User talk:Sleeper/Builds/D Mo 130hp Dervish

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 * 1) Awesome build! My other characters hate it b/c they have zero play time now! Any dervish fan out there should try this build, I've scored tons of greens with this build including 3 Nightbringers!!! --Jusdb 11:14, 4 December 2006 (CST)
 * 2) Between the hero flags and the new ai...true solo farming needed this revitilization Lenstrodamus 19:34, 4 December 2006 (CST))
 * 3) Can easily farm pretty much any area w/o enchantment removal/excessive degen with it. [I am allowed to vote on this build, I only posted it, I'm not it's creator. Ecksor is and he can't manage to vote on it :)][[Image:Light of Deliverance.jpg|20px]] Finrod 20:37, 4 December 2006 (CST)
 * 4) I love this build - even when you screw up and die, you only get better with the death penalty! Widow of Darkness 01:35, 5 December 2006 (CST)
 * 5) I've successfully used this build on several bosses, with complete success; the extra health pays off in multiple ways - it really helps against health degeneration, and in a situation when your target is surrounded by a lot of enemies, simply die once and let your HP drop to a normal 55 monk's, only a few hitpoints higher. And dying twice isn't bad, either, as you can simply switch pieces of your armor to compensate, which is extremely easy. However, I'd like to make a small change in the build - instead of Mystic Vigor, it helps having Mirage Cloak when under difficult situations; although your energy regeneration may be affected, in those situations you should be surrounded by a LOT of enemies anyway, so the 50% evasion helps, and the extra damage at the end isn't bad, either. Overall, I like this build a lot! SeriousWorm 15:47, 5 December 2006 (CST)
 * 6) exellent build, i did the marga coast run and got the nightbringer 81.241.222.139 11:35, 6 December 2006 (CST)
 * 7) This build works great. I can finally farm again with little to no aggro scatter.  Nice job. Jimmynice
 * 8) Incredible build. Haven't gotten the hang of it yet but I'm getting better.  A bit expensive to start up (especially for the mods) but hey.. You need money to make money!! 6 out of 5 stars!!! ~(IGN) Amish Punishment
 * 9) Awesome.....Though my dervish isnt very far, I started farming the 4 bosses in Marga Coast, in about 3 runs I went from level 19 to level 20. Only got 1 green(Nightbringer) in about 4 full runs, but it makes ok cash with the chance of greens and runes. --Mwpeck 11:54, 18 December 2006 (CST)
 * 10) This is a godsend.
 * 11) "(favored)" haleluja, something fun to do with dervish... well, aside from general coolness of dervishes 209.234.173.19 02:38, 29 December 2006 (CST) Old Lady Killer
 * 12) This build works CREAZY GOOD. However, getting to Deathbring is a pain now that they moved him (and made him a pop-up)... *Sigh* ah well... can't have everything in life... I LIKE THIS BUILD!!! - 69.143.6.8 16:21, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * 13) Um...wow? Can you say YES!!! Score!? lol Love this build. Great stuff. Forget buying nightfall greens, rofl. - - Antonio  (talk)
 * 14) Well, I was originally inclined to unfavour this one, but spending some more time with it convinced me that it is a good build. However, it most definitely takes some finesse to play it effectively.  On many occasions I'll find enemies I absolutely cannot defeat if their group is of any appreciable number (heket, for instance, seriously own me every time, it seems).  But, then there are also groups of enemies I have little to no trouble with (skale, as long as they don't remove enchants).  However, I seriously disagree with some of the enemies listed on the boss list.  I've tried a handful of them, and had significant problems with more than a few.  Still, good build.  Favoured.--Eternal.quiet 10:11, 8 January 2007 (CST)
 * 15) I really like this build, but I have to say that the list of dos and don'ts of enemies could use some work. Like #14, I get into a lot of trouble around Heket and some of the bosses are seriously tough to reach (due to mobs impossible to solo with this build). --Toxik 16:49, 14 January 2007 (CST)
 * Uh, well.. I got used to the build and got myself like 3 Robah's Axe, 2 Buhon's Prism, 1 The Nightbringer, 1 Chor's Axe, 1 Bubahl's Grasp, and working on a Vahlen's Vow, I love the build, kuskales are a gold mine, aaaand.. Marobeh Sharptail is invincible with this, yet, I love it.
 * 1) To high of health to stay alive in most situations.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 00:00, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Discussion
I eagerly await your comments. Finrod 13:54, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Wait... wouldn't you be required to have a Superior Rune of Scythe Mastery in addition to bring your health down to 105, then have the +25 health chest piece to bring it to 130? Nyc Elite 16:34, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Sorry, forgot to add the part where you need to put 5 superiors on. Fixed :D Finrod 19:01, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Better no?


 * Protection Prayers 9
 * Smiting Prayers 3
 * Scythe Mastery 11 + 3
 * Earth Prayers 9 + 1 + 3
 * Mysticism 6 + 3

cra2sh 23:42, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Huh? Smiting Prayers? I forgot to add the Scythe rune. Damn it >_>. Fixed, aswell; *sigh*. Finrod 19:01, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Very Good build i tried it since its creation. Works on almost all bosses on the lists. Thumbs up!--Smokingkid 10:07, 2 December 2006 (CST)

Awesome build, this is exactly what I was looking for and it works great, especially on the Djinn. Smiting is the left over points, used to boost up Balth Spirit ````

From my eperience with 55ing it seems like this has WAY to high of health to be effective, but i REALLY like the idea of mystic regeneration instead of HB.--Coloneh RIP 17:53, 2 December 2006 (CST)


 * Honestly, 130hp is a little high, but thats the lowest you can get a dervish' health out of the gate. To me, the best thing about this build is that it actually becomes easier to run with DP. I've farmed Djinn in the hidden city with -60DP just goofing around. Of course, after several kills, that DP disappears. Give the build a run, Coloneh, I was surprised at how much fun it is. --Jusdb 09:55, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Coloneh, die once and you'll be on 58 hp. And if you guys enjoy the build so much, please vote favoured so we can get it out of the untested section :) Edit: Coloneh, that edit of yours (of this talk page) isn't really a minor edit. You may wanna read Editing_guide (paragraph 3) to see what does and what doesn't qualify as a minor edit. :) Finrod 17:19, 3 December 2006 (CST)
 * o thanks. i pretty much just click minor edit on everything.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 22:56, 8 December 2006 (CST)

Lol I still don't know how to vote on my own build.


 * Hey, Ecksor. Where it says:


 * Favoured:
 * (your vote here)
 * Instead of (your vote here) type in whatever you feel like. Thumbs up, works like a charm, whatever. Or just plain ~.


 * And to 87.103.50.214: stop making meaningless edits, which can be considered vandalism. Having points in Smiting Prayers does absolutely nothing for you, since you don't use the adrenaline you get and the only thing that it pumps up is adrenaline gain from Balthazar's Spirit. [[Image:Light of Deliverance.jpg|20px]] Finrod 23:44, 3 December 2006 (CST)
 * So I guess the build is ready to be moved to the tested section? [[Image:Light of Deliverance.jpg|20px]] Finrod 18:00, 5 December 2006 (CST)

I really recomend getting radiant armor. The high energy makes things run a lot smoother with dp. A +5 energy scythe helps too. Jimmynice

Djinn Farming

If you try to farm the djinn in the hidden city try to get as few diamond djinn as possible. They really can stop you from killing the others Jimmynice

I also think its important to position your targets so that you are attacking a diamond djinn, but also getting hits in on sapphires and rubies. You aren't just wielding that scythe for looks, haha. I can post some pics if anyone is interested. When I approach a mob, my kill order is: roaring ether, diamond djinn, sapphire djinn, then ruby djinn last. If I'm squaring off agains one sapphire djinn, i find usually just run and pull the next mob. --Jusdb 09:50, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Enchanted Farming

Outside Dunes Of Dispair you can kill Enchanted Swords,Bows,Axes ect. All you do is use the normal 130hp Dervish build if you want a few Monstrous Fangs

Easier to farm when dying

Well i cant farm anything with out 15% Death Penalty. Is this the same with everyone or just me?

Heket

Heket can pretty much own this build, so avoid them. The Stoneaxe Heket and Beast Sworn Heket will interrupt you, and the Blood Cowl Heket in Kourna use Signet of Agony which appears to cut right through PS. (I tried to mop up a remaining Blood Cowl at 30hp and was killed instantly with all my enchants up.)--66.215.48.110 21:46, 14 January 2007 (CST)


 * Using Mirage Cloak can cause you to be protected enough to not die at the hands of the Heket's. It also allows for less interrupts from the Stoneaxe Hekets. - Lord Xivor 13:23, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Weird votes once again
Two of the above users have only few contributions and all of them only on this build. Also, all of the votes were cast during a pretty small time. I'm a bit suspicious. -- (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2006 (CST)

I know I haven't contributed much here, but I've been browsing the site non stop since I got back into guild wars. All I can say is that I didn't have much to comment on until now! haha --Jusdb 21:08, 5 December 2006 (CST)


 * Don't take me too seriously. Actually, I don't care if someone spams with a few fake accounts on some weird build unless its spamming unfavoursed for a great build or there are other contributors fighting against the fakes. In this case either the build is good as many players think so or there are 1-2 people voting on fake accounts. Either way, there is no need to do anything to fight them. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 04:29, 6 December 2006 (CST)


 * Hmph? All right, maybe I'm not the most expert farmer out there, but the build is rather easy and successful for me so I voted Favored.. I'm definitely a real player with a real account - message me if you want further proof. SeriousWorm 10:04, 6 December 2006 (CST)


 * I didn't think you are a sockpuppet. You have a lot of contributions and they are on other parts of th ewiki too. Atleast 2 of the voters had only 1 or 3 contribs and all on this talk page. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 10:37, 6 December 2006 (CST)


 * What's a sockpuppet? Although I have used English extensively during the past 7 years, I have not heard the term. Anyway, thanks for the confidence, I guess. SeriousWorm 12:47, 7 December 2006 (CST)


 * A sockpuppet is an additional account created by an existing user. Joseph (T/C) 04:57, 15 December 2006 (CST)

When I read the section name for this section, I thought I had broken the rules because I voted on the build I posted (but didn't create). Glad to hear I didn't. Putting it in the tested section now :) Finrod 13:57, 6 December 2006 (CST)


 * It's totally fine voting on any build, even your own. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 14:11, 6 December 2006 (CST)
 * 0.o I always thought it wasn't okay to vote on your *own* build. This one isn't *mine* tho, I just posted it. :) [[Image:Light of Deliverance.jpg|20px]] Finrod 16:33, 7 December 2006 (CST)


 * Maby I have outdated info. Check the official policy for confirmation. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 16:46, 7 December 2006 (CST)
 * Where would one find policy? I looked in build, the build portal, the how to submit a build, the rate a build and other places.  I'm tempted to vote for one of my builds, as I believe in it and have gotten great feedback in game for it, but didn't want to do so if it isn't permitted.  --Epinephrine 11:36, 11 December 2006 (CST)


 * Build vetting procedure. Nothing there prevents you from voting on your own build. "Everyone can vote for builds." --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 12:59, 11 December 2006 (CST)

Bosses ?
I find some bosses listed on that page are difficult to farm, some are impossible.
 * Valhen is so surrounded you would need mirage cloak to survive. Even so at some point when you get valhen under 50% of his health mystic regeneration seems to go away, resulting in an instant kill.
 * There's an unavoidable group of 2 necros and a monk (at least) on the road shown to drop Wandalz the angry. They'll mince you.
 * Large groups on the narrow road to Kormab Burning heart in resplendissant Makuun. Necros and Dervishes, and if you try to run them you get into a group of Ethers and djinns.
 * Groups on the roads to Leilon, Tranquil Water, unavoidable because of the narrowness of the corridors.
 * Chor has a monk with him. This build can't deal with monks, tried killing the monk and failed.
 * Some djinns have roaring ethers with them (Churham, etc.). Roaring ethers are hell for this build.

any more ? SmegEd 11:21, 11 December 2006 (CST)


 * The roaring ethers don't affect this build at all as long as you take them out first. Jimmynice


 * Huuuuh.. yeah. It takes 2 mins to take a boss out. A roaring ether is no different. And have you noticed that they always come in groups of three or more ? in some zones theres like 15 of them (Churham's lurking spot). And yes they do affect the build, they drain all the energy away. Sure, you gain it again if you fight them for a bit but you certainly can't run past them. Beating them isn't hard, it's just too long to be useful if you take 30 mins to reach a boss...Unless you just want the item for yourself, but if you want to actually make money out of it, it's not productive. SmegEd 12:22, 12 December 2006 (CST)


 * Monks can be dealt with, but it does take time. You need to just wear them down until they run out of energy. It is very helpful if your scythe hits of the monk's allies to help divert some of that energy.  Roaring ethers are also easy - you just have to pull in some other groups of melee enemies in to help restore your energy. I also use a zealous snathe to help with energy management. Widow of Darkness 13:11, 12 December 2006 (CST)


 * Actually, all of the bosses are easy. For Vahlen, just die once or twice (58 and 22 hp, respectively). And just reapply Mystic Regeneration? I don't think I've made it clear enough - you have to refresh all your enchantments all the time. In regards to Wandalz, I did say bring heroes+henchies to clear the mobs *up to* the boss, then flag them off-radar (til their names are greyed out in the party window). And don't run from the Necros/Dervishes, they can be killed with this build. So what if the groups on the roads to Leilon are unavoidable?         . I tried making a vid of a near-full Ahdhashim run, but my comp is too slow, sadly enough. And so what if Chor has a monk with him? You not being able to           onk simply means you lack knowledge of basic game mechanisms. If you lure all the melee so they're next to the monk (close enough for you to hit monk + mob + mob), he can't keep the 3 of them healed, so he eventually dies because he doesn't heal himself often enough. And Roaring Ethers are easy to kill, especially if there are other mobs around to fuel your E via EB/BS. And there is no such thing as a boss accompanied by 15 Ethers on the list of bosses that can be soloed. I don't think there are 15 ethers in one non-separable group anywhere, for that matter. And this build isn't a runner, you're not supposed to run past mobs, and you can solo all the mobs on the way to the bosses in the list. And if you don't like farming say.. Shakor or Leilon for their greens because there are *shock horror* Roaring Ethers on the way, don't. Nobody's gonna force you. Keep farming Bubahl + Chor till you make enough money to buy Leilon's Vow/Shakor's Spear. And yes, a Zealous Snathe helps out alot - remember to switch it OOC tho. Edit: Would you like pictures of me killing every boss from the list solo? And maybe a pic of my U map to show you how I got to him - solo? None of your claims are founded. Not even one of them.[[Image:Light of Deliverance.jpg|20px]] Finrod 01:08, 13 December 2006 (CST)

Hey, peace man (or should I say elf...), don't jump down my throat ^^. Only trying to be constructive. I'm not saying your build is crap, it just seemed some of the bosses were hard/near impossible to farm.
 * All my claims ARE founded, I'm sorry to say. I have tried every boss I have quoted, to make sure it wasn't written there erroniously. Therefore,when you said Djinns of all kind, I tried Churham for his hadny 15/-1 wand. However Churham IS surrounded by LOADS of Ethers, though he's probably the only one. True, they can all be killed individually but it's so slow ! I guess i'm not patient enough :P I'm too used to farming Minotaurs at Elona Reach and getting 10k/hour in hard cash.
 * I still can't get how you kill Valhen, the +10 regen often gets DPS'ed out if I don't pull exactly right. Anyway, there's other methods to farm him, let's leave him out of the debate.
 * As for Chor and his monk, I had forgotten Dervishes hit three people at the same time (shame on me !). With that in consideration, it's true it's much easier.
 * Thanks for the Zealous snathe/+30HP proposal, it's true it helps a lot when you're at -30% and you've only got 19 energy left. I was indeed wondering how one could manage in such a situation.
 * I might be short-sighted but I can't see where on the page it said that Wandalz is farmed with the bots until you get to him... although I had heard later on people saying so.

Anyways. Thanks a lot for all those precisions ! Remember, YOU know the build far better than us. It's normal if we don't figure out every rope and string for the build right first time ! We ain't all high arcanists of the metagame/pro farmers/expert build technicians. We're all n00bs until we learn. And I have just learnt... SmegEd 13:43, 14 December 2006 (CST)

1.) I did not create this build. 2.) I'm not a high arcanist of the metagame (I only RA and Heroway in HA when I feel like fame farming) 3.) I'm nowhere near being a pro farmer/expert build technician. I did not create the build, I simply posted it on the wiki for the maker, because he didn't know how and I had the spare time to do it. And all the bosses on the list are soloable. Again, I can provide screenshots, if you wish. And I edited the Wandalz entry. Finrod 11:57, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Just wondering how the hell do you kill Neoli the Contagious he just strips your enchantment right away...then you're dead >_> --Ledviper 19:54, 24 December 2006 (CST)

HEY, in regards to Vahlen being unkillable, yeah, they curse you then use rending sweep,and with about 5 dervish enemies, you have no enchantments, i'd recommend removing vahlen, unless someone has found a way around rending sweep? 00:25, 21 January 2007 (CST) Old Lady Killer

Avatar of Balthazar variant
I'm still not sure on whether to put that back in or not. On the one hand, you don't need the armor boost, because you can run this build just fine with minimum-AL armor. Your damage will be significantly lower, but the holy damage that comes with AoB means double damage against undead, which is nice. The speed boost is nice too, if you plan on farming a boss that you can run straight for, but takes a while to get to. Also, you have problems if there are healers around. So i'm not sure. Stick it in the Variants section, or not? Finrod 01:15, 13 December 2006 (CST)

Wind Prayers Variant
I've found it quite useful to reduce Smiting Prayers from 3 to 0 and Prot Prayers from 9 to 8. This frees enough points to raise Wind Prayers from 0+3 to 5+3. Then replace Mystic Vigor or, to play it safe, Eremite's Attack with Rending Aura, which makes many fights possible that were not possible before, especially Boss fights versus Assassins and Dervishes, or if priests are around. --RolandOfGilead 08:08, 18 December 2006 (CST)

I don't know about that.. I'd rather have PS last a wee bit longer. It's hard enough to keep it up sometimes, anyways.. (Hidden City, anyone?). Rending Aura may be nice, but it's not necessary. Btw, I'm interested in testing something out. I wanna find out if Rending Aura removes Rending Aura. If anyone wants to test that, my IGN is Angel of Arnor, but I won't be on 'til saturday, or so. :S Finrod 11:59, 18 December 2006 (CST)


 * It means reducing PS from 19 to 18 seconds. Not a big deal imho, and the points in Smiting Prayers are useless anyway. What you get in exchange is removal of all pesky Monk enchantments, like Healing breeze or an enemy PS or whatnot, as well as enemy healing Dervish enchantments. Also, you can fight more types of mobs, like Enchanted Brambles which would blind you with Ebon Dust Aura.


 * BTW, why shouldn't Rending Aura remove a Rending Aura on the attacker? If both Rending Auras are on top, then whoever melee-attacks first loses it. Note that Rending Aura does not end after you get hit. --RolandOfGilead 12:53, 18 December 2006 (CST)


 * Rending Aura would be VERY useful, where it applies. Skyreal 03:03, 29 December 2006 (CST)

5 runes?
What is the 5th rune? all I can find is scythe, earth, wind, and mysticism. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.148.16.134 (contribs).


 * There are only 4 different runes, but you can use any of them twice or more. The idea is not to get the attribute points from all of them, but to get the health penalties to get your health really low. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 10:04, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Admiral Chiggen?
Could this build be used to farm admiral chiggen outside Yohlon Haven? Link To The Future 11:46, 21 December 2006 (CST)

A note about this build and bosses
There are some bosses (eg. Marobeh Sharptail in particular) that i have tried to farm without success because of regen or certain skills. Marobeh Sharptail uses Victorious Sweep which gives her health back when she hit you and because i have not been able to deal out enough damage to her, she doesnt die - she cant kill me but i cant kill her. Otherwise this build is damn good for farming. Bloody Key - 2:50pm - 23/12/06

You can kill that boss it just takes some time. You need to aggro a group and have only the boss to hit so they give you energy. Also its best to die twice so you can more easily survive. Jimmynice

When you guys started doin it what kind of scythe did u start out with, because i dont know where to get one to put the upgrades on it.

To kill Marobeh, you need a customized 15^50 scythe, preferably with either a sundering or vampiric scythe snathe. Otherwise, you just can't do enough damage.

Vahlen the Silent is unfarmable because of Rending Sweep, and some backup hexers in the background. --Cowfix 15:55, 27 January 2007 (CST)

He's hard, but possible.

Vahlen isn't hard just have a scythe +30hp die twice and keep mystic regen and protective spirt up at all times.

Why farm Vahlen the hard way when you can get into a wurm and swallow him whole?

Suggested Scythes
When you guys started doin it what kind of scythe did u start out with, because i dont know where to get one to put the upgrades on it.

I use a max +5 energy Sundering enchanting scythe. It works pretty well but you should also bring a +30 health scythe. It's from a collector. The sundering and enchanting arent that expensive if you don't buy the max versions of them. Jimmynice

Sundering is nice, but I find a max vampiric scythe snathe more effective, especially against squishy bosses (AP has less effect on lower AL). For the inscription, +5 energy is good in most cases, but a 15^50 inscription is absolutely necessary for certain bosses, like Marobeh Sharptail.

Is a Suli's scythe alrite i got it but relly is it ok.

I use the pre-release scythe and its doin all right84.196.140.52

I use a Zealous scythe with an "I Have The Power" inscription (+5 energy) and a +20% enchantment mod, and because I use that, I can drop essence bond and use another attack skill. There is no need for Essence Bond AND Balthazar's Spirit both in this build. - Lord Xivor 04:41, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Mountain Troll Farming
This build works pretty well for mountain troll farming in talus chute (NW of drok). It can also be used to kill the avicara on the way to the cave (die once before). I was able to farm all troll exept the ranger boss and to farm tundra giants too (add fleeting stability instead of eremite). Darkdawn 10:29, 2 January 2007 (CST)

Hydra Farming
Use Fleeting Stability instead of Eremite's Attack to counter the Hydra knockdowns. Six at one time is no problem as long as you're hitting. SuperStretch

Update
i updated the boss section, so that they are now order and easier to find, i hope u like it :Poris rhy 12:03, 3 January 2007 (CST)

help!
I've tried it and ive tried to kill some easy bosses but i can't do it, so can someone offer me advice or even show or help me please.
 * Always keep all enchantments on, die once before because it's easier at 58 hp, avoid mesmer and necro. Monk and some paragon can be long to kill.Darkdawn 23:08, 5 January 2007 (CST)

CANT GET GREENS!!!!
ive soloed all the bosses on marga coast and only got one green from the one on the beach ive soloed Chor, the assassin boss, and the monk boss. wats wrong?

You're even lucky to get one, i thought the drop rate was around 33 percent. Onovase

I farmed all the Bosses, and got 8 Greenz, gg, only thing... they are worthless :) Dragosan
 * The monk boss's is worth a bit.-Kumdori 12:50, 8 February 2007 (CST)

Almost every boss here has a worthless green...i farmed 4 greens (2x Chor's axe and 2x Lunto's pincers) in 30 mins lol 2 days farming them atm, not anotherone :'( (and buhbals scythe sux-Ebon!:/ )

Finally after getting this build together(i use mhedi's vow atm), i solo'd the dervish boss outside of Nundu Bay(forgot name now :( starts with a b though...) and got his green scythe twice in a row ^^

tip
When you die 3 times, wear an armor piece with a major rune on it , or use a +30 hp scythe. That's the easiest way to farm hard bosses like Zelnehlun Fastfoot and Vahlen the Silent. To farm zeneluhn, start from Rilohn Refuge (outpost) and run past the ntouka with yor normal armor (without superior runes) you'll make it trough the mob with at least 100 hp (out of 505). Then wear your 130hp armor and kill the kournans (there shouldn't be any seers or opressors), because they can hinder the ressurect. Then you can start farming :).

Takes to long to kill.
I saw my friend using this build. It took him a while to kill a simple boss. I think it was Chor the Bladed. He also got his butt whooped. no offence but if ur friend cant kill chor than he is very inexperienced or he is using the wrong stuff or something because chor is the easiest ive proly killed him like 30 times alrdy

Where r some good places to farm
i need some sugestions i just keep farming the bugs in marga coast n outside yohlon haven any other good farming places in the nightfall campaign?

Scroll down and look at all soloable bosses. -- B a  r  r  a  g  e

i kno those dude but i mean like farming monsters not just bosses cuz ive just been killing the monsters off marga coast and yohlon haven

Eshim Mindclouder
It is quite easy to farm Eshim with this build but you do need 15% dp. One problem is that sometimes a group with a monk gets aggroed but in that case just walk away from them and eventually they will leave but Eshim's group will stay. I have done this here:



--Cool name 13:01, 22 January 2007 (CST)Cool Name

Lyssa's Assault
I still haven't had the chance to test this build yet; but looking at the skill bar and the emphasis on HAVING to have a zealous scythe, wouldn't Lyssa's Assault be a fairly resonable skill to bring along? At the 14 scythe mastery you're running, it is a free attack and should be giving back 1 energy everytime you use it. Just a thought... — Jyro X 13:21, 22 January 2007 (CST)


 * I haven't been able to test this build yet, but my head officer uses it. I think he does replace Eremite's Attack with Lyssa's Assault on occasion. &mdash; Gares 13:33, 22 January 2007 (CST)


 * There really isnt a huge need to use a zealous scythe. The balth spirit and essence bond work well enough as long as you have about 4 thing attacking you.  Lyssa's Assault really wouldent help that much that much, its low damage and low energy return. Jimmynice


 * I dont't use a zealous scythe and i can do these fine without any problems. I would also like to say that it is poosible to solo any (well almost) enemy with no energy problems. You can usually not use scythe attacks but you should have enough to keep if not all then at least Protective Spirit and Mystic Regeneration up at all times. --Cool name 11:11, 23 January 2007 (CST)


 * Yep. I use Dwayna's Grace to farm and I never have energy issues.  I have full Radiant armor, and occasionally as I farm, when i get down to only 1-2 guys left, I drop essence bond and leave just Balthazar's Spirit up.  Works fine for me.  I just make sure I keep a small buffer of energy available for Protective Spirit when using attack skills towards the end of the guys I am killing. - Lord Xivor 13:21, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

The FoW
Ive been farming the Shadow Army in the FoW with this build for a while and it is relitively easy. Just go for the groups without Mesmers and if there is a mesmer take it out quickly and watch your enchantments. Its is also better to go for the monks first as others rely on it. - Steve

The Underworld
can this farm uw Solo? if a 55can tank uw and slowly kill with soj+zealots can this kill UW Foes and tank? Barrett 08:29, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Jerneh Nightbringer
Here's a good strategy for killing Nightbringer: Make your way from the Crossroads to the group of Heket just west of the Res Shrine that is just southwest of where Jerneh spawns. As long as you are reasonably close to the res shrine you can let them kill you. This will make you spawn at that res shrine. Now go take out the two groups of skale just southwest of where Jerneh spawns (northeast of the res shrine), after defeating them you will have gotten rid of some of your dp, this is not a problem. Now go trigger Nightbringer's spawn, and let them kill you. You will respawn at the same res shrine just southwest of him with around 19% dp which means your health will be somewhere in the 30's, which makes it very easy to take out Nightbringer. The only problems I run into with this strategy is when I accidently agro the heket nearby Nightbringer, as they can interrupt the vital skills, though it is pretty easy to lure Nightbringer away from the Heket.Thor79 02:59, 28 January 2007 (CST)

^^ i swear that EXACT setup is in my video haha...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IEAxMDDTto

Another strategy is to avoid having to die by using Mirage Cloak to cause them to miss on their attacks. Nightbringer is very easy to farm that way without having to resort to dying. - Lord Xivor 13:18, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Lieutenant Kayin
I noticed there arent any Ritualist bosses added to this list, so I thought I should contribute what I know. Lieutenant Kayin of Arjok Ward is a channeling Ritualist that drops Kayin's Focus. I farmed one for personal use, so I know what I'm talking about. Method is simple as pie: Start out at Sunspear Sanctuary, run down to Arjok Ward (go right as soon as you spawn, then go SE past Balthazar's fortress, but not close enough to aggro the spotters)..oh and beware the mandragors that surface on your way down. Once you get to Arjok Ward, go to the immediate right to activate the rez shrine (believe me it helps). Then, go into the field (avoid the groups, very easy to do). She'll be accompanied by Kournan Scribes so expect meteor to interrupt some of your skills. I simply keep spamming PS & MR. Sorry, no screen shots as I thought you'd already be aware of it ;p Gabe 15:26, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Lian, Dragon's Petal
Go for the ritualist first, he heals, its better to die once and get 66/88 hp (I have 88, I have to use a +30 hp scythe). Dieing twice and getting 16 hp is also very very good! 16 hp, they take off 1 each hit and with all your heals, I dont see how you can die :P

Another tip is to try and get the three warriors south of Lian to aggro you, this will give you +25 hp for each and more energy for spamming those enchants.

Suhli, uh what?
Honestly, iv tried time and again, how? Let alone the oppresors make it hard, but without substituting a skill to get rid of his cripple, which makes you do like 2 dmg, even then his Pious Renewal might stop it... AGH! >_< Someone please explain it more, or mark it as unfarmable.
 * Take some henchmen and clear out his mob and flag them off the radar, then take Suli and run to the beetles next to him and kill him that way, but the beetles can interrupt you a lot, so cast everything as soon as they recharge. --Cowfix 19:27, 21 February 2007 (CST)

Vahlen the Silent
This is the easiest way to kill vahlen with this build. Use avatar of Balthazar instead of reapers; victorious sweep, eremites attack, and mystic vigor in the other 3 slots. (you dont need mystic vigor) Die twice, equip +24-30 hp scythe after. Right when you spawn after last death cast the last two maintained enchants. When you are just outside the aggro circle cast avatar of balthazar, then wait around 4 seconds before casting the first two enchantments. Then run in, aggro vahlen, and start smashing the hell out of him with HOLY DAMAGE (he will take double damage this way). - Don't be casting enchantments when you see choking gas on the left side, this will interrupt and screw you over. With this build you can easily kill vahlen in about 3-4 minutes total time.
 * Rending Sweep, if it takes off your mystic regeneration or protective spirit, will nearly instantly get you killed. Anyone got a screenshot or a video or something to show them killing him? The only way I've gotten close is to use henchmen to kill all of his mob except for some warriors, then flag them off the screen, but it takes a long time. --Cowfix 19:25, 21 February 2007 (CST)

^^ Sorry you're retarded. Vahlen has got to be one of the easiest. i have a vid as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IEAxMDDTto

Zelnehlun -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9EOfVLyoiY

I have also successfully farmed Vehlon without ever having my enchantments stripped using this exact build unmodified. Unfortunately, you have to die first 2 times in order to do it, and I think any build that requires you to spend time dying before it can be used is an inferior build. I have not been able to find a suitable skill combination that can be used with 130hp as of yet like I have for the other bosses I farm with it. Usually, Shielding Hands and Mirage Cloak are useful for me to farm most at 130hp, but I have died here trying. - Lord Xivor 04:47, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

In response to dying to Vehlon the Silent: Rending Sweep requires that you be hexed in order for an enchantment to be lost. The Thought Leeches in the group will cast :Ignorance if you are carrying any signets (Signet of Capture). If you're farming for items or experience, just remove all your signets. If you're trying to cap Vow of Silence, you'll need to rework your build to have hex removal/prevention.

Tested/Testing (RB)
Trying this build out today, exceptionally cheap alternative to a 55hp monk. Confirming you can solo Buhbal Icehands (A note should be put in that you don't have to worry about the monk termites around him because they *only* bother healing their own species apparently). I intend to test the build against the following tonight or tomorrow:

1) Sharptooth (for Sharptooth shield) - Already confirmed on wiki but yeah! 2) Sergeant Benwah (For Benwah's Recurve Bow) - Haven't accessed Turai's Procession yet. 3) Commander Wahli (For Wahli's Blade) - Ditto Barbarous shore. 4) Acolyte of Dwayna - Have heard that soloing Dwayna is quite possible even if, it's a long drawn out fight.

If anyone's already tried this or those four are impossible to solo with the 130hp dervish then feel free to say, saves hassle then ^_^; -(RV;)

ive tried commander wahli... couldnt even get to the guy cuz there are enchant removers... i even tried with my other 130hp derv friend.

bringer?
Caould you farm Dabineh Deathbringer?

No. Far too much Degen and enchantment removal. Solus  05:16, 23 February 2007 (CST)

i could farm deathbringer u just have to have more enchants on u to counter the degens (mystic vigot, mirage cloak)


 * Degen is not the problem with him. It is the enchantment removal.  I have never gotten this build to work, or any variation of it to work on Deathbringer because of how easily he can strip enchantments. - Lord Xivor 04:43, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Fahralon the Zealous?
Is it possible to farm Fahralon the Zealous with this build so you can get Fahralon's Scythe?

If you can kill all the torment creatures around him, sure. But I don't think this build can kill quickly enough to counter Call to the Torment with the enchant removal/interrupts from the stupid mesmers around.

Sword Farming
I've been using this build to farm dead swords in the Shattered Ravines. Works EXCELLENT

new boss
Hi, just killed Admiral Kantoh , Kournan Ele Boss in Jahai Bluffs, He's not on your list so i thought i'd write this... He's a pain to get to. Gotta pass through about 60 Kournans. And you will die alot if you dont take fleeting stability.

Thanx Ulrich Baal P.S: I got screen shots of it if u want them message me in game..

Build Usage Problems
I'm having macho problems with this build. I'm farming in The Floodplain of Mahnkelon, BTW.

Anyways, I find myself spontaneously dying with all my enchants up. It takes me like 10 minutes to kill a group of Heket, so I run up to a group of 3 Beast Sword Heket and die in like 5 seconds, with every enchant on me. I can't even get to the bosses!

So, I tried farming in Marga Coast. I make it past the first groups of insects, and, after 30 mins of 130'ing my way through, I make it to Admiral Chiggen. Okay, some more Skale pop up, no biggie, I can take em. Admiral Chiggen's group comes over too...All enchants up, BAM I'm dead.

Finally, I often find myself without energy by the time Mystic Regen and Prot Spirit are recharged and need recasting. I'm using Radiant Insignias.

Please help?S ora267  22:53, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * I would say just use a different build. this one is a gimmick and dosnt work nearly as well as any other solo dervish build.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 23:23, 10 March 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. A guildie of mine told me it would be best to move on if all it was doing was frustrating me. - -S ora267 [[Image:Spiteful_Spirit.jpg|19px]] 09:57, 11 March 2007 (CDT)

first of all admiral chiggen is not on the list of farmable bosses. if u go farming in the floodplain dont bother fighting anyone except the bosses. just run to the boss using prot spirit to take only 13 dmg and mystic regen to heal. the pink pansy

I find no problem at all in farming the bosses in the Floodplain of Mahnkelon. I made one skill change to my build, and that is it, and I do can farm fine out there. I use Mirage Cloak now, instead of having 3 attack skills. My build consists of Balthazar's Spirit, Essence Bond, Protective Spirit, Mystic Regeneration, Mirage Cloak, Mystic Vigor, Reaper's Sweep, Mystic Sweep. With Mirage Cloak, I have not had to die before farming Nightbringer either. - Lord Xivor 13:16, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Ok for Mahenkelon wat i do is to get to the boss, i run thru the the normal heket, around the corsairs btw. Then i agrro the beast sworn guys at the river and then let them kill me. I die and i conveneitely get rezzed at the nearby shrine up ahead with 58 health :) ok now i kill the two mobs of scales and stuff b4 jerneh, then get jerneh to pop up and kill him w/o agrroin the patrol of beast sworn nearby. also the reason beast sworn can annihilate you, is cuz they spam disputing lunge which will rip you to peices along with 33% faster attack rate and super DPS rate.

Credit
I removed the credit attributed to the author of the page which had been added under the notes section since credit isn't allowed on the build page. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs)

UW Applications
ok guys, i think this build can take the bladed aataxes at the beggining of UW and maybe some other creatures. all i did was swap out reaper's sweep for vow of silence. i put on my enchants as normal. Then i agrro the aataxes WITH vow of silence on. if any nightmares pop, just annihilate them with mystic and ermite (they only have 100 health). then fight the groups of ataxes 3 AT A TIME. make sure u maintain mystic vigor, u need it cuz they like to use riposte, deadly riposte over n over. ive actually gotten a few ectos doing this :). its veyr tricky tho but i kno it can be done. let me kno if there are any other creatures that can be farmed witht his in UW Dark Samus 20:48, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Note on bladed aatxes solo...
I found it much easier to solo these guys if you replace reaper's sweep with sand shards, they do flee back and forth, but the hit rate is much more constant, and it is possible to solo 3 at a time using it. Match 21:24, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

FoW Applications
This build can take the Shadow Army in FoW. You will end up having no elite but u dont need one. Replace Reaper's Sweep and Mystic Vigor with Shielding Hands and Shield of Absorption to reduce all dmg to 0. make sure prot spirit is b4 either of these spells so the game will calculate the dmg in the right order.Dark Samus 23:45, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Shatter enchantments? Solus  06:25, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

I dont get greens any more
When i fist try the build, worked perfectly, I was allways geting greens ( at least 1 per day ), now i cant get 1 single green drop, i farmed all place were the nightbringer is and no greens have droped, this started at 5 days ago, now i dont know what i shuld do.

Can somebody help me plz ?

Drop rates are completely, I sometimes think the same way, but then get 2 drops in 2 trips. It's basically luck. Solus  06:24, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

i dont think its luck, if it was luck, i would get at lest 1 green drop, but for 5 days i got no greens,and i allways go farm, i usually farm 5 diferent bosses daily, 3 times each

Pure luck. Solus  07:14, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

are you sure is not that anti-farming thing ?

You will recieve a message if your hit by it. Solus  07:28, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

i had hints off, so i dont know if is that

i'm starting to tink it's not luck, today i farmed 3 times all marga's coast bosses that are able to farm whit this build, and i didn't get any green !!! What the hell is happening ??? I cant get greens, and whitout greens i cant get any money :( :(

Pretty sure its the drop rate depreciation update, may be rumor though. Readem (talk *contribs ) 02:07, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Armor of Sanctity

 * At 8+ Earth Prayers, this makes you literally invincible to all damage. Maybe then you could bring Wounding Strike for condition spreading, eh? Look kinda like this:

I love it, how bout you? -- Xeones  12:12, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Why not take Veil of Thorns instead of a scythe attack? That way you don't need to worry about spreading conditions, although interrupts might be an issue. --Phydeaux 12:16, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Soo like this???

-- Xeones  12:28, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Looks like it'd work... I'll give it a shot later today. --Phydeaux 13:58, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


 * thanks xD -- Xeones [[image:Xeones.jpg]] 16:20, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

why not just take off the chest?Caramel Ni 16:02, 7 April 2007 (CDT)


 * 1 less superior rune... -- Xeones [[image:Xeones.jpg]] 08:04, 9 April 2007 (CDT)