Forum:Guild Wars 2 trailer

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I officially declare the trailer epic
You can quote me on that, I withhold judgment on the game itself though. Discuss.--Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 06:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It almost brings a tear to your eye, don't it? [[Image:RHSig.jpg]] rede | beiträge 09:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I cried my brains out... Why... Why must we wait sooo long! -- F1Sig.png  † F1 ©  Talk  10:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it was certainly kick-ass enough to drag me back onto the Wiki. Oh man, that looks cool. It's still noticeably Guild Wars, but so much more epic.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  03:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Word@Giga... and... High-Tech Asuras :o Now not even Aion can please the waiting time anymore :S *cries* --Birchwooda Treehug 11:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

End of trailer


Whats up with that part on the end of the trailer. A Charr or maybe a Norn bear (Like the Savage Nornbear) that becomes a Destroyer like creature... hmm... --   † F1 ©  Talk  10:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Some sorta Charr-Destroyer hybrid, maybe? [[Image:RHSig.jpg]] rede | beiträge 13:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that one of the Charr Shamans finally got some recognition of there new god Primordus -- F1Sig.png  † F1 ©  Talk  14:04, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Charr Effigy, at least thats what I thought Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  09:27, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I remember reading someone (Regina? I've read too many things, can't remember who said what) saying that the Charr have abandoned their false gods and Shamans, but the Shamans didn't just go away. I'm expecting to see them as some kind of antagonist force driven by Primordus, as TF1 suggested.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought it looked suspiciously like this Charr Effigy. Notice how that one is more 'Destroyer-like' than the ones in game. --Macros 00:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * But Charr Effigy are made of wood (and metal) -- F1Sig.png  † F1 ©  Talk  15:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm still for the return of the Savage Nornbear - now even stronger... Nornbear-T-2000 --Birchwooda Treehug 11:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)



It seems you get your wish Treehuger :O Fond this one in the fast moving stuff on the end. Look at the Tattoos it's Norn! --   † F1 ©  Talk  15:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

The Stone dwarfs really are back

 * Dwarves* and no supprises Random Time  18:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

The Crystal Desert seems to be repopulated and has a dam


Yes, as I recall Palawa Joko dammed the River Elon to create drought and famine in order to take Vabbi with minimal resistance.Kamiya 19:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

It's a Norn Polar Bear now

 * Yeah, that seemed odd for me too, more than one bear form with different buffs perhaps 18:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It was said in an interview that Norn can shapeshift into "beasts," which implies it may not be just the bear, and I'm sooo totally going Snow Leopard! Also, the original intention in the EotN was for them to shift into a wolf, raven and owl also (people even dug up the skill icons for them in the dat file, maybe just owl and wolf, but the owl looked like ORLY owl :P), but the idea was abandoned due to technical problems, and they kept just the bear.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:13, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This bear looks...boring?--74.70.73.106 21:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The Ebon Vanguard Seem to be back

 * lol I think this,probably, shows some of the actual armors in GW2--74.70.73.106 21:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

There are nights and huge lands

 * I loved the night sweep, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Day/Night cycle (similar to EQ2), or it could just be Night Zones. Incidentally, the night and the moon looked beautiful Random Time  18:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think in one of the interviews they did say that GW2 will have day/night cycles, at least they intend to, hence the little "hint" in the trailer. We already have a few perma-night time zones and even outposts in GW1.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Sylvari seems to be Woman only

 * Meh, female characters look better (female Asura looked weird though) Random Time  18:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * RT describing the difference between Sexism and Sexy :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  18:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well...you didn't see any female Charr in that trailer did you? So all male Charr and all female sylvari balances it out. KGipe 02:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please read more lore before you make a fool of yourself again.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ 02:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you know you haven't seen a female Dwarf Charr? Eh? Eh? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:52, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

A huge ass city! In Kryta maybe?

 * I'm guessing Lion's arch for this one, it's asupposidly the "free city of Lion's Arch" now, and fits the description Random <font color="Black">Time  18:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Similar pic, showing the nearby village, too. Anyhow, if it's human, it's not LA. Humans have nothing of the Shiverpeaks and Ascalon (Norn and Charr respectively) anymore, and LA was destroyed when Zhaitan rose along with a whole damn city :P It's probably Divinity's Reach. Source (page 2 linked). --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  18:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is the last human settlement in Ascalon, Ebonhawke Damien Hellchaser 19:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * What? No isn't that a place just like Ascalon City? A place were the Charr are steal the main source of sorrow. Were the lands burn and stuff? A few proud people who fight to the end? -- F1Sig.png <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  20:22, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's divinity's reach, broskis. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ebonhawke looks like http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Ebonhawke.jpg anyways. &mdash; <font color="#7777CC">Balistic


 * It's Divinity's Reach, check this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Divinity%27s_Reach
 * Looks like Minas Tirith to me... [[Image:DoULoomsignature.jpg|62 px]] <font color="Green">Dictator of Undeath  03:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, this pic is obviously Minas Tirith... OK, another example of Anet fantasy...

Charr seem to be in the industrial age now

 * Are you sure it's the Charr? I thought it was an Asuran city. The Charr don't strike me as the kind of race that would care about technological advancement that much. Kamiya 16:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone somewhere at Anet said that the Charr have abandoned their false gods and embraced the technology of war or something along those lines. They're also the ones with guns, so this fits them the most.  Asura have the magical gates and giant floating energy cube thingamabobbers.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Where did this information about guns come from? I've never seen it, and would like to. --Macros 04:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've read a few of the recent post-trailer interviews, and Regina's Journal and some other devs' pages on GWWiki (Emily, Gaile, Joe), so it must've been in one of those. But really, they didn't say much more than I did above and in the Shaman image section about them not being totally gone, hinting that we will run into them and it might not be pleasant judging by the whole Destroyer-esque transformation...  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 05:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, it was Regina's journal. Thank you. --Macros 00:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * scroll down a little--Darkrampage 17:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * They clearly haven't heard of CO2 emissions yet :S I really do like the Charrs (always did) but this... no way. As a conservationist I boycott this... to save the virtual nature!!! --Birchwooda Treehug 11:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

And last but not least: A huge flying thing at the Norn City


Hmm thats a lot of stuff and a lot of Questions... --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  14:43, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

The fierce and awsome Charr


Ah the Fierce Charr. They will be So freaking co.. Hot.. and do you people recognise that sword?
 * I prefer the rifle+ bandoleer in the background.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ 05:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * AH WHAT!? No... Don't say there will be guns? :( -- F1Sig.png <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  08:26, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like a gun to me. Kamiya 19:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks quite a bit like a gun to me, but the proof is that, as stated, he's wearing a bandoleer. With bullets. For a gun. --Gimmethegepgun 20:14, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Regina's journal. She confirms there will be guns. But I don't think they'll be as powerful as moderns guns... think 15th/16th century muskets. --Macros 00:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It is definitely a gun. Notice the "Bullet Chain" across the Charr's body.--Darkrampage 20:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That is the aforementioned bandoleer --Gimmethegepgun 14:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Underwater


This would be awesome. Wonder how long you can hold your breath --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  08:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In one of the magazine interviews I read that they intend to make underwater exploration easy and enjoyable, without having to worry about running out of air all the time. After seeing the swimming naga in the trailer, my guess is that you will ride them underwater just like riding wurms in the Desolation, but that's just my personal guess.  In any case, they implied that you won't have to "hold your breath."  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, you can see the naga in the upper right of this image, too. :) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Naga in Ascalon? (I'm assuming this is Ascalon) Maybe they fled from Usoku? Anyway, the underwater stuff looks promising. N_Segick_Sig.jpg Segick 22:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I would just like to go under water and just need to get back when I run out of air. Thats a lot more realistic -- F1Sig.png <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  15:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * read the paragraph next to the "grassy plain" picture.--Darkrampage 17:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

"Chronomancer" vs Asura


It seems they dug up 2 old Professions --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  15:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

GW2 Guns


More here --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  18:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * WHOA!!!!!!! :O HOLY $***!!!!! MIND BLOWING(for GW)!!!!!! I have never played WoW, but are any of their guns anything like this? And also by the looks of it,the scythes, they have kept Dervishes in GW2 :) --74.70.73.106 20:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, WoW guns are much bigger and "cooler" (They look like cartoons >_>) Check this page for a link to a High end Wow Gun. http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=32756. Anyway, I love the look of that Axe-gun my warrior has always used an Axe so upgrading to a Axe that can shoot bullets! WIN! Kamiya 22:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

A lot seems to be changed


It's not a trailer pic. I fond it on GameSpot --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  15:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Norn Owl Spirit?


Is this a Norn in Owl form? Hmm it maybe be a Eagle form :P --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  15:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * They don't have eagle form, so this must be owl. Iirc, it should be bear, owl, wolf, snow leopard, and 'maybe' raven, but can't remember on that one.  Snow leopard and owl ftw. XD  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

From RT's blog
Incase you missed it, GW2 now has a trailer. It's about 5 mins long, and I'm going to give some opinions. It was mostly concept art, but there were a few awesome things:

Things that looked awesome

 * The day/night sweep, I may speculate that GW2 will have day/night, but I can't be certain that this is the case, anyway - night looks much better than night in EQ2, and in Oblivion, the moon effect was beautiful (<3).
 * Some of the Asuran tech looked immense
 * Water effects and underwater environments are top class
 * Running animations (for what seemed to be charr)
 * Environments in general are top class
 * The music, a redux of the GW:EN overture was probably the best thing about the trailer.

Observations

 * Looks like there won't be a good/evil race split (something to rolplay only, perhaps). Mentions races allying
 * Some of the gameplay footage looked like GW1 footage, nothing too new
 * Keep in mind the final trailer for GW1, which used artistic license up the wazoo.

Comments most welcome <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  18:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

F1's blogy (sort of in the make thingy)
I don't there will be a good/evil split but the Charr still rule over most parts of Ascalon so they won't be that close to them. And ofcourse the Charr them self aren't a really friendly and warm people. So it will be a fun group of "people" :D

Also I think that they keep in mind that most people will chose a different race instead of the humans. As they are killed in the wars. So there will be a lot less humans.

I sure hope that you just can walk because the Charr run is great. But I get crazy if I walk like that forever --  <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  20:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't get it
What exactly is so great about this trailer? I hear everyone else fawning over how ut;s cikk omg omg omg <3~ but I'm not really impressed. Of course the graphics are nice: GW has one of the nicer graphics engines right now, and the one thing they never disappoint on is the art department. I would naturally expect GW2 to be better, and if this is what the gameplay will eventually look like, then yeah it's a bit better. Good job. But...so what? :\ (T/C) 06:47, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * /agree with that, prehaps it's because we're in a desert as far as GW2 news is concerned, and any news is water, which the community flocks around because there's so little. That said, the underwater locations were spectacular. <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  08:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just really excited that my feet aren't going to be glued to the ground anymore. The first thing I'm going to do when I make a character in GW2 is jump into the water and swim away, enjoying every second of it. Kamiya 16:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, next thing you know you'll have to tame the naga to swim like the wurms in the Desolation now (I think that's what's gonna happen, based on the trailer), and it'll be halfway into the game. :P RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If that's right I'll be so pissed I might just kill someone. Kamiya 17:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, in one of the interviews they said that they don't want to make swimming like in some other games where you constantly have to worry about running out of air and feel constrained in what you can do underwater/for how long. This implies that rather than wearing giant bubble heads, we will have some means of transportation underwater to allow for carefree exploration, and still make sense as to why the heck we haven't suffocated yet.  Sulfurous haze immediately comes to mind, and we did see those giant nagas swimming underwater in the trailer.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Sylvari are related to maruera. As long as you continue chewing on one, you'll be able to breath.  05:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Some people do actually enjoy watching such graphics ;) Don't ruin it :( I love the graphics too (the drawn ones) --Birchwooda Treehug 11:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Who
Was the narrator? Cuz I would totally tap that based on voice alone. <3 09:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol... The voice reminds me of Gwen though...idk why. It could be the voice of some main character or just a random voice for narration though -Varon Searer 22:47, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats what I thought Varon. I bet its like Gwen's great^7 grand-daughter... I just hope her name isnt something like Gwendolen. N_Segick_Sig.jpg Segick 03:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

The Dragon
Ok, What if.. Glint's Baby that you save in the Glint's Challenge mission is the dragon or in some way on the side of the dragon. Its possible Trueblade 05:47, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually... no, it's not. Anet has said that these dragons are much more ancient than Glint herself and Kuunavang.  These two have been called "babies" compared to the true Ancient Dragons, who are what we're going to fight in GW2.  They went dormant looong before Glint and Kuuna were born.  And I doubt that Glint would spoil her baby enough that it decides to go uber-evil and try to destroy the world that his mommy worked so hard to save in the Flameseeker Prophecies.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Remember, Glint was the first living creature created by the Gods. The Ancient Dragons went dormant before that point.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ  06:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If anything, the baby might grow up and become an ally of the "good guys," like his mommy. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:31, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok.. New theory: The baby grows up by the time the players enter the game. THEN she tests the players if they are strong enough or part of some prophecy. After that joins the humans and obliterates the undead in some series of missions. And in the final mission she is the reason why the players win cause she deals the final strike! oh Trueblade 16:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Glint's power isn't even close to the ancient dragons, and shes like 3000+ or something, the baby is however long it takes between GW1 and GW2 (isn't that 200 years or something?) old. Dragons take time to age and gain power, but the baby (I don't think we know its gender yet) probably will have some role, just not as big as your making it out to be.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ  19:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright! THE UBERNEW THEORY! She dies by the hand/claw of the other dragons... Happy now? Trueblade 23:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol...lets just stick to finding out once the game comes out. For all we know the baby may not even play a part in the game at all - Varon Searer 01:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Party Pooper. Trueblade 05:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

In case you missed the announcement
The Charr have invented guns and rifles by the time of GW2, and yes, all races can use them. <3 <3 <3 (T/C) 07:26, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Go Charr! I guess they nabbed Nick at some point and tinkered with his insane supplies of explosives. :P RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 07:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * AAAAW thats not really GW like... I hope it doesn't screw the GW vipe up... -- F1Sig.png <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  08:38, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The following things will be the same between GW1 and GW2: 4 Races, THAT'S IT.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ  08:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I do hope we can still use Bows. I don't see why we wouldn't, though.ComradeSanders 14:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a guy in the trailer who looks pretty epic and he's wielding a bow. I just hope anet makes the bow a viable choice and not just some newbie weapon. sacraficia 15:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think It's to bad as long as we don't get sci-fi guns, old blunderbusses are pretty cool

Classes/Races
I'm guessing Sylvari bring things to life of change certain objects and have ancient magic bla, Asura are obsessed with weaponry, Norn transform into different beasts, Charr and human seem to be quite plain compared but may have there own powers. The whole story and design seems pretty complex compared to GW1, like it's 5 different games into one. They said in the interview that you can just go one way and follow a story in your own way, instead of going Mission to mission. I really hope they release this soon :] and not in 2011 like people keep saying.
 * Well I'm more leaning toward there are some bonuses and abilities unique to each race, like the Norn's shifting, but I think that you will pick both a race and class, so you can be a Norn hunter, a Norn Warrior, or a Norn whatever else, but no matter what class you pick you will always be able to shift into animal from and it will provide a buff that would benefit any class you can pick. Kamiya 19:20, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd guess there's probably some shared classes among the races (probably very similar to the 6 Core classes now) but each race probably also has at least 1 unique class (such as Asuran Golemancers or something, which were rather obvious in the trailer) --Gimmethegepgun 20:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Naga
Ok those Nagas are really bugging me. First of all what are they doing in Ascalon? I thought they were in Cantha? They weren't in Ascalon, were they? And they are not the Forgotten, because if you pause it and look, they only have 2 hands and a skinny body, from head to tail. Everything is in game, so it's not like they MADE it up. Right now I can think of two explinations. 1) It's a cutscene, like when they introduced Ascalon in the pre-searing when you first start out. The cutsecene is just showing stuff around Ascalon, and it shows the Nagas. 2) They are a playable race(very, very unlikely). Perhaps we learn how to explore underwater from them. So what do you guys think? Oh and I forgot to mention, remember how all the "Non-Human" races were driven out of Cantha....--74.70.73.106 21:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * [update]: I found this on guildwiki; "According to the Factions manuscripts, the intelligent Naga were in the past a species of merchants and artisians who were at peace with the Humans, until the Jade Wind nearly destroyed the entire race. If not for the Naga priestess Hanasha Coralfin, who united the less than 40 remaining Naga and established a warlike and expansive culture that seeks vengeance on the humans who they blame for their catastrophe."- Because they were driven out of Cantha, they probably hated the humans even more. Well since they no longer live in Cantha, they start a new life in Ascalon? Made a pact with the Charrs, who also hate the humans? Notice the "established a warlike and expansive culture that seeks vengeance on the humans", very (VERY,VERY) much like the Charrs. Now they are threatened by the Dragons?--74.70.73.106 21:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Plural of Charr is charr. Anyway, It's 200 years later, so much can change <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  21:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly my point Randomtime. I want them to be a playable race, but don't think it's going to happen because other than Factions they were never really a significant in the GW world. I don't think even the Tengus and the Centaurs will be playable, and they were more significant than the Nagas in GW. And partially because Anet has not mentioned ANYTHING about the Nagas. But as you said, a lot can happen in 250 yrs.--74.70.73.106 23:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Well Keep in mind that the dragons arose all over the world and communication with Cantha has been cut off. Also according to the setting information cantha has made drastic changes over its treatment of non-human races under the new emperor so if the tengu are applicable then i wouldn't doubt the naga would also be under the gun...and with that they'd have to move along...also just because the naga only appeared in cantha it doesn't mean that the naga don't swim in other waters.