User talk:Entropy/Archive 25

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Favoured:
 * 1) Nice user boxes, lol so many userboxes, keep it up. -- "Wings" 02:44, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * ''can you please sign my talk page, no one has signed it yet *crys*
 * 1) <3 –Ichigo724[[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 20:29, 1 March 2007 (CST)
 * 2) the userboxes...o.O --InfestedHydralisk 08:48, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 * 3) Hurrah! Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs)
 * 4) Heretics forever, vetted Smiting build FTW! --Gimmethegepgun 21:36, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I present a userbox, unfortunately it's a little big :/ --Gimmethegepgun 19:15, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe, clever. It is a bit big, though. :\ Also the colors need a bit of tweaking. A link that's already been clicked on is purple, and so is the background, so it is slightly hard to read. Good icon choice though. :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 11:31, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) Needs some skill changes, and attributes are all wrong. What's with the... Oh. It's entropy. Nm, just favored. :) NightAngel 01:19, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 2)  Nice page girl [i wanted to say > nice page man XD ] its gd to see that some girls are playing guild wars. and i belive you =] Korineczek 13:01, 15 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 3) Diligent contributor and a welcome vet, but needs to work on keeping a cooler head :) GrammarNazi 18:14, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 4) Clap clap clap - APPLAUSE! - Standing Ovation! Very Helpful. [[Image:TehleetFORDsig.JPG]] AmericanVlad 21:52, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I am sensing some sarcasm...or maybe it's just me... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:36, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) Very amusing *muhahaha* Now where is the money you promised for voting? Readem (talk *contribs ) 01:10, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 2) Great page, lol. Sirocco 23:54, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 3) Yay!&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 13:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 4) I like to vote for things without giving reasons. Woot! --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   02:07, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 5) ZOMG! A INTWRWUB GURL!!! HAZX!!! [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 20:21, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * What? I don't understand a word you said... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:24, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I'll translate to the best of my abilities. Granted, I MAY be paraphrasing: "A girl on the internet? Holy s--- how is it possible? Oh the horror!" *faints* --Gimmethegepgun 20:27, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe...you're making me blush in RL. Not all of us live on MySpace you know! Besides...User:Lania Elderfire, User:Bexor, User:Honorable Sarah...etc. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:33, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 *  [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 22:41, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Translation: "She Knows I Exist! Gasp!" --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:43, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) So many userboxes. Inspiring! =D Thoughtful 20:12, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Unfavoured:
 * 1) How dare you insult Random Arena! Solus  [[image:Shield_of_Judgment.jpg|19px]] 23:03, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 * RA isn't serious PvP! [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:45, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) RA ftw! -- Sig mA  11:45, 4 March 2007 (CST)
 * RA is almost worse than "1v1"! [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:45, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 1 vs 1 ftw!!! XD lol Readem (talk *contribs ) 20:32, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) Heretic! Needs more RA. --Beautiful Gae 18:26, 4 March 2007 (CST)
 * 2) Bad vetting [[image:jups.jpg|16px]] 15:42, 11 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Proven inexperienced player who argues poorly. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:45, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Don't worry...everyone knows Jupusto sucks at making builds and hates people for unfavoring his old builds...He even said D.E. gave noobish build comments!&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 20:27, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I own. anyhow check my user page pleeze people who hate me [[image:jups.jpg|16px]] 11:23, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Mmm hmm. I can see that I'm not the only one who doesn't like you. Taken for breaking GW:NPA in build vetting? Tsk, tsk... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]]
 * Umm, you're mean to me? Jagre 01:27, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Odd reason for a Favored vote. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:33, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
 * it was an accident lol. Jagre 01:29, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) STALKER! haha, now your comment looks stupid, Entropy :P -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 20:08, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Suck it up. (erm, no it doesn't) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:10, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) You're awesome, btut his is the best place to quote some user: "Meepmeep, unfavored ' cause I can. -The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cheese Slaya or perhaps Readem
 * Pwned! Anon IP ftl [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:04, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Btw, that is my friend User:Blastedt you quoted. Pwn't again. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:17, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Actually Entropy, I remember quite clearly saying that. When I didn't have an account, and was signing like dis ~Readem :P Readem (talk *contribs ) 15:57, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
 * O rly? I went to the anon's contribs and saw a lot to Cheese Slaya's personal page, I think...or something like that...so I figured it was him. If you say so, though, then I dunno. I suppose by now it is not an IP you use so I guess we will never know, hehe. :) In any case I fixed the tag. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 16:08, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
 * "Meepmeep, unfavored cuz I can :P" Readem (talk *contribs ) 16:01, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Lulz, bit late now :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 16:08, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

Delete/Ban:
 * 1) 5 day penalty for taking so long to put up character images and forgetting the name of your Ritualist. >< Entropy 22:15, 24 January 2007 (CST)
 * 2) Has too long of a talk page, "WARNING: This page is 63 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections." -anonymous
 * 3) Deltete! &mdash;[[Image:BlastedtSigleft.jpg]]Blastedt[[Image:BlastedtSigright.jpg]]&mdash; 10:11, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * 4) Dont like her, *bans* Shadow Of Shinra 11:52, 9 February 2007 (PST)
 * 5) Needs a lot more userboxes!!!--Lania Elderfire[[Image:Pinkribbonsig.gif|My Talk]] 02:05, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * 6) NOT ENOUGH TEMPLATES! :P --Gimmethegepgun 22:20, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Discussion
Thanks Mr. Anonymous. Yay, my first achive. :) Entropy 20:34, 3 February 2007 (CST)

Archived again. Only made it thru February though... >< (T/C) 02:05, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Now that's your second archive. Now you just need more people posting irrelavent stuff like skuld's talk page and you'll have tons of archives :)!! --Lania Elderfire[[Image:Pinkribbonsig.gif|My Talk]] 02:07, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Well, as you can see I started a long irrelevant post on Skuld's talk page with some obscure comment about Microsoft Word...then it got a little out of hand...lol. I think Skuld just invites conversation that way ;) I bet if I was an admin I'd get a lot more irrelevant posts, too. Seems to come with the job. I notice you don't have an archive >.> [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 02:09, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * well that's because for one, I haven't been on wiki that long; and two... I'm not an admin; and three... I rarely participate in idle conversation which tends to ward off comments unrelated to wiki. Plus yeah I think it's Skuld's personality that just invites all kinds of people to comment there to death. --Lania Elderfire[[Image:Pinkribbonsig.gif|My Talk]] 02:13, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Oh I also try not to be controversial... that helps with decreasing comments :-D --Lania Elderfire[[Image:Pinkribbonsig.gif|My Talk]] 02:14, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Me, controversial? I'm shocked - shocked! - to hear you say that... ;) I dun think I've been here much longer than you (can't remember). Actually I am surprised you don't get more comments because you vote quite frequently - most other constant voters get plenty comments (User:NightAngel comes to mind). Thou I guess it's because you keep most of your arguments to buildpages, which is good. :D [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 02:18, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Plus when I do argue, I keep it at a minimum... I remember certain cases when Nightangel got banned for that. lol. --Lania Elderfire[[Image:Pinkribbonsig.gif|My Talk]] 02:25, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Grumble. Yeah, so do I. :) And you know, the more people I meet, the more I think Skuld is not THAT bad. NightAngel 07:21, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah it's really hard not to go off on some of these people that keep making mending warriors or sins or other builds equally bad and say that it pwns!!!! Sometimes I just keep my self from typing in some really bad builds for fear of getting into a long winded argument. Yeah I didn't think skuld was "that" bad... and come next expansion the builds section is gonna need his help again.--Lania Elderfire[[Image:Pinkribbonsig.gif|My Talk]] 22:43, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 * I would not mind having his help in the Builds section now >.> [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:46, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Archived again. Lucky No. 3! (T/C) 12:45, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Archived again, number 4. Yayzorz. (T/C) 01:36, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

5th archive. (T/C) 23:30, 3 May 2007 (CDT)


 * If you don't archive this section, it'll take less and less each time... --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   02:41, 4 May 2007 (CDT)


 * You're not helping either ;) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 02:43, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

Hitlist
Sign It Now. Don't worry, GWiki Mafia is much less bloody than those Italians. (T/C) 06:35, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
 * User: Example is a liar. He DOES have contributiions, contrary to the notice on his page.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 18:38, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

Image copyright problem with Image:Fist of Balthazar.jpg
Thank you for uploading Image:Fist of Balthazar.jpg. GuildWiki takes copyright very seriously, and the image you have supplied is missing information on its copyright status. The image will be deleted after 7 days, unless the copyright status is determined for the license and the source of the image. Please add a copyright tag to the image description page.

Thank you for your cooperation. 84.13.251.42 05:32, 3 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Image attribution project
 * I was just coming to tell you the same thing :) And 84.13.251.42 - you don't need to be so formal. This is a wiki. We're a community ^_^


 * Entropy, there's a template you can use. And you need another archive. You're up to 41kb. :P --Wizardboy777 17:23, 3 May 2007 (CDT)


 * You must be kidding? It should be totally obvious that I just Photoshopped this: [[Image:Earthbind.jpg]] into this [[Image:Fist_of_Balthazar.jpg]]. So does it really need copyright info etc? Sure I'll do it anyways, but this seems a bit silly >.> [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:13, 3 May 2007 (CDT)


 * wow, nicely done! I thought that it was some copyrighted picture of a lizard punching the ground with it's fist (then again I've barely ever seen Earthbind, let alone it's icon) --Gimmethegepgun 20:59, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

Well, I don't understand how the template works (code needs some fixes!) but is that how it should look when you're done with attribution? (T/C) 21:18, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * If there are problems with the templates please write the error up on their template talk page and i will fix it or someone else can. -- Xeon 02:47, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh, wait for all the documentations and templates, no point jumping before then. -- Xeon 03:00, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes there is, we've all been terribly selfish and I feel approbations need to be made immediately. What's an image worth, anyways, if it's not being used for the betterment of GuildWiki? This is not a social networking site. It's one thing to have a userpage full of screenshots, skillbars, profession icons, userboxes, templates, etc etc. But all those are perfectly, 100% legal since they only use GWiki's materials. Almost anything else, unless you created it yourself, is simply a self-indulgent abuse of GWiki's till-now lax policies. I feel sorry for all those potential artists and others who may have suffered for our hedonistic actions. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:03, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

Invited
You are invited to participate, in the new SoW, chosen by Cheese Slaya. Good luck and have fun :D. Readem (talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 20:46, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
 * 'Twould be nice if the SoW was on an Elite I actually have and use, like Expel Hexes. :( But those are all the "good and common" ones, so meh. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 19:36, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

WAR!
Hey you should join in here and have fun with the carnage! I'm waiting for the perfect opportunity first though --Gimmethegepgun 15:03, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I vote for Skuld, but I won't join in since I have already given up on the Secondary articles, and the Primary guides need lots of work too. It is pretty hard to write serious, factual articles besides listing the obvious, ex. "Warrior has best DPS", "Ele is often used on support builds", "Monk should almost always carry condition/hex removal", etc. That is too general though and not really worth an article. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 19:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

sorry about making you redo the images
Sorry for changing the tag to screenshot and making you change them all again, >_>. -- Xeon 00:22, 14 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Hey, you went and redid a whole bunch of mine before, so I say we call it even, eh? :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:06, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

Requested
A LAME note has been requested at Talk:Healing Burst, but I'm not feeling too well and can't really think of what to put in it. You mind taking this one? :P --Gimmethegepgun 20:27, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

Dealt with it, I don't think it warrants a tag, but you're welcome to try and find good reasons why if you want. (T/C) 19:11, 16 May 2007 (CDT)

Example
He should be on the hitlist for lying under oath. There's a big notice that says he has no contributions, but if you look, he DOES have tehm!:D&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 21:19, 21 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Wait, but he's already on there, and you already pointed that out... :S [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:29, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

Invited
Greetings noobcake!You are such a nubcake that you get to join (if you wish) Cheese's Nooby Guildhall Challenge! Have a good time and...if the hall page isn't very descriptive now, it will be soon...so live with it:D.&mdash;  Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 19:12, 22 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Pfft, we all know Entropy is the real nubcake around here :p It seems a bit complicated, but I will give it a shot I guess. Being a bigger undertaking than fake skills or builds or whatnot, I hope you don't mind a long wait... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:29, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Don't worry...designing a guild hall is a big thing:P&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 21:34, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
 * * senses His Holy Name being invoked* --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   22:09, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
 * lol.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 22:36, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
 * :) Muhahaha vandalism! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 23:05, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

Contest
Meh, thought this would be fun. The goal is to find a mystery message I have hidden somewhere on either PvX or Guild Wiki. Using clues I have hidden, you can find the message. Just something to do if you are bored, which I am sure you are :p. First Clue is on my PvX Page, look careful nd you'll find it. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 02:02, 28 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Or I could just scan your contribution history, muhahaha. ;) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:48, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Tried to prevent that, but Cheeses brother watches all my pages and ip addresses :p. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 22:07, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Not to mention I'd stumble upon it before the contest started:P.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 22:12, 29 May 2007 (CDT)

Happy Late B-day
Sorry if I am a wee tad late, Happy Birthday Entropy :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 22:06, 29 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes, happy birthday from me too. I turned 17 on the 16th. Enjoy the wii. And you should most definitely get Warioware:Smooth Moves. That game is hilariously awesomazing. ^_^ --Wizardboy777 17:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)


 * I got one a while back myself. Zelda is great as are Sports and Play.  I'm eager for the release of Mario Party soon.  I hope you enjoy it at least as much as I have. --[[Image:VallenIconwhitesmall.JPG]]  Vallen Frostweaver  08:05, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

happy belated ;o &mdash; Skuld 18:01, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks everyone ;) It would have been belated anyways, I did not post my birthday did I, so how would you know? Hehe. (T/C) 19:24, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

Age
You might wanna edit the real life section about ur age (it says u are 16, lol) --<font color="Red">Kurzspear 14:15, 2 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Good point. Fixed, and thank you. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 19:24, 3 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I thought you had been devoured by the Wii? How did you get the time to come and fix this then? :P --Gimmethegepgun 21:33, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
 * IAS of course. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:16, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh. Hey, I wonder what the IAS for Wii is? Maybe some roids or something? --Gimmethegepgun 23:18, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Actually, it's the Turbo Controller(TM), but don't tell anyone about that...Oh, and just so you know, the Wii may be mine but the TV isn't, so when the baseball game or whatever is on...then I come to GWiki or GW. >.> [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:29, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

You're Invited
To version 2 of my Skill Design Contest. It can be found on PvXWiki | here. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  13:12, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Soz, Entropy doesn't have an account on PvX and doesn't feel like getting one anytime soon either...I likes skill contest, but that alone won't merit making an account...maybe once I feel ready to take on Builds again you will see me there. Thanks anyways though. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:29, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Bug!
I'm getting a bug viewing your page...

This doesn't appear to be happening on any other pages, and this only started happening after your last edit. I'm using the default monobook skin, so this definitely isn't how it's supposed to appear. --Wizardboy777 11:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
 * i've got the same thing, I think it looks quite cool though lol. Lord of all tyria 12:18, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Damnit, first there was a bug with a broken /center tag, and now this...maybe I should just remove that template. >.> Thanks for informing me, I'll fix this asap. (T/C) 09:18, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I figured out what's wrong, at least in part. By repeatedly previewing your page with various things deleted, I narrowed it down to the "Prophecies Character Quiz".  If you remove that, it works normally.  Somebody else can figure out what specifically is bugged with that section. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    16:44, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

I fixed it for you! ^_^ IN the character quiz section, you had one table html tag that you didn't close, so i just added one at the end and it's fine now. --Wizardboy777 18:58, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Glad somebody else could fine it. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   19:16, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

Thankses, as you can see I've been too busy with RL end-of-school and other games to come and fix the page...I would never have found that error anyways, since the Copy+Paste is just what the quizfarm page says to do...and, it has been like that for ages, I dunno why it was only starting to give bugs now. Strange. (T/C) 13:50, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Nice
Nice Userpage... like all the userbox's and stuff... ^^ Falafel 18:18, 17 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Thankyous much, I hope someday to get onto Gem's list of nicve userpages, thou I have not much to speak of other than userboxes and stuff...I don't feel like doing boxes and collapsable menues and whatnot. Too much work ;) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:21, 17 June 2007 (CDT)^

I agree ^^ Falafel 03:59, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

Uhm... Nice page but definition of entropy is effy
doesn't entropy mean chao or disorder, affected by heat or other such things...? anyways.. nice page... love the boxes

Main Entry: en·tro·py Pronunciation: 'en-tr&-pE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -pies Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary 2en- + Greek tropE change, literally, turn, from trepein to turn 1 : a measure of the unavailable energy in a closed thermodynamic system that is also usually considered to be a measure of the system's disorder, that is a property of the system's state, and that varies directly with any reversible change in heat in the system and inversely with the temperature of the system; broadly : the degree of disorder or uncertainty in a system 2 a : the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity b : a process of degradation or running down or a trend to disorder 3 : CHAOS, DISORGANIZATION, RANDOMNESS

merriam webster... if you can make sense of that... anyways have a good day Njo freak 02:22, 21 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Hahaha :D Yeah, I know that is what Entropy is officially defined as...I've been in a biology class before, etc. Still, for most of the folks out there, the third entry (chaos, disorganization, random molecular motion) is pretty simple and easy enough to understand no matter how old you are. And heat is, literally, the most common everyday experience we have with Entropy, so it is also easy to relate to. Still I know what you mean, so if you don't mind I'll add this definition to my page as well. For the more scientifically inclined. Hehe. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 19:20, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Favor
Hey, im a new guy on the wiki and I'd like a favor Entropy, can u make a elite skill icon using Togo's picture (preferably a dead picture of him)? I have the perfect skill named after him...195.229.242.53 09:11, 26 June 2007 (CDT)Cardsharp
 * Dead Master Togo? I can try, but the hard part of that is that 99% of the time if Togo is snuffed, your whole party dies too...and then that annoying box "Your party was defeated" comes up, which blocks the nice screenshot. Hm. The only good place would be Imperial Sanctum mission where *spoilers* and it does not incur a party wipe, but I am not that far in Factions yet unfortunately. Anyway, I'll see what I can do. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 13:34, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

I grabbed a bunch of material to work with. Unfortunately like I said, it is extremely difficult to get a nice, clean screenshot of Togo after he kicks the bucket unless you are far enough in Factions. Esp. since the lighting changes when you're dead. But I've got a number of nice portrait and full-body shots...I'll crop them and see what I can come out with. You want a nice icon, a nice elite skill icon, so let's see... (T/C) 02:18, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * If you'd like, Entropy, I could grab a lot of pictures of dead Togo in Imperial Sanctum. Shouldn't be too hard for a Monk to solo tank him. --Kale Ironfist 02:55, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Dead Togo Pictures <- grab 'em while they're hot! :P --Kale Ironfist 08:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Hah, well thanks much...Did you take those yourself? Because remember for the image-copyright project every uploaded image to GWiki needs to be certified. If it's you that took it then that's fine since it would still be a player-created screenshot... if not then I guess I would need to get permission to use it. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 13:15, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Okay here are the icons I created:



Pick your favorite. I will do work on the Dead Togo icons once I get the go-ahead from Mr. Ironfist as to whether they are usable under Wiki license restrictions. (T/C) 18:31, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes, I did take them (you'll notice a -5/+1 in one of the screenshots. A 55 monk solo tanking Shiro so that I could get close enough AND survive). It took ages to get a myriad of them since he kept shadow stepping, and the effects of Protective Spirit created a bubble that needed to be factored in to the minimum distance away from Togos' dead body, which also meant many of the crops of his body were small. In the end, I took 10 screenshots and called it a day. I was sleepy, and it was around 11pm. --Kale Ironfist 18:56, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Alright then, I'll get back to work. :p Sorry you had to go to all that trouble too. :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Okay, now here are the icons for dead Master Togo, pick one:



I didn't use every single one, Kale, since the tiny images were already too bad resolution and he does look the same from most angles anyways :) (T/C) 19:13, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Bad resolution?! The originals from what they were cropped from were 1680x1050 bitmaps! 5 megs each! The injustice of it all! *flails around* XD --Kale Ironfist 19:51, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Well yeah but that's just empty space with no Togo in it, I don't want that for my icons! :p They were just mostly too small...Considering that an actual skill icon is only like 56x56 pixels, I did not want to take an already-small Togo and shrink him even more. When making things smaller, you want to start with the largest possible pic you can get...If the Togo pics you had were smaller than 56X56 then that would be different, I would just add filler so as to prevent blur :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 19:54, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Revert
Dang, you beat me to that one :( --Gimmethegepgun 20:35, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, coffee does that to you. :p [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:36, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Well, then again, I wasn't informed of the vandalism by RecentChanges, I was trying to fix up something on updates page and then suddenly the line Update== appeared for no apparent reason, so I went to recentchanges to figure it out. Anyway, I wonder what makes these people think it's funny to vandalize anyway? --Gimmethegepgun 20:39, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * That one didn't seem like vandalism, more like a confused anon trying to put up the new update notes. Since, you know, there's been another patch and GWiki has nothing yet :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:53, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Or maybe not, I checked his contribs and you're right, just a vandal...sigh. Personally I think it is just another way to beg for attention. Vandalism and blanking and junk pages force us Wiki users to do something about it and we usually also take notice of the vandal by going to their Talk page, placing a +ban notice, etc. I guess it must be gratifying to them in some sort of twisted way. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:56, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * The way you put it suddenly reminded me of terrorists: Their goal is to change the way of life in some way or another, and though they might not deal damage, such as if they're caught, they still cause us to change something to prevent them from doing something again, and essentially accomplishes their goal, just in a different way than expected. Seems pretty similar to vandals the way you put it :/ --Gimmethegepgun 20:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Shh, don't let Big Brother hear you say such things. You don't want a "Homeland Internet Security" department monitoring all Americans' Wiki usage do you? -.- You're right in any case though...vandals to a Wiki can be likened to terrorists in that one way or another they get what they want...change and/or awareness. For example. If I started vandalizing all the pages with links to [www.dotcom.com], it would easily be reverted and I'd be blocked, but I'd bet you that at least one curious user scanning recent changes would click on the link. Or at the very least it would be stuck in someone's short term memory for awhile. Mission Accomplished(tm). [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:03, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * You know, I'm surprised he hasn't TRIED to trademark that yet <_< >_> --Gimmethegepgun 21:11, 28 June 2007 (CDT)