Talk:Secondary professions for a Dervish

Vandalism
ok ,just so you know, I just reverted it, check history, someone deleted necro and added somthing about a f***ing monk

Dervish/mesmer
Considering mesmer is referred to as "a good choice for a secondary profession" for a dervish, it's only sensible that a premade build be made for it.
 * What? &mdash; Skuld 14:25, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 * Let me rephrase: In the "Dervish Mesmer" paragraph, choosing mesmer as your second profession is written down as being "a good choice for a secondary profession". However, there are no premade builds on display for a dervish/mesmer. Perhaps this could be resolved?
 * Well last time i visited the tested builds section there were about 5 tested dervish builds. I think a few more builds need to be vetted before we can have an example of all the professions.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 22:31, 11 December 2006 (CST)

Dervish/ranger
Any IAS works with VoS, and apply poison isn't terribly effective with a dervish especially in PvP and to a lesser extent in PvE. It's the same as W/R with apply poison or A/R which effectiveness is surpassed by other combos. --Lania Elderfire 02:37, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

Understand the AOE of a Scythe. Heket's Rampage combines best with VOS. Solus  02:43, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

VoS is a crappy elite anyway, why make a guide just to make a crappy elite shine the brightest? --Lania Elderfire 02:44, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
 * It's like the notes skuld removed about how some dagger worked really well with Glimmering Mark sins... who cares? Bad elite, bad advice. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 02:46, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

Like on the page for Elementalist secondaries, let's try to not violate GW:1RV. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 02:48, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

What about Symbiosis, everyone?

dagger assassin

 * Daze doesn't need to be extended, if you need more than, say, 8 seconds of daze to get a kill, you're doing something wrong.


 * Golden skull strike is a bad elite compared to temple strike.


 * You miss out on crit strikes and runes/headgear for something unneeded.


 * You will run out of energy fast, or have a shitty combo with something like lead -> skull -> dual.

Now explain why it should be there.

&mdash; Skuld 10:45, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Solus  10:48, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
 * It's a pressure build
 * Read variants of the build
 * Great self heal and an effective IAS
 * Zealous Renewal


 * It is terrible pressure, its a dagger assassin, your self heal is based around autoattacking, zealous renewal sucks. &mdash; Skuld 10:49, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

And that's your opinion. Solus  10:51, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Not so, I present:


 * The cookie-cutter assassin builds
 * A melandru derv
 * gogo! &mdash; Skuld 10:56, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


 * If your only concern was to delete the content regarding the D/A, why remove it all? The build was vetted by GWwiki, if the build is viable, the information is viable. Solus  [[Image:SOJsig.jpg|19px]] 10:58, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


 * I couldn't care less if the queen vetted it. &mdash; Skuld 11:02, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Dear god!!!! What is wrong w/ some of these notes O.o... why even metion a derv w/ apply? Readem (talk *contribs ) 19:39, 8 May 2007 (CDT)


 * I've deleted it 500 times. Satisfied? &mdash; Skuld 19:41, 8 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Ty Skuld, I was just about to do that myself :D. Those notes were retarded in more ways then one. Readem (talk *contribs ) 19:43, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I thought this was here to mention possibilities, not exactly the absolute best build? --Deathwing 20:40, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Lets put mending in. Thats a posibility, and certainly isn't the best build! &mdash; Skuld 13:18, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Sounds like a plan. Maybe not everyone likes running the build they copied from Observer Mode. --Deathwing 13:37, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Maybe not everyone likes running pointless, junky builds? There's a difference between observer-quality and "works well," and an even bigger difference between "works well" and "works in PvE." If you can't respect those differences, kindly refrain from writing secondary profession articles. -138.86.163.139 13:40, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * If they don't want to run a useless junky build, and if they think that is, then they won't run it? Its far from the best, I'll admit, but maybe they prefer to run mending instead of something else. If it "works" why not list it? --Deathwing 13:44, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Because anything works. Go, nay, AFK the campaign...&mdash; Skuld 13:47, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * User:Auron of Neon/PvE <--- -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 13:49, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * So then why not list stuff? If they are starting right off the bat in PvP, their build is the least of their concern. --Deathwing 13:50, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok, why list any random shit, and not the best possible options? &mdash; Skuld 13:52, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Because maybe someone doesn't want to run your best possible build? We could just paste your build on here for them to run. --Deathwing 13:53, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
 * They can run what they want, but im putting out the best stuff. Encouraging people to run subpar shit is retarded. &mdash; Skuld 15:03, 9 May 2007 (CDT)