User talk:Tetris L

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Please show some respect
What is the problem exactly? A few days ago you go into this tirade about how I'm in one of my "I'm right and the whole world is wrong" tirades as if I'm your wife or something. Today you "resist the urge" twice to make fun of me. What is wrong with you? Do you think this is an appropriate way to carry out discussions and contribute in this wiki?

Think of me what you will and form your own theories and analysis of my person, I frankly could try and care less, but it would be impossible. But when it comes to dealing with me in this wiki, I expect you to treat me with the same professional respect you offer any co-worker at a work place. While you may make snide remarks about them behind their backs at the water-cooler, you certainly would not keep assaulting their person repeatedly in public and hope to get away with it.

I have differed with you on many issues. Yet never have I belittled you or "fought the urge" the make fun of you or made psychological analysis of what is wrong with you. I do not do this because I fear you or love you, I do not know you even. I do it because it is your right upon me as a human and because it is the only way this wiki can remain industrious and productive.

If you continue this campaign of ridicule then I will ask the admins to ban you, Tetris. And if my request is denied then I shall leave. I do not need this. I do this for fun and exploration, not to form cyber enemies I don't even know. I hope you will reconsider your present course of action. --Karlos 05:19, 4 November 2005 (EST)


 * I think I have already explained at length on many occasions what my problem with your action is, but here we go again ...


 * I found it hard to resist to make a remark because the Leaver discussion was a near perfect example of what has happened so often in the past: You edit somebody's contribution claiming that it's "subjective" or even "complete conjecture" and replace it with your own opinion instead, which is just as subjective and arguable. But you're so convinced of yourself that you take your opinion as definite and try to shut down people who don't agree. And the fact that you even admitted that you "place a lot of stock in [your] experience" was the cherry on top. (Even though it was a bit of an understatement.)


 * You have never "made psychological analysis of what is wrong with [me]" or "belittled" me?? For one of many examples, how about this one? I'm referring to the "You're convinced that this is all about you ..." part. Read through that whole talk again, and ask yourself: If roles were reversed, would you consider your remarks as "respectful"?


 * Sorry, as long as you delete other people's contributions (not just mine) as arbitrary as you've done and as long as you're not willing to accept that your own opinion is just as questionable as anyone else's, I will keep criticizing your action, openly and with sarcastic remarks too, if I find it reasonable.


 * I say what I say openly, not behind your back. It's not like I log off to make snide remarks under an anonymous IP or something. I don't even have to hide behind my nickname. I would say the very same things when we sit face to face. If you want to, we can get on voicecom to talk.


 * If you have to, go ahead and ask for me to be banned. I have always enjoyed contributing to this Wiki and I will continue to do so as long as I'm welcome. But if the majority of people here (admins or community) think that I'm a troublemaker and that I should leave, I will do so immediately. I won't bÃ­tch and whine for a second. I've been a regular on internet forums long enough to know that it's not worth any personal drama. This is just the internet after all, and this is just a Wiki about a game.


 * One last thing: I'm not your enemy. Several time you told me that I'm taking things too personal. Now it's you who is taking things far too personal. Making an enemy over something as unimportant as a computer game or a wiki would be ridiculous. --Tetris L 17:02, 4 November 2005 (EST)


 * Read the example you provided, read the "get off my back" statement you said and you'll see my response was very respectable. I was telling you that I am not on your back and should not be on your back because the discussion was never about you. You're the one who said it was about you, not I.
 * I did not say you are saying anything behind my back. Read the example I gave again.
 * I believe I have made my position very clear. As I said, you are absolutely entitled to your own theories about how and why I make eidts in the wiki. That being said, I ask that you stop making personal comments about my person in a public forum. You have now responded that you will not stop. The ball is now in your court. You can choose to respect my rights in this matter, or you can go ahead and continue to insult me with the likely outcome that the wiki will lose one of us (and most likely myself). Your move. --Karlos 18:26, 4 November 2005 (EST)