GuildWiki talk:Sock puppetry

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an unpolicy...
still a policy? I'll review in the morning. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 07:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, there's not exactly a way to break this, so I would challenge calling it a policy (same is true with a few other ones that are currently policy). I'm merely documenting some stuff that people should keep in mind in the absence of a policy, since this topic comes up every once in a while. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 18:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Banstick waving?
After reviewing the history of User:F G, I am thoroughly opposing any accusations of sockpuppetry, except when
 * the evidence is completely clear, and
 * the alledged sockpuppeteering has had significant to major impact on the operation of the wiki.

Rationale:
 * 1) Sockpuppet accusations tend to create wikidrama or exacerbate any drama already present
 * 2) placed on a new user's talkpage, they tend to come across as weird and make it hard for the user to feel at home on the wiki.

For that reason, a sockpuppet accusation and the accompanying drama needs some benefit (i.e. the discovery that the wiki suffered from it) to offset the wikidrama, and there had better be good evidence, or there'll just be drama and no impact.

--◄mendel► 19:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I also have a general stance against accusation of sockpupptry, but I wouldn't wave a banstick unless the accusation is outright hostile and confrontational when the accused account has done nothing proactively disrupting to the wiki. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 00:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * See User talk:LongCat. I don't like how this played out at all. --◄mendel► 00:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Meh. I still think if properly worded it doesn't have to be harmful and doesn't have to be banned.  See the last sentence of the current language of the article. If you see a need to ban, you have the right to do so as long as it's a case-by-case basis on the particular circumstances of the situation.  I just oppose a blank ban. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 00:33, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not advocating a blanket ban. But that last sentence you refer to is insufficient, it's as if you ask someone you meet whether they have an infectious disease. Word it as politely as you will, that person is going to think you're very strange, unless they know you better. (Well, even people who know me better think I'm a bit strange, but you know what I mean.) --◄mendel► 00:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The worthiness of a ban is proportional to how much harm the "ban-ee" has done through their actions. In this particular case, while it was certainly not the nicest thing to do, I don't believe any bans are warranted since it does not seem like any significant harm was done.
 * Accusations of sockpuppetry are very srs bsns and should not be thrown around idly. While I think there are few legitimate reasons for it, it all comes down to intent of course. For example, if one registered a sock for purposes of an event (User:Spirit of Wintersday comes to mind), then that is harmless. Even if one can "prove" a sock beyond a shadow of a doubt, I don't see the need unless they have done something disruptive/ban-worthy, since then of course the "puppetmaster" must also serve sentence.
 * By the way I am curious what sparked the sudden interest in this policy, since even though that is our most famous sockpuppetry case it is quite old. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not about "this particular case", I wanted to find out/establish what the consensus is. Explaining my interest is offtopic here, I can do that on irc sometime. --◄mendel► 01:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)