User talk:Dirael/Mafia/4

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Oh, right. Thoughtful did get killed. Sorry, I copied+pasted from day3 :P --Shadowcrest  23:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * But what about Light of Dwayna? Thought ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 23:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently the Inventor ended the night before the mafia could act. So was goldenmama inactive or what? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec)What about it? It's not a rez, it's just a skill with Light in the name. The inventor used it to end the night, you're still dead :( --Shadowcrest 23:59, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, goldenmama asked me to kill her night 3. So I did. --Shadowcrest 00:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * >.> [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, wasn't my decision :P --Shadowcrest  00:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Erm, ofc not.. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 00:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I beg your pardon? :P --Shadowcrest  00:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If that was a daybringing invention, wouldn't Blinding Flash have been a better skill than a rez?[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  01:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Or better yet, Glimmer of Light.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  01:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

reasoning out the previous day
Most of us were swayed by MP's accusation of Thoughtful. We can assume that MP wasn't mafia because of the attempt on his life. So MP was acting in self defense? But what about the others. I myself was suspicious of Thoughtful because of his quick accusations and the irony of the name Thoughtful when he clearly doesn't think about the consequences of his accusations... Additionally, I believed that MP's reasoning was sound. Lastly, even if Thoughtful was a townie, his accusations were still dangerous. As for everyone else's accusations: Jio seemed to have much the same reasoning as me and formed his opinion prior to MP's vote. Since I know that my own reasoning was innocent, I can believe that his too was innocent. Several accusations were then thrown back and forth, with little rhyme or reason. Then MP accused Thoughtful. RT and Cress who had previously been threatening to lynch each other quickly agreed with no further explanation. (Innocent agreement? or happy for an excuse to accuse someone who they knew to be a townie without explaining why?) Giga too agreed with our trigger happy theory. Notice that me, Giga, and Jio all voted based on Thoughtful's trigger happiness and on the attempt on MP's life, RT and Cress only seemed to vote based on agreement with MP's reasoning. This may mean nothing however. Entrea too voted for Thoughtful but only after Thoughtful seemed to give up. The other person to vote for Thoughtful was Goldenmama. We know Goldenmama was townie but since they also took their own life, we must wonder what was really going through their head.

So here we stand. Vipermagi killed by the mafia. And attempt on MP's life which he managed to escape from (he's either the Norn soldier, was protected by the monk or was protected by one of the inventor's inventions). Thoughtful dead without a fight in virtual suicide. And finally, the inventor saved us from a murder by the mafia last night but Goldenmama still took their own life. Three townies are dead and we have very little headway into determining who the mafia are. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 00:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a lot of words for saying "I have no idea".[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  01:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The user name Thoughtful is derived from the fact that all my PvP characters are ____ of Thought Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 01:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * <font face="comic sans ms">It's still very nicely put. I was a little surprised to find they day started already.  Our best bet, is to go on Thoughtful's premise that the mafia was setting him up.  If that is the case, we can be almost positive that some of the people who voted for thoughtful, were infact mafia.  That is probably the only clue we have at this point.   Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  01:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I'ma stick to Lynch Warwick but it may change...unfortunately to many people to pick from still...and this could be bad depending on the mafia to townie ratio...--Varon Searer 02:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * <font face="comic sans ms">On a somewhat of a plus side, we have better chances of picking a mafia member, as the townie member count decreases :P <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8 02:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Varon, are you in australia? Isk8, why is everything you write in comic sans ms? :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  02:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the first one we'd want to kill is the Mafia Janitor... if at all possible, that is. Obviously we have no way of knowing who it is... but once he's gone, things become a lot clearer. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * (EC)<font face="comic sans ms"> Because I like comic sans :P <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8 02:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * lynch varon for voting to lynch me. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 02:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I know I haven't been voting like ever... I'm gathering information, and I know the mafia/townie ratio aint looking too great at the moment. And all of our suspicions have pretty much been proven wrong, I'm picking a name out of the air and saying Lynch Entrea. Matrim [[Image:Squirrel_crossbow.png]] 02:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I have to admit Jedi did a nice job summing everything up; all said though, like she mentioned, we've still really got no headway whatsoever, other then knowing that the dead ones are townies.
 * There's really not much to base anything on at this point; so far, nobody's let any important information leak out, sadly. But that itself might be as good as telling us who's who; there's a few members who have been very, very quiet... not entirely quiet, but not really saying much. Almost as if they were either trying not to be targets (be it avoiding lynching, or avoiding being deemed a threat from the Mafia). Or perhaps they're just, you know, busy. On some undisclosed forum.
 * Cress and RT have both been a little too quiet for my taste, but that alone isn't all that suspicious. If I didn't love talking so much, I'd probably do the same. I don't want to just pull a name out of the air, but it's not like we've got anything else to base on... I'm going to vote Lynch Cress, for the reasons I mentioned above (and what Jedi said as well). --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Jedi, how do you know that last night's kill was stopped by the inventor? (Note: This is not supposed to be accusational at all, I just want to know if it's posted somewhere)--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 03:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, nevermind, I see it now. My eyes must of skipped over that part. Sorry.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 03:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * lol MP. Well, I have nothing to go on, but I've been suspicious of RT since Vipermagi was killed, since RT used the food joke in the first place. However, I'm not going to vote anyone yet. Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He was the first one to make the food joke. However, we have absolutely no leads right now (which sucks) our best bet might just be to kill off a person at random just hoping to get lucky.  That being said I vote to Lynch RT.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  03:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT NOW
Lynch MP47. He's mafia.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * THE DEAD SPEAKS OMG! Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * (EC) GRAH! Dead body talking to meh --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a trap, but lynch Marco. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't told goldenmama anything... --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  03:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * so we're taking advice from dead people now? especially depressed dead people? Matrim [[Image:Squirrel_crossbow.png]] 03:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... Lynch Shadowcrest-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because you can totally lynch me :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  03:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If we all voted to lynch Shadow, would everyone win except Shadow? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * idk. Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Only one way to find out...-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You're certainly welcome to try. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 03:29, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's possible in theory that MP is a Norn Mafia (the roles page doesn't say it's impossible) and the Mafia attacked him for the sole purpose of throwing all suspicion off of him, knowing he'd survive. However, I find it highly unlikely this is true. Lynch Goldenmama's dead body for trying to get Marco killed =P[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:29, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well since Goldenmama is dead, their votes don't count, but I'd advise against voting for lynching Shadow... its a mite bit pointless. Just the delusional two-cents of Matrim [[Image:Squirrel_crossbow.png]] 03:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think lynching shadow is the mafia equivalent of killing God in RL--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 03:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * (3 Ec's in a FREAKING ROW!!!!!)<font face="comic sans ms">It has never been said before that the mafia can try to attack themselves. I don't by that for a minute.  There is no vigilante role, so unless the mafia are allowed to attack themselves, which I DOUBT, Marco is most definitely a townie.  <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  03:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, just to return the favor (an because lynching corpses is no fun) Lynch Matrim.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Incidently, the dead CAN speak, as everyone knows. Haven't you ever told an almost-wiped team "RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!"?<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * (RI) In all seriousness, lynch Cress. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna have to go with lynch RT or Cress, whoever gets more votes--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 03:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Cress has more votes ATM. I have no idea why everyone hates him so much, but Lynch Cress anyway.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You guys drove me to this. Vote2: Lynch RT. Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch RT. Cress is doublevoter--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 03:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a second vote from lynching Shadow, not you being doublevoter, right? Because you haven't voted for anyone else.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, I'm voting for lynching RT twice. Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK then. Of course, he could still be a Mafia doublevoter (again, not against the rules, but highly unlikely) so Lynch RT[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch RT instead of Cress. Doublevoter can't be wrong. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose the chances of the doublevoter being Mafia would be slim to none, eh? Not sure how those roles work. Anyway, I guess that basically makes my two-way split rather one-sided. Lynch RT. (triple bonus; my lynch vote got Cress to talk more, and I get to lynch RT! Win/Win/Win) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch RT. Looks like he's fucked anyway and I want to get a vote in before we go to bed. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 05:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

lynching shadow
Put anything related to lynching me here. Anything else, put elsewhere. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 03:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * and Lynch Shadowcrest, since he obviously wants us to lynch him. Cress Arvein(Talk) 03:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well then I shall be the Mafia Nietzsche and vote lynch Shadowcrest. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Special event doublevote: LYNCH SHADOWCREST because he told me to.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]
 * Because I can: Burn the witch! Er I mean Lynch Shadowcrest!--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  03:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Shadowcrest because 0+1 = 1 <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 03:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll also vote to Lynch Shadow. And because this section doesn't matter to the actual game, I can reveal my role! Vote 2: Lynch Shadow. Vote 3: Lynch Shadow. That's right, I'm the super-special triplevoter! --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ...yeah. if you say so :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  04:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * lol?--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 04:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Am I entitled to a "I Told You So!" moment? Cause I did tell you not to lynch Shadowcrest. Matrim [[Image:Squirrel_crossbow.png]] 05:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Lol Glint reference
yay. No lynch. I SAEV U ARE TEE> Misfate 05:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, my wit is simply astonishing, isn't it? lol. too bad felix thought of it for me, as I fail at life --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 05:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, it's too late, 8 majority already. NOOOOOOOOOOOO. Misfate 05:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

"He then ressurects them all"
So are Goldenmama and Thoughtful back in the game?-- (Talk) (Contr.) 05:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And also, I never should have been killed by god-mode-Shadow in the first place. I never voted to lynch you!--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 05:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, their corpses were fried and thus cannot be resurrected. See them not under the pwnd members list? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 05:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I still never should have been killed in the first place. Can you unkill and unressurect me plz?--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 05:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, because then I wouldn't have had a majority and thus no reason to activate my god-mode. And you know how much I love god-mode :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  05:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, you told me the second vote HAD to be used to lynch you. You never gave me an option not to use it! Anyway, it looks like RT has a lynchable majority now.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae   <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  05:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He's dead O.0 --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  05:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And he apparently had no role. FIX THE PAGE![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  05:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * All you've told us is that the newb forgot to eneble the developer console on the advanced keyboard option menu.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  05:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hai guyz. Misfate 05:29, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't fix it, because of my incredible lack of insight, it would mess stuff up. Unless I can think of a solution... sorry I'm so nub everyone :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  05:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * /sigh.. well, I suppose I could. fine. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 05:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

ONE Last question before bed
how come we found out if Thoughtful was mafia or not but we didn't find out what RT was? &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 05:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See above comments, Shadowcrest = forgetful[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  05:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Because this user sucks at life and lacks foresight --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 05:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey! A Twin! I guess that means the other twin can rez him, then! No accidenti-lynch today![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  05:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See above comment on glint reference. nooooooooo ARE TEE, kk twin rez unless mafia kills the other twin. I hear 2 9600 GTs in SLI>single 8800 GTX Misfate 05:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec)Yes, but it's still a wasted lynch/rez. 4-0 for the mafia, methinks --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 05:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * D: [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I did not get that twin rez at all... So... *snore*&mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 05:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Twin, res RT.. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well this sucks, I go to work, and come back to this. I didn't even get to vote, though it seems it wouldn't have mattered.  Question:  If the other twin is alive, and resurrects Rt, will it be displayed in game who does the resurrecting?  I would certainly hope not, but just inferring.  <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  14:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it won't say who rezed him. And to prevent abuse, RT will be counted as dead until Day 5 (so he will be able to vote tomorrow (if his twin rezes him)), so he can't be rezed (and then re-killed) tonight. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest  15:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)