User talk:Dirael

first
spam --Shadowcrest 00:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hooray! I love spam![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae   [Talk]  00:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Rofl --Shadowcrest  00:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * More spam! Lord Belar 00:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And more spam! Cress Arvein(Talk) 00:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hooray![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  00:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Entrea stole my joke ZO-MAH-GAWD. Also, this isn't spam, it's love. [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 02:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

CAN YOU STOP?
GOING OUT OF TOWN? Misfate 02:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Believe me, if it was up to me, I'd barely ever leave. I hate going to west virginia. --Shadowcrest 02:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Why are you going to west virginia? Lord Belar 02:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I own a farm there. And my parents do normal farm things there... sometimes. I think they go just to bug me, because they know I hate it. My mom owned it as a kid. --16:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you own it, sell your farm. Olol. Misfate  20:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You live in Harvest Moon? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally own 1/11th of it. The rest is shared between my sister, my mother, her sister, her brother, and their 6 kids. And until I'm 25, my mother controls my portion, though I still "own" it. And if I sold my portion (when I'm >25), my parents would probably exile me. --Shadowcrest 17:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just remember to carry a blue feather around; you never know when you might need it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 17:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Even west virginia's laws aren't that young. And they even let you marry your cousin there, iirc >.> --Shadowcrest  17:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Blue feather negates law. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 17:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * oic. Guess I'll have to start looking then :P --Shadowcrest  17:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Welcome back, Shadow. I took the liberity of killing myself in mafia. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 18:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

you may be interested
in copying User:Entropy/monobook.js to reduce clutter. It makes the Master Template obsolete. (T/C) 03:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Shadowcrest  16:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You saw
the fake Zelda movie, right? Well at least I think it's fake but it looks cool either way. Lost-Blue 21:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything that's fake needs to be Gannon-Banned. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 21:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

dont forget
To destroy evidence delete the talk page next time :) --- -- (s)talkpage 20:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Tbh I didn't think one would exist >.>
 * K, I'll watch for that next time. --Shadowcrest  20:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

IP
Now don't you forget GW:QDV. ;) -- 21:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

toc
<3 shadow 22:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I was using it to get the link for evidence for the post I left on the admin board. But you're welcome anyway ;) --Shadowcrest  22:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * hehe. ;] [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 18:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

CaunT?!
Blasphemy. It's caund. --- -- (s)talkpage 17:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I fregot my sullpong. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  17:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Gotcha: The WASP book was stolen from Auron at PvX. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 21:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't believe I put that box in and forgot to change it a second later >.>  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Mr.Admin
Wud u liek to lern me wut "mawnobookz" r four? Misfate 23:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you asking me to tell you what monobooks are for/what they do? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, pretty much. Misfate  00:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just go to your monobook.css and put:

body{background:#FF00FF} <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 00:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to burst your bubble, but both my .css and .js are completely copied from other people's. The only reason I have any idea what they do is because of commented out lines. I think the general gist of both of them is customizing GWiki for your own personal preferences. For example, I have links to candidates for banning/deletion on my sidebar, and I don't see the "sign ur comments" message when I click edit on a page. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 00:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oic. Ty mr adminz. u win teh gaem. Misfate  00:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion
On a side note, when facing heated discussions, as an admin, please try to help those involved reach a consensus instead of trying to impose a closure to the conflict. Not every hot discussion is necessarily a bad one, and even if it were, it's best to come up with something than to leave everything as it is. I've grown to admire admins that manage to turn things down without trying to shut them dead, so I hope you can do that too.<strong style="color: black;">reanor 01:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. That ought to take some work, unfortunately; just stopping it is the simplest conclusion my mind arrives at. The problem my mind reaches is that consensus on an issue like that usually isn't going to be reached without one side or the other completely admitting they're wrong, or something absolute like that. Honestly I didn't see you, Alari, or Macros flat-out changing opinion. Thinking about it, just stopping the conversation doesn't accomplish much, other than a temporary halt to any NPA/YAV violations about to commence. Thanks for the suggestion; feedback really helps me learn how I can improve. I'll think about this overnight, and I'd appreciate anything else you have to say on the matter. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 01:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The word consensus precisely refers to a conclusion wich in some way satisfies most factions involved. If someone "wins" it's not consensus. Usually a good idea it's proposing a different approach to the same matter. For example, if we're discussing community issues, coming up with a poll could help. If we end up talking only about abstractions, proposing more concrete cases is a good turn. That kind of thing. As you said, it's easier to call it quit, but it's not as productive as putting some effort into it. Also, avoiding escalation into policy violations is a common sysop job in user conflicts, and should be kept, but we must not forget that sometimes, letting things reach their end is more important than applying preemptive counters. Policy violations have their punishments for a reason, they happen.[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 02:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ereanor sums up my thoughts pretty well. Although this is the second toughest of all an admin's duties, it is also one of the most valuable skills since it is almost universally useful. On the other hand, admins are just as human as the rest of us, and you're still kinda new at that anyways, so I honestly am not too too concerned. No one becomes a master overnight. I am glad that you chose to take this as a learning experience rather than a failure, too - that only reassures me that I made the right choice in promoting you. Keep up that attitude and you'll do just fine. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 04:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Booksuggestion
j00 forgots intwrwub gurlz. + intentional typos --- -- (s)talkpage 15:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * j00 forgot Kalomeli. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * j00 did too, in your userbook, smartytrousers. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * it's giga's box >.> --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * On your page --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * with credits to giga >.> --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * And those credits are also on your page. Go edit it already ;) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * writing a program atm, cba ;)  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The box needs credit to MP, he made it first, I just modded it.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ Talk 23:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * :) --[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 00:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Although, I got the inspiration from Thedarkmarine's post on Entropy's Rate-a-user, so I guess you owe him credit, too.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 00:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah so
On Entropys advice, I'm telling all the admins about Request for rollback. Yeah, go check it out like a good :P &mdash; Warw/Wick 14:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

no contribs
in half an hour, i'm bored. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * i went to school witha faux mohawk and out of everyone only my ids teacher commented and she said "like your hair" lol <font color ="steelblue" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue

HEY!
Join the beauty pagent, sign ups on my talk page!--<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ is hosting a beauty pagent! 23:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Tú sabes que yo soy un nino, sí? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My school has male drill. JOIN.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ is hosting a beauty pagent! 23:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Just realized
that you said you like, you can use it you know'? <font color ="#73C2FB" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 21:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Kool Pic! lol xD --Cookie™ (Talk |Contribs) 09:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

this
Wasnt that Auron? --- -- (s)talkpage 14:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * First I ever saw it was by Eloc on Ryudo's (I think) talk page. Then I wanted to copy it, but was too lazy because of the templates they use. Then, I somehow came to Cursed Angel's page and saw it again, and remember I loved that box. So, Idk. if it's auron's, thanks auron. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Gogo
User:Shadowcrest/Mafia2/11 <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 17:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yess...end my suffering...:P Reveal mafia O_O --Varon Searer 17:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd write it up myself, but I don't know your role. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 18:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Lame. You shoulda just had Progger stab Viper in the back as they watched Varon's body dangle from the tree. Less pages that way.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  04:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That would have been anti-climactic. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 04:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We all knew what was going to happen. Did you even wait between ending day 11 and posting day 12? I wasn't here.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  04:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You could look at the history. And no, I just posted it shortly after. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  04:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

delete confict!
Dude, we don't need to *both* be deleting images at the same time! XD Why did you and Felix Omni suddenly decide to start helping with this, anyway? &mdash;Dr Ishmael 00:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) bored.
 * 2) I feel bad that you're doing it all by yourself :(
 * 3) might as well do something constructive. Always a good option.
 * I've heard that somebody once delete conflicted themselves. I'd love to have that happen to me. Also, have you been deleting the abandoned talk pages? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How are you managing to delete things as fast as you are? I put a link in my sidebar that I click after I delete something. You? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 00:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Tabs > linking imo --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 00:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't follow you. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're using Firefox, just Ctrl+click a bunch of images to open each in its own tab. Then just put your mouse over the "del" link on the first one, then click, Ctrl+Tab, click, Ctrl+Tab, click, etc.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think I have delete-conflicted myself a couple times, now that you mention it. And yes, I've been deleting the talk pages - after Wizardboy posted on my talk, I looked at his delete log and saw where he zinged Armond for not doing that, so I went back through all 1600 that I'd already deleted to make sure I got them all.  Anyway, we should work out a system so we don't conflict - you view the page with offset=500 or something?  Right now I'm going to eat dinner.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 00:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If I can get that to work, will do. And 1600?! O.O --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was clearing out unused images months ago- screenshots too. I just got lazy and stopped for a while. It's easier to delete than it is to delete tag, though. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 01:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Pagent Update
Please post your friend's reply to the question as soon as possible, contestants will be graded on lolz factor, as well as actual answers that might help the world.--<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ is hosting a beauty pagent! 03:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

u = fail
check what links here and stuff before you delete. also, i use that redirect dammit&mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 21:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * GW:S&F is shorter :) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 21:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Woohoo
Welcome back to reality! Whatever you werre doing... --- -- (s)talkpage 11:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was out of town. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * tyvm :) -Jeans 68.231.12.44 17:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yey! I'm a kewl person XD CorrectJeans 22:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Skill box --> User skill box
The following pages in your userspace are using :
 * User:Shadowcrest/bugtagtest
 * User:Shadowcrest/Shadowcrest's apostrophe test

Because they are user-created skills, they should instead be using. Please update them to use the correct template. If they have not been changed in 5 days, they will be changed for you. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 03:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, they were both for testing purposes, and neither could have used User skill box. But I don't need either of them, so np for the time being. --Shadowcrest 16:36, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That was a templated message I posted to everyone who had userpages that used the skill box, I didn't check every one to see if it was a direct usage.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 21:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

epic
I almost just took the signature from the above section and put it back into my prefs. olol. (since they reset) --Shadowcrest 16:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

RC
You can choose which RC you want in your prefs... --- -- (s)talkpage 16:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * where?


 * RC tab perhaps? :P It's atick box labeled "Use Enhanced Recent Changes" --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 17:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That isn't exactly self evident :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  17:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You fail. Big Time. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 17:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Inorite. I missed the easiest kick in kickball today, I wanted to die. :( --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  17:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Plix don't. You're fun to have around :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 17:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Aww, thanks :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  17:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Gragh
Couldnt load (some stupid glitch where it stalls on Connecting). Did you say anything in the past... 3 minutes or something? --- -- (s)talkpage 22:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Goodnight, that's all. I haven't said anything else since I called the epicness of Backfire on my ranger. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Lolk. I'll be off then. Later --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 22:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That guy sold me 2 amber --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Not just a goof
but an All chat spamming, hax0r pwning Monk goof being shouted at. --- -- (s)talkpage 22:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You were as goofy and all-chat spamming as me, even if I did start it a second time :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Doesnt matter :D what matters is that you are more than just a goof. Btw: Herd u r rong --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 22:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Herd u liek mudkips, and I have proof that you do indeed liek them. Btw, I forgot to that I herd you are fat. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Shadowcrest/chat logs

Lag
I have no problems loading pages, but it takes ages to save a page. Anyone else? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorta of same here, occasionally it will jut plain refuse to load a page, or refuse to save a page, but most of the time it works.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ is hosting a beauty pagent! 22:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Same problem. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] - talk 22:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As who, me or giga? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Err, as you. I mess up on indenting every now and again. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] - talk 23:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

RT Gone?
RT Userpage seems to have gone :O --Cookie™ (Talk |Contribs) 13:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's still there for me... --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 13:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have gone, i'm just a ghost, also why are you telling shadowcrest this, instead of me? <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  18:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

*GASP*
I was removed from the cool people list... *cries* --Darunian 18:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes!!
Just out of curiosity, are your userboxes supposed to be all fugly and misaligned / running off the page? --  User:Isk8   (T / C)  14:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * They aren't "supposed" to be, but I was just too lazy to make them all nice and pretty :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. 1112 userbox is a coding nightmare btw.  It refused to work in the table, so I moved it to the bottom. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  User:Isk8   (T / C)  23:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a bunch! They look so pretty now :) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. For some reason, I was annoyed by the misalignment of them, and just felt that I had to adjust them lol.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  User:Isk8   (T / C)  02:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

D:
You and your warnings. 17:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankfully I beat you to the warning, I'd have looked pretty silly otherwise :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

reminder
To myself to compile a list about PanSola for Entropy's bureaucrat opening. Otherwise, I'm off. See ya. --69.255.235.75 01:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * /remind. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 20:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I posted when I was logged out so I'd get the new messages box, and not to mention I told you in game I've already supported Pan's unofficial nomination. Nice steel0rd computer. Epic fail, tbh :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Amber
How much do you still need / need? I was pretty out of it yesterday and wasn't at the computer, but today I should be good to get some AB'ing in and get ya some. --  User:Isk8   (T / C)  14:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * He's ABing for teh Luxons atm... The irony :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 14:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I noes. He told me. He blames you for that too :P -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  User:Isk8   (T / C)  14:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I asked him to ^^ Urf Shakuur ftw --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 14:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I need 24. And the worst part is, May just asked me to come Kurz AB with her and I said no :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  14:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL! The worse worst thing is, "screw shadow, get me amber!" from May on msn :P -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  User:Isk8   (T / C)  14:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oplz, me > may :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  14:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, I already told May 1) I gave her 30k already. 2) I owe you for helping in Uw the other night.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  User:Isk8   (T / C)  14:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nobody gives me 30k :P . Herd prog got 100k for his birthday too, qq.  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  15:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's cause Abel is rich for once in his life. GET BACK ON GWs --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 15:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're late. And at Isk8, I just got the joke referencing the other night. Hah :) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  15:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

you haven't commented
on User:Entropy/bureaucrat. I was expecting a little bit more attention from the general public, so now I'd like at least all the sysops to chime in. After all, those are the people it most directly affects. If you're indifferent then I apologize for spam, and if you're busy I'm sorry for giving more work...nevertheless I desire your comments. (T/C) 05:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
So. You've removed the trivia in Paige Osbourne, with your amazing comment. But then, there's trivias in Isabaeux Navarre, Corwin Luceinne, Balthazar's Spirit, Across the Wall or Armin Saberlin and all of them ar "maybe", "could be", "probably". Why not cut those ones out too? And you're not going to tell me that it's not a HUGE coincidence. And if it is why not say ot's a coincidence on all of them? I don't want to flame you or anything but should be there a policy regarding trivias? Someone cuts the trivia in one place leaving similar ones in all other places, then other person puts it back in, blahblahblah, similar thing here: Gammel might mean something in norvegian and it's been left there, but Dupek the Mighty's one has been cut out, although it means something in polish. So we're allowing this kind of trivia or not? And second thing is - i know it's hard to kkep track on trivia because it's all subjective, but it's here for laughs most of the time, can't people be more laid back about it? It's not like it's doing any harm... --Rotfl Mao 13:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Dupek the Mighty was removed because it was innapropriate and because ANet themselves confirmed it wasn't a reference. The reason I haven't removed them from those pages is because I don't visit every page to check for far-fetched or highly unlikely trivia. If someone wants to add the note on Paige Osbourne back in, they're supposed to put it on the talk page and see if the community agrees that the article should be put in or not. If they agree it should/shouldn't be there, then fine. As far as I know there is no policy on trivia; if you'd like to propose one, you're more than welcome to, we could probably benefit from one. If the trivia was even remotely reasonable (the one on Paige Osbourne wasn't at all), then I'd have no problem leaving it there. When obscure references to totally unrelated things are put in, I generally remove them. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Nominated
You have been nominated! good luck. User:Entropy/bureaucrat 牛 <font face="vivaldi" size="3">Correct 仔 <font face="vivaldi" size="3">Jeans 裤  19:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

April? Close!
I was around a few months before that, actually. . Not that it matters a bunch, just wanted to point that out :p - Auron 20:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I searched for User:Auron one day, and saw it was deleted because that was an actual user. So I special:listusers'ed Auron and saw that and wondered who it was :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

how
Can I get my RaU box to auto-close? I know I could do it by including another show-hide box, but.. is there another way to get it to close? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've tried includeonly tags, to no success. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I know how to do it but cannot locate the page where this was discussed. There is an option you can toggle somewhere in the HTML/MediaWiki/something arcane code which makes ALL showhide boxes automatically start closed. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * All as in every single one or all as in all of them on a given page? I assume since you're using the caps it would mean every single one... if I made a userspace dupe of the auto-close box and use that to make the RaU template that would work, right? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... if you copy the code from the Showhide box, you can add  to the NavContent div, which does make it hidden by default, but the show/hide link still says "hide" initially.  Clicking it once will change it to "show", after which it works normally.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 23:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My page looks strangely empty without the gigantic R-a-U template. Thanks a bunch Ishmael! --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * np ^_^ &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 23:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I found it - MediaWiki:Common.js/NavToggle. This is a much broader and more powerful fix to the problem. But I do not want to touch that because it may have performance/caching issues and because I am not sure everyone wants showhide boxes to start hidden. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I do. My page looks fat. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 16:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me
For not saying anything ingame. I went AWOL due to dinner :) -- - talk 16:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * no worries :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  16:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Combined Skills
I managed to get your combined skills template working from the split skill templates that we do have now, i.e. I copied both Template:Blinding Surge and Template:Blinding Surge (PvP) unmodified to my user space and made four templates to soundly thrash them together (one is a slightly modified version of your skill box test). To give you your combined skill box, all I need to write is  , and of course that simplifies to    once it's in main namespace (but I need to clean it up a bit first before we can do that). For Skill box test any other display function could be substituted, it will get the parameters from the normal skill and the ones from the PvP skill will have pvp_ prepended (e.g. recharge=4 and pvp_recharge=3). And this is the result:

--mendel 20:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice! I'm not sure it'll get used (might opt to keep the pages separate), but good work nevertheless. I personally think it would look better as a single page (what with notes, acquisitions, etc.), so if it is decided to use a single page that will probably be the one we use. Tbh I think I'll go post that at the community portal, if it hasn't been done already. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 20:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I do like the effect that the skill box looks like two overlapping boxes, but the text is so extraordinarily cluttered... don't forget that it would require two (four?) progression charts as well. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When would it need 4 progression tables? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I suppose it would only need 3, since the damage progression is unaffected by pvp status... still pretty cluttered. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The blind and damage are both incorporated into the same progression table on Blinding Surge, still resulting in 2 tables. And the descriptions aren't exceptionally cluttered, imo; at least no more than I would expect them to be. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 20:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine, fine. Three progression rows. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not finished yet; I've still got work to do ensuring that the data gets there so that any rows can be displayed at all. That's the reason I hadn't posted it to the community portal yet, though I can see that you don't want to explode your talk page. *grin*
 * For the descriptions, there could be a div, with a switch for full and concise, so that only one of those is shown. Not sure how we get Guildwiki to remember that, though. mendel 22:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it would require the editing of MediaWiki:Common.js/NavToggle. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it would probably require a separate script, if I understand what Mendel is proposing: it would have a single header div with a "show" link that would toggle the display of two NavContent divs, one for PvE and one for PvP. I'd been considering something like that to solve this issue; guess I'll actually work on it tonight.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 22:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate someone telling me that it was a good guess. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Good guess felix :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes and no, the toggle would be [full] or [concise], so that it shows only full or concise, but for both versions of the skill at the same time. However, the only way to set this up is to use a cookie or some such because following Felix's link (good guess there, Felix!), I find that the the NavFrame doesn't manage to remember it's state, and I'd want Guildwiki to remember the full/concise toggle across all skill pages - otherwise it'd be a pain if I was usually interested in the info that is hidden by default. Hmm. If I do what I plan and make a page that lists all split skills, it would help to have a toggle that switches all of those descriptions on that page (i.e. one click and all skills switch). That's pretty low priority for me at this time, though - gotta get the basic stuff working reliably first. mendel 22:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ty guys :D [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

My opinion on the matter: Eeewww... A lot of cluttering and blah. We reallt need something to toggle Concise/Full so it aint a wall of text anymore O_o""" --- -- (s)talkpage 14:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Cat tree edits
Hiya Shadowcrest. Noticed you made an edit to my Category Tree page (back on Feb 24th). Just wanted to let you know, that page is actually generated by a script reading category names and their hierarchy directly off the wiki, and each time I run that program it will simply overwrite the page with refreshed info (so your edit may get overwritten, and didn't want you thinking was aimed at you in anyway). Also, if you weren't already aware, with the recent wiki software updates, there is now a Special:CategoryTree page which replicates some of what my CatTree page shows (although that won't show multiple parentage as easily or highlight where cyclic references are etc). Cheers, Wolfie (talk|contribs) 02:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's no problem. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 01:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

If that ruuned you day then this is sure to...
<youtube height=200 width=200>yWaWIA3dOF8&feature=related ROFL -- Shadowphoenix  20:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wtf is that :( --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The anti-christ in mini chipmonk form. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LMAO -- Shadowphoenix  20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

<youtube height=200 width=200>Wyc5TSWzJuo LMFAO -- Shadowphoenix  20:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No longer avail, you phail Phoenix -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  I~sk8   (T/C) 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * -- Shadowphoenix  20:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

If that rune is a day, this is salty
I found another Dolyak Prod Staff, HSR 20% and q10. U want? --- -- (s)talkpage  15:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I found a Plated Shield. I'll sell to you for 100k+250 ectos lol. :P --[[Image:Hellbringer newer sig.jpg]]<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="red">t <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="yellow">a <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="green">l <font face="vivaldi" size="3">k 15:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I also have a plated shield. And it's a lot cheaper, lulz. If I'd sell it, that is. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  15:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol. I just found it a while ago. Didn't even know I had it......... --[[Image:Hellbringer newer sig.jpg]]<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="red">t <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="yellow">a <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="green">l <font face="vivaldi" size="3">k 15:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Plated shields are epic-yuck.
 * Am I paying for the second prod staff? If not, my friend wants one. If so, nothx, because I blew 25k the other day (which was slightly less than half of my money). --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 16:57, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Plated shields are okay. They look nice on Paras and Monks imo, if you have fitting equipment. And btw; didn't know you already had one... Must've forgot? :P Anyways, I don't need it, cause I already have one. Pick it up someday if you want --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  17:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd get it now, but my dad is on the good computer, I'm on the one that can barely load the internet. I'll try to get it today. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  17:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if you can't get on Guild Wars, then one of you fix![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  17:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd break it. Bug pan or Ishmael, methinks. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  17:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, it's my job to break shizl. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  17:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

sup runes
Are bad, mirite? Yes No Except in PvE, where it doesn't matter a lot --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 18:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Minor in PvP, Major in PvE imo :D --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  18:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Me never uses anything above minor :P. Unless needed by a farming build such as in the case for SF Sins. :D --[[Image:Hellbringer newer sig.jpg]]<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="red">t <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="yellow">a <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="green">l <font face="vivaldi" size="3">k 18:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No runes, Fox only, Final Destination. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Specialized roles, like MM or some kind of gimmick build, Sup runes are OK.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 sup, 1 major vigor and the rest minors and your good to go, PvE or PvP. Having +30 on your weapon also helps.  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  23:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ipo goes Rune Suicide in PvP. Yaaay. But, in all honesty, with the current skill listing and damage abilities, you need 600+ Health to not explode instantly. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  07:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * hey, just because I'm the annoying 55 you see in RA or AB doesn't mean I go rune suicide :P. With a good build you really don't need more than 400 health.  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  08:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * 55 isn't rune suicide, but just suicide ;) Gaze of Contempt says hi. It depends on your team, rather than you build if you can roll with 500 hp (seriously, if you go with 400, you can just as well frenzyhealsig while you're at it :P ) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  08:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * So that's why my warrior always dies in AB with her 1337 ascalon armour :P. Well having 600 health is ideal but wouldn't you complain if, lets say, your bonder monk didn't have 16 prot or your healer didn't have 16 healing prayers? You need your skills to be as high as possible, but not too high. Also having 16 w/e allows you to take some out of it and invest it in some other attribute while still having said attribute higher than normal. And 400 health isn't all that bad, just gotta make sure your target dies before you do :P.  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  09:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally, I prefer to run 550+ hp in AB, since it's PvE, mixed with RA. Also, I'd hate my Monk for running 16 Heal or Prot, actually. It makes a negligible difference. One second on Guardian, 10 hp heal, bah, not needed if you're any good at all. If you need your skills to be good, run minors so you can use them :> Letting your opponent die before you do, isn't hard. If you can survive him. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  09:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

(Resetting Indent) But that 1 second could be the difference between being the beginning of a spike or a very frustrated assassin leaving you alone after realising that he can't complete his combo on you. Also, spiking is better at higher. Yes you could kill a target at 13 dagger mastery, but chances are you would have to repeat your combo, whereas with 16 dagger mastery the chances of you repeating your chain are slim.  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  09:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Seeing a single attack chain can yield 500 damage and a deep wound, it'll kill. Besides, you usually target players that already have some damage. If I run Assa, I complete my chain once (running 13 Crits/12 Dagger usually), and move on to the next... once those attack skills recharge! Well, that's for PvP. In PvE I run Locust's Fury :P No downtime, ever, and is, imo, a lot stronger than MS/DB. That one second merely means you have to recast a second earlier. And that won't hurt... --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  09:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I run good old MS/DB and I don't go for low health targets. I go full frontal and go for anyone not getting attacked. With 16 Dagger 13 Crit I simply kill and repeat. Kills take 5/6 seconds with no monk, maybe 10 with NPC monk (for AB this is).  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  09:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * With 12 Dagger and 13 Crit I just c-space and everything asplodes... Heck, when my Xandra casts Splinter Wep on me, I score multiple kills. It ends within 2.7 seconds, and has 5 "charges". One attack per 0.54 seconds ftw! :D
 * Well, so much for PvE again. In AB, I generally use Earth Shaker or Flare Spamming Memser with Fire Storm, Lava font and some other random crap. They might not kill fast, but a 7 second Knocklock is so imba, and Lava Font spamming > any Assassin without SoA <3 I don't really like Assassins in AB. They're strong, but still only glass cannons. You touch it, you break it. Not really what I prefer to run ;) Well, to each it's own. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  09:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I mean't 5/6 second kills in AB alone (as my team often wander off to fight the mob). I haven't tried my build in PvE as I've abandoned PvE on my sin. Yes sins are Glass Cannons, but dangerous glass cannons. If you really think about it, assassins are meant for high priority assassinations, which my sin does without bother, it's just the aftermath of the assassination that I have trouble with. If a monk is keeping an annoying ele or mesmer alive, I shadowstep in and spike the monk and they're dead before they realise what's going on. So the higher damage output in the less time, the better the build is.  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  10:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Any semi-competent Monk would catch a 6 second spike, tbh (3 sec spikes are fast, but need a 33 IAS). But, there, you're in luck; AB is full of incompetent Monks. And the Monks with m4d skillz? They ragequit after they get r1 Kurz/Luxon ;) That aside, nothing beats the DwG/AR spike imo. Well over 1200 Lightning damage on a AL 76 target. Half of the dmg is Adjacent Range, the other half In the Area range. But in the end, it's just a matter of preference. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  10:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well talkin about competent monking, I was facing some guild with a silver-trimmed cape that used like 2 e/a shockwave shadowstep builds, a monk and a sin. God knows how the monk got into a silver-trimmed guild but he didn't use return until near the end, and I wiped him out at least 10 times in 1 game. Monking has gone down the drain :(  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  10:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps he was "just Monking", but usually plays Warrior, or Mesmer. I play a bit of everything, and all nothing but mediocre really. But high ranked people specialise. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  12:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Highly doubt it. Had a great build (that I use and I used to monk in HA) but probably didn't know how to use it, point is though not all monks can stop a 5/6 second spike, even one of the "best".  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  13:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That means some of the best suck... even I could stop such a slow spike :P                                 --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]--  (s)talkpage  15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can't stop a 5-6 second spike then you need to remember to turn on your monitor. --Macros 15:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Yay I got noticed, but seriously..
I changed my sig, so no need to keep me on your "hitlist" :P (and btw I always like Vivaldi font and didn't copy off you :P {and it was my first attempt at a sig} ). I'm happy that you noticed though :) )  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  22:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It just made me laugh that when I first started using that sig (which was my first custom sig) that a bunch of other people started to use it too. I'll remove you :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * lol yeh fairly common font (from what i've seen) and thnx  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  23:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It became common after I started using it :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, but at least you know you started something :P  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  23:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't get too conceited. You stole my color![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm on the "hitlist" yay me :P, but now it is only partially in my sig :P. --[[Image:Hellbringer newer sig.jpg]]<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="red">t <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="yellow">a <font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="green">l <font face="vivaldi" size="3">k 23:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * hey I only had 3 letters in vivaldi and I was on it :P  }{ <font face="Pristina" size="3">Ipo™ }{  08:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Create A Hero contest
You are invited to join. Check it out!<strong style="color: black;">reanor 04:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Also, you remember the name of a White Magic card that features some angel guy with a golden mask? It's mask of justice or something.<strong style="color: black;">reanor 04:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Image Deleting
Question, on this one... How do we typically deal with the "redlinks" created from deleting images. I was looking at what links here for the images as you were deleting them, and doesn't appear to apply to images. Any ideas? Because most of the images that you are deleting are linking to articles. -Hope this helps. --   I~sk8   (T/C) 22:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I knew they were, especially the sig images. I was considering uploading a 1x1 white dot over them, or perhaps it would be more prudent to restore the sig images. The copyvios can (should, and will) stay deleted as far as I'm concerned. I was going off of this, but broken images look way uglier than broken pages. I guess for now I'll restore the sigs.. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)