Talk:Urgoz's Warren (mission)

Tired first report
Got into the mission, here is what I remember + some pics:


 * Party size is 12.
 * The complete mission is abound with pop-ups. At least half of all mobs we encountered were of that class.

Right at the start, you are faced with a spawn of vampires. All of these are low level (10). However half possess a skill that instantly kills once they get into touch range, the others a skill that drains all energy.

After that you see the first "area":

Full of lvl 28 maddened dredge. While fighting them weakness is on the complete party.

After that you reach an area where the complete party has -15 (!) health degen. Both effect are caused by a monster that can be killed to end the effect. Good pulling is the key.

Then you reach a room where you have to fight archers that are on a platform. It is a must to bring a form of teleport skill, since you need to open the gate to leave this area from up there without any path leading up (there is a teleport that will bring you down again).

After this you reach this beautiful bridge:



You get attacked while on the bridge, while the fire flowers shoot at you from the sides.

After the bridge (and I might be forgetting something here), you come to this area, with tons of pop-ups and walls that raise from the ground.



Walls:



The area effect is "all spells cause exhaustion".

After this you come to an area with lots of thorn wolves pop-ups. Those are high level assassins that did 300+ damage per hit to my monk. My party ultimatively died here (after having lost 4 people and the prot monk).

Skills that might be very worth bringing along:

--Xeeron 17:27, 16 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Spiteful Spirit
 * Barrage
 * Teleport (definitly needed)
 * Heal Party
 * Protective Spirit
 * Slowdowns (pin down, traps)
 * Anti melee (wards, blinding)
 * Rebirth


 * PS: I should add my thanks to the alliance (who's name I cant read) who is controlling House zu Helzer atm for letting everyone into the mission for free while I was there. And the one person in our group that had already done the mission proved invaluable as well =) --Xeeron 17:39, 16 May 2006 (CDT)


 * Sounds like my Soul Twisting/Shelter ritualist build would be godly there. For protection that is. [[Image:Chuiu Me Icon.png]] (T/C) 08:42, 19 May 2006 (CDT)


 * Assassin shadowsteps require you to be able to walk to the destination though right? So only necro teleports would be useful? - 09:11, 19 May 2006 (CDT)


 * According to the people in my party last time I went, there are places where the spawning mobs can be avoided by traveling in groups of three or less at a time. The area they said this about is a tad further than you reached. I would have tested this by running headlong in behind a group of three but ... I wasn't about to get the group killed and be unable to group again. Plus I wanted to get to the end, which I didn't do. The next part had at least 50 wardens and that exhastion effect, and I was the only monk at that time.


 * A bit after the UW looking room, which is right after a bridge and the tunnel underneath it, there is a set of two bridges, with two or three wurms around them. the first time I've been there, a LOT of wardens spawned. the second, we went 3 by 3, and non spawned. after those bridges there was a big space with lots of mobs to the right, left and center. one of the main problems there was that it would be fatal to run back on the bridge. Foo 06:56, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

To add a bit more, this is the UW looking room:



this is us on the first brige of the two, when those two giant groups of wardens spawned:



and this is the end of the second bridge, when we passed it 3 by 3:



All thos mobs were guarding a door with a wurm in front of it. it seemed to be a part of a structure, and not just a door to another corridor. I could guess this was already pretty close to that damn Urgoz. [one of our party members asked a wize question, who is urgoz, and why are we trying to kill him?]. Foo 07:07, 23 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Urgoz is an innocent creature defending his home against all the humans who are trying to kill him for his greens. Just like the Avicara tengu who are getting massacred by the humans for their elite skills!!!!! -13:40, 23 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Well, if they only learned how to share!! (But I'm still looking for a real answer) Foo 14:24, 23 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Actualy, This might clue us on a possible answer. Foo 15:31, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

"A necromancer with a sacrifice skill combined with another party member with Rebirth or "
There is more than one way to kill yourself... Vampiric weapons, Illusion of Weakness (with a full set of superior runes), etc. - 09:40, 24 May 2006 (CDT)


 * Vampiric weapons are too slow. Feel free to add Illusion of Weakness if you like, though you have to keep in mind that a necromancer with a sacrifice skill can usually do that with a skill that is part of his build. To alter the build just to bring a dying skill is a disadvantage. In our party, it's simply the bipper. --Karlos 09:32, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Actually my beef was with the wording a week ago which had it as a requirement. I think I'm fine with the current wording. (-: - 11:34, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

Bridge Room
Is there seriously a portal that is supposed to let you up there? The article mentions it, but I only remember the arrival teleport location being on the ground level. There was no way up there without dying, unless my team and I were just too blind to see it. Verde 01:25, 1 June 2006 (CDT)


 * There is a portal (which works only on going back). It is not illogical to assume that it may have been designed to take people up as well. --Karlos 09:32, 1 June 2006 (CDT)