GuildWiki talk:Request assistance/Archive 2

This is essentially User questions. But, it's not linked anywhere besides the community portal talk. Also, most people who seem to contact Tanaric should actually be using a talk page somewhere, or at least user questions. --Fyren 12:00, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I changed the sidebar link to point to this page&mdash;I actually didn't realize User questions still existed. I can merge one into the other. However, I think that "Contact an administrator" will get more notice than "User questions," but I don't really care which way they're merged. &mdash;Tanaric 12:11, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * While less support is a bad thing, more notice might also be. Maybe at the top of whatever this ends up being we should have a huge link to a FAQ about stuff.  People shouldn't be coming here (like they were to your talk page) to ask report vandalism, things about pets, things about builds, or whatever.  A FAQ could point them towards using the right talk page.  --Fyren 12:15, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

I was thinking bigger. Like: READ THE FAQ FIRST, NITWITS. --Fyren 13:52, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Your comment implies to me that you expected me to remove the blink bit, so... I did. :) &mdash;Tanaric 15:30, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * lol, I actually burst out laughing when this page loaded. Awesome.  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 16:32, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

Add these! &mdash; Skuld 13:54, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

Everything Tanaric has moved to this page is exactly what I'm saying shouldn't be things people bring to an admin. An admin bans, deletes, protects, and in rare cases, settles disputes between users. I suggest the sidebar link to the questions page instead. Have both this page and the questions page prominently link to the FAQ. In the FAQ, let there be a question about what should be brought to an admin's attention that could not be handled by the question or bug page. Off the top of my head, there's actually nothing that should really be directed at an admin. If you want something deleted, use the template. If you want something protected, take it up on the talk. If you want someone banned... calm down and discuss the problem with the user. If you're getting into a full-fledged argument with someone, it'll probably get noticed and wouldn't have to be brought to anyone's attention. If you forget your password, go complain on http://forums.gamewikis.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=9&page=1 to get me shell access since an admin can't help.

Encouraging users to go to an admin by having that link is, worst of all, anti-wiki in my view. We're just users with relatively insignificant powers, as we're supposed to be bound by policy that's forged by everyone. --Fyren 15:52, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I pretty much agree with you Fyren, but I do think that "User questions" was/is a poor name. "Contact an administrator" is an active sentence and is exactly what most users with general questions will want to do, whether admins are the right people or not.


 * So while I agree in essence I don't necessarily agree that we should change the name of this page, or revert back to "user questions". I wouldn't be opposed to another name, like "Ask for help", or something like that.  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 16:36, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I agree that it might be slightly antiwiki... but it's also more fansite than an "ask for help" page. Most of our users are used to traditional fansites, not wikis. I'd argue that most don't even realize the difference -- the emails I get about content all ask for permission to post, or they wonder how to submit something for admin review. That said, I could live with "Ask for help" instead&mdash;the only problem is that the navbox will look silly with "Help" right above "Ask for help." &mdash;&mdash;Tanaric 10:55, 27 September 2006 (CDT)