from sight? I've a mind to ban them if I knew who it was. :-( -- ◄mendel► 09:10, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * hmm, nevermind, that was your talkpage. -- ◄mendel► 09:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * pretty sure that was a joke edit from a certain user who wanted to "demonstrate" the position:absolute vandalism, else I dunno what you're talking about Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 22:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I'm talking about. -- ◄mendel► 10:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind if you banned Warwick... :p Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 20:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

What the hell?
Why are all pages "View Source" as if they are protected? Where did the editsections go? Entropy (C) 10:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

How strange, it seems to be fine again... Entropy (C) 11:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Unannounced database lock? --Macros 11:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Those happen all the time :< Quite annoying, but never long lasting. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  12:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Bear
I can 'ferry' you now if you want. Don't know your IGN. RoseOfKali 19:08, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh Em Gee, I was first to it. Linkie, hope this helps A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 19:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I refuse to make an IGN using or resembling "Entropy", for three reasons: 1) Some random shitter might recognize me. 2) I can't think of any good ways to use it in a name. 3) I already made Little Vili anyway, and I like my PvP slot.
 * Thanks for the bear, anyway. Should be amusing for IWAY. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 09:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for butting in... again... but don't forget, some random shitters think they have recognised you =) A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 11:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And this is where Mule Was Entropy got added to my friends, so that I'm not like "Who the fuck is this?" 3 days later. :P And if I ever want to take a pet into PvP, it's Mr. Gaybird Skittles or nothing! :D RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is why my mule never leaves the guild hall. I've been thinking about getting him to level 20 or maybe even PvP-ready, but...eh, maybe I'll just play in asian districts or something. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 19:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Or you could just tell people they got the wrong person and that you've never been to the wiki. :P My encounters usually don't go past "Hey, I've seen you on the wiki!" "Cool. :D" the end... And I'm actually playing my other characters more than my main now, trying to get them to beat campaigns and learn some good skills. Rose just does some Zquests because she's the fastest in HM, or goes on a binge in some random town wearing some random disguise. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 04:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You were in my alliance for a while, back when Rask played Guild Wars. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The only time I ever got "recognised" was when some guy PM'ed the "last active user" to ask questions about stuff I didn't have a clue about ^^ .--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 12:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been recognized in game before... for some reason, they only recognized who I was after I transformed into an ooze... --Macros 14:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well thats a big surprise. I've never been recognized, exept for being bothered for free runs to ice tooth cave for the wiki party. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 16:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have not once gotten recognized from the wiki. I always recognize someone else, and then they realize who I am.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ  04:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I was most recently recognized in Etnaran Keys outpost and during a Fort Aspenwood battle. Of course, it helps that my IGN is Felix Omni, and Rose's is Rose Of Kali. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * More people have realized my IGN is a reference to the Tales series than people that have recognized me from the wiki =/ Cress Arvein [[Image:Cress sig.JPG]] 17:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * When I'm on my PvP slots, those usually have strange names which no one would connect to me; however, I do roll the same names sometimes, so perhaps some people would remember. I do play a lot of AB with my usual PvE characters, but I've yet to be recognized or remembered there...which is, in some ways, a good thing. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 18:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Urgoz
Pleasure doing the mission with ya! (went as Tai Fang Shinden with Kanaxai Doombringer) GW-Susan 01:20, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You too. My Kurzick faction cap is happy. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 01:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice playin with ya, Entropy! Hope you can sell that Vertebreaker! Slypher the executive director 14:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Just read the ticket. (said in mock Gigathrash voice)
RSVP on User:Gigathrash/D&D IRC RP --Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 06:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC) -- AudreyChandler 06:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression that the whole thing had been called off. What gives? Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 08:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Last I heard, Gigathrash just fumbled up the time zone conversions and scheduled something no one (including them) could conveniently attend. I assume they've returned to their abacus and sextant and are merely waiting for the stars to align properly again before re-setting a date/time. At this juncture I am led to suspect that your network of spies and informants has failed you, and a disciplinary execution is recommended to instill proper motivation in their future efforts. I have a spare scimitar if you need to borrow one. -- AudreyChandler 08:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

As seen in RA
--Łô√ë <font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ 21:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget!
--Łô√ë <font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ 18:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Concept art
I just found a load of old concept art, and only one of them had been previously uploaded here. Check them out here if you want. I don't exactly know the liscence (or how to spell that word), since I got the pictures off of the beta disk from pre-ordering the original game.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 21:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Fansite kit license is best. I have hundreds of them on my HD, too many to upload, really. -- ◄mendel► 22:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Recent Changes
Apparently lost the collapse and expand option for me. Right now everything is permanently expanded.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 23:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Please report on your skin, your browser, any javascript errors you may be seeing, and check your personal prefereces, I think there is a setting (and also a toggle on the RC page itself?). -- ◄mendel► 23:57, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't know there was an option to collapse RC... Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 00:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm using Monobook and IE 7... but it fixed itself when the day changed... that was weird.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 00:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * .This is what it's supposed to look like. But for a few minutes, the blue arrows that collapse and expand edits to a single page disappeared and everything expanded.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 00:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, you're using the "other" kind of recent changes. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 00:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ?Other? Didn't know there was more than one kind...--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 00:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Winter in June ftw. Anyway, what you describe is what I get when I turn Javascript off in FF3, and presumably it would be similar in IE7, so let's take the easy way out and blame it on advertising JavaScript. If it happens again, see Help:Bad advertisements. -- ◄mendel► 06:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I use oldskool RC. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 06:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

moar theatre kthx
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-- ◄mendel► 09:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Not bad. The UC Berkeley 8-bit Drumline is better though, imho. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 23:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

VALOO
Remember the other day when you were like "They should make a new Golden Sun game?" WEEEEEELL they are! 23:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Holy shit Foolix, now I might actually have an excuse to get a DS. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 23:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

<3
we should play guild wars again some time &mdash;Blastedt 19:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * omg like hi!
 * I'd love to, but my average ping these days is in the 4-digit or 5-digit range. It's really hard to play anything. >.> Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 20:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you need to drop your 28.8k modem. It isn't the early 90's anymore, Entropy, we do have a thing called cable internet, its awesome and fairly cheap.  [[Image:RHSig.jpg]] talk 03:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My connection is perfectly fine, GW is the *only* thing that performs horribly. I'm not the only one experiencing this, either. But thank you for assuming. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 23:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * FWIW, my otherwise-fine connection is also really mushy and bad in GW lately. The demented rubberbanding makes playing a melee prof nearly unbearable. In comparison, WoW is crisp as fresh lettuce. :P -- AudreyChandler 05:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * FWIW? Frenzy With Illusionary Weaponry? Wow, failure :P --Gimmethegepgun 06:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * :( &mdash;[[Image:BlastThatT.jpg]]Blastedt 20:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Your bodies will ornate my chambers forever
The next IRC RP will be held at 5:00 UTC (10:00 p.m. pacific) THURSDAY Tell someone somewhere if you can't go. Also, RT, your schedule is basically opposite of everyone else's. Soz again.--Łô√ë <font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ  06:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Guh...I really shouldn't, I go to bed at like 9:00 pm now. But whatever, it'll be fun. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 23:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * NEVERMIND, I have a plane to catch Thursday. You can go ahead and write me out of the script. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 14:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Your name
Where did it come from. I met a person on a different game with the same name last night...Abbadons X 18:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't remember anymore. This is a fairly popular name for games, though, so there are probably a bunch of other "Entropy" users out there. I don't use it outside of Guild Wars. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 18:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I know the unreal tournament series uses Entropy as a name for one of the Liandri corporation robots so anyone who's played enough UT3 has probably "been killed by Entropy" -<font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  07:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * /trolled. You're not online anymore bitch D:  rąʂKƴ <font color="Black">ɖooƿɭɘş  05:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't have any reason TO be on Lag Wars. I can't do shit because the GW connection is suck and terrible and has been for weeks now. I can't PvP at all. I don't even want to do anything in PvE, since the only useful things I have left to do is getting my last characters through Nightfall. Which is boring as fuck. So I'd just be idling in the guild hall. And that's pretty pointless.
 * I might get on for Mamza, though. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 06:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You can get on for MAMZA but not for me. I see how it is. Whore <_<. By the way, I got everlasting cottontail tonic!!!!!!!!! >:D  rąʂKƴ <font color="Black">ɖooƿɭɘş  21:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Grammar
"someone had told Salad and me" is of course correct. "Someone" is the subject, "had told" is the predicate, and "Salad and me" is the object, so you need to use objective case. -- ◄mendel► 10:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Damn, you beat me to it!--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]<font color="Green">El_Nazgir 11:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Salad and me" are the objects. :P A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 11:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 'fraid not AFK, that's a use/mention confusion. "Salad and me" is the phrase 'x', the phrase 'x' is the object. Since it's only one phrase 'is' is correct, not 'are'. -<font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  11:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually it was an excuse for me to sneak in and join the convo :( A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 11:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ezekiel is right, because your use of "are" indicates that you hold "Salad and me" as the subjects of your sentence, and then you have to write Salad and I are the objects of this sentence, since, no longer being objects, but subjects, objective case can no longer be used for "Salad and me". :-P -- ◄mendel► 12:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Selective blindness, Mendel? A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 12:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hell, I just guessed the second one was correct. Never did I think that I could get a grammer question right. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 12:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know the theory behind that stuff, I do that on instinct (even though I'm not native English :P ).--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]<font color="Green">El_Nazgir 12:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Both are incorrect.Meraida 13:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Entropy asked which is more correct :P The correct answer would be 'No. 2 is more correct', if Meraida is right. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  13:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) "Tell" is a weird verb anyway: I told him the secret; I told him about the secret; I told the secret to him (?); I talked to him about the secret. I told him. I told the secret. -- ◄mendel► 14:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yup, thus it should be "me". But the other part of his sentence is incorrect. Meraida 14:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see where it is, if you don't want to insert "that" as an object to "told". -- ◄mendel► 14:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 'It would have been nice'~. on an English exam, my teacher gave me a 0 on a writing ex. for making such a fault. Meraida 14:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see what's wrong tbh...--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]<font color="Green">El_Nazgir 15:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nazgir, Zoals je in het nederlands niet : 'Ik was gaan lopen' mag zeggen Meraida 15:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: It might have been."
 * - John Greenleaf Whittier &mdash; ◄mendel► 21:44, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * nice shot on that quote, mendel, but I still owned you on that one Meraida 04:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you had used the third conditional correctly, your English teacher would not have given you 0 points. I still don't understand why "It would have been nice if ..." is wrong. -- ◄mendel► 06:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I prefer to rephrase the sentence so the me vs I issue doesn't come up. Why? Because at least 20% of people will worry the grammar to death, distracting them from whatever point you were trying to make. e.g. Salad &amp; I would have preferred to have been warned before we vowed to hit, People Know Me. &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 23:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the sentence could be reworded for more clarity: "It would have been nice if someone had told me before I vowed to hit your mother." --Raj4h 00:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also good. And here's your warning, "there are dire consequences when you vow to hit someone's mother." ;-)  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 02:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)