Talk:Equipment template format

Has anyone succeeded in decoding the Equipment Templates? As i see here http://gwshack.us/forums_small/viewtopic.php?t=366 some attempts have been made but not too great yet. --Phoenix 06:33, 8 November 2006 (CST)

Legal issues
I just wanted to point you all towards this thread on the GWGuru forums. The guy mailed GW support about creating a tool to edit template files and was told that it is considered a violation of the TOS and EULA to create, edit, modify, or display the template files used by GW by anything other than the GW client, and a bannable offense. -- 08:13, 24 November 2006 (CST)
 * Where do you see anything besides a random person spouting crap? --Fyren 09:51, 24 November 2006 (CST)


 * If doing this is illegal then surely so is gwShack with its skill template creator. I've not seen anyone complaing about that one yet. Also http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Skill_Template_format should go if Equipments one goes.
 * Has anyone read the EULA that says we can't do this? I've looked and can't see anything regarding templates or files that are created by GW. (Such as Skill Templates, Equipment Templates or even screen shots.
 * WNxTilly 09:51, 24 November 2006 (CST)


 * Don't get me wrong, I'm not NCsoft's advocate here. I'm merely pointing out that somebody (Theosebes) asked NCsoft and was clearly told that it is not permitted. Quote from the thread:
 * "I wrote support because sections 3 and 7 of the EULA can be interpreted either way. Support let me know in no uncertain terms that the template files are part of the GW client, and cannot be edited (manually or otherwise), displayed by an outside program, or created by anything except the GW client."
 * Section 3 of the User Agreement says:
 * "3. LICENSE TO USE [...] You may not [...] (b) modify, adapt, reverse engineer or decompile the Software, or otherwise attempt to derive source code from the Software ..."
 * The key point is: According to NCsoft's understanding, templates are part of the "Software", and decyphering them can be seen as "reverse engineer / decompile". Creating 3rd party tools (web-based or downloadable EXE) may also violate clause 7.
 * If there is any doubt about it, we should at least ask ANet for confirmation. That gwshack is doing it too means nothing. They are not even an official fansite, and I doubt that they asked for permission, or that it even occured to them that what they do may be against the ToU/EULA. --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 10:27, 24 November 2006 (CST)

Ok, I guess we will have to see. I suggest then that if the page gets removed then you would also have to remove the skill template page as well as that is basically the same thread as the one I wrote but equipment instead of skills. All I can say is if these things were so condifential then why are they so easy to access? Why make them text files instead of anything with a different extension? Seems very odd to me. If people are allowed to share these files then they should at least have some better deciding than what they chose. WNxTilly 10:32, 24 November 2006 (CST)