User talk:Skuld/Archive 8

Blocking
I know we've just rid ourselves of [GuildWiki:Penalties for abuse] but 1 week for making a pointless page? Harsh man harsh! --Xasxas256 07:15, 8 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I usually do 1-3 days for vandalism of existing and 1 week for creating vandalism pages, too much? &mdash; Skuld 07:16, 8 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I reckon, I mean it was just one off gibberish, I mean if it was racist or done multiple times after being warned that's different. Well you're the admin but yeah I do reckon possibly a bit harsh. --Xasxas256 07:18, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I'm not an admin, but yes, I think so. Remember that many of such edits may just be new/young/stupid users trying stuff out. Give them the benefit of the doubt and only hammer hard on the real vandals, imho. -- [[Image:Bishop_icon2.png]] Bishop [ rap|con ] 07:20, 8 August 2006 (CDT)

Ok, 3 days now &mdash; Skuld 07:22, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I personally don't think that any penalty needs to be handed down on somebody who vandalises an article as a once off. --Xasxas256 07:29, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * It's more to ward them off doing it again and leave an entry in the block log for future reference if they do it again. If someone creates a page as their only contribution then it gets deleted, their contribution log is empty &mdash; Skuld 07:31, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I agree with your sentiment, Skuld (although I'd most likely just block for 1 hour because it serves all those purposes equally well without being as harsh). -- [[Image:Bishop_icon2.png]] Bishop [ rap|con ] 07:33, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Never knew it was possible to block for below one day. Default list goes 1, 3, week, 2 weeks. Knew you could set custom but though it had to be in days+ :o &mdash; Skuld 07:37, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Yep I like 1 hour, also I think if it's just testing/gibberish testing type edits then we should put a note saying welcome, please don't vandalise, use the Sandbox, you've been blocked for 1 hour blah blah. 1 hour should give them a chance to read it. --Xasxas256 07:39, 8 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I'd agree. More than 1 day for anything that might just be a new user playing around (stupidly) is harsh.  1 hour is probably fine.  Any kind of commercial ads or racism, etc., go ahead and bring a gigantic hammer down.  --JoDiamonds 15:34, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * huh, I wonder if we have different settings. The default durations available on my screen are 2 hours, 1 day, 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, infinite, or other. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 16:55, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I guess I'm a jerk. I'll do 1 day for something trivial, but usually a week for anything else. &mdash;Tanaric 17:49, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


 * One week doesn't seem too harsh. People won't die if they lose a week, and they sure will refrain from screwing up in the future too. /cheer Tanaric :)  --ShmEk 23:23, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

back already?
just saw an edit by you in recent changes, that must be the fastest vacation on record. ;) --Honorable Sarah 16:06, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Happy Birthday!!
<3 <3 <3 Foo 20:16, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Well done mate, a quick Wikipedia search shows that drinking and driving are still out but AoC is in, so have fun with whatever you get up to! ;) --Xasxas256 00:48, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
 * rofl! Foo 03:40, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Xas is either taking this too seriously or has really lost his pants. Anyway, Happy Birthday Skuld! --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 04:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

Ty ^^ I'm nearly old :p &mdash; Skuld 05:45, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
 * So what did you get up to!?!! ;) --Xasxas256 06:01, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Nothing yet, recovering from jetlag ;( &mdash; Skuld 06:02, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Sorry I missed the party, but Happy Birthday! &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:28, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

Scrutinizing the scribe
Hey Skuld, do you have that topic on GWG that mocked the scribe? --Jamie  06:15, 21 August 2006 (CDT)
 * 'fraid not :( Looked through 7 pages of riverside and didn't catch my eye, google didn't return anything either &mdash; Skuld 06:50, 21 August 2006 (CDT)

Ban
I don't think he deserved a ban. That seemed like pressing the wiki edit toolbar randomly to test tihngs. Atleast it seems so from the delete summary. -- (talk) 06:49, 21 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Save button is clearly marked &mdash; Skuld 06:50, 21 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Skuld is faster and meaner than you! Being serious for a sec I'm probably leaning towards Gem but I'm just a softy. Sometimes. --Xasxas256 06:52, 21 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Sandbox, user space, preview, all useful for testing. main namespace isn't a playground. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 10:44, 21 August 2006 (CDT)

Dark Apostasy
Your new assassin build looks nice, be sure to Build it, when you've completed it ;)~Shadou 10:08, 21 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Thanks :) I have all the stuff unlocked but I want to test on my PvE 'sin, need to get around to buying another mask and gloves and getting to Amatz Basin &mdash; Skuld 11:02, 21 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Have a play with the build on my Userpage if you are interested in doing some _real_ damage, like a proper 'sin ;] ~Shadou 08:24, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
 * With 12 daggers?.. &mdash; Skuld 08:17, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
 * He makes up for it by having 235 attribute points. -- [User:68.142.14.35|68.142.14.35] 08:37, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Hardly, I make up for it with a killer chain.~Shadou 06:00, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * 12/11/10 is 235 attribute points. --Fyren 06:19, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Daggers 11 + 1, Crits 11 + 1 + 2, Healing 10? that's 200+4, with one point left..?~Shadou 07:04, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * You might find Attribute point spending useful. --Xasxas256 07:09, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * This is a ridiculous thing to even bring up. 12 daggers is not bad, and 235 attribute points doesn't make 12 daggers good. Know how to play assassin? it's all about the money baby.~Shadou 07:33, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * It has nothing to do with knowing how to play an Assassin. Ignore the runes/mask, you can't have an attribute point allocation of 11, 11 and 10. You can have 11, 11 and 8 but neither a PvP or PvE char can have 11/11/10, that's more than 200 attribute points... --Xasxas256 07:43, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Fully not seeing what that has to do with my original comments, you guys reading the right build? Heh, I should just delete this whole section, it was counter-productive.~Shadou 07:46, 27 August 2006 (CDT)


 * This is seriously the only way I can think of to explain it:
 * [[Image:Attributes 11 11 8.jpg]]
 * If you were talking about something else, I apologise but what I'm saying is that you can't have 10 points in Healing Prayers, only 8. --Xasxas256 08:00, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Wrote it up wrong, I have 11 dags, 10 crits, healing 10. ;)~Shadou 10:26, 27 August 2006 (CDT)

Nightfall Builds
could you comment on the disposition of nightfall builds here? --Honorable Sarah 16:51, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
 * hmmm ... moved to here. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:44, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
 * bump. I'm asking several admins to take a look and voice opinions. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:50, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
 * In response to you'r vote, couldnt a move and retag remove your reasoning for delete? remove the "untested" and add in the C3 tag, and move them to namespace but give them a Prerelease Build tage stating that the builds will likely change and are just there for informational purposes to provide concepts for builds once the game is released. This would IMO allieviate the problem of people having to patrol them WHILE allowing those of us who want this to remain for inspiration. --Midnight08 06:37, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Fine with that too. &mdash; Skuld 06:38, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * If so, would you consider adjusting your vote on the page to the "Move Nightfall Builds vote, and referance my comprimise?--Midnight08 08:46, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Nix that, Xasxas's Comments have swayed my vote even. --Midnight08 09:17, 24 August 2006 (CDT)

out of process deletion of [refund point]
GuildWiki talk:Criteria for deletion

can you sort this?
[A/R runner] needs a good delete, a new user "got confused". i'm still not convinved this person is on the up and up, but i suppose giving out more rope isn't going to hurt me. --Honorable Sarah 11:08, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

Delete images, list 6
Hi again. I'm getting tired of having others do this for me. Could you plese delete images listed at http://gem.users.paivola.fi/delete%20images%206.txt. I made the list so that you can just copy paste it to a wiki page and click on the links to delete the images. Thank Rainith for the tip. (If you are another admin reading this, feel free to do this) -- (talk) 05:53, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I hate to be a drag but you forgot the underscores (to replace the spaces), here's a fixed one:




 * You're welcome to remove that above list and correct your text doc Gem (or you can remove it Skuld so you're talk page isn't clogged up). --Xasxas256 06:08, 27 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I wont correct my text any time soon as you have the easy links here :) --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2006 (CDT)

Thanks you 2 :) I use notepad++ on the others to replace spaces with underscores &mdash; Skuld 08:19, 27 August 2006 (CDT)

Are you saying...
...you don't like burgers and chips? --Fyren 08:25, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * He's a Pom, so maybe he's a fish and chips man! I guess being 16 doesn't give you admin powers at home! :D --Xasxas256 08:28, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * 15! :p I like all fried and salted things. Except salted fries &mdash; Skuld 08:29, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Oh well take it as a compliment, you're at *least* as mature as a 16 year old! Of course 16 year olds are known for their immaturity so it's not the best compliment I've ever given! --Xasxas256 08:44, 27 August 2006 (CDT)

Re: Effective mesmer guide
Can you add into the talk page the primary concerns that you see needing the cleanup tag? It still needs a little work, but I thought that overall it was in reasonably good shape (although I don't like the section header "So you're a Primary Mesmer", but other than that, good shape). As there is no style and formatting guide for profession guides, I'm uncertain of the specific concern you had that prompted the tag. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:11, 28 August 2006 (CDT)
 * The usage of &mdash; Skuld 11:13, 28 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I hadn't even noticed they were in use. Just removed them and the cleanup tag.  Or was there more that triggerred the tag?  That seemed a pretty minor item that could've been just as easilly edited out instead of using the tag.  --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:19, 28 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Just that, thanks &mdash; Skuld 11:24, 28 August 2006 (CDT)
 * An edit summary saying that would have saved me some worries. :) --Theeth (talk)   11:29, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

In response to your comment
here Yes, i'm pretty sure that was a blind vote from Rapta... looks like he went and negative voted on all EoE builds soon as the nerf came... even though it may have actually helped the build in question... --Midnight08 14:19, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

Question about an already vetted build
The Melandru's Totem Axe farm build may work, but it has several glaring omissions. It does not take into account the skills used by the enemies, i.e. Root Behemoth's use "I Will Survive" making Sever Artery and Gash counter productive and Life Pods use 'Mend Condidtion'. Therefore, the build has no attack skills to speak of and takes an enormously long time to accomplish it's task. I have revamped the build to a much more effective form, but am hesitant to submit it because the original has already been approved. Should I submit mine, or edit the original? [User:Hells Last Survivor|Hells Last Survivor] 12:02, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

Nice page
Lol I like the ninja picture

Ban
I was just going to say something about a loose ban finger, but then I saw the edit made to your user page. I think it's the same person and he got mad about the ban. -- (talk) 08:10, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Do I ban 67.191.13.49 tho? I'm tempted to give something ending in years ]=D &mdash; Skuld 08:16, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Although it probably servers no purpose, ban him for 3 days or something. Revenge by editing a banning admins user page isn't nice. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 08:35, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Assassin attack chain QR
I edited to wiki based table... that the only fix it needed? --Midnight08 13:13, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Yeh &mdash; Skuld 16:43, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Hi
Hey skuld, I'm back.. u think u can come on MSN anytime soon or at least message me via my talk page (or this one if u want)? --Tizzy 13:42, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Snow Beast
Don't forget to read the talk page before trying to delete it this time. :P -Gares 17:28, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Mostlinked
Looks like your #6 in the list... but are you tryin ta tell us something here

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what's with scam being the #1 thing on the list of things that link ta ya.... =P (just messin with ya man) --Midnight08 08:32, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Whaa i'm telling! ;( &mdash; Skuld 08:58, 31 August 2006 (CDT)