User talk:Tupu/Build Archive/Build:E/Me Underworld Tank

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Favoured:
 * 1) I use a very similar build for dual UW, except an R/Mo famine instead of the SS necro, and AoE and mantra of resolve for counter-interupts. I clear Aatxes, Smites, and Graspings over and over, and havent died once. Very nice alternative to the 55 monk. Skakid9090 16:46, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * 2) I also use this with a R/Mo Famine, and works wonderfully. Only problem is when you get to the Coldfires, but can be handle with a good use of Apply Poison, Savage and Distracting Shot. It is actually easier if you bring Armor of Earth and Mantra of Resolve instead of Stone Striker and Mantra of Earth, to prevent the interrupts by Aatxes and Graspings. This way have the ranger bring Balthazar's Spirit and Mending for some extra protection. - Cheese Slaya
 * 3) Although my personal preference is a monk, this build will get the job done. LoyalSoldier 01:14, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * 4) I've just played a guy who used this build ( I was the SS ) and I have to say I'm very impressed. It's much easier for me than using a 55. I get the choice of differant skills/spells as he took Av and Sv. Thumbs up here. ( Evil Stabber / Death Rider Of Doom )

Unfavoured:
 * 1) This build is excelent defesivly. It dosn't have any offensive ability however, which is bad. Seeing as SS is now too slow to be the main damage-dealer in underword groups (ai flees meaning it takes forever to defeat groups), this build has no way to do damage.--TheDrifter 20:11, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * You're not taking into account the [Build:Team - 55/Famine Redux|Famine Team] ? Replace the 55 with this and you have pretty much the same thing. o.0 — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg]] 21:13, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * that dosnt even make sense. 55/ss still works. please explain.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 00:07, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * Tank/SS works still and not to mention the Famine builds are quite nice as well LoyalSoldier 01:14, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * 1) Terrible build, just terrible. This over-tanks like nobody's buisness, you could achieve the same result while still maintaining offensive skills.
 * 2) Nice build. --Swift Thief 19:36, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

Discussion

 * Obsidian Flesh makes you immune to all spells except for touch skills. It would tank in UW I believe, but I'd need to test it out. Reserving judgement until I can test it. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg]] 18:58, 31 December 2006 (CST)
 * No Rez and no damage is standard for the UW tank. Both of them are the job of the SS or Famine ranger lurking in the shadows.  I like the stone striker/mantra for energy.  Walking around at 50% movement is going to suck though :(. ---Milgram

where is the dmg coming from? just your weapon? --InfestedHydralisk 20:41, 31 December 2006 (CST)
 * The ss N or famine R maybe ? -Ichigo724 21:20, 31 December 2006 (CST)

Looks pretty good, can anyone testify how this build compares to just a simple 55? On paper it looks fine, but you never know with UW, so I will reserve my judgment until I can test this out. Defiant Elements 22:53, 31 December 2006 (CST)


 * Same sentiments as the others... too bad i worked both my jobs today so will have to reserve judgement until tomorrow still looks great (and funny, ive been considering almost exactly the same build for a little bit now but havent had time to test=P) --Midnight08 00:40, 4 January 2007 (CST)

AV/SV nerf? does it still run decent? Sephine 21:38, 7 February 2007 (CST)
 * I think it still does, but the problem is most SS necro's won't go UW with an ele... Unless they did it before of course, since this build really owns 55hp user:Dark Morphon

Existing Builds
Does build take into account [Build:E/Me Terra Tank], [Build:E/Me The Last Samurai] , or any other Earth Magic + Mantra of Earth builds that got unfavored? &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 00:43, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * i think the main differnce here is the different direction this takes... this isnt meant for the same things as those builds... The 1st attempts to Solo UW with minimal damage output and less of a focus on survival (this build is all survival and has a 2nd team member do the damage), the second seems to be an IW build that has to stand still for 1/2 the duration of IW to cast the enchants=P (which is pretty bad altogether... IW is pressure standing still casting for 8 seconds at a time is NOT pressure) --Midnight08 00:47, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * Probably should be made into a team build. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Milgram (contribs) 16:35, 4 January 2007.

I have to ask. does this work? i know those skills can farm almost any meleers, but aatke deal ~300 damage per hit and when i tried an almost identical build i was still taking 60 damage per hit from them. aura of restoration dosnt heal THAT fast.--Coloneh RIP 19:16, 4 January 2007 (CST)
 * That's odd. Are you taking into account the 1/2 damage reduction from Mantra of Earth? I'm not sure if that's taken into account before or after the armor buffs, but either way, you should not be sustaining heavy damage. The armor alone will cut the damage probably as much as 2/3-3/4. I was running an Enfeeble-Riposte warrior in there solo'g as per the thread on guru (I don't recommend it as it's very slow and quite difficult) and I was only running Dolyak Signet and Watch Yourself I believe with Enfeeble to weaken the Aatxes and I was only sustaining 20-30 damage. That's not even close to the damage reduction that this build should do, but I don't know as I haven't gotten the opportunity to test it. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg]] 04:29, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * I dont remember if i was using my /me or /mo variant. I thinkk it was the /me, but since my memory is fuzzy and a few people i know say this works ill take your word for it.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 01:14, 6 January 2007 (CST)

If Obsdidian Flesh is only ment to prevent enchantment stripping,it could be replaced with a simple interrupt skill such as Power Spike or Lightning Javelin. This would allow you to take another elite skill. --User268 03:52, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * With all the additional armor it gives, I think it's meant for more than just that. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg]] 04:25, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * Im sorry, i have to rofl at that. you have obviously never been to UW recently, 2-3 NM pops are pretty common now and you really dont have any hope of interrupting them AND killing them before the others get you.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 01:14, 6 January 2007 (CST)

Without ressucrtion, you'll need a VERY cautious Necro. Solus_the_Deadly

this build was born to farm the UW with a SS or a Famine, imho its better than the 55hp because this build is indipendent and has its own sv/av. this alllows the ss or the ranger to bring other 2 skills of self-defence or anything else. the Obsidian Flesh has only a 6 sec. gap and this allows to tank even Coldfire Nights or Terrorweb Dryders without any problems.

Also, it has about 8 times the HP! I run a variety of 55 build and Earth ele farmers, and the Earth builds have the major advantage that lag/bad timing/having to get past a Necro won't kill them. I use a build like this but with Sliver Armor as a general farmer.Labmonkey 10:47, 10 January 2007 (CST)

Variant worth mentioning
If you put in Sandstorm, Arcane Echo, and Storm Djinn's Haste instead of obsidian flesh, aura of restoration, and kenetic armour you can easily solo the entire underworld. There is a video of it on youtube. :)--68.102.128.17 19:56, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 * Bull. Mesmer plain > that build. –Ichigo724[[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 13:56, 26 February 2007 (CST)