Talk:Common scams/Item scams

deleting/weakening commendations scam?
I would like to see the commendations scam removed or weakened to a note. Buying items from new players for less than their minimum value may not be the most sporting conduct, but in my view, scamming involves providing some false information to potential buyers/sellers to raise their interest, which is clearly not the case here. If we put commendations here then we must as well include "Buying black dye for 1k", "buying VALUABLE_MOD for 100g", "buying bone dragon pet for 5k" etc. etc.. This is obviously not practical but just as valid because it aims at the ignorance of players regarding item prices. Reminding players to always check prices before trading would be more useful than classifying all these as scams. Additionally, the list's relevance suffers with every non-scam entry. If nobody objects, I'm going to change the commendations entry accordingly. RolandOfGilead 12:13, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

I agree with Roland there....Buying (for cheap) and selling (for more) is just everyday normal stuff... I will often Sit in LA and buy a IDS for 20-25k..then turn around and sell it for 35k+... There is no "scam" in this..just using common sense...Deadlyknights 15:35, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

A scam still involves using ignorance against a player to cheat them out of money, and while trading a weapon is definately not a scam (because the merchant price is a few hundred gold) credits are indeed worth 200 gold. So yet, it is a scam.Anooneemiss 00:45, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Don't think that buying these for a reasonable amount that is lower than the collector's will give you is automatically a scam. Many people (including myself) rush through some areas so only pick up a few of the items, Especially the two later areas of Nightfall where there arent many quests that reward them. As the collectors often require many of the item to trade it in for a decent amount (5 for Sup Salvages, 7 for gems) many people merely sell them for alittle less than their worth to get rid of them. - Former Ruling 19:49, 5 December 2006 (CST)


 * The reason it is important to keep the buying for less than collectors will give you scam listed is that it is so common. It is rare for anyone to try to buy dyes for less than vendors will pay (except in pre-searing, where there are no dye traders).  It is quite common for people to try to buy quest reward items for less than collectors will pay.  Go to Kodash Bazaar and more often than not, within 60 seconds there will be an offer to buy trade contracts for less than 2/3 of what vendors pay.  Indeed, for some items, scammers have posted their lowball prices so often that some players think that's the fair market value of the item.
 * It's one thing to offer slightly less than vendors pay. It's entirely another to offer half of what vendors pay.  And it's particularly egregious for the newbie island ones where the optimal collector trade item takes only one battle commendation or monastery credit.  Quizzical 05:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Unidentified weapons & armor
I don't see selling gold, unidentified items like armor or weapons as a scam. It's silly to think so. In most cases the person who buys an unidentified object, is buying it to identify it in order to get the title of Wisdom.


 * That was posted before the intro of titles. &mdash; Skuld 17:36, 1 January 2007 (CST)

Cities of Ascalon
The item is for the invincimonk build, but since other classes use it now (necro and dervish, for example) the edit is fine. Cress Arvein 20:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He was saying the note implied only monks could do the quest, which is untrue and which is why he deleted it. --Shadowcrest 20:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Black Dye in Presearing Ascalon
Should the scam of buying Black Dye from new players in Presearing Ascalon for 1 gold be added? Invincible Rogue 04:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

YES. Well, I didn't sell mine for 1 gold, but... I did kinda sell it for 10 gold. Being the happy little noob I was back then I never really figured there were any people preying on noobs... lol... --204.248.58.136 02:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)