User talk:The Myotis

GW:REDIRECT. That's why. (T/C) 00:59, 10 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Hmm..I see a small italicized note at the bottom stating that such methods can be used instead of a redirect, but it neither says that pluralizations should not be redirected, nor does it state that such redirect pages should be deleted. If that is the case (and I am unconvinced that any wiki would establish such a counterproductive policy) then it should be stated clearly. The Myotis 01:05, 10 September 2007 (CDT)
 * See the talk page of GW:REDIRECT. You're right, the policy's wording isn't completely clear, but "When to use redirects" really means "The only times to use redirects". BigAstro 01:25, 10 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Myotis, you did not give a response to my comments (which I have included in a new section below), know that my only intention was purely and simply to keep the wiki clean. I refer to my comment below, still have concerns about this whole issue of if we're going to create articles for all possible pluralize form of articles, the number of articles would be enormous, "warrior" / "warriors", "ranger" / "rangers" and on it would go, where would it end? Anyway, since there appears not to be a specific policy one way or the other, so I'm happy to let it be as it is, just don't hate me would trying to do what to me seemed in the best interest of keeping this wiki running smoothly. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 19:40, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Deleting redirects
Don't you think it is a little silly to delete redirect pages? Obviously you can put an n or s on the end of them when you write them in the article? But what about people who search for these things, isn't it more convenient to have people who search for "Giants" or "Asuras", as many people have a habit of doing, to be directed straight to the article, rather than having to look through a search list. This wiki was not made just for editors, it was made for people looking for information. Nor has any wiki I have been on before made a policy of deleting redirect pages, in fact, most made it a policy to redirect pluralized forms of titles to the main pages. Redirect pages are what make wikis convenient, and when I see a wiki without them, I tend to assume that the wiki lacks good editors. The Myotis 00:30, 10 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok first off, any edits are not directed at you personally, please do not take them as that. The reason for removing pluralize redirects is that there is no need for them (I did actually include some detail in the delete notice of these articles you recreated). You will find this explained in even greater detail in the Editting Guide (refer to the Links section).
 * As for the "silliness" of it, look at it from the other direction, if were going to create articles for all possible pluralize form of articles, the number of articles would be enormous, "warrior" / "warriors", "ranger" / "rangers" and on it would go, where would it end? I did actually try to hunt around for some policy document covering using singular vs plural, but not had any luck just now (if anyone can provide a link, would be helpful).
 * Anyway, the point is, the delete flagging was not aimed at you personally, EVERYONE who can contribute meaningful content is valued here, new-comer or otherwise, was simply a matter of stopping the spread of unnecessary articles before too many more were created. Hope that answers your questions. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 01:03, 10 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Dont be silly, of course we should make "Rangers" redirect to "Ranger" and "Warriors" to "Warrior". It only takes half a line of text, and about three second to make a redirect page. A redirect page is not an article, it is a direct link to an article, and considering that a typical redirect page uses about 13 characters, they cannot really cannot be considered to be a big drain on the systems data space. In any case, it is not as though there is a specific limit on how many articles this wiki is allowed, and since virtually every other wiki that I have ever encountered redirects all pluralization, I do not see why this one cannot. The Myotis 01:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see site policy at Redirect ... it clarifies where this wiki permits redirects.
 * Also, some of your recently created ones are now tagged for deletion. It's often better to fix a mislabelled link in articles rather than creating redirects for the faulty links. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note to clarify ... I have no objection to using redirects for plurrals ... I fully support that, although the policy currently is worded to suggest it's only allowed for stackable items - I believe that it should be for all correctly spelled plural variants (and I believe that was the original intent in the talk pages, it just got sidetracked somewhere). The ones I marked for deletion were two where capitalization was misused - in those cases, capitalizing the first letter of both is appropriate, and should always be used in articles.  And, even without the redirect, the correct article would be found already in the search, so the redirect isn't needed in that case either.  So, those are the two I marked for deletion. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * -*Sigh*....some people want to delete all pluralization redirects, some want to delete all alternative spellings, though nowhere does it say we cannot do either.
 * I swear, this is the most frustrating wiki that I have ever been a part of..The Myotis 03:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)