Talk:Game updates/20060817

Representatives redirecting to the wrong place?
I just noticed that when using the representatives in the Great Temple of Balthazar, they are taking the player to the wrong places. When I tried to go to the jade quarry, they sent me to Fort aspenwood instead and when I tried to go to Fort Aspenwood, they wouldn't let me. Anyone else experienced this? --SavageX 22:50, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Just tested w/both Kurzick and Luxon, both send you to the wrong places. --Rainith 22:59, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Another update: They fixed this issue. Katscratched 23:25, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Yep, the issue has been fixed. However, I think it should be noted that PvE/RP characters cannot access the missions if they haven't been to those places before. --SavageX 23:56, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Um, it is noted in the update: They also are able to transport roleplaying characters who have previously visited these outposts. --Rainith 11:06, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Doh, my bad. Forget I said anything then --SavageX 04:29, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

EoE
Will the EoE nerf cause the EoE bomb finnaly to go away?--Deserth 23:09, 17 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Technically it should. But EoE bombing has become such a big part of another disliked team build, IWAY. :) So, I am doubly happy. --Karlos 23:54, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
 * basically makes this skill worthless from a farming perspective. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 00:18, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * A total nerf. not worth anything at all now. the greatest skill in the game goes down the drain, and maims all rangers around the world. :[ Foo 03:03, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Crap. There goes the only point of my 55hp ranger. (What point, you might ask) --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 03:08, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * You're not serious. EoE was the bane of friend and foe alike in AB, because a dumb EoE-bomber would gladly sacrifice ten people from his team to take out three attackers, leading to a loss by numbers. And come on, it's not as if the Ranger-class doesn't have other great skills to choose from, it's still one of my favourite classes. With or without EoE - frankly, preferably without. --Black Ark 03:24, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Yeah, rangers rock anyway, but if not the best skill, then it was atleast the most fun skill. nolani charr farming, urgoz bombing, dragon throat bombing, spider cave bombing... it's all gone now. Foo 03:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I do think the nerf is a bit overkill...now the skill is almost entirely without use, as opposed to being almost without use except for a couple of trick pvp builds and farming. They could have gone softer on the nerf hammer >.> --Sami 05:35, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

New Weapons/Items...
Ok, the in-game rumor mill is going on in my alliance, here is what I am hearing: Please add info here with screenshots if possible or links to threads. --Karlos 00:03, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * New "Jade Sword" in the Jade Sea from the Outcasts.
 * New "Shield of the Hunt" in the Forest from the Wardens.
 * A bow in the FoW.


 * Update: FoW did not download any files. Just making a note. --Karlos 00:25, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * UpdatE: Jade Sword is confirmed in this thread. --Karlos 00:27, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I added Gloom Shield from that thread. I also changed the note from 'Added new items' to 'Added new skins', because that's what they are. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 01:22, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Maybe they have added the stonehearder bow finally 211.26.110.226


 * Coin Shield from here:, directed from here: HJT 06:09, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * The thread also tells the coin shield is a fake, one or two pages later. 06:18, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * oh, well, i just scanned the thread for images, dont like reading too much ;) HJT 06:21, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Regarding the Stoneherder's Flatbow, I don't think we will see that bow anytime soon or at all. ANet doesn't seem to know or care as that it is not in the game (Aratak asked them about it with little success regarding the issue). The only reason we know the item blueprint exists is that ANet updated all weapons with AP to 20/20 and that item was one of them. That doesn't mean the item is linked to any bosses' *cough* Drago Stoneherder *cough* drop list yet. The blueprint could just be in the client floating around in limbo.


 * On a different note, the Jade Sword looks like a Rapier from the screenshot. Nice. -Gares 06:35, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm still waiting on a Terror Shield&mdash; ├ A ratak  ┤  09:15, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

assumption or proof, the Salient daggers? HJT 06:07, 19 August 2006 (CDT)


 * See Talk:Salient_Daggers. All the information to investigate if you needed additional proof is in the article. Hope this helps. :D -Gares 07:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Hand Axe is a new one but I don't have permission to link to it. It's the same colors of the new hammer skin, looks similar to a large hammer of sorts, very angular, a short handle, and spiked ridges on top where the haft and blade meet.--Vallen Frostweaver 13:44, 23 August 2006 (CDT)


 * lol, no permission to link??? uhm... u may explain? ;) HJT 05:40, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Not my image and it's on a fan site forum. I like to stay out of hot water if it can be avoided and posting another's image without their permission is not something I like to do.  I've know some who got angry at this and purposefully attacked this wiki site because of it.  So, I'm erring on the side of caution here.  I'll keep an eye open for someone that I can convince to post it on here though.--Vallen Frostweaver 06:51, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * well, thats an easy one. just post the link to the topic over there. as wer not over at gwonline, u may post the url. that wont make angry ANYONE ;) if theres an article about it, the image will come sooner or later... HJT 07:32, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Done.--Vallen Frostweaver 08:28, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I would prefer our own article on this item. The link can be at the article's talk page for evidence.
 * The issues in the past have mainly been with posting off-site images directly within the wiki (not links). We only allow images that are uploaded into the wiki.  Because images uploaded to the wiki must be sharable under the site license, we also remove uploaded images where there's obvious copyrights on the image that would prevent them from being shared under the site license.
 * We have a policy to not have articles about other sites (we're not an internet directory), and when we have our own content, we remove links from articles but permit them to remain in talk pages. The main reason for this is that where we've had links to other sites in articles, we've seen issues where a second, third, fourth, etc site will come along and say "well if you link to their info, you should also link to our info", which results in long-lists of links that again become nothing but an internet directory (which we're not). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 09:12, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * your absolutly right, just... there's already a Hand Axe, how should we do it? two articles on the same page? or a new page like 'Hand Axe (Canthan Art)' or what? HJT 09:16, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I've moved the link to the talk page for the Hand Axe article (still giving Vallen credit for mentioning it here). Once we have our own image (someone's bound to have or find one) we can upload a second image to the article and mention any stats variance if they exist.
 * If the new stats are significantly different, we can always design an alternate solution once we learn more. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 09:22, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * the weapon info template accepts up to four images, just insert  when you have an image. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 11:02, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * There is difference with this one as I beleive it only drops from certain enemies/chests in certain area(s) and is always Purple or Gold (as is the case for the other 'new' skins). This is still in testing but a separate page may be necessary or at least something noting the difference between them on the same page.  I'll let you know if I see more info on it in the forums I read as to the info I just mentioned.--Vallen Frostweaver 13:41, 24 August 2006 (CDT)

Small UI fix?
I think they fixed the animation of the green buttons. They now fit the new interface. --numma_cway 08:48, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
 * If you are talking about the small gren '+' in the party screen and such, they were replaced in the update that you linked to. You might have had a crrupted file or something if you saw the buttons after that update. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 08:57, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

Minotaur change
After this update the Minotaurs in Elonas Reach no longer consistantly hit for 60 versus characters with 0ac. This severely limits the ability of the Spirit Bond Monk to farm them. Further testing is necessary to determine whether this is a change purely to the minotaurs or a universal change to the damage calculations for mobs.


 * That's really not the deduction to be made from the findings you are seeing. I would investigate Spirit Bond. --Karlos 08:59, 24 August 2006 (CDT)