User talk:One Three Three Seven/skills with similar icons

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First post
/isyay. -- Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Center tag? RT | Talk  11:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * meh. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

UNO MAS!!!!
One moar till 70! We can do it! --One Three Three Seven 22:24, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm all pooped out. I can't find anymore :O!--[[Image:Holy Sig.jpg]] (talk) 22:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Any? All? -- Shadow crest   02:08, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Orison of Healing.jpg]] + [[Image:Glimmer of Light.jpg]]
 * [[Image:Irresistible Blow.jpg]] + [[Image:Decapitate.jpg]]
 * First one under suppose to look alike. Second just doesnt cut it in my book =/--[[Image:Holy Sig.jpg]] (talk) 02:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

-- Shadow crest   04:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Critical Chop.jpg]] + [[Image:Triple Chop.jpg]]?
 * Nah, those don't look very similar (unless you count all axe pictures)[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae   [Talk]  04:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Glimmer and Orison look pretty different imo, there's pictures of mountains but they're pretty different. Especcially as Heal Area and Heal Other and not in meant to look alike when that is baltently obvious since they're the same but the circle in Heal Area has a bigger area. L' yra V' <font color="Maroon">alo [[Image:LVS.JPG]] 14:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

70!!!!!!
I WIN! --<font color="Black">One Three Three Seven 05:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * And ANet fails! --Gimmethegepgun 06:04, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Very much--[[Image:Holy Sig.jpg]] (talk) 18:29, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Ttly hax --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 71 looks non alikes. --[[Image:Feardrake.JPG]] 21:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * /agree--[[Image:GW_Dismember.jpg|50x19px]]<font color="Black">One Three Three Seven 23:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Another?
I think they look pretty close, at any rate. ---Jamster--- 11:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think so...I mean they look sorta kinda similar but not close enough.--24.31.15.50 21:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * How did you miss this? [[Image:Agonizing Chop.jpg]][[Image:Critical Chop.jpg]][[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Schwarzenegger?
Note the same body, in same position, just different weps and primal has a leopard head.


 * Indeed --Gimmethegepgun 17:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, that first comment was me <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19.px]] (Talk) 17:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Fairness
I really don't think you are being fair to the artists. The page starts out rather accusingly, just be glad theres different skill icons per skill, not just a common icon for each type of heal like many MMOs out there. Besides many are a huge stretch...
 * 5 a bald paragon, thats the only similarity
 * 10 there 2 circles, the pattern and background are no where alike.
 * 12 how many different ways can you draw a person running?
 * 14 all hands holding blades, rather different looking blades
 * 19 blades and background are not even close
 * 22 ones a woman, the others a man with different armor
 * 24 the third one, there swords and not even in the same positions
 * 27 paragons are god like, why is it bad to portray them in such a figure?
 * 30 backbreaker is a girl in gladiator armor, clumsiness isn't close
 * 31 the hammers don't look alike
 * 33 just because it has lines reaching to the bottom?
 * 38 see #14
 * 41 all have different backgrounds with different blades
 * 43 hands not even close
 * 53 signets patterns are alike in RL
 * 54 because they have glowing eyes? ones a animal
 * 60 arms are at different angle and hair differs
 * 66 draw a fireball different looking then that
 * 72 hammers no where close to looking like each other
 * 73 angordons a lot more detailed and awaken the blood came out before it.

Flame me all you want, if you disagree that some are alike thats ok, but it kinda irks me that people have to complain about something that the giver really didn't have to do.--Alari 10:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to flame you about this, in fact, on some of them, you make good points. However, I'm afraid you're looking at the details too much, especially in the sense that we weren't really paying much attention to what kind of weapon/armor is in the icon, but rather the way they are positioned. I will critique each of comments individually:

Okay, finally done! (Nobody better EC me on this, or I'll kill you!) And I highly doubt that this was in any way supposed to be insulting to A-net artists, in fact, they're some of the best. Sometimes it's just fun to look back and see how surprisingly similar some of their skills are. Sorry if you took offense, and feel free to critique me on any of the points I made.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 15:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 5-The only thing that appears different from each other is that one seems to be zoomed in more than the other. They are holding the spear in the exact same way, and it's the same guy.
 * 10-Agree with you on that one.
 * 12-Half-way agree with you there, should be moved to "Meant to look alike" category.
 * 14-Blood Ritual should be out, but the other two's icons are blades being held the exact same way, in the same relative area of the icon, although it may be a slight stretch.
 * 19-Again, too much detail. The fact is, is that they are both holding a blade in the same exact matter, and pointing in the same direction.
 * 22-Regardless of gender or armor, they are both positioned very similarly to each other.
 * 24-Agree with you that Flurry needs to be taken out.
 * 27-In the first two images, the paragon is in the exact same area of the icon and has the exact same posture as each other, only what's below them is different. However, the third one should be taken out.
 * 30-Too much attention to detail. They're both falling forward, and both at the same angle too.
 * 31-Should be taken out, because the hammers aren't really in the same position as each other.
 * 33-Agree with you on this one.
 * 38-It's a bit of a stretch, and I can see where you're coming from, but both are holding them in the same manner.
 * 41-All three are coming from top-right and going to bottem left, although I'm not sure about this one.
 * 43-How many other icons have claws looking like this and are positioned the same?
 * 53-Meant to look alike, IMO.
 * 54-Yeah, pretty much because both have glowing eyes, and the way the glow flows out and up.
 * 60-They're both doing relatively the same thing, and look quite similar actually.
 * 66-Meant to look alike. But flare doesn't really look as much like the others.
 * 72-They're both sticking straight up from the bottom of the screen, and they are at the same angle, and about the same size, too.
 * 73-I would guess because of the way the eyes glow, and the fact that his skin is green. Not too sure about this one.
 * Going to voice my opinion now. If I don't list a number its because I agree with what's been said above or I have no sensible refute.

Alrighty then. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 18:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 5- I fail to even see the spear in NT.
 * 10- I do see four semicircles at the same places on the circles, just more expanded on Mend. But if this one is removed I won't complain.
 * 12- BR is held at the same angle, just flipped to the other direction.
 * 24- Flurry is multiple swords coming in at and angle, just like Barrage and Volley are except with arrows. And if anything should be done to this one its move Barrage/Volley to meant to look alike (without Flurry, leave barrage/volley in both), they're the same skill, Barrage is just an upgraded version.
 * 27- Look at the guy in GftE! and FA. FA is the same guy just zoomed in farther with his right side cut off.
 * 33- No, its because of the face on the icon with the lines coming in/going out of the mouth.
 * 38- Same angle again.
 * 41- Its the angle.
 * 66- Err... look at Fireball, it looks nothing like those.
 * 73- Its irrelevent which came first. Angorodon's is a more detailed face twisted to an angle.
 * Oh, and 78: I see no similarity at all, except they both have lines. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 18:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason I say it starts out accusingly is because of this line "It seems to me that Anet artists are hitting a block." That seems like the writer is actually annoyed that some look alike, to me at least.
 * 33 the faces are nowhere alike and the lines even go otu in different angles
 * 73 the way the page starts makes it seem like author(s) are accusing anet of copying, Awaken came out long before the more detailed one so I think theres no way the skills should be similar. Other then that they are ugly faces. --Alari 19:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It started out with, like, 6 skills...--- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * In 33, it doesn't matter that the faces are nothing alike, it's still a face that's sucking in... something... that is shown by the white lines. And in 73, WHY does it matter that the detailed one came after? They could've very easily based it off of Awaken the Blood --Gimmethegepgun 19:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to comment individually, just remember, it's similar icons, not identical icons. [[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

this one?




huh? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 22:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, also in intended





--<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 22:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * /sigh...







--<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 22:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * TYVM for those images, Lann







--<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 22:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the last 2 groups but the top two are a stretch...Sacraficia 16:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Meant to look alike, imo --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 16:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

What about the hand? Invincible Rogue 04:31, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

lol
who is the poor sucker of number 35 D:?-Rawr raven raven 21:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

SOme of the newer ones should go into the meant to look alike category Id suggest:79,75, and 78 for now ur choice though -- Xilarth The Wise   06:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 78 definitely should stay, they have nowhere near the same effect and yet their icons re extremely similar --Gimmethegepgun 19:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that's the last one.
I just added Shell Shock - Body Shot and I believe we got them all covered. Can we turn this into a proper article now? It's so awesome! Seb2net 22:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just deleted [[Image:Steady Stance.jpg]][[Image:Icy Shackles.jpg]][[Image:Rampage as One.jpg]],  [[Image:Atrophy.jpg]][[Image:Hexer's Vigor.jpg]][[Image:Defile Defenses.jpg]], and [[Image:Conviction.jpg]][[Image:Faithful Intervention.jpg]][[Image:Mystic Regeneration.jpg]] because they don't look alike. Also removed a couple that didn't match their line.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae   <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  00:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The Steady Stance/Icy shackles pair look like a maybe, though, but not Rampage as One. So add the first two in if you wish.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  00:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that last set of 3 you put up should stay, they look quite a bit alike --Gimmethegepgun 00:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe. The first two or first and last by themselves I suppose. Its just the set of all three looks odd.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  00:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Some people just have to attack anet somehow....-- 00:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)