GuildWiki talk:Wikia Migration/Archive

Copy+Pasted word for word from entropys talk. If anyone has another way to put it, go on. I just think that it should be in a more accessable location than Entropys archive. &mdash; Warw/Wick 18:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Header needs to be updated now, though. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Noes it doesnt :) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well played, sir. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Updated, and made it so its not only to Entropy now. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 18:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not verbatim! You are hax. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Annoyed...
I'm assuming this is due to the migration and everything, (I've been away for the past couple days) discussion pages now swap the nav sidebar to the right side. Is there a way to keep this on the left? Because it is very irritating. -- Sk8  (T / C)  15:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an april fools prank, on my talk page I have a note - I will remove in about 10 mins if nobody thinks it is appropriate RT | Talk  15:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Its an april fools prank, which imo is annoying. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 15:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Favicon
Original GuildWiki favicon seems to have been lost and replaced by Wikia favicon (yellow "W"). TulipVorlax 16:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * looks like this was fixed Angies 15:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * With some pressing... RT | Talk  15:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Show/Hide-feature
Some show/hide-features on my userpage do not work any longer (e.g. ). Is that correct? Will that be fixed? --tapps75 20:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Preliminarily, it seems that Show/Hide only works now if information to be toggled is added in the /NavFrame page, although this severely limits customizability. I'm still messing with them, though. [[Image:Ruricu-sig.png]] ( Talk • Contribs) 23:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is the show hide stuff working everywhere else? Because suddenly some changes that I made to my own css regarding it are showing up unexpectedly. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 03:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My showhide things are working normally, though I have other formatting added rather than just using the showhide template itself. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Showing up unexpectedly how? As I mentioned here, I made some changes a few minutes ago to make the HTML on the site behave more like it did before.. --KyleH (talk) 04:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Why are none of them closing? Or recognized as code now? -- 22:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I hate it when they change the fucking wiki coding, cuz then it messes up THOUSANDS of /div tags and THOUSANDS of external links that start with gw.gamewikis and all redirect to the fucking main page instead of what they are SUPPOSED to link to. It's annoying as hell.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Um, to start a div, type , NOT   -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 22:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No even the /divs that come at the end are messed up.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I cant end a div, I can start them, look at my header on userpage, I want to put a /div to end the box and add the note below but I can't.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 22:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, the coding on your user page has epic breakages... the fact that the old codebase didn't show those breakages is like IE doing things wrong so that ppl writing things wrong don't see the problem... >_<" -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Explain how is broken then please? And why I can't close the box off?--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 23:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's the CENTER that is killing stuff. Its very existence breaks the DOM and causes DIVs not to close.  You also had some FONT tags (which shouldn't be used also, but not the reason divs isn't closing IMO) that are not closing. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, in older versions of your header, not properly-closed FONT tags are also part of the problem why Divs aren't closing (the browser is still waiting for you to close the FONT first). -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I know many of you have already fixed the HTML in your user pages and in other places, but I went ahead and changed a setting so that MediaWiki will automatically clean up that code for you like it did before. It's a quick fix to a bigger problem (the bigger problem being that the HTML is broken in the first place), but hopefully it will help get things back to normal more quickly. --KyleH (talk) 03:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

on the bright side
They got rid of patrolled edits. No more red exclamations on RC FTW. Special:All log working is also FTW. <3 --Shadowcrest  22:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also: Polls are FTW.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Bleh. I don't want to see them popping up left and right, but it's a nice feature to have I suppose. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * But I LIKE the red exclamation marks! this is an EPIC PHAIL imo--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Eww. >.> --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh and I also HATE the new image that appears in my tabs now. It looks way to pixelated, completely unoriginal, and like they took all of three seconds to make it. At least change THAT back to the original. BLEH.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 23:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean in browsing tabs? I can't remember what it used to look like --Gimmethegepgun 23:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't either, but it looks suckage. Also, I see that message now and I have your .css gimme. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It used to look more like the shield that we have as our logo, much like GWW has their shield logo for their tab image.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 23:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, now I remember it. Might still be laying around on the server and we could change it back. And you know, I find it REALLY sad that less than 24 hours after the move, half the users have already nuked most of the changes into oblivion with their monobook.css --Gimmethegepgun 23:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * /bandwagon.
 * Wikia servers = great. Wikia sponsoring or whatever = awesome. Wikia crappy-ass skin changes without any options for users = nuke. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  23:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if anyone can get me a location for the old little icon (or upload it) then I know how I can OWN NUKE their piece of crap logo they gave us and replace it --Gimmethegepgun 23:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about?[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The little icon in browsing tabs (and next to the URL) --Gimmethegepgun 23:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Wikia crappy-ass skin changes without any options for users" <- um, aren't you being self-contradictory? We can change stuff. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I also have no idea what icon he is talking about, Entrea. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="maroon">Sk8 (T / C)  23:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The little icon next to the URL has been changed back already. On Firefox and IE. What's wrong with you?[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * NVM, I logged on after it was fixed. You'll need to clear your cache.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just did, and that piece of shit that they put in there (a sad little GW) is still there --Gimmethegepgun 23:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * When you click a link from TOC on talk pages it turns into a W again.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 23:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The "sad little GW" was uploaded by RT I think. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Gimme, it's ALWAYS been that "sad little GW"[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * (Reset indent) RT uploaded that today entrea :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that's the same icon by the URL I saw when we were still at the old gamewikis.org.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it used to be a shield like the logo --Gimmethegepgun 23:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not since I've been on the wiki, at least as far as I can remember.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've always seen a gold/black GW.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 23:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you implanted false memories in my brain by describing that old picture, because I think I remember it now. o_O[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, now they've replaced it with that Wikia W, I'm gonna go see if I can't make something outta the GuildWiki logo for myself --Gimmethegepgun 19:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay then... the Wikia W is gone, but I'm still making that icon --Gimmethegepgun 19:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

This page is broken
Why?--<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ Talk 03:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Screenshot? Things look normal to me. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 03:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I get the feeling someone didn't nowiki a /div a few sections up. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nvm, fixed now.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ Talk 03:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Found the extra  ;) --KyleH (talk) 03:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Protection
I'm not protecting atm, we'll see how much it'll be vandalised imo. --- -- (s)talkpage 18:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove the notice then? I just wanted to be pre-emptive. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 18:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm leaving it because: Others might think otherwise. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Article can be protected independently from the talk page... I see no reason for anyone to edit the article anyways, so might as well go pre-emptive. Unless someone else has a reason not to protect it? --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  18:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * There might be other news related to this, released later on. Who knows? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In which case autoconfirmeds, and wikia staff members, can add it. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 18:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The notice might invite random vandalism though... -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 18:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * So either protect it now, or remove the notice. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Great
All internal external links have been broken... again. What I mean by that are links to history pages. Like this. Every one of those links made before today no longer works. The same thing happened when we moved to wikia's servers. Is there any way to fix this, without going through every link and manually changing it? --Macros 18:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Venting thoughts
I like the poll tag that we can do. I do not like:
 * 1) The white sidebar
 * 2) The implications of that (they broke my page - and now I have to fix it)
 * 3) The loss of the favicon (it's in the right place, but all I see is a taunting wikia W)
 * 4) The fact that they created some work finding and restoring the mediawiki defults.
 * 5) The Wikia messages sidebar
 * 6) Jimmy Wales <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  07:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just customize over the sidebars, my main gripe is the lag, yes there's been more since the url changed! Otherwise I learned a bit about manipulating from this experience.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 08:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've asked a wikia team member to see if they can change it <font color="Blue">RT  </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  08:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, I hear you on the ad positions. I mentioned this three weeks ago when I first posted about the migration and no-one voiced that this was an issue. Now that I know it is, I am looking into what we can do to help. Will get back to you asap Angies 15:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  15:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Username Survey
Hey everyone. I know that some of you are worried about losing your usernames when we merge the user databases (per this discussion). I'm looking in to ways of preventing (or at least minimizing) username conflicts (especially among the most active users here), so I'd appreciate it if you could sign below to indicate whether or not you have already registered a separate account on Wikia in order to ensure that you are able to keep your username.

Sign your name with " "

I already have an account on Wikia that has the same username as my GuildWiki account

 * KyleH (talk)
 * Made it a while back &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 17:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage
 * [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]
 * Zulu Inuoe
 * <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest
 * Also created an acct a little while back. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="maroon">Sk8  (T / C)
 * Just made it now; No one uses my name ^_^ [[Image:Ruricu-sig.png]] ( Talk • Contribs)
 * Yup, sysop on 2 other wikia <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>
 * Same username on all wikis for me. Registered on Wikia for about a year now. Started two wikia there and that include the french wikia about Guild Wars. TulipVorlax 22:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No issues creating an account with this name on Wikia ;) &mdash; [[Image:Fin_sig.gif|User:Kyrasantae]] <font color=#000080>kyrasantae 
 * [[Image:Thoughtful-new-sig.jpg]] Thoughtful
 * Cress Arvein(Talk)
 * [[Image:AlariSig.jpg]]

I do not have a Wikia account separate from my GuildWiki account

 * I tried registering, but it appears to have been taken by an inactive user. [[Image:Maui_sig.png]]
 * Macros
 * I also tried registering but my name is taken :/ <font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>
 * "Poki" is already taken, but I don't know if it's an active user or not. If he's inactive, then I would request my username being unchanged, but if that's impossible then please change my username to "Poki3" and not GW-Poki :P &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]]
 * I tried registering but "Entropy" seems to be reserved already. Can't find any info about them, as they have no talkpage, no uesrpage, and no contribs or log entries...and I don't feel like hunting through hundreds of Wikia wikis to find which one they reside at. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C)
 * War Pig5
 * I tested the reservation status of my user name by trying to create one for wikia. Gem was taken, but I was able to create Gemi. That's what I want to use if I'm required to change. (didn't confirm the creation of that account yet though in case it might cause trouble) -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 03:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * //<font color="Green">Alcedo Storysparrow \\ Nuhuh. Data change phails.

Comments

 * 3 tildes gives name w/o date, by the way. Less cluttering. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "especially among the most active users here" because obviously, they are far more important than everyone else--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  18:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound that way. I just said it because they're the ones more likely to notice the message. :) --KyleH (talk) 18:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

WTF
I just got an edit conflict with myself (checked page history, edits were consecutive), but then the edit had been added anyway when i looked at the page. How can i have an edit conflict with my own edit and why was my edit shown when it specifically said that it wouln't be because of an edit conflict. Has this happened to anyone before the migration or is it a wikia problem?--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  18:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you hit "Save" twice? If not, might be a transaction session issue.  I usually see it when a save is taking too long and I'm trying again, or after a save I hit back immediately to make some tiny changes which conflicts with myself. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 18:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been happening more and more often, because since the Wikia move hitting Save page often takes nearly a minute to submit the changes. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok, hammering the save button in frustration when it was taking ages probably wasn't the best of ideas then ;) --<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  18:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Once I clicked save, Firefox asked me... where do I want to save the index.php file @_@. The edit saved though, because when I canceled the download and clicked save again I got an edit conflict with myself xD &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 21:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Self EC has always been possible. It just used to be a lot rarer. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Major Issue
ALL external links to gw.gamewikis auto-redirects to the main page of this. This breaks tens of thousands of external links within the site alone, without other sites' links to GuildWiki. This problem NEEDS to be fixed in a way that doesn't require manual changing of each individual link. Since you guys can automatically fix all the extra /div tags that were left after the migration, I'm presuming you can also fix this issue, at least on this site, if not the others. Please address this problem as soon as physically possible. Thank you-- (Talk) (Contr.) 18:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate on this? http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki_talk:Wikia_Migration, for example, works fine for me. --KyleH (talk) 19:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it was already fixed? Hmm, I meant to post this yesterday, when they weren't working. In that case, I apologize.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 19:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I did post it yesterday. --Macros 19:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw the post yesterday, but by the time I saw it I think the issue had already been fixed. Let me know (by posting on this page) if you come across any links that don't work properly (or any other technical issues for that matter). --KyleH (talk) 19:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Template problem
Check out Draconic Scythe, Dredge Gutter, and Vizu. Notice anything odd about their info templates? Such as gray lines running through them? I don't know why this is happening, but it's affecting nearly every article on the wiki, so it had better get fixed. 03:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I talked to Pan about this. Gamewikis had default backgrounds as "white", but Wikia's default is "clear" so an admin/template wizard needs to add a white background to all our templates[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, very good then. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I found out how, add background: #FFFFFF; to the top row of each template, I'll add to unprotected ones. Now we just need an admin to do Skill box and stuff.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, skill boxes are fine (I think), so we should be good now.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermond, no-attribute skills are stripey. Will get an admin to fix.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

OMG - positive comment!
I like how category pages now have +(expand) on them. I use this page frequently: Category: Collectable drops. For future further improvement: If there was a way to give each of those categories an icon (the item's picture) it would be even awesomer (I also wish I coulda made that a wikipedia link to Awesomer).--War Pig5 03:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * you mean like Awesomer? -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 04:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Lines through info boxes
anyone else see this as a problem <B><font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B>  07:56, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * See two sections above. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * TBH I don't. --//<font color="Green">Alcedo Storysparrow \\ 19:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Interlingua
Just for information. Does anyone know what happened to the interlinguage link that the Main page had before thoses changes ? TulipVorlax 17:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I will respond to myself because i checked to history of the main page. PanSola remove them until they find some fix for some bug caused by the "move". TulipVorlax 01:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I removed them by accident, the "fix" you are talking about is me fixing my mistake, not related to Wikia move d-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 01:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok then. ;-) It's a sysop of the french GW wikia that said "they have no link to us"... But i knew they where added to all wiki at the same time... TulipVorlax 07:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)