User talk:Dazra/buildarchive/Build:W/any Prophecies Tanker

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Favoured:
 * 1) Works. But I wonder if we already have a build like this? --Warwulf 18:33, 8 March 2007 (CST)
 * The the only one thats kinda close is this - [Build:W/any_Triple_Chop_PvE_Tank], but its not a real tanker.. only got %22Watch Yourself%21%22 as a defensive skill. and plus, the most important part IMO is that my build is Prophecies Tanker, and the skills in this build intended to be prophecies only skills, which the other build/s don't have.Roadkill15 18:45, 8 March 2007 (CST)
 * 1) Works for Prophecies. Isis In De Nile 22:57, 8 March 2007 (CST)
 * 2) I'm using it and it works well. SpriteSODA 10:43, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * 3) Works fine in its design.81.5.57.85 04:32, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * 4) (your vote here)

Unfavoured:
 * 1) Hundred Blades. It has no purpose. The only time I would generally accept such a junky elite is for building adrenaline; this build, however, has no adrenaline skills to charge (except for possibly Watch Yourself, which charges fast enough through auto-attacking). Yes, I realize that the majority of Prophecies elites suck, but Warrior's Endurance is a better choice for a build so full of energy-based shouts. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|||My Talk]] 03:01, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * the reason for gaining energy is mainly to maintain the 2 stances indefinitely. If we switch to Warrior's Endurance, we lose the whole purpose of having stances to raise ones block rate and defense because Warrior's Endurance is a stance. So if we change Hundred Blades to Warrior's Endurance we lose - great protective stances, a great aggro controll attack skill, and main damage skill.  we gain - nothing that Hundred Blades won't give.Roadkill15 03:14, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * Hundred Blades gives nothing. Period. It wasn't even supposed to be an elite, but they made it one last-minute for no particular reason. It has no additional damage, it has no additional adrenaline gain, it has no purpose whatsoever. You have a point in that adding Warrior's Endurance would take out the possibility of using defensive stances, but honestly, they aren't that good to begin with. Warriors do damage, that's why they exist. If you have a warrior using stances that prevent him from doing damage (in this case, preventing him from using useful skills that cause conditions and deal damage), he is failing. Watch Yourself and Shield's Up is plenty defense for a tank, nothing more is required unless your monks just aren't healing. PvE does not out-damage you; if you have 80 armor and Watch Yourself, nothing is going to one-hit-KO you. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|||My Talk]] 03:41, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * This is still a tank build! and like it or not, there are cases that need a tank, primeraly SF farm, but there are others. Ever heard of Zealous? Thats the main purpose of Hundred Blades, energy maintenance while leaving room for stances. And btw, sry to break your bubble, but in prophecies the damage dealers are necros and eles (mostly).Roadkill15 04:00, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * Read and learn. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|||My Talk]] 09:06, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * What can i say, Eles suck =D but SS FTW! Although, the whole purpose of a tank is to tank out enemies and group them together. Most W and Ele skills cause monsters to run when they AoE, but SS doesn't (which will change in a nerf soon IMO =[ ), plus this article doesn't realy deal with AoE damage and it mainly deals with pvp situations. Single targets were never Ele's strong suits. This build is primarily for SF farm, which a tanker is needed to group enemies and take the hit from the other members. In SF farm the SS and MM are the damage dealers.Roadkill15 12:51, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * 1) tanking in general is stupid, and dosnt work without the item holding glitch. hundred blades just makes this even worse.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 12:56, 11 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 2) Why is this here...? ~Readem

Discussion
I would appritiate any ideas, and any comments, good or bad (though i preffer good =D)Roadkill15 17:09, 8 March 2007 (CST)