Talk:Undead

Im thinking that maybe this page should be moved to Category:Undead so that the list of known undead at the bottom doesnt have to be maintained, or rather, is easier to maintain via adding category tags to existing monster stubs/articles. At the least the list should be removed. similarly, i think other monster groups such as devourers should be moved to their category equivalents. - Crusty 14:40 15 Aug 2005 (GMT +12:00)
 * That would make sense. I'd say go ahead and do it. --Talrath Stormcrush 14:48, 15 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * The list should be removed, the text shouldn't. The devourers (the ones that have articles, at least) are already in the category.  --Fyren 15:39, 15 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Remove the list keep the article. Then use Category:Undead to group the monsters and reference Category:Undead in this article. --Karlos 16:09, 15 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Is there an echo in here? --Fyren 16:49, 15 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Is there an echo in here? here? here? --Fyren :)

Are these Undead?
I'm puzzled if the various ghost/deamon creatures in the game (for example Nightmares, Phantoms, Smoke Phantoms, Wraiths, etc.) are undead. Undead per definition of the game, in that for example they take double damage from holy damage. I will try to verify tonight, at least for some of them. --Tetris L 23:24, 26 October 2005 (EST)


 * I think Wraiths will take double damage, Nightmares won't, Smoke Phantoms SHOULD, Phatoms won't. Just my educated guess. --Karlos 00:11, 27 October 2005 (EST)

Sub-Species Crusade
Can we please, finally, make a concentrated effort to pin down the sub-categories of Undead (and Ghosts, along with it)??!! We've been discussing this again and again, without a final conclusion yet. See: Talk:Grasping Ghoul, Talk:Skeleton, Talk:Ghost, and several others.

Like I suggested in Talk:Grasping Ghoul, I think we should test each and every creature that is possibly undead or a ghost, according to the following criteria:


 * 1) Name, appearance, general behaviour
 * 2) Does it take increased damage from holy damage and deathbane?
 * 3) What Collectable Drops, Salvage Items and Crafting materials does it drop?
 * 4) Is it a fleshy creature? Is it immune against Rotting Flesh or any of the following conditions: Bleeding, Poison, Disease?
 * 5) Does it leave a corpse that can be exploited?
 * 6) How does it react to Edge of Extinction relative to other undead/ghost creatures?

With the result of these tests we should set up a matrix and then start grouping them. Who wants to help me with this task? -- 07:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)