Talk:The Amnoon Oasis

"The Amnoon Oasis" is the correct spelling, everywhere it is referenced in the game. "Amnoon Oasis" should be redirected here.

I can't imagine why this would have been marked for deletion. --Uigrad

to bring it back here: Special:Wantedpages until someone fills in some GOOD content. --Ollj

Tanaric, what's your reasoning? --Fyren 06:13, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)

It's Amnoon Oasis (without the) in the ingame map. --Geeman 06:19, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Not on mine. Did you check or are you going off memory?  --Fyren 06:26, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Oops, my mistake. I checked this map and did not look carefully enough, The seems to be faded by a cloud or something :p --Geeman 06:31, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)

I have to agree. This should be the canonical page and the other should redirect. If necessary this can be referred to with Amnoon Oasis or whatever. MartinLightbringer 08:17, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * Yeah, definitely "The Amnoon Oasis". There's not much on Amnoon Oasis so I won't bother with a move. Feel free to remove the delete template here though and add the correct information. 08:26, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)

Oops. Didn't look at the talk page before changing s, because I was looking through a certain editor's recent contributions at the time, and assumed his  on Amnoon Oasis was misguided. Sorry about that. However, I stand by the sentiment, even though the delete tag was inappropriate. We don't say "I went to The White House after visiting The Parliament Building and The Louvre." In English, necessary articles before a proper noun do not become part of that proper noun. I notice that Henge of Denravi is an article, and not The Henge of Denravi, even though the "the" must exist when using the location in a sentence (ignoring the improper delete tag on THAT page... *sigh*). &mdash;Tanaric 20:02, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * Gah, my example is bad, but not because I'm wrong; even though everybody should use a "the" before "Henge of Denravi," it seems that nobody but me actually does. Still, I hope my point is clear.  &mdash;Tanaric 20:42, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * While your point isn't incorrect, the issue as most of us seem to see it, is that on the game map the "The" is there, so that's what the article should be called. Martin mentioned you can just do Amnoon Oasis, so I don't think there's a problem.  --Fyren 05:45, 3 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * /sigh. I'll defer to the will of the majority, of course, but I don't like it. Be sure to link to the Amnoon Oasis in most cases, though, as that way proper case is preserved.  MediaWiki is case-insensitive to the first letter of an article title, so this is both appropriate and useful. &mdash;Tanaric 19:41, 3 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * Wait, before I do that, I want to argue the case more. In the game, the "the" is used because the Amnoon Oasis is only referred to in that context&mdash;as a subject or an object.  However, there are plenty of usages where even the game wouldn't use the "the."  For example: "An Amnoon Oasis–based Xunlai Storage Agent was found dead."  Just because that particular sentence structure isn't in the game does not mean that it's invalid.  Removing the "the" from the article title does not cause it to conflict with the game in the least. &mdash;Tanaric 19:47, 3 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * It's much easier to say " There was someone in the Amnoon Oasis " than it is to say " An Amnoon Oasis–based Xunlai... ". I'm not saying I know which is correct, but I don't disagree with Tanaric here. 08:19, 7 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * A lot of the choices for capitalization are based solely on "the game has it that way." Death penalty is Death Penalty, as far as I know, only because when you ctrl-click on it, that's what it says.  This is the same.  On the map, it says "The Amnoon Oasis."  --Fyren 16:26, 7 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * This is where I come in! I think we have been doing it wrong all along. I believe we should:
 * Make the search engine case insensitive
 * Use proper Capitalization rules of the English Language and avoid this mess of "Morale boost" or "morale Boost" or "The Searing" vs "Searing" and "The Mamnoon Lagoon" vs "Mamnoon Lagoon"
 * The standard right now is wobbly. It's whatever the game does. Capitalization is obviously not done consistently in the game. Some skill descriptions use different style than other skills. We should just use the standard and avoid this entire controversy. --Karlos 17:30, 7 Aug 2005 (EST)