Template talk:Sockpuppet

Do we need this?
Is this really needed, except to spread rumors and paranoia throughout the community? --Gares Redstorm 15:03, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Not at all. We are small enough for talk pages to do fine &mdash; Skuld  15:07, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Yes it is needed. If the person who received the sockpuppet banner disagrees, he is free to remove it and fight it out in talk. Consensus and AGF is impossible in the presence of sockpuppets, so there has to be a way to flagging them. It is even more important for small wikis because consensus can be swayed easily by even one or two alternate identities. F G 15:15, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * i put one on my page. granted it points to itself, but i think it illustrates the point. this is someones bitter stab at someone else they don't like. a less caustic version would be an AKA tag. "this user is also known as 24.214.53.56" --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 15:47, 18 June 2006 (CDT)

If this will ever be used, it will most certainly NOT be slapped by one user on another user's page. It's like the easiest way to start a war. --Karlos 16:15, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
 * there seems to be very little shortage of that lately :( --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:33, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Haven't you noticed that all these wars have involved Stabber? What was the last war that didn't involve him, hmmm? The adbrite one? The one with the firefox banner? I honestly can't remember another war started by a user on this wiki unless we go all the way back to Talk:Tank. F G 16:38, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * i don't think your war is helping matters, either. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:55, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * It is far, far too late for this particular matter to be helped. Give me my victory dance. I warned the wiki about Stabber once, but no one listened. Let there never again be doubt. F G 17:04, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * This wiki, however, is not about your victory dance. So, if your victory dance includes breaking wiki rules/disrupting the wiki yourself, you're just as bad as he other side you are trying to accuse. You seem to be very capable to lurking and stalking yourself, and when capable, you seem quite capable of abuse. Those qualities will not earn you much trust here nor much leeway. --Karlos 18:43, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I find it a little disturbing that the user who is fighting Stabber and the sockpuppets and is now defeding this template is probably one of the sockpuppets. I also vote no for this template. I hate the warmongering and suspiciousness caused by all this. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 19:01, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I refuse to believe that F G is one of Stabbers sockpuppets. If I am wrong, than Karlos is probably right and someone is having a very hard laugh at us right now. --Xeeron 19:11, 18 June 2006 (CDT)

Arguement why this should be deleted
Quite simply, there is no use for it. Socketpuppery is definitly not a widespread phanomena and using a template to point it out invites abuse. Given that the template nesseccarily MUST be accompanied by explanation and prove on the talk page, we can also do away with the template and leave the explanation on the talk page. --Xeeron 19:11, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I think this is why blatant voting (without rational) in this wiki is a bad idea. We should stick to facts, avoid having a herd mentality and not worry too much whether Stabber is Blabber or whatever. Just stick to the facts. If Stabber in one of his.her million personalities makes a good point (like s/he did with ZBoard) then we stick with the facts, regardless of the account used. --Karlos 21:17, 18 June 2006 (CDT)


 * In my opinion, this template should not be deleted. I disagree strongly with User:F G's witchhunt (and would support a ban on that user, except it would be pointless at this point), but he has produced at least a few nuggets of good information. In the future, confirmation of sockpuppetry should be left to the system administrators. With regard to the template, there should be a record of who is confirmed to be whose sockpuppet. It doesn't necessarily have to be with this template, though it is a simple and scalable method. I have argued in GuildWiki talk:Community Portal that confirmed sockpuppet accounts should be permanently banned, as they explicitly break community spirit and harm the goals of the GuildWiki project. Until that discussion is resolved, I would recommend the deletion debate be postponed. I would further urge User:Honorable Sarah to not use the template in jest, like she is at the moment. END OF TRANSMISSION Arrowsmith 22:08, 18 June 2006 (CDT)