Guide to defeating Magni the Bison

The following tactics have been suggested to beat the Magni the Bison:

General

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Warrior

 * Works very well against melee and OK against the others though you do need to be a bit more careful and watch your timing and bars. The only opponents where this possibly fails is Mhenlo and Argo. When you get to Magni the Bison the easiest approach is to run around until the bear form wears off then turn and face.  You will be able to take him down well before he tries to re-cast.

Skills Ursan Blessing, Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support ( level 14+ ), Summon Mursaat ( level 14+ ), Deadly Riposte, Riposte, Bonetti's Defense is a working combination that when used correctly will win every time for a warrior with 13 Strength, 11 Tactics and 11 Sword.

Use Summon Mursaat then Assassin, Run in and Attack using defense skills until energy is 10 then use Ursan Blessing and finish the job.

Another build that works is using a reposite build, using skills such as Riposte and Deadly Riposte, allowing you to send damage back to Magni as he hits you, while cutting off actual damage too you (Be careful of his Irrisistible Blow, this will not be blocked, and will knock you down). All you have to do is either run around until Magni's bear form wears off, or intrupt it early.

A smart idea might be to bring consumibles (Grail of Might, Armor of Salvation, Essence of Clarity, Powerstone of Courage) if you are having trouble fighting Magni. (Note, this can be expensive, and will require doing the correct quest and/or getting level three in the Delmidor, Ebon Vanguard, Asura, and Norn reputation tracks)

Is a build which appears to work against everyone except Mhenlo.

With Magni (and some others)shout "You Move Like a Dwarf!" whilst running in with Enraging Charge, this interrupts bear form etc.

With melee opponents start by alternating Riposte and Deadly Riposte and switch to Ursan Blessing to finish them off.

With casters use Ursan Blessing soonest.

Ursan will disable enchantments but Endure Pain and Dolyak Signet will remain active during your bear form so cast them just before switching and then pound away with bear attacks.

Having a pet along is simply for extra damage and the distraction factor so feel free to change this for extra damage buffs or Healing signet / Lions Comfort as applicable.

If you miss with "You Move Like a Dwarf!" first time and have Norn level 5 or greater don't dispair, the recast time is shorter than the duration allowing you to keep Magni crippled long enough to easily keep out of his way until his bear form wears off. If you are lower than 5 run round using Riposte and Deadly Riposte as above or trying to avoid his attacks until bear form runs out --- good luck!.

Ranger
I found that the build

described by arual on the talk page for the quest Round 1: Fight! works well, but it needs more than 3 sets of the traps.

This ones a bit tricky to use:

Pretty much, this works, but might be tricky. If you do it right, its real easy.

First, use "IATS" because thats always the best to use at the beginning. Apply poison, lay Dust Trap, use "You Move Like a Dwarf!" to knock down and cripple him, and shoot Magni with Sloth Hunter's Shot as many times as you can. Keep Shooting him without using any other skills. When he hits the dust trap, he'll be blinded for about 5-12 seconds depending on your Wilderness Survival level. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU DON'T PANIC IF HE HITS YOU. You might think that the he hit you if he's blind so don't think he isn't still blinded. Wait and look at his eyes for the black dots coming out of them. If he really isn't blind anymore, use throw dirt until that wears off.

-NOTE- Beware that Magni can get rid of Blindness prematurely, so I don't recommend counting the seconds.

Now for the tricky bit. If "You Move Like a Dwarf!" has recharged, (Which I doubt) or you haven't used it yet, use it now to buy some time. Now you should start running and use Ursan Blessing. Use Ursan Rage along with Ursan Force to knock him down if you can't with YMLaD. Run, and whenever Ursan Rage recharges, use it. But make sure Magni is right behind you. If he is, by the time Rage actiavates, he will be right next to you and it will knock him down. Keep doing this. When you use Ursan Force, he will run to the opposite side of the arena if you are too far ahead. At this point, use Ursan Strike as much as possible until he comes. Good Luck!

Using Prophicies-Only Skills:

I was finally able to beat the Tournament using only skills from Prophecies and EOTN using the following setup:

Swordsmanship 10 Tactics 9 Expertise 9+3 Wilderness Survival 8+3

Run straight in shouting YMLAD as soon as I get in range. This interrupts his Bear form and saves a lot of pain later on. Then I just used Lightning Reflexes, Riposte, and Deadly Riposte to block most of his attacks while still dealing 50-60 damage. The Poison signet allowed me to degen (This comes in handy during the first 5 rounds) My armor is stacked to absorb loads of elemental damage. This allows me to use Greater Conflagration to lessen the amount of damage I was taking when he hit me. Antidote signet comes in handy for fighting people who use blinding attacks. Finally, use Healing signet as much as possible, when possible try to knock him down before using healing signet.

Necromancer
Skills you move like a dwarf,Life transfer,Life siphon,Faintheartedness,necrosis,and used a pet. Then just stay away,and speed buffs help Birthday cupcakes are ideal,but not needed.

I used charm animal, comfort animal, death nova, animate flesh golem, animate bone minions, vanguard assassin support, whirling defense and taste of death i think not certain on last one

use death nova on your pet and let it die, animate flesh golem res pet, cast death nova on it and let it die again, then animate bone minions and res pet, death nova on them if you can, try to always keep a target a melee range to prevent him coming and attacking you, if he does kite and activate whirling defense. Use the assassin to deal extra damage and keep him at ranger

I used this build:



use 1, 6 , 5 , 2 , 7 , 5 , and what you want: 3 and 4, and repeat from 7 (7,5,3,7,5,4,7,5,3,7,5,4,7,5,2...)

Useful for most of the tournament fighters, but when I fought Ghostly Hero he would just interrupt all the skills rather easily.

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I used the following set to easily farm the tournament:

Blood 16, Curses 12, Norn Rank 5, Ebon Vanguard Rank 5.

Start each round with Signet of Agony and then Arcane Echo before the door even opens. The amazing power of Echoed Assassins should see you through the first six rounds, most fights taking less than ten seconds. Against Magni the most important skill is YMLaD, which will allow you to play keep away and attack with Echoed Angorodons. Grenth's Balance is there for emergencies; if you're feeling brave you can allow Bison to hit you once and then Balance him for a bunch of damage.

Faintheartedness is there so melee chars don't kill off your dual assassins too quickly, and Strip Enchantment is there specifically for Alesia. Before I used this build I couldn't even touch Bison; the night I started with this build I got my cup and crown in less than an hour. The only opponents that give me trouble are Alesia (too much healing, kills assassins quickly) and Gwen (OMG interrupts). -- Monthenor, 10:55 27Sep2007 (CDT)

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Used this build, based on the 55monk. Easy to win, and it always works, no matter the NPC that spawns. Of course you have to use the equipment needed for the 55 necro/monk.

When entering a new round, cast Mending. Approach the enemy and cast Protective Spirit. Cast Spoil Victor on foe and just wait until he/she dies. If necesary, finish foe with Necrosis. Use Healing Breeze to counter quick damage or health degeneration.

Notes:

-Mhenlo will only die using Vampiric Gaze. One single cast of that skill should be enough.

-Use Rend Enchantments on enemies such as dervishes or earth elementals to make them easier to kill.

-Razah doesn't attack so he'll only go down by spamming Necrosis.

-Mesmers are easy, just cast Spoil Victor before they can interrupt you. They`ll go down without having to cast any other spell. Use HB as a cover enchantment if needed.

-For Magni, cast Parasitic Bond, wait until he removes it with Purge Signet, then cast Spoil Victor. Recast it when he uses Purge Signet again.

Mesmer
I used

Right 4 skills are for round 1 to 5, and left 4 skills are for Bison. See also User:GTD for more details.

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I finally beat him with this Me/N build that I modified from one I found in the PvX build site. 12 Death, 9 FC

for most of the tourney contestants, hitting the first 4 skills in a row and spamming Necrosis kills almost all of them very quickly. With Magni, start with YMLAD to interrupt the bear form, then Fetid, Vile and Necrosis. His purge signet cleared the conditions but did a good amount of damage. Kite until the energy is back and repeat. Use Grenth's balance when he gets a few hits in to heal and do damage to him. Ignorance is good if energy permits. --Pooder 10:24, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

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I beat him using the following Me/any build:

Fast Casting: 10+1 Domination: 12+3+1 Inspiration: 8

Getting there gets a problem with some opponents, such as Razah and Gwen, but almost any other opponent is manageable or quite easy with this build. For Bison, just keep him with Ignorance, blinded and with Empathy. Mantra of Inscriptions is used for keeping him blind always. Whenever he hits you, start kiting and heal with Ether Feast until you're full health again. He'll eventually die from the Empathy damage.

Skill code: OQBDAqwDO6ANwIgD8AAqoAoA

User:Bobany

Elementalist
Seems like Air is the way to go for eles. I used Given that you are inflicting a lot of conditions, Necrosis gives good damage every cast. Just keep him blind/weakened and apply cracked armor as often as you can. Javelin is handy for an interrupt.86.131.118.190 14:38, 19 September 2007 (CDT)Spell Mouse

The inclusion of shock or gale is beneficial vs the bison (substitute for javelin). It will give you enough time to re-blind him after purge (or as interrupt of course). 72.11.116.63 11:17, 24 September 2007 (CDT)

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A standard Air build focusing on killing quickly. Before you aggro, cast your Enchantments. AoR is there as a cover, and for self-heal against a random hit from Magni. This build worked against most opponents. For Danika: Wear her out a bit, and when she gets BR'd b Brutus, spike Sheena with L Hammer, L Orb. For Magni: Begin with Enchantments and such. Open your attack chain with Blinding Flash. He will immediately remove it, but that won't matter. Once he is in melee range, your Blinding Flash should be recharged, and thus he won't score a hit. If your Flash is recharged, count to 4 and recast. If you see him casting Purge Signet, or know it's about to come, time a Flash so he had just casted Purge Signet, and is blinded again. If he manages to score a hit, just keep casting, the wounds will heal due to AoR.

Monk
Att spread: 16 Smite, 10 Prot, 10 Divine, 3 Insp. Don't bother trying to fight the monks with this. Most enemies can be easily managed with different tactic here.

Smite 16 Deadly 9 Dagger 9

Against any enemy just use the chain, they should die before using iron palm. For Magni precast Reversal, and cast it once more after Holy Strike, then continue the chain and finish with reversal. Then Kite away and keep casting reversal on recharge. Rinse and repeat.

Assassin
Most important is blind, it helps greatly against Bison and other martial characters. I used By far not a perfect build but was able to kill everyone, Mhenlo can be hard, but if you are fast enough with twisting fangs he to can be beaten. The rest is a question of spamming Sneak attack and keeping your hp regen skills up which will out-heal most damage.

I successfully used: Dagger Mastery 11+2 Critical Strikes 12+1 Earth Prayers 8 Mystic Regeneration, Critical Agility, and Critical Defenses will tear up melee opponents. The only tricky fights are Eve and Vhang. For Bison, keep up Fleeting Stability and use Critical Strikes frequently to keep your energy up.

I did it cleanly (when only Eve and Norgu being impossible and Vhang and Kisai tricky): Dagger Mastery 10+2 Shadow Arts 8+1 Critical Strikes 10+3 Earth Prayers 8

Ritualist
Any spirit-spamming strategy that includes shadowsong will easily defeat bison. Painful bond accelerates the process.

Dervish
Ebon Scythe Snathe is needed.

When he purges his blind Vital Boon, Mystic Regeneration and Faithful Intervention, should keep you alive long enough for you to use sweep (IF you kept track of the purge recharge and didn't just use it) blinding him again. Use Eternal Aura to Keep up Heart of Fury 3 times in a row, a total of 54sec (.: if you survive 6 more seconds u passed it). - Firestorm10 (forgot to login before :P)

Paragon
12 Tactics, 12 Spear Mastery, 10 Leadership. Keep casters Dazed with Awe and feel free to use both knockdown skills; for a better energy management, do not use attack skills (Alesia may be an exception), and they'll go down fast. Even faster will this do with melee fighters, Dervishes and Magni comprised. Immediately knock him down with YMLAD and you'll prevent his Bear Form.

Hmmm, is it me, or including a skill you get from defeating Magni (

Any/Ranger
Lazy mans guide to defeating the bison and anyone with only Mhenlo being a pain the ass.

Usage: Before the fight summon, then target the bison. When the door opens up make your holding your bow (doesn't matter what kind I used a longbow) and keep clicking distracting shot. Transform to ursan. Open up with ursan rage then with strike followed by roar. Keep spamming strike and rage and roar as they become available. He should be dead in about 15-30 secs.

All this build essentially needs is a norn rank of 3 or higher. Otherwise you'll take too long and the bison could become the bear again ^^ or he would simply kill you. A bow and distracting shot. It goes faster if you have marks and a higher norn and asura rank although it's not necessary

Any/Ritualist
Stay in the door, cast 1 and summon 2-6, then cast 7 on your opponent and run back to your spirits. On Magni recast your spirits if possible.

WOW, all i can say is wow, awesome. I used shadow song and offering of spirit instead of vorizun.

Or use Summon Spirits PvE skill to cast Spirits before door opens, then run through door and summon them to you before it closes again.

- vorizun is for energy-less classes ;)