Forum talk:Community Outlook- Wikia's "New Look"

Dunno, perhaps we should use the talkpage for comments? Idk. &mdash; Warw/Wick 17:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been boiling up - but I'm suppressing the rant atm Random Time 17:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. How about we move all articles into userspace, so it doesnt disrupt page content? For instance, User:Main Page, User:Cleave, User:Template:Cleave... :p &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 18:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, sounds like a plan xD--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (Talk /Contribs ) 19:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Monoco
"Anonymous logins went up 223%" No shit? You had to make a account to not put up with the monoco skin!

Thats entire section is a load of crap, optimized to load faster? How exactly is something with more colors and menus going to load faster? "Monaco is easier for new wiki users to understand. The majority of internet users still don't realize that there's an "edit" button on Wikipedia. That's because on Monobook, all the important links and buttons are written in 8.5-point type. Monaco is designed to make the important stuff stand out, like the edit button and the search box." If you cant see the buttons on top of the page already making them bigger isn't going to help you.

"In the past, communities have used various skins – Monaco, Quartz or Monobook. That's a luxury that we can't afford to offer any more, as advertisers strongly prefer a consistent look-and-feel." Fuck the advertisers, they don't run the wikis. Don't even get me started on the ad part...-- 19:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

no ads on stubs
From w:c:darth:Forum:We_love_you%2C_Wikia.: * Two things in the plan have changed with the first load of feedback... ads won't show on short pages, if it's a stub it will be automatically skipped, and the squished main page idea is on its way out. There will still be the need for a 300px column as part of the right hand side of the page, but the overall width will remain dynamic.

I know this is all a big change, and I know that people are worried and angry. But I also know that change is necessary, and that we will come though it. -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 19:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC) So we simply run a bot to add to every single article. Bada-bing, bada-bam -- no new ads for anyone. Who's with me? /fistshake &mdash;Dr Ishmael  20:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Highfive Ishmael!  Light   Kitty   20:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Since Light is my sockpuppet, I totally agree! /highfive Ishy! &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yaya - worth a try - but do you want to change all normal stubs to something like "stubstub" just incase it dosn't work Random Time 20:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * X2... make a new "stub" template and throw the old one on every article with text like "SCREW WIKIA" and use the new ones on our real stubs! I'm serious.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 20:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not stubstub, substub - much better Random Time 20:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Or Stubly Stub. Like Manly Man but stubby. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  20:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * As an extension of this, I also propose adding a sitenotice in large text telling anonymous users to create accounts and switch to Monobook in order to protest Wikia's stupidity. Monobook 4ever!  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Go do it, ishy! &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with this, as long as it removes the horrid ads. Also, MayBot and PhoenixBot have the ability to preform this task as well; if you need any help that is ;o) -- Shadowphoenix  20:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm only semi-serious about stubbing the whole wiki, although it is an option. I'll work on the site notice thing, though.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would consider stubbing the entire wiki a great idea. At least just to see the response. Lord of all tyria 20:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I wonder if they would consider it a TOS violation... Not that I care, if it fails guildwiki will die anyways...--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 20:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps we should rename ourselves to StubWiki, or GuildStub then? --- -- (s)talkpage  20:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You don't think it would be hard for them to change it so that a certain page size would make the ads show up whether it's labeled a stub or not? That change sounds a lot easier than un-stubbing everything after it is made.  Quizzical 20:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't violate a ToS we never signed up for (unless you signed up to Gwiki when it was wikia) I think when I signed up it was gamewikis Random Time 20:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi guys -- Just so you know... The short pages are determined by the length of the article, not by a stub template or category. Check out this page on Communitytest to see how it'll work.


 * Also, Monobook will have the same ads as Monaco will. The right sidebar on Monobook will go away, and Monobook will have the in-article ads. Monobook and Monaco will be the same ad-wise.


 * Let me know if you have any other questions....... -- Danny (talk ) 21:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Make a copy of every page and template it in the real article? There's always a way... --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  21:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah - where can I find a database dump - the old page dosn't work Random Time 21:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

To stub ALL the articles, seems to be a bit drastic, don't you think? Yes, no one likes adds, but is it really worth going through all that trouble? Wikia will most likely notice something like this anyway and take action (like mentioned before, looking at page size and not whether it's stubbed or not). Silver Sunlight 21:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * O nevermind... maybe I should read edit conflicts :P Silver Sunlight [[Image:SSunlight.jpg|19px]] 21:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)