GuildWiki talk:Software and technical issues/Bugs

Indentation of Stub templates
It looks like when you include something, that eats a single newline that's right after the include, if there is one. So doing: Here's this article's text! Is the same as: Here's this article's text! The templates page on meta doesn't seem to describe this. Maybe it is a bug. Putting two newlines after the include in the article or a line break (as Karlos did in stance) works. --Fyren 16:22, 17 October 2005 (EST)

Image loss
Somewhat random additional information: the image pages for the missing files still report a (sensible) file size, the web server reports a 404 for the URLs the wiki thinks the images are at, and most bizarrely, for broken images that have been replaced, the wiki simply loses the file name for the old, missing revision (see Image:Backfire.png, the dates are links to the images-- Melly's new image is there, the old 128x128 has no file name, the even older image is there). --Fyren 06:29, 22 October 2005 (EST)


 * I've uploaded Image:Backfire.png again and it seems to work. Some of the other ones that are reported as broken seem to be fine for me. I still have all of the images I uploaded the first time around so if anyone has an authoritative list of these I can re-upload them all. MartinLightbringer 13:37, 2 November 2005 (EST)


 * Very weird. For the links you removed in the article, the image pages are still messed but but the images are showing up in the articles, at least.  --Fyren 15:48, 2 November 2005 (EST)


 * I see that behavior now too (except for Sacrifice which is a new pic), and I'm sure that at the time, all of the image pages, the articles, and the direct links were not working. --Rezyk 17:30, 2 November 2005 (EST)

Search and uppercase
It seems that when searching for a item that contains more than one word (has a space in it or in adress a underscore) you need to have uppercase in the first letter of the word to get it up directly.

For example, searching for "restore condition" gives no direct hit, but "restore Condition" does.


 * That's just how the MediaWiki works. Titles are case sensitive after the first character.  If you're using the wiki's own search (as in, not the Google search in the navbar now), then searching works like how the navbar used to work when you clicked "search," which was different from hitting enter or clicking "go."  If you want to fiddle with the URL, you can add &go=go after the search term to get the "Go" button behavior.  Most searches will redirect to the actual page with it.  Stuff with mixed uppercase and lowercase (like Illusion of Weakness) still won't.  --Fyren 18:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

MIME-type
You've got some typing errors here. My browser tries to download 1 in every 5 pages. [approx] &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.26.122.20 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 19 June 2006 (CDT).


 * What do you mean by "meta-type"? What browser/os are you using? --Theeth (talk)   21:13, 19 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I might be using the wrong term there. Windows XP / Firefox v1.5
 * It's been happening ever since I found out about the site, doesn't happen on any other sites [and wikis] I visit. The browser tries to download every few pages loaded. This would indicate the web server [or the wiki] is indicating the file is a type which should be downloaded.


 * The term I was looking for is MIME type. The type it's reporting [when it tries to get downloaded] is "application/octet-stream".211.26.48.108 04:24, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I usually don't have this issue using WinXP + FF 1.5.0.4. On very rare occasions, I get this problem but it's always when server is having major connection issues. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 04:26, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I get this on my desktop PC, but my laptop is fine. --Jamie [[Image:Jamie.jpg|24px|Here me ROOOARRR!!! (Talk Page)]] 04:27, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I used to get it very often a while, but now I'm surprised if I get it once a day. Using Ubuntu 6.06/Firefox 1.5.0.4 &mdash; Galil  16:55, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * perhaps this is a firefox issue? i see nothing with XPSP2 + Mozilla 1.7.12 --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 17:17, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Haven't had strange clientside issues of any type. Firefox 1.5.0.4 & XPSP2. --Tinarto [[Image:Tinarto-gold-Monk-icon-small.png]] 20:29, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I had this for the first time ever just few seconds ago. I'm not sure if this was me, because I might have pushed a random button or two and caused it. (Using Opera, WinXP SP1) --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 09:08, 22 June 2006 (CDT)


 * No MIME issues on either Debian with Firefox 1.5-1.5.0.2 or on WinXP (SP2) with Firefox 1.5-1.5.0.4. No issues with Lynx, either (*ducks*). &mdash; 130.58 (talk) ( 10:33, 23 June 2006 (CDT) )

Purge?
The bug reports are mainly old and unnecessary. Someone might want to purge the page. -- (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2006 (CST)


 * Slightly off the subject, why is this page name so long? Would GuildWiki:Bugs not do? Or even GuildWiki:Software and technical issues?  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 16:41, 22 November 2006 (CST)


 * The name seems somewhat irrelevant considering it's perma-linked on the left on -every- page and thus easily accessible never requiring you to type out it's longedness. ErkDog 16:47, 22 November 2006 (CST)


 * I'm not arguing that it's a particularly important point, but it bothers me, and that's enough to make it relevant :P  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 20:03, 22 November 2006 (CST)

Log in bug
I got logged on as coran ironclaw when i opened the mainpage... dont even know who that is...  :: S oqed Hozi :: 


 * Are you using a public computer? Maby someone forgot to log out? --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 03:41, 23 November 2006 (CST)


 * nope definately private, am the only one who uses this pc and guess what, the same problem happened just now... same log in too. It logs me in to my normal account as soon as I move to another page on the site, but atm as i get to main page first am logged in a coran ironclaw...  :: S oqed Hozi ::  11:38, 23 November 2006 (CST)


 * I wonder if this might have something to do with caching? I'm not really sure... I would be surprised, but it could be the case!  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 13:52, 23 November 2006 (CST)


 * MW sets vary: cookie on all pages (well, and accept-encoding). Soqed, clear your cookies for gw.gamewikis.org and see if it still happens.  When it did happen, did you happen to look at the preferences page?  --Fyren 20:03, 23 November 2006 (CST)


 * This is a known bug with the MediaWiki software, check the MediaWiki site for more information - also I belive there is a patch for this bug now...


 * If it's known, it's not on MW's Bugzilla or in the release notes. --Fyren 21:53, 23 November 2006 (CST)
 * Stopped happening but now is happening again, this time with artemis faul  :: S oqed Hozi ::  13:57, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 * It's a squid caching issue, you're not really logged in as someone else. The best I can tell is the etags are messed up (which may have been what the Mr. Vague Anonymous was referring to) and upgrading to 1.8 might fix it.  --Fyren 00:19, 30 November 2006 (CST)

Categories
Can someone log out and verify that categories are now paging properly for anonymous users? I think it's fixed, but I want to make sure it works for someone other than me. --Fyren 03:30, 24 November 2006 (CST)


 * Worked fine for me. Great job Fyren! --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 05:24, 24 November 2006 (CST)


 * Nice one Fyren, what was the problem?  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 07:26, 24 November 2006 (CST)


 * Stupid problem leftover from using MW's built in file cache. I suspect it's a MW bug (and that no one actually uses the file cache, heh).  --Fyren 07:42, 24 November 2006 (CST)

Bugs in Guild Wars posted in this article
It's not unusual to see someone adding a Guild Wars bug to this page without realising this page is specifically for GuildWiki bugs. I noticed that a Guild Wars bug was recently removed from this article and the reason for the removal was given in the change comment. It occurred to me that if someone was unaware that this page was for wiki bugs and not game bugs then there's a reasonable chance that they wouldn't understand how to use the history of an article to see what happened to their post.

What I'm asking is should we immediately remove bugs that do not relate to the wiki, or should we add a reply letting the user know that this is not the right place to post game bugs, and only remove the bug after a period of time (say 5 days)? Or equally are there any other possibilities?

Or is this not a problem?  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 08:03, 25 November 2006 (CST)


 * I saw that edit too, I didn't think that normal process was to just remove the post, it was to remove it then point the user to the relevent articles page or talk page. If it was a logged in user I probably would have pointed them to Factions area unlocking on the spot but I didn't and then forgot about it until now :(
 * It's a "newbie" kind of mistake to post an in game issue on this article and I'd prefer a new user's first GuildWiki experience not to post a question then see it just get deleted (yes I know that it was in the edit summary but a new user probably isn't into RC Patrolling). I don't think the comment should stay on this article, but the user should definitely be left a note explaining where they should look. I'm not sure if their comment should manually be moved to the relevant talk page though. --Xasxas256 08:11, 25 November 2006 (CST)
 * I like the way Tetris handled a similar post on this article by moving the comment to the appropriate talk page and leaving the note/link to that article on this page. I think that is how these things should be handled in the future.  After a week or so the links could then be removed from this article.  Just my $0.02.  --Rainith 21:21, 25 November 2006 (CST)


 * That does actually sound like the best idea, Rainith. Is there a template that we use when moving sections, or do we just have to type out an explanation?  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 09:48, 26 November 2006 (CST)
 * There are the and  templates.  These are the ones that I use when I move stuff, I dunno if there are others out there.  --Rainith 21:57, 26 November 2006 (CST)


 * Ah, that's awesome, hehe :) Thanks Rainith!  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 09:06, 27 November 2006 (CST)

Purging
I moved a ton out to the resolved page. Some were resolved. Some were old issues that don't appear to occur anymore. If anyone notices anything that's still happening, move it back. --Fyren 18:46, 13 December 2006 (CST)