Talk:Ursan Rage

I think that this isn't armor-ignoring damage as the description would have you believe. I've seen it strike for as low as 64 before. Thoughts?-- (Talk) (Contr.) 22:03, 2 September 2007 (CDT)

This skill is definitely not armor ignoring. Think this is only usefull for some tanking because it's a Point Blanck KD, damage isn't that bad, but there are alot of better skillz imo Shai Meliamne 17:01, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
 * It should be stated in the notes that this is not armor-ignoring damage as the description would have you believe, then. Adding.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 14:45, 12 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I've noticed on occasion that the damage from skills like Necrosis was being reduced, Angelic Bond looked to be the culprit in that scenario. I don't keep up with the theories on armor ignoring damage much but it looks like things either don't always function the way we assume they do or that there's a way to reduce that sort of damage. -Gildan Bladeborn 13:28, 18 September 2007 (CDT)

This skill deals a form of elemental damage since it did 16 damage vs a Spectral Vaettir in normalmode (at rank 4 norn).84.41.142.66 17:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It was already known it deal some type of damage, thought to be physical. Those Mist Vaettir have Elem resist. Someone feels like bashing em with this a bit? At first they will activate the Resist, and not too long after they'll use MoC, so if it's Elemental, the only question is, wich element? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I just tested it on Siege Ice Golems in normalmode at rank 4 norn and it did 53 damage so we can safely say it doesn't deal fire damage.S0ndor 18:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I tested it in hard mode in Magus Stones, against Krait, Hylek, and Spiders (rank 9 norn). What I found was that the skill triggers seldom, and only at very close range, less than normal melee range. This didn't even change when I wielded a physical weapon (Totem Axe) with my Nec - I assumed that wielding it instead of a staff would make a difference. Damage, once it worked at all, was fair: from 23 to 90 obviously depending on the enemy's armor. Yet, I would have been more interested in a more extensive knockdown effect. -- 15:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC) --


 * Umm... It is PBAoE eh, so "triggers seldom" or "didnt think"? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 15:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Insignia Note
Can an admin clear up the KD note issue. User:Susan has re-reverted this page breaking GW:1RV. AFAIK no other KD skill as a note about stonefist, and probably shouldn't. Thanks &mdash; Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 15:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)