Talk:Festival Prize

Merge?
Support Merge and clean up too-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 14:27, 20 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Agreed to merge and cleanup. If this article gets merged, please redirect links in the Victory Tokens article as well. Thanks! --[[Image:SmallMapleLeaf.jpg|User:ImbrilShadowfire]] Imbril Shadowfire  15:25, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

Disgaree with merge, I thought we have an article for the festival prizes, no? --Karlos 16:39, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

Shouldn't this be moved to Boardwalk Prize instead of merged with Shing Jea Boardwalk? --Smurf 17:13, 20 October 2006 (CDT)


 * /Agree w/Smurf. WTF is with all this merge w/Shing Jea Boardwalk I'm seeing tonight?  --Rainith 21:12, 20 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I agree with Smurf as well. Move to Boardwalk Prize to get rid of the pluralization. In regards to the cleanup, this page should probably have a very similar layout to the Festival Prize page since the items are so closely related. &mdash;Vendetta411 14:37, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

Broadwalk Prizes are a item in the game and as such they should have their own article. I don't see anything that warrants a merge. --84-175 (talk) 19:07, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I agree. Do not merge with the Boardwalk article. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg|25px]] 19:15, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

I retroactively disagree with my own merge suggestion. ;) I didn't realize that this is really an ingame item.--MRA 13:12, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

Category
Should this not be in a new category "Shing Jea Boardwalk 2006" or something similar as it is not part of the dragon festival. --Lemming64 09:24, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

Old talk from Festival Prize
Anyone know the the approximate chances for getting each? --MasterPatricko (sorry, can't log in)


 * It seems to me, that cake and the gold is much rarer than jade wind orbs or rice wine. Out of 40 prizes i got:
 * - 19 x 5 Jade Wind Orbs
 * - 18 x Rice Wine
 * - 3 x Red Bean Cake
 * - 0 x 1000 Gold
 * --Nelee La Fer 07:41, 30 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Just opened 250 Prizes with the following results. It seems the gold is in fact less common.
 * - 92 x 5 Jade Wind Orb
 * - 87 x Red Bean Cake
 * - 58 x Rice Wine
 * - 13 x 1000 Gold
 * --Anonymous Coward 23:10, 30 June 2006 (CDT)

My guess is it's something like 30/30/30/10. Why so high on the gold probability? well it's intuition. personally from opening about 10-15, I had 2-3 1000 golds, but it may have been luck. --204.112.128.189 01:50, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

Prize odds
Not sure of the value; but I reformatted the posted prize odds made by an anon. Their initial post / data is shown below: --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:40, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Note:
 * 1 Festival Ticket = 15 gold, 1 Festival Prize = 25 Festival Tickets, 250 Festival Prizes = 93,750 gold. 


 * Set 1 of 250 Festival Prizes Yield: 12000 gold 12 sets of 1000, 430 Jade Wind Orbs 86 sets of 5, 75 Bottles of Rice Wine, 77 Red Bean Cakes. 


 * Set 2 of 250 Festival Prizes Yield: 13000 gold 13 sets of 1000, 500 Jade Wind Orbs 100 sets of 5, 71 Bottles of Rice Wine, 66 Red Bean Cakes. 


 * Set 3 of 250 Festival Prizes Yield: 9000 gold 9 sets of 1000, 530 Jade Wind Orbs 106 sets of 5, 55 Bottles of Rice Wine, 80 Red Bean Cakes. 


 * Set 4 of 250 Festival Prizes Yield: 14000 gold 14 sets of 1000, 535 Jade Wind Orbs 107 sets of 5, 67 Bottles of Rice Wine, 62 Red Bean Cakes. 


 * Summary: out of 1000 presents = 375,000 gold Yield: 48000 gold 48 sets of 1000, 1995 Jade Wind Orbs 399 sets of 5, 268 Bottles of Rice Wine, 285 Red Bean Cakes. 


 * 1 Present will yield: 4.8% chance 1000 gold, 39.9% chance 5 Jade Wind Orbs, 26.8% chance Bottle of Rice Wine, 28.5% chance Red Bean Cake. 


 * Stats by: Rudhraighe O Hagan &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.147.18.110 (talk &bull; contribs).


 * Here are my % from opening 250 prizes


 * Token (sets of 5 tokens) 88 35.3%
 * rice wine 65 26%
 * bean cakes 83 33.2%
 * platinum (1k) 14 5.6%


 * The cost of 250 prizes is 93,750GP (250*375GP)
 * The value of the rewards (valuing 10 tokens/2 sets of 5 at 600gp - based on creme brule being 3 sweetooth points) is 86,600 - Or a loss of 7,150GP vs buying equivalent booze and sweetooth point direct from merchant.


 * Just for interest I opened 50 of my prizes in a game area under 'lucky aura' but there was no obvious benefit in terms of the rewards recieved from doing so that I could discerne.


 * Erolz 08:36, 24 February 2007 (CST)


 * It says that the percentage forgetting a plat out of a prize is 5% but in my experience and with some of the people I have talked to is that it is more like 10%. In the last 2 finale's I have for every 50 prizes I have gotten 4-5 plat. It's the same story with people in my guild too. - Strato  (talk) [[Image:User_strato_stratus_signature.png]] 13:03, 8 July 2007 (CDT)

Scam
Should we add to the scam section about this one? Kessel 06:41, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

Name Changed to Boardwalk Prize?
I believe all the old festival prizes turned into Boardwalk Prizes. Unless I missplaced my festival prize. Can anyone else confirm this or am I mistaken? --Smurf 10:39, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Confirmed, the item has been renamed in-game. All my old Festivel Prizes that I had stored away on a mule are now Broadwalk Prizes. --84-175 (talk) 10:54, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I think it's safe then to move the article, but leave the redirect in place. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 10:58, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Are Festival Prizes and Broadwalk Prizes actually the same item with a different name? I assume you can't get Jade Wind Orbs from Broadwalk Prizes, can you? --84-175 (talk) 11:07, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I disagree with move/merge. The Boardwalk Prizes ARE probably the Festival Prizes witha twist, however, they were called Festival Prizes and if anyone still has them, I bet their names have not been changed. Just mention each in the other's article. --Karlos 13:17, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I should've been more clear. If you had any Festival Prizes from the Dragon Festival 2006, their names have been changed to Boardwalk Prizes. Like Eightyfour-onesevenfive stated above, his old Festival Prizes has been renamed to Boardwalk Prizes. So Festival Prizes don't exist anymore. --Smurf [[Image:User_Smurf.gif]] 13:42, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Yes, like already said, I still had Festival Prizes from the Dragon Festival and they are not Festival Prizes anymore now, but Broadwalk Prizes. However, I tend to think now that we should keep two articles nonetheless, because both Prizes have a different set of rewards, as seen on the now existing page for Broadwalk Prizes. --84-175 (talk) 19:05, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
 * It shouldn't be moved. The Boardwalk Prize article has already been created. This one should be kept in-tact and a note should be attached that these items no longer exist. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg|25px]] 19:13, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

Has anyone tested to see if the "new" prizes stack with the "old" prizes? If they do, then I would bet that they actually changed the "old" ones to the "new" ones and you won't get Jade Wind Orbs from any of the old ones anymore. --Rainith 20:51, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Oh. If the name has been changed, then we MUST merge. Why keep two separate articles for the same item? Just make a redirect from Festival Prize to Boardwalk Prize and then place a note about the name change (and the different outcome) in the main article. --Karlos 21:10, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * They stack. --Smurf [[Image:User_Smurf.gif]] 02:12, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

Profit
The calculation about the profit: With one boardwalk prize (=25 tickets) you can expect to win 0.4*(5*20)+0.3*200+0.25*200+0.05*1000=200, which is less than the value of the tickets (375). Dragnmn  talk  12:10, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Moved from article
The following was moved from the main article to here ... it really belongs in the talk page for tracking purposes. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 10:45, 8 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Note: For those who are doing their own tracking and would like to add the real numbers here they are: 7186 Tokens, 1074 Bean Cakes, 906 Rice Wine, 195 Platinum. (9291 total Boardwalk Prizes opened.)


 * Note that the % chances are no longer accurate with regards to the new statistics.