Talk:Attuned Was Songkai

The Related Skills bar only held energizing wind. That seems weird, since elemental attunements seem to fit more, and there are other similar skills to energizing wind, like divine spirit, that might also be added. I added attunements, but this probably needs more work to make it useful. 24.19.163.245 13:02, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Nice Chart!!! Useful...^_^

Is there a chart somewhere showing spell cost like the one for Expertise? It's not hard to work out, but I'm not sure how it rounds, and I want to know where the break points are for casting 5, 10 and 15 energy spells. Or can someone tell me how rounding works in Guild Wars so I can work it out for myself. --arth 10:39, 17 December 2006 (CST)

Umm was there a useful chart here per the above, and if so, where is it now? --CKaz 14:32, 28 December 2006 (CST)

table
It was edited out with "...the hell? I think you put this on the wrong page." I'm not sure why, as it was definitely useful.

no energy cost?
At 17 Spawning Power, Attuned Was Songkai(-56%) + Renewing Memories(-39%) = -95% energy cost.

5 * .95 = -4.75 energy. 5 - 4.75 = .25. Round that and it will equal 0 energy.

-X H K

Nope. Percentages are stacked multiplicatively. You apply first Songkai's percentage (as it says, "of the base cost," then renewing memories' percentage: 5 * .44 = 2.2, then 2.2 * .61 = 1.342.  Elementalists' Dual Attunement builds work because all of their attunement spells say specifically "of the base cost."  Renewing Memories doesn't operate on the base coast, rather on the current cost, all other effects having been factored in.  --Carmine 14:31, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Normally yes, but not in this case. After testing in GToB, Attuned first and Renewing second (16 SP on both) has Guided Weapon (base cost 15) costing 2 energy, Weapon of Warding (base cost 10) costing 1 and Vengeful Weapon (base cost 5) costing 1. With Renewing first and Attuned second, the same results are achieved. These values are what you would get after a 90% cost reduction (direct addition of the 2 cost reduction skills), not what you would get by multiplication, which would grant a 70% cost reduction in at least one order. And after a greater number of trials to get one of them up to 17 SP, yes, 5en spells do go to 0en. --Khoross 09:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Boon of Creation?
Why is Boon of Creation in the related skills portion? It doesn't lower energy cost, like the other skills Loyal Traitor 23:22, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 * I tend to agree, but in that case, e-attune would have to be removed as well. --&#91;riVen] 19:22, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * So be it? -Loyal Traitor 16:26, 21 February 2007 (CST)

hehehe flarespam ftw. 12:48, 3 April 2007 (CDT)