User talk:Hamster

Hi Hamster. Thanks for helping in this Wiki. Just a request: When you add a boss, could you add a little more than just the "skills used"? Like what type of creature he is, and the general area he can be found in. And please add to the article, so that it is marked as incomplete, so other users can jump in and help to complete it. Thanks! --Tetris L 04:50, 2 November 2005 (EST)
 * Oh, and one more thing: It doesn't make much sense to add a boss for skill acquisition if the respective skill trainer or quest can be reached before the boss, or before you even get your first Signet of Capture. --Tetris L 04:52, 2 November 2005 (EST)

I am adding all the information I currently have, as I just took screen shot of the capture screens, but in future I will note more information... ah ok will add stub from now on :)...

Why doesn't it make sense?... I thought the idea of the wiki was to have as complete a source of information as possible... --Hamster 2 November 2005


 * It's a simple formula: If I tell you that you can capture Orison of Healing from Willa the Unpleasant, is this useful information? No. Why?
 * a) If you are a monk, then you picked up Orison for free when you were level 2.
 * b) Same thing if you are a secondary monk.
 * c) Finally, if you are a player who switched his secondary to monk after Ascension, it is no longer "cheaper" to capture the skill. Just walk up to Dakk the Man in Ember Light Camp and get the skill from him for the exact same price as a Signet of Capture and without having to wade through the Abaddon's Mouth mission to look for Willa the Very Unpleasant.
 * The same applies to basic skills such as Gash and Sever Artery. --Karlos 05:18, 2 November 2005 (EST)

I disagree but since I am the new person here I will go with the standard... --Hamster 2 November 2005


 * No, if you disagree, by all means, please explain why! --Tetris L 07:26, 2 November 2005 (EST)

If you where trying to aquire a skill wouldn't you want to know every possible location for it? Sure Dakk has all the non-elite skills but knowing that you can cap Healing Spring from Drogo Greatmane in Reed Bog which you are going to be going through anyway instead of running all the way back to Captain Greywind in The Ascalon Settlement or waiting till you get to Henge of Denravi has some value doesn't it? I guess skills Troll Unguent could be overkill thou as almost every ranger boss has it... --Hamster 07:42, 2 November 2005 (EST)


 * To your first question, no. As Karlos just explained, some of it's useless.  It's not always useless (though your example is a little weak).  A better one is aftershock which you can get in a few places long before the first trainer has it.  Just compare where the trainer or quests are to where the boss is and sometimes it doesn't make sense to list the skill.  --Fyren 08:45, 2 November 2005 (EST)

Maybe it should be more explicit which bosses are to be listed in those sections? For example, instead of "Signet of Capture:", label them "Signet of Capture (which can be performed before reaching trainers):". Not that I like that wording, but you get the idea. --Rezyk 08:39, 2 November 2005 (EST)