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item unlocking
Hi all,

I am trying to find out how item unlocking works. Is there an article on this wiki about it because I can't find it. There is a few things I am trying to find out. Skill unlocking seems straight forward acquire a skill in PvE and it is unlocked. But with runes for example it doesn't seem to work this way. I have some superior runes sitting in my vault (and I found; identified and salvaged these myself) but these don't seem to be unlocked (checking at the priest of balthazar). As for item upgrades I see only max upgrades are listed what about lesser upgrade items? Well thats all I guess might start an article about this myself. Carnelain 22:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would you want to use the lesser mod? It's not displayed because using the superior mod is better.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * In theory, identifying an item will unlock it. For runes, it's pretty simple, but for item upgrades, you can only purchase 1 or 2 levels of it (not-max and max). However, if you id a non-max upgrade higher than what you've got unlocked now, you'll unlock up to how good the item is. Sorry if that's confusing... it is.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  22:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See Unlock for the page with the details.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  22:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * >alari I wanted to see what me current max is. I don't have a pvp char so I tried the priest. >entrea It is not confusing at all it makes perfect sense but at the priest I can't see what my highest unlocked upgrade is. For the runes however I have like three or four superiors sitting in my vault which I didn't buy to store. I'd swear I identified 'em myself but they do not show up as unlocked. There is indeed the possibility I am wrong and I got 'em for free but I don't think it's very likely. Anyway thanks for the quick responses. [[image:haiku2k72_leaf_bg_white_tiny.jpg]] Carnelain 23:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

days in a month
I was wondering how many days there are in a month to determine the age of your character, that way I can find out how many exact days there are until I get my next birthday present.
 * Hmm that's a very good question, if I had to take a guess I would say 30 but I never really put much thought into that..--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 02:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You get you're next present precisely 365 days after your last one. I think Guild Wars uses a fairly accurate calendar, probably even including leap days.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  02:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think it counts leap days, because my characters this year have been getting their presents a day early. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of bdays my war just got her present, only a white but I get a little frog dude to follow me around now.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 02:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

So if i have been playing for 23 months, this month being the 23rd, how many approximate days are there until i get a present?
 * It depends on what day the character was made. --Shadowcrest  02:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You would basically, need to remember when you created your character to answer that question. I sometimes wish it gave you a day breakdown, because my Ranger has been sitting at 35 months for the longest now. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] User:Isk8 (T / C)  02:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why can't they tell you your age, not more-or-less age?[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  02:21, 22 May 2008

Well then hopefully they do that in GW2. Anyways tyvm for your responses, they were very helpful :)
 * There are, on average, 30.436875 days in a month. Quizzical 04:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Gunnar Poundfist
I completed Curse of the Nornbear but I can't locate Gunnar Poundfist in Gunnar's Hold in order to get the Quest Truthseeker. What's going on??
 * Unless the update somehow made him disappear, he should still be there. I had trouble finding this guy at first, too. He's waaaaay over on the east end of town. I think you have to go over a bridge to get to him. You won't be able to find him by holding ALT and walking around the merchant NPCs unless you head towards the bridge I mentioned.


 * If you still can't find him, take a look at this. You see the bridge on the south east corner? he should be across it.-- franc likes tacos 02:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks much! got it now

HM guide
I was looking through the different guides and was surprised that there isn't a guide to Vanquishing areas. I have been able to complete a few areas, but there are areas I cannot seem to beat no matter what, like Grothmar Wardowns, cannot get the charr groups to fall no matter what. Anyone have any tips on this?
 * many of the explorable areas have vanquishing tips somewhere in the article. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  03:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If you think there should be vanquishing guides, the solution is for you to write them. It's likely that the reason why such guides don't exist is that very few have the proper expertise.  Unlike missions, there's no reason for a character to vanquish an area more than ones.  There's not that much reason to vanquish an area with multiple characters, either.  Someone who has vanquished an area only once doesn't have the proper expertise to write a decent guide, and if he did it by cheats like ursan blessing, knows even less about vanquishing the area.  Quizzical 03:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The other problem is that most areas have multiple ways in which they can be vanquished, and not that many require a very specific strategy. So even if such guides were written they would be of questionable value. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Grothmar Wardowns is a very hard area to vanquish. Personally, I did it by finishing the mission Against the Charr. That clears all the mobs in the fortress in the middle. The rest is relatively easy, however any EotN Charr group is a formidable foe. They actually have good builds (unlike most mobs), often balanced parties, good teamwork and if one of you dies it can cascade pretty quickly because of their Gloats. If worse comes to worst, buy a full set of EotN Consumables and you can win pretty much anything with little to no effort... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 06:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm doing such a guide, just for the sake of doing it, but the problem is that is suck at both writing and vanquishing. but then Here it is. Feel free to edit/add areas. --Rotfl Mao 08:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

what the hell
why did i get kicked off gw all i tried doing was selling stuff no told me i wasnt alowd to do it in the chat box so why did i get kicked off now i cant play thats so un far &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.179.47.238 (contribs).
 * You can contact Guild Wars Support to contest your ban, but there's nothing we can do for you here. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hero & Runes
The other day on guild wiki I found a page on someones user page which listed all their Characters Heros and what Runes/insignies they had on them. Does anyone know which user/page this is? I've tried a few times but I cannot find it. I'd like to borrow this to manage my Runes etc. Ta. Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 08:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Try search only in user space and search keywords like 'heroes runes'. Anyway, here is an example (there are more) User:Flesh_Over_Steel/Heroes -- [[Image:merty_sign.gif]]-- ( talk ) 08:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I tried all sorts of searches in the user space, Just couldnt find anything :D Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 08:47, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You add insignias and runes to your heroes - they don't come pre-equipped &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.69.72 (contribs).
 * Thx IP, but I was after a Wiki Page that I can use to Show me which of my heros have which runes equipped, etc. Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 15:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Question
What are we going to do about the new balance differences between PvE/PvP, in terms of skill articles. Sorry if this has already been asked anywhere, i didnt look very hard-- - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 19:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It has, look harder. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  19:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Helpful as always Surge. GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] User:Isk8 (T / C)  19:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What Quests Have I Completed?
Is there any way to get a listing of/or determine which quests I've already done? Khukri 14:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, no.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ 01:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

characters
i was just wanting to know if i could take my player from proph. and play with him in factions if i can please let me know Joe houser 22:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)--Joe houser 22:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can! There is a quest that you can take in Lion's Arch which will allow you to move your Prophecies character into Factions, provided you own Factions of course. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Mhenlo's Request--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That really sucks, that was not the answer I wanted to hear. XD 14:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khukri (contribs).

If you own Factions, take the quest in Lion's Arch and invite youre friend for a party. He probably needs Factions too.

SLOW MOVING MASTER OF WHISPERS
My Master of Whispers moves his minions slow into the battle and sometimes it takes forever to get them into the fight. Does anyone know why this is happening or what I can do about it? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.101.32.62 (contribs).
 * You could potentially set Master of Whispers to "Attack" mode, but be warned that he'll frequent leap ahead and aggro random mobs. The AI really has no idea how to coax minions into battle, so normally the best you can do is flag Master a bit forward so his minions get within range of the enemy more quickly. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if you pause your movement for a moment, minion master heroes tend to stop to cast Blood of the Master or to animate another minion... and this tends to be another reason they fall behind. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  I~sk8   (T/C) 05:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I found that Death Nova was the most common cause of MM lag - BotM not so much. The easiest solution is to just flag the MM along, like Felix said, but you can also force the hero to use an offensive skill (if you have one equipped) or use the "lock" button to lock the MM into attacking your target.  Either of those will force the MM to interact with a foe, which will cause the minions to attack.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * My personal preference lies in PSing him and sending him in first... after bonding up the minions with Death Nova a bit :P Oh, and he is always on attack. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 15:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally let my MM fall behind; if he's far enough behind (normally not far at all), he'll run to keep up, and stop casting spells. I don't mind him showing up to the battle a few seconds late when I do aggro, since I generally keep aggro under control on my own... and once a few melee foes have charged me, the minions are more then happy to mimic their movements. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Bonus weekends
Hi my name is George.. I am wondering a few things about the bonus weekends...

I played Guild Wars thru the triple key and lockpick drop/and bonus point weekend only to get a total of 3 keys on sunday... I ran in eye of north in factions and in prophecies... I used myself 22 lockpicks and of those only retained 2... So i am wondering how me and my account are supposed to be benefiting from this... Granted, i was able to work on my UNLUCKY title track a good bit, but lets be honest here... That was not the way I wanted to spend my 3x drop/and 2x bonus weekend...

Now i have bought all 4 guild wars games for me and my family 4 times ea... My wife, both my boys, and myself only to find that we just are not deserving of these bonus weekends...

Thanks...I really appreciate that... You have showed me that all i have done is for nothing...

This is not an isolated event either... You had a green drop weekend a few months back... My wife and I as well as several members of my guild got 1 green out of all the farming we did... NICE...

Another thing... You have the ability to change, mod, or ban an account... So why prey tell am I, The Leader of a Kurzick Guild getting several mini siege turtles for bday pets... It is as if u are just adding insult to injury now... Though I can sit back and watch some of the rudest, most unappreciative scammers benefit from all that I am not able too...

I really like the game but if there is no bonus for me to play... Why should I??? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.219.151.29 (contribs).


 * First off, I would like to say that I feel your pain on this one. My favorite line when it comes to these so called double this and triple that weekends, is 3 times 0 is still 0.  I think in my entire career of Lockpicks, I've maybe retained 1 or 2.  Lockpick retention is all based on the difficulty of the area, and normal or hard mode, as well as your titles in Lucky and Treasure Hunter.  I have I lousy 1 in both titles, increasing my chances, negligibly.  Mini pets are all another game of chance.  I've got 2 accounts, and an inherited 3rd account, and User:Isk8/Minipets as you can see there, my mini pet record is not much greater than yours.  I have 5 siege turtles and 4 hydras.
 * The various weekend events all give different bonuses to different areas of play. You will see that typically every other weekend is dedicated to some PvP bonus.  Just take it with a grain of salt.  Anet is not required to give us these weekend events, they choose to.  It is an extra addition to a great game.  As to your final question as why you should play.  Well first off, I hope you play because you enjoy the game, and not because you expect bonus weekends all the time.  Its a free online game, which is one of the reasons I still play it.  Guild Wars login announcements/Archive lists every login announcement, which the majority is all the past weekend events.
 * My last point is, that we are merely a Guild Wars Fansite. No Guild Wars employees work for us, so we can only give you advice pertaining to these complaints you have, and not really get you any farther.  I would suggest This official wiki page to ask a question pertaining to your aggravation on the subject.  I think that is about as far as I can direct you.  Don't let something as silly as a lousy weekend event ruin your gameplay experience.  It is a great game with mostly great people playing it.  Just go out and enjoy yourself. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 14:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * {ec}I can understand your frustration, but trust me, it happens to alot of people. while it may seem you only see the persons with the coolest items and everything, really they are a minority. your unfortunate hunt for keys is most likely also not an issolated incident. normally keys dont have a very high percentage of dropping. triple that percentage and you still don't get a high number. the same goes for greens. Ow and as a response to your last sentence. I think playing with your wife and kids is a nice bonus :) <font color="Green">Lยкץ๒๏ץ <font color="Blue">talk  14:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a pretty disappointing key drop w/e too. I've found that every single chest I've opened has always yeilded some useless weapon..but on another note, how are you getting several mini turtles as b/day presents? I wish I could get some, but I've only been playing GW for about 2 months now. Consider yourself very lucky to be playing with the rest of your family.Khukri 14:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You get bday presents for every one of your characters birthdays, 12\24\36 months after character creation. If you want a siege turtle, you can have one lol. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  I~sk8   (T/C) 14:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've personally got a small pile of Miniature Jungle Trolls from my b-day presents. :D All a matter of luck, sadly.
 * Just a note on Isk8's comment; While the official wiki's "Ask A Game Question" page is helpful, it's the exact same as this page; no game mods answer questions there, it's all answered by normal players (such as myself; I'm a semi-regular on that page as well). If you're really worried, I'd suggest contacting [www.guildwars.com/support Support] instead, although they're probably just tell you it's just bad luck.
 * On that note, a total of three keys? Compared to my normal drop rate for this event, that's three times as many keys as me. Do you often get keys dropping for you on regular (non-event) days? I'd say you're actually fairly lucky in that regard. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  14:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Factions character can't get any quests in Ascalon City
Hi, I have a character from Factions that I've successfully managed to get to Lions Arch. I've done the quests I've found from LA and have taken a "run" to Ascalon and Piken Square but I cannot get any quests/missions from there? Is there a particular quest I need to do so I can start from Ascalon post searing like any other Prophecies character as I'd like to meet some friends who've only got Prophecies and have just started playing GW.Khukri 14:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As a factions born character, you don't have access to any quests prior to Lions Arch. You can go back and do the missions, but that is about it.  You won't get the primary quests, or any secondary quests before Lions Arch. The best suggestion is to party with them, and have them "lead" the way, as they will have the quests.  You unfortunately won't get the quests or rewards. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 14:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As a foreign character in Prophecies, you can do all the missions without doing the corresponding quests; a good number of those early quests are for Prophecies-born characters only, so you won't be able to do them. So long as you meet up with your friends, you'll still be able to join up with them and help out on quests, as well as doing the missions.
 * If you can just ask your friend which quest he's currently doing at any given moment, hop into GuildWiki and look up the quest; the requirements will tell you if it's for Prophecies-characters only, or if you missed another quest. That's the simplest way to go about it. If you can't do the quest, then just help your friend finish it. :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  14:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

dervish help
is it possible to create a dervish in the prophesies campaign instead of the nightfall campaign well of course after you have purchased nightfall because i really don't wanna have to go through all that questing again.....
 * Nope, dervishes can only be created in nightfall. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * However, characters created in other campaigns can effectively skip well over half of Prophecies, if your goal is to complete it. Get a run from Lion's Arch to Sanctum Cay, get a run through that, get a desert tour, and then do the missions from there. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OR: Get a run form lions arch to beacons perch, get a run to droks from there, get to thunderhead keep and then the Ring of fire missions and your done.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 00:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You still have to do a good chunk of Nightfall now that they closed the Guild Hall ferry. That's probably what he wants to avoid.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  00:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You should probably get to Iron Mines of Moladune for Infusion Phatal Phantom 11:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Party Search box help
I'm confused about how the party search box works. Only confused as to who joins who's team as sometimes I'm suddenly the head of a team and other times it's someone else. When you click on a persons name in the Party Search box and select "join" does that mean you're inviting them to your team, or you're joining their team. At first I figured it put them into who had the most ppl in a team was the leader, or who was the higher level but it seems to be different every time. What's the best way to work the party search function so I know whether I'm joining someone elses team or whether they are joining my party. I hope this makes sense.Khukri 12:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think no-one knows for sure. See Talk:Party. mendel 12:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am fairly sure that the person creating the party search is the designated leader. Though it may revolve around the join rule where, whoever has the larger party becomes the leader too.  I never really gave it much though myself.  I am pretty sure though 1 on 1, every time I've clicked join on someones party invite, they have been the leader.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 12:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoever's party is larger will become the leader, I've never seen a different result there. For equal-sized parties, I'm not sure. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Equal Sized parties: Whoever invited becomes party leader. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 19:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When you're using the box yeah. For party search, who is counted as the one who invited? I think it's the one who posted the message, but I'd have to check. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The Join button works like the invite button on the PArty Menu afaik. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 19:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Join button on the party search window does not work like the join (+ -- the plus sign button) on the Party Formation window. If you invite someone to your party via the + button they will be in your party and you're the leader, with party formation window it's anybody's guess who joins who. Khukri 13:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

account name change
Can some one please help me with changing my name because when i did it and when i got the email it says something to do with expiried. And it tells me to re do it but when i do that again it says that name is in use already. PLease can someone help??? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryanvt (contribs).
 * I am slightly confused which account and which name you refer to. Obviously you were able to log in to Guildwiki with the Ryanvt account. Have you attempted to change a character or account name for the Guild Wars game? I didn't think that was possible. Who sent the email? If you copy the email here, we can read what it says and maybe help you better. (xxx out any email addresses and passwords, though.) mendel 15:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the account name (and at the same time, the e-mail) of your Guild Wars account, you can change it via www.plaync.com (though they have maintenance right now). &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 15:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

What level is my character?
Is there any way to tell how many times you've flipped over the level 20 counter? As I've noticed some people state their level as lvl 20(+8), how do they know how many times they've flipped the counter? Or are they just keeping a mental note. Do your skill points help in calculating that? I'm an assassin and have 65 skill points out of a total of 77.Khukri 12:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Experience. Look around, there should be a formula to calculate your approximate level. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 12:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can't find your level on the page Viper mentioned, you can get your XP from your H panel, subtract 182,600, divide by 15,000, and add 23. In other words, level = 23 + ((x - 182,600) / 15000 ). Round down. mendel 12:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ok I did some calculations, but it doesn't sound right. My hero panel says I have 557,437 xp ( so minus 182,600 divide by 15,000 gives me 24) and add 23 to that and that makes 47. Could that be right? Level 47? Sounds like a lot for a character that's only been around just over a month. What's the sort of xp amount that long time players get up to? And does this extra xp make you any stronger? Khukri 16:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got a character with 6 million XP, but I've seen screenshots of ones that are over 10 million. And no, once you're level 20 and have completed your attribute point quests, you don't get any "stronger" - the only benefit to XP beyond level 20 is skill points.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's just it: a character with more well-chosen skills to equip is potentially able to adapt better to a given situation. You could call that strength. Then there are the Skill Hunter title tracks.... mendel 21:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Separating multiple items in inventory.
Hi, I've got a few items in bulk together (birthday cakes, poppers, lucky clovers, etc) and I'd like to be able to separate them so I can just take one or two out with me and leave the rest in my Xunlai chest. Is there any way to separate these items without having to ask a friend to hold it for me? Thanks for all the answers to my silly questions guys, it's much appreciated. Khukri 16:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you hold shift while moving the stack, you get the option to split the stack up into whichever sizes you want. Lord of all tyria 16:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Searching for 'boss'
When I click [Search] after entering 'boss' in the search block the 'Boss' page is not displayed, although it does appear as third in the resultant list. When I click [Go] the boss page is displayed. Why doesn't it work for [Search]? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Separ (talk &bull; contribs) 00:50, 31 May 2008 (CDT).
 * Search actually searches for all pages that have boss in them, clikcing go will take you to the page by the name you entered in box if it exists.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 01:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Philosophically, the answer is that if Search worked like Go, there'd be no point of having it. ;-) Sometimes the article that you GO to isn't the one you want, so you need to be able to look at the list of search results even when there is a page that matches the exact name you looked for. Search does that. mendel 08:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

How can I get Seed of Life monk skill
The Wiki page says that Seed of Life can be acquired from the hero skill trainers, yet the skill itself is unusable by heros. Would they really make a skill available thru a hero skill trainer if heros cannot use that skill? How would a player character get that skill? I have gone to the hero skill trainers listed in the Wiki article, and they do not offer seed of life, not even to heros. So how do I get that skill for my player character?
 * A hero skill trainer is a bad name. In fact, they just teach YOU a skill, thus unlocking it for your heroes.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sunspear_Title -- Xeon 03:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You also need to be a Sunspear Sergeant to get the skill. Then just go to a hero skill trainer in Sunspear Great Hall and ask for Sunspear skills.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Article red links
Wow, it's been awhile since I've got to ask a noob question, so let's correct that right away ;) - When articles have red links to pages that should probably exist, should the links be removed untill said article is created (to make the page look neater) or should the links be left (to help remind people of the need for the missing article)?-- - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 13:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't find any policy about it, and from what I saw on the wiki it's... both. Depends on the article and the editor... Someone correct me if I'm wrong. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 14:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They should definitely be left in, for the most part - like you said, it indicates the need for the missing article. That's the whole purpose of Special:Wantedpages, to provide a list of the articles that are "wanted" on the wiki.  Of course, there are some cases where a link was put in for no good reason and can be removed, but that's up to the editor's discretion.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's the long(est) answer:
 * These links show up on Special:Wantedpages, and the busy GuildWiki editors are working with alacrity to write missing content. (The lazy ones, of course, couldn't care less). Then of course there are those that delete articles. (Some speak in awe of the "great Builds wipe of 2007".) Click on the red link, you'll get a message that allows you to check whether that page has been deleted. If it has, you have several options. One is to use Template:DeletedLink, the other is to find another page to link to that has the missing content and change the link, and the third is to sit back and relax. If the article hasn't been deleted, you can create it. Write whatever you know about the topic, put the template at the top , and congratulations! you've just been promoted to "editor"! We are friendly like that. Of course, you might find a document detailing a red link policy in GW:POLICY, but I somehow doubt that.
 * In short, leave the links if you don't want to get involved, but you're welcome to take up editing! mendel 14:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Gah, Cobalt's been an editor longer than I have, so why have I been writing all this? ;-) mendel 14:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Perlo, crewman of the Halcyon
Does anyone know Perlo's profession? Is he the Necro that's missing from the Halcyon crew? mendel 01:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Tournament points.
The may Xunlani prediction tournament is over and i would like to collect my points. Only problem is that whenever i talk to Kun shao or Tolkaro i do not get them. Its been over a week since the tournament has been over and other people say they've collected theirs. Anyone else having this problem? PS my predictions are still saved in the tournmament house as if the tournament isn't over.

Tournament reward points question
I made my predictions and the finals is over why havent i recived my points. i can make new predictions but i havent recived my points for May

Lann/ScathLann incident
Hi,

My account was merged with a stranger. How do I remove my account?

Thanks &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lann (talk &bull; contribs) 13:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC).


 * We cannot delete accounts. However, I have cleared your userpage, so you can make whatever you want of it :> And your talkpage is semi-clean ;) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  13:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hard Mode ... what happens to my old quests
Hi, I'm just about to complete Factions by doing the final mission at Imperial Sanctum but I'm wondering about the other 40+ quests that I still have to do (mostly from EotN and NF) but I have a half dozen or so from Factions.

Once I complete the final mission I understand I can then start over in Hard Mode... will I have to complete all my old quests in hard mode too or should i finish them off first before doing the final mission? Khukri 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You can choose between HM and NM any time you want. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  15:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if you end the storyline(as in, finish the last mission) the quests are still there for finishing. You can also redo any mission you want. There's no restrictions. --Rotfl Mao 08:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Lengthens poison duration
My Scythe lengthens poison duration by 33%, but does not actually do poison damage. A fellow guild member told me that it will only lengthen poison damage that I personally inflict, so my hero archer with the poison bow isn't actually the catalyst that I need for an effective poison damage combo... Any insight would be much appreciated. MostlyRock 02:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretty much, if you want to take advantage of your Scythe's poisonous mod, you need a skill that makes you apply the poison, Poison lists all the skills that you can use, but Apply Poison and Poison Tip Signet are probably your best bets.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  02:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I Know I had naga pelts
I had a fortunate venture in Hiajun Lagoon, I got 2-naga pelts, and one ruby for my efforts. When I arrived in Kaitung Center, the pelts were gone. Has anyone else experienced this loss of inventory? I would have traded them off to another character if I knew this was going to happen. (Yes I triple checked inventory and possible other culprits in my collection of characters.

Go back, do not collect 2 naga pelts, spend extra time doing what you've already done, it's all inventory...... &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.19.242.163 (talk &bull; contribs) 05:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC).

Skill Template Format
i looked at the skill template format page and understood most of it, but i cant figure out what bits are being flipped where and what to do when the profession id is 8, 9, or 10. thanks &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bob657 (talk &bull; contribs) 14:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC).


 * Explaining complicated technical matters to a user who lacks the circumspection to sign his question is always a daunting task. Anyhow, here goes: Have you looked at the pages linked in Talk:Skill_Template_format? I don't see what the problem is with profession codes 8-10, seeing as there are 4 bits for the code it could go up to 15. I see no flippin' bits, what are you referring to? The information in the article could be somewhat out of date. --mendel 15:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

in example http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skill_Template_format#Example the person wrote the binary of the skills backwards which made it very confusing 1 sould be writen 0001 not 1000. those with any visual basic programing knowledge may download source here: [www.megaupload.com/?d=YO2YWXKU] Bob657 16:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem is the little-endian order of the byte stream (thanks Intel!); if you don't wantto write the bits "backwards", you have to write the template code backwards. Both choices are potentially confusing. --mendel 09:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

How to get a Nightfall character to Prophecies
Can anyone tell me how I get my Dervish from Nightfall to Prophecies? And can I do the missions there?
 * First, you have to complete Nightfall quests and missions up to Consulate Docks. Once you get there (on your own, a ferry won't help) talk to the people there, one of them will give you a Prophecies travel quest. And yes, once you're in Prophecies, you can complete all the missions there as normal.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  01:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm sorry, but that's wrong. You still have to get to the Docks, but once it appears as a mission outpost, Deras Tenderlin in Kamadan will give you Terror in Tyria, which lets you travel to Prophecies.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  01:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have the gold to spend, you can get someone to ferry you as well, if you get ferried to Consulate Docks, and ferried to Kryta from there. But there's not always a lot of people ferrying for one, and two, it doesn't take much time at all to reach Docks on your own, so you're probably best off doing it as Entrea said. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  08:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have a new computer
I just got a new computer. I have the original guild wars, plus all the expansions, plus extra slots and loot from codes out of magazines. How do I get this moved to my new computer. I was not able to xfer it with the setttings and files application from Windows. Is there another way? I do not think I can find all the key codes to all the products from the past 3 years...
 * No. BUT: you don't have to! Download the client off the official website or install it with the CD's, then just log in. Everything you had will still be there. Unfortunately, there;s no way of recovering skill or armor templates automaticly, although you can copy/paste them from your old computer.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  02:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Copy your Guild wars folder in documents onto a thumb drive and save it in the same place on your new computer. Should work. For the client tho like Entrea said all you need is the client from one CD or downloaded and it will load all the zones and other files for you(as long as your in the account with the unlocked accounts).--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 02:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * If you have Vista (and likely if you have XP, though I'm not sure), go to your user folder, and then \Documents\Guild Wars\Templates and copy everything there to the analogous folder on your new computer to keep any templates you have on the old computer. Quizzical 02:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Like most online games, Guild Wars stores all of it's data about accounts on its own servers. No matter where you access the game from, it will access all the same data about your account (campaigns, items, etc.) and let you play just like you would on any other computer. You only have do do this transfer stuff for skill templates, which are the only things linked to your computer instead of your account.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  02:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Skill templates, Equipment templates, and Screenshots should be the only things that need transfer. I would suggest transferring your GW.DAT file over as well, so you don't need to re-load every area you've already been to. GW.DAT should be easy to find (right in the Guild Wars program folder), Screenshots and Templates are in their self-named folders in the same spot. You could copy the entire folder over, but if you're tight on disk space, it's not important. (sometimes the GW.DAT file alone can be pretty massive; mine's 3gb here, and this is my laptop! My desktop has an even bigger file.) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  08:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Account question
Hi, my sister and i share an account, (we each have half of the characters) but she is going to college this summer. I was wondering- what would happen if we both logged on at the same time?24.144.212.150 12:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The one currently logged on will be kicked off the server, and returned to the login screen. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  13:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * o funfunfun.... thx tho


 * Actually what happens is that logging in kicks the other person off the chat server (appears offline in chat and guild roster) and selecting a character and entering the game then kicks her off for good. I suggest you use an IM or irc status message to notify each other when you go on or off. --mendel 15:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Wireless Connection
Hey i posted this same question on discussions tab and i dunno if i should do it on project page or not since this is my first question and day on guild wiki. anyway my question is that i can't connect to GW with my new Netgear wireless conenction but i was able to conenct with teh wired conenction. can someone help me on how i'm suppose to connect back onto GW with my wireless connection? Angelin 21:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)Angelin
 * Probably a problem with the firewall, I have no experience with netgear equipment so I can't help much. And no the questions all go on this page.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 21:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This should help: Connection Problems with a NETGEAR® Router. Basically you need to install new firmware, and if that won't help you have to forward the port. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 22:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Fastest way to get to Imperial Sanctum?
What's the fastest way to get a new character in Factions to the final mission in Imperial Sanctum so that I can pick up an extra weapon? Is it possible to get a run there after reaching Kenaing City? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khukri (contribs).
 * Yeah...no, your gonna have to actually work to get to the end of the game.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 02:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Only doing Primary Quests and only doing one side in the Kurzick/Luxon split is the fastest way. Also, accumulating 10k faction ahead of time is a good idea. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 03:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If all you want is the weapon, the fastest way to get it is to buy it. Quizzical 22:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Video
I was wondering how you make a video on Guild wars because I can make a screenshot, but no videos... Can someone help me? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nightfall Fan95 (contribs).
 * , if you want a reliable program and without the logo on the video you'll probaly have to buy something.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally, I use Fraps. It's not free though (the free version only records 30 sec). A lot of people are using "GameCam". The free version apparently doesn't have time limitations, but leaves a watermark on the movie. Xfire also has a video recording option in Beta stage, and it's free. Remember that recording a video is very computer intensive. The video you record has to be uncompressed, because there's no time to compress it, and a 5 minute video, at 1024x768 resolution takes up 4 GB. After recording you'll have to re-encode the video to have a "normal" size. Windows XP comes with a free application "Windows Movie Maker" that you can use. There are also a lot of payed programs, such as Sony Vegas or Adobe... something, I forgot ^^; But those are professional programs, and thus are very expensive. Xfire has a build it encoder if I remember correct, but you can't edit the video to add subtitles and such. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 04:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

What is the best way to earn lots of platinum?
I have a Dervish in the nighfall campain. I want to buy the vabbian armor (and not take forever trying) but I don't have all of the materials I need. I need 200 bolts of cloth, 32 elonian leather squares, 16 rupies, 16 sapphires, and 25 platinum. I have the cloth and the leather squares but I don't know how to earn all of the rest! Please tell me any techniques you people know of to earn LOTS of platinum and get all of the sapphires and rubies I need. Please help!! (Nightfall is the only game I have right now...) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.243.235.18 (contribs).
 * Farming a good location and selling the items. Unfortunately, this is also fairly difficult, especially for a character early in the game.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would recommend getting your guildmates to come with you for Eye of the North dungeons, and make sure someone takes Light of Deldrimor. Not only do you generally profit by at least 4k per dungeon just from selling to the merchant, you might also find gems or rare items that can be sold for 100k+12e and such. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You have to know, that Vabbian armor is one of the more pricey armors out there. It costs way less then it used to (then 1 gem was closer to 7k and not 3k) but it's still more then 100k.
 * You can earn some money by doing Dungeons like it was already mentioned and Vanquishing areas. Pick up everything the monsters drop, and merch most of them. Also, do all quests if you didn't already. Some of them (especially in Factions and Nightfall) give money rewards, and they provide something interesting to do while killing monsters. This is the most "casual" way of earning money.
 * Another way is opening chests and selling items to other players. this however requires some knowledge about what is sought after, where do the rarer skins drop, and requires luck and patience. It's a good way to earn some money if you're going for the treasure hunter title, but it also requires financial fluidity for Lockpicks. I wouldn't recommend it to you. Not right now at least.
 * Finally there's farming. Making a build (you can find some here) may require buying new armor (like the 130 HP Dervish), and also, it's the most "boring" way of earning money (though some people find it enjoyable) but it's probably the fastest.
 * All in all I'd recommend solution number one to you. Just don't think you'll get it within a day or two (unless you're REALLY lucky :P). &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 15:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There are collectors in the Kodash Bazaar that accept Trade Contracts. The trade contracts may be traded for rubies and sapphires. Do quests in Vabbi to earn trade contracts as quest rewards. Doing that saved me thousands when I bought my vabbian armor. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 15:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Abuse shadow form to farm vast quantities of ectos. Lord of all tyria 15:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Shadow Form isn't in Nightfall, and he's Nightfall-only.
 * But there are a few Dervish farming builds, for core areas like Fissure of Woe and Underworld... if you work your way up to those perhaps, you can make a good amount of gold selling Ectos. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It depends on what you mean by the "best" way to earn platinum. I'm of the view that the best way is to just do whatever missions or quests or whatever you find interesting.  That will get you all the gold you need and a lot you don't in due time.  It's not the fastest way to get gold, but it is the most fun--and that is what makes it the "best".  Quizzical 04:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus you progress through the storyline in that fashion, which is always good. Especially if you're earning up for some endgame items or armors. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  20:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Website for price checking the resale value of items?
How do you know how much an unusual or rare/collectible/ item is worth on the resale market? I'm often picking up green and gold and other coloured items with an ident value of a couple hundred gold but then I see people selling the same item for thousands. I've always just gone through the game selling straight to merchants rather than reselling to individuals and profiting. What's the best way to figure out what I should re-sell to merchats or what I should sell in the markets for a lot more money. Is there a price check website for what the current value of an item is? Khukri 15:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * GW Guru offer an auction buy/sell system, go check their lists out. Otherwise ask random people in public with a price check what they think the price is, dont go by one persons price though, they might try to scam you for a reduced price. -- Xeon 15:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Quests after arborstone/boreas seabed
Hey, im a level 20 ranger and for some reason i cant get the quests after arborstone or boreas seabed, i talked to both of the peaple Guildwars.wikia.com said to and they didnt give me anything so i tried the challenge then talked to them, and no help... BTW i completed the arborstone and boreas seabed missions on masters and survivior the first try if that helps... please help

R/Mo20 John Will Kill You
 * Hey, welcome to GuildWiki. There are 2 quests to get to House Zu Heltzer and Cavalon. Talk to... Jamei in Maatu Keep. Hope that helps. --JonTheMon 20:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Edit: My mistake. After completeing Boreas Seabed, you need the quest City Under Attack --JonTheMon 20:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Reporting
Umm i was scammed off and when i tried to report the person it said he needed to be in teh same district which jsut sucks since he logged off... How do i report someone is not online or in anotehr location? Angelin 17:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you can't. Not with the automated report system at any rate. Unfortunately, scamming is not a reportable offense... as they say, let the buyer beware. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 17:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * , submit a ticket. A-net's usual response to scamming is that its your fault, however. Lord of all tyria 17:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it is your fault for giving him the item... anyway... Follow the link Lord gave you, and submit a support ticked describing what happened, when, where and with whom. Include any screenshots. The scammer will probably get punished, but you won't get your item back, that's for sure. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 18:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Angelin, it's sad you got ripped off/scammed, it cannot be stressed enough, always check exactly what is being offered in the Trade window before clicking the Accept button. There's no clock, timeout period etc, so take your time, if the seller is trying to pressure you into the old "accept quick or I have someone else who will buy it", they probably are trying to scam and hoping to rush you into a unfair trade, it is very much your responsibility as the buyer to take care because are plenty of people who will use the anonymity of the game to get away with unscrupulous actions. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 01:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, see Scam. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It is impossible for the GMs to know if the scam trade was the second part of a multi-account trade, i.e. sometimes people will execute one part of the trade between a pair of characters and then do the other part between the other; and it often happens that one party puts something worthless up to in the hope of escaping automatic RMT detection. So it is quite hard to police these kinds of things. However, the nice part about this is that all you lost is "play money", basically; you're not going to get in financial trouble and lose your apartment or car or whatever, unlike the people who get scammed in the "real life". --◄mendel► 06:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAT IS CODE :013
WHAT IS CODE :013 &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.64.97.164 (contribs) 01:16, 23 June 2008.
 * Guild Wars is currently in a Data Facility Maintenance. Please check for future reference. Error 013 means the game server is having some problems (due to the maintainance) so sometimes people get disconnected or get bad lag.--<font face="Verdana"> franc likes tacos 08:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, check Error, thats where all errorcodes are explained. -- [[Image:merty_sign.gif]]-- ( talk ) 08:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Boss Locations
HEEY! ive been looking for boss locations, because i want to get an elite skill with my sig. of capture, but the problem is that, i cant find such page here in guidwiki, i tried search and i even tried looking for it manually, but can seem to find it. Where can i find such page? --Dervish may 23:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It would probably be easier to find a skill you want first and then find the bosses location from its page.--Land of the Long White Cloud 23:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Elite skills list. Find the elite you want, click on it, and there should be an 'acquisition' section providing links to all bosses that you can capture it from (the boss pages all have maps to the boss's location).  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 23:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

oo ok ill try it, thanks a lot ^^ --Dervish may 23:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

'Hey again... well, i was looking at the elite skills from my previous question, and it did help me a lot. thaats when i remembered, ive been looking forward on changing my second profesion, but each time i see the profession changer in the great temple of balthazar the man tells me that i must be accended higher near the start, or something like that.... but im already a level 20, with max armor and strong weapon, and with many quests done... i dont get why i cant change profession then.. anyone here knows why this guy wont let me?' --Dervish may 23:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to change your second profession for an Assassin or a Ritualist, you might look for the quest Closer to the stars then do the Nahpui Quarter (Mission).. Corsaire 06:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Profession changer
Hey again... well, i was looking at the elite skills from my previous question, and it did help me a lot. thaats when i remembered, ive been looking forward on changing my second profesion, but each time i see the profession changer in the great temple of balthazar the man tells me that i must be accended higher near the start, or something like that.... but im already a level 20, with max armor and strong weapon, and with many quests done... i dont get why i cant change profession then.. anyone here knows why this guy wont let me? --Dervish may 23:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC) (sorry i accidentally added it to my last post)--Dervish may 23:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you need to have completed something far enough into a campaign to be able to change your profession in a campaign. The relevant points are Augury Rock (Prophecies), Nahpui Quarter (Factions), and setting up the Command Post (Nightfall).  Quizzical 00:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep in mind, you need to do more than just reach those locations, for a Tyrian-born character it's Ascension, Canthan-born must achieve the state of Weh no Su, and Elonian-borns need to have completed the Hunted! quest. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 00:34, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well yes, completing Augury Rock makes you "ascended", completing Nahpui Quarter makes you "weh no su", etc. Quizzical 01:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Quiz, my addition was more aimed for Dervish may, ie, didn't want em to think they could walk/run their character to those outposts and "hey presto!" be ascended etc (yes, I've actually had ppl ask me if that's all they had to do :). Though one more thing we should add, for Prophecies (Tyrian-borns), there are quests that can unlock access to other core professions, namely The Warrior's Path, The Ranger's Path etc, which avoids the one-off the other prof changes will charge. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 04:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Walking in guild wars
'is there a way to make ur character walk? i think it would be cool to make my char. walk some times..' --Dervish may 00:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aside from using a skill to self inflict slowdown (Dolyak Signet, Flail) no, sorry. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 00:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

special weekend drops and awards
I really enjoy this game, however i ve participated in 2yrs of special drops. Now ive farmed my butt off sometimes only to get one or two of these special items, on these special weekend events. I hear people dropping out of this game every day if you look in the rooms. I m getting that frustrated with it as well. If you want people to participate in your game and invest this kind of money as i have, my suggestion to you is revamp your quality of drops and frequency. i have all four games linked and i have a blast, but your way out of line here. celgrim
 * As no ArenaNet staff contribute here, your thoughts would be better off listed here, on GWW. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 02:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The right URL is a good thing.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  02:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also; if you farmed and didn't get many special event items, then I'd suggest your farming location is at fault. Although since it is all probability, it is possible that you just had a string of bad luck. (Because all events are mutually exclusive it is actually equally likely that you will get no special drops, or that you will get a special drop from every kill. After you exclude the new zone drop rate thing first) <font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  07:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I recall a post similar to this one about a month ago, with the same focus. My response to this has always been anything times zero is still zero.  Drop rates always stink on most things in the game, (greens, lockpicks, ect) and just because they put into effect a bonus drop weekend, does not mean you will see these items dropping from every foe.  Anet doesn't have to put into effect special weekends for us. They are not obliged to do so, only choose to do so as a reward to players.  Honestly, one should take what they can get, and not expect everything to be handed to them.  Just play the game and have fun.  Don't let some silly drop weekend affect your gameplay. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 07:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

armor levels
Where shoudl I look to find out which armor crafter sells what level of armor? --◄mendel► 10:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The Category:Armor quick references has links to all the profession's crafting quick references. For example, if you needed Dervish armour you would go to Dervish armor crafting quick reference, Dervish collector armor or Common armor crafting quick reference. If you need to find the quick references again there are shortcuts on the individual Profession pages. <font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  11:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to find the crafters themselves then you can simply look at one of the 6 core classes quick references. All armour crafters will be listed by continent in ascending armour level order. <font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  11:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Reputation
So I have 71,000 delver rep. points, and i have a Heroes' Handbook Normal Mode completed. If i give the book to the [talent] guy, i should receive 20,000 points. But after 80,000 points we can only gain points in HM, so, will i get 80,000 points or 91,000 if I deliver the book?


 * You will end up with having 91,000 points. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] - talk 14:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Quest Templates
I am wondering how the Template works for listing quests in a certain town - for instance, in Beetletun, you find the list of quests simply uses "" to list all the quests. Is this a template? - Template:Beetletun/Quests does not exist, so I am confused how the system is working. How does it query the list of quests? Phoenix 19:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's just Beetletun/Quests. If you edit an article, you'll find a link to everything that's transcluded onto the page. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 19:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The : at the beginning means "this is not in Template namespace". You can have templates everywhere, when I develop templates, I test them out in my userspace and call them via . If you have more questions about templates, feel free to use Forum:Coding.--◄mendel► 19:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't use the : on my page, and the "templates" still work. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 21:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You only need a starting : for mainspace transclusions - if you don't give it a namespace, it assumes you want the Template: namespace. The : at the beginning tells it you want a mainspace article.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 22:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Armor
Hello everybody,

I'm kinda new to guild wars, although I'm a lvl 20 monk/warrior and still doing my primary quests. However, I find that all the armor looks the same. Even the names are all the same apart from that the one has better armor than the other for example. The last time I upgraded my armor was in Seitung Harbor (which means I play Factions ^^).

Anyway, the question: Could anyone tell me when I can upgrade it again and if armor will be different looking as I move on in the game?

Thanks.
 * Yes, there is actually a huge selection of different armors you can choose from as you progress through the game. Take a look at Monk armor! The first place you have some nice choices of maximum armor level armor is Kaineng Center. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Another question about armor
Hello again,

So I found the next armor crafter in... uhm, Kaineng Center.

Would it be wise to spend money to buy those sets? Or wait till the next upgrade. (I have like 5k gold which is a shame -.-)
 * Kaineng Center has max armor. So it's the "last" place to upgrade your armor. Unless you want to get Elite armor. --Macros 00:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

PLEASE FIX BUG IN AD TRACKING SCRIPT
The last Script Block is throwing errors on every page. Please Contact me for any details you need.

Because of the bug the Site is EXTREMELY difficult to participate in

RandyPitkin@YDPages.Com
 * Wikia_staff_noticeboard  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 04:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

charracter slots
I have bought 34 slots i use most of them for storage. Your system will not let me buy any more slots. Can i buy another account and how does that work. please respond to my e-mail account masterflrman@yahoo.com
 * Sorry, we are not ArenaNet. You can try contacting them on the Guild Wars Wiki, which is hosted by ArenaNet, or through their support website.
 * In response to your question, though, 34 is the maximum number of character slots any one account can have (2 for creating the account, + 2 for each of the three campaigns = 2+6 = 8, + limit of 26 purchased from the online store = 8+26 = 34). To create a new account, simply purchase a second copy of any of the three campaigns, start Guild Wars and click on "Create account or add access key."  Check the box on the right that says "Create a new Guild Wars account" and click the "Next" button to enter the product key.  After that, it will ask for email address and some other information - the email address you give here must not be the same as the one on your first account.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

No Proffession changer!
I have completed "Hunted!" but there is no proffession changer in command post &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.191.145.137 (contribs).
 * To get the profession trainer, you must complete one (don't remember which) of the quests in The Command Post quest chain --Gimmethegepgun 23:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's the Building the Base: Prisoners of War quest according to the Profession Changer article. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 02:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Double Logging on
What happens if you log onto the same account from two different computers that share an IP address?--Land of the Long White Cloud 03:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The one that was logged in first will get disconnected. Doesn't matter if you share an IP address or not.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually what happens is that when second computer gets past the password check the first computer gets disconnected from the "online" server, that is, that player's status changes to "offline" and he sees "disconnected" when he opens the friends list. As soon as the second computer clicks "play" on the selected character and the level loads, the first computer gets booted out of whatever level it was in. --◄mendel► 21:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Monk needs help!!!
'Hey!! i have a problem, im a monk warrior, and ive been trying to focus on being a healer, but a good one, the problem is that i cant seem to find the right build.. i asked my build, i looked online i tried everything, i have found some interesting ones on the internet, but the BIG PROBLEM is that i only have nightfall.. so all builds i find dont help me at all, i just want to become a monk in wich people ask for ur help on missions and they end happy because they passed something they couldnt do before, so please if u have a great mo/w build ( for nightfall only ) id love it if u could please share it with me, if u dont want to expose ur build, and want to share it privately, im logged in most of the time with the same name i have here thanks' --May monk of healing 20:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Bold and italics? Yuck... Anyway, let's see... If you want to focus on healing, something like this should do: Oh, and of course change into a secondary Elementalist. You can do that in the Command Post.
 * Heal others with skill 1 and 2. heal yourself with 1 and 3 (take into account that 1 and 2 heal more under some ciditions, but don't always try to fulfill them, or someone might die.) Use 4 and 5 on people that are under heavy attack. Use 6 to remove conditions, 7 to help you manage energy, and 8 to resurrect OUT OF BATTLE. Don't res in battle. Never.
 * Now, if you want to go protection (that also heals) use this:
 * I hope it suits you. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 21:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope it suits you. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 21:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope it suits you. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 21:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Poki it did help me a lot thank you rlly ^^ --May monk of healing 22:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

how do you get elite tomes? are some rarer then others?

Elite Tomes
How do I get an elite necromancer tome? I don't want to pay the 8.5k some people ask for them. Also, can tomes only be used for skills already available to you?
 * Any Necromancer boss in Hard mode has a chance to drop elite necro times. You may only use tomes to learn skills unlocked on your account. --Macros 02:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you buy/sell faction points?
Is it possible to sell/buy faction points? If so how? One of the NPC's at House Zu Heltzer alluded to people buying faction points, and I saw someone posting that they wanted to buy faction points. Is it possible? Khukri 12:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the NPC you talk about is not really 'buying' but in exchange for kurzick faction points (there more type of factions) provides you with skills, raising alliance, passage scrolls or amber. The last two may be sold to merch or other people. So, that might be called 'selling faction', although indirectly. There is no way to 'buy' any type of faction or to transfer it from or to another player. You have to 'earn' it yourself, or pay to join faction farmer(s)/runners who will do the 'hard' work for you.-- [[Image:merty_sign.gif]]-- ( talk ) 12:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That's partially right, you can buy or sell Balthazar Faction in the form of Flames of Balthazar and Golden Flames of Balthazar. Buying or selling Luxon/Kurzick faction is indeed not possible. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] - talk 12:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Some Guilds will "buy" faction by giving a player a guest invite to their guild, then paying them for every 5k faction they donate to the guild. Not a very common occurance, but there's a good number of Kurzick or Luxon guilds who will buy faction this way so they can earn up faster (for gaining control of towns and outposts). --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  01:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

HEY!! i made a BIIG MISTAKE and im looking for help!!!
''Hey ^^ last night i went to the store and bought prophecies, and well i was glad cause i wanted them both to create a strongre monk with better skills. the problen now is that its the first time i did and i accidently created a new account out of it instead of adding it to my nightfall key. so i kinda ruined it, and i was hoping someone might know how to help me with this problem, id appreciate it a lot ^^ thx''--May monk of healing 19:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You'd have to file a support ticket with Anet/NCSoft see if they help u out --Balistic Pve (T/C) 19:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The support site --Balistic Pve (T/C) 19:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Plz inform me if they do help you, as I have had to live with a similar mistake. PossessedLinebeck 19:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can only file a support ticket, but... 99% chance that the reply to merge the accounts will be a "no". &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 19:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 100% chance, actually. It's impossible. Tough luck, I'm afraid. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really I know of a friend who merged Nightfall and Prophecies, they disabled the old account and provided a new key for Nightfall. floWenoL 22:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Errors on Every Page from ad banners
Hello,

I notice I am not the only one, but we are getting errors on every page except home. It will start to load, and then go blank and say it is done. It makes it extremely difficult to navigate and read the pages. The only thing we can do is hit back, and that only shows the page about 20% of the time. The other times, it goes back to the home page (or whatever page I had loaded before trying to get to the next one).

Needless to say, it has made it difficult to even get to where I can post this as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Kylynda 17:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing you are using IE. One temporary option is to either use Ad-Block or set wikia-ads.wikia.com to your restricted sites. So yes, I've had that problem also. --JonTheMon 17:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I'm getting the same error as Kylynda. Last night, it would load a page, then go blank, and if I clicked to stop, then it would reload the page and display it properly.  Today, clicking to stop loading a page just seems to reset it, so that it often takes several tries to load a page.  I've tried clearing the cache, and that didn't help.  I'm using Opera, not IE.  Quizzical 18:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well that's interesting. As soon as I made the above post, the problem seems to have fixed itself.  Also, when I logged on today, the wiki displayed for me as Monaco, even though I was logged in.  I checked my preferences, and it said I was using Monobook, and the option to let the wiki default override my preferences was not checked.  When I went back to the home page, it then displayed properly as Monobook again.  Quizzical 18:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It comes and goes, I've had two waves of "fixed" this morning. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Trouble with wiki!
HEY! its me, again... anyways i have another question, and this time it is related with the wiki, i dont understand this web a lot when i try to look for something idk how! i type in search but i dont get what i need, so i need help with that. another thing is that.. i want to start a new character but idk wich to choose, i have only nightfall and GW-EN and i cant make my mind, i know this isnt a real good questions cuz many people would say that its up to me etc.. but idk, i just dk, so i would like it if someone told me of a good character i could use, and the reason y, plz. and last thing i dont have a character yet, at least not yet, sooo once u guys help me choosing one (if u can or want) id like it a lot if u could help me showing me where in this site i can find a good build for it, or the web-link wich would help me def. a lot, if theres no great-one for nightfall and gwen only here in wiki id appreciate any web-link, thanks a lot and sorry for typping sooo MANY questions.. --May monk of healing 00:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

o also im so sorry, whichever character u might have given me, please give me sec. profesion for it =P   thx a lot rlly  --May monk of healing 00:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Go" is used to go into a specific article if you know it's name. "Search" is used to search for a phrase that you know the name of. None of these options help if you don't know what you're looking for. A (very) small discussion about implementing Google search is underway here. In the mean time you can use Google. If you add "site:guildwars.wikia.com" (without the quotes) to your search you can use Googles search help and limit the results to this site. Click me.
 * As for character... you guessed it: "It's up to you". Look at the profession article. After clicking each profession name you'll be taken to a page that has an overview of what the profession is like. Each article also contains a link to a guide that will help you get better and avoid common problems and misconceptions at the bottom (example: Effective warrior guide). Only Ritualists and Assassins are locked to you, since you don't have Factions. Take some time to read that. Think about what playing style you like.
 * You can also just make a PvP-Only character, and battle some NPCs and training dummies. PvP-Only characters start at level 20 and get free equipment and skills as long as you have them unlocked. You can use them as a quick way to check on things.
 * Finally, we don't have builds on this Wiki. You might be interested in PvXwiki. It's a wiki dedicated only to builds, and has a lot of categories so you can find what you like. (Yes, there is a "Nightfall build" category). Note however, that a lot of these builds may not be suited to a beginner, may not suit your style or might have a very specific pourpouse. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 00:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey Poki!!!!! ill thank you for ur answer it helped me alot, again

please i need an answer!!!!!
HI i just need to know how to change a profesion on prophecies, im a lvl 19 ranger --May monk of healing 03:43, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This should help. Take note that Prophecies has Profession changes and attribute quests further in the storyline then other campaigns. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 14:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

need to know the meaning
i plan on making a build i saw on internet, but idk what such word mean, i went int o prophecies build categories, but what do they mean by core? is it like a game version!?!?!? --May monk of healing 03:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


 * A "core" skill is one that is available in all three campaigns. Non-core skills (which includes all skills for the classes not available in Prophecies) can only be learned in one campaign and not in the other two.  Quizzical 05:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Crystalline Skinned Long Sword
Is the Long Sword from the pre-searing quest (with the crystalline skin) upgradeable in such a way that I can put a sword pommel of enchanting and an Icy sword hilt on it? <font color="#220000">ICY <font color="#550000"> F <font color="#990000">IFT <font color="#550000">Y <font color="#220000">FIVE 03:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Reporting Vulgar Comments in My Talk
Just curious; how do I report someone that has made more than one vulgar comment in my talk for no apparent reason? Paladin4212003 23:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)paladin4212003


 * I attempted to take the vulgar coment out of your page. Not much I can do beyond that, as whoever it is is only an IP address. PossessedLinebeck 23:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I have banned the vandal. If you spot another vandal in the future, simply edit their userpage and add  .  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Ishmael. I'm still a bit wet behind the ears, but I'll learn soon enough. PossessedLinebeck 01:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * So cursing on someone else's user page is now a bannable offense? Well then, someone ban Auron.  (First sentence of the last paragraph, which I subsequently filtered, since it's my talk page.)  Quizzical 02:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah, but creating other people's user pages and making them insulting probably is. --◄mendel► 02:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This vandal created multiple pages (both User: and User talk: namespace) with racial slurs as the only content on them. "Standard" swearing in normal comments is not a bannable offense (I do it myself sometimes) unless it becomes excessive or is an obvious personal attack.  Racial slurs or other "extraordinary" swearing is bannable, however.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 13:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

how to quit a guild.....
HOW DO I QUIT OR LEAVE A GUILD???


 * On the Guild Roster [G], you have this little icon infront of your name. Click on that icon, and press the "Leave my Guild" button. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  21:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Three Musketeers
okay.. so you know what that three musketeers kind of sword looks like right...? well, the box of GW:Prophecies shows a mesmer holding one, and im wondering if there is a sword like that in the game. and whats a general price for Emerald Blades?


 * I don't know about the sword and wiki doesn't document prices. You might try guru for prices. <font face = "Matura MT Script Capitals">Silver Sunlight [[Image:SSunlight.jpg|19px]] 14:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The sword was a Rapier... I remember a discussion on the subject a while back. Back in Prophecies, that sword never actually existed (presumably a planned weapon or something). I don't think there are any Rapiers in the game to date, although something like the Runic Blade or Tengu Sword could possibly substitute. (My money's more on the Runic Blade.) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I was looking for similar-looking sword for my own mesmer (since the male animations look a bit like fencing). The Runic Blade is probably the closest you'll get to one besides an Emerald Blade. I went with a plain ol' Highlander Blade just because the Runic Blade is a bit too long. The Jade Sword is also a bit similar, though the green color is a bit distracting. But yeah, you're out of luck if you're looking for something like the Rapier shown on the box.--<font face="Verdana"> franc likes tacos 04:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Festival Prizes - value increase over time?
Over this weekend when it was 'raining' presents from the festivities of the Dragon Festival at Shing Jea Monastery a couple people were saying that if you left the prizes unopened for over 6 months the value would increase to 5k instead of the 1k that you sometimes find in a Festival Prize. I presume this is not true, but thought I'd check here first. Khukri 12:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say its unlikely, could always test it though. Lord of all tyria 12:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've opened Lunar Fortunes a good year after I got them, and the gold prizes were still the same. I'd say it's false information.
 * Another thing that might be mildly important; you can get Victory Tokens from the Festival Prizes, which can only be traded to the festival collectors. Normally a good idea to open the prizes while you can still use the tokens (or you've got to wait until next year's event). --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  01:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I need some help with makeing a paragon and a dervish
I need some seriuose help with makeing a paragon and i dervish but i dont want to make them the at the same time i want to have a paragon/whatever and a dervish/whatever and what i need help with is what would be the best second profession for both of these and what build should i make for them so if you have a reasonable answer for em to be able to make these chars the best they can be then go right a head and answer i will not take any answer as a bad answer as long as it is help ful.

thanks for all the help (Wowoman53189 20:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC))


 * If you don't have an intended use for your secondary profession, then it doesn't matter what you pick. If you pick something and later decide that you have the "wrong" secondary profession and want to change it, that's easy to change later.  Quizzical 21:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * For secondary professions, see Secondary professions for a Dervish and Secondary professions for a Paragon. As for builds, I would suggest making up your own (it's more fun that way IMO, plus you won't need to buy skills) but if you need good builds go over to PvXwiki.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Salvaging mods from weapons and retaining the weapon
Which weapons can you safely salvage the mods from without losing the weapon? Sometimes with various blue/purple/gold weapons I've been able to salvage mods (after identifying) and also retain the same value for the weapon, other times I can salvage 2 mods and the weapon gets destroyed, other times I can only salvage one mod with the weapon being destroyed. Is there any way to tell which ones it's worth it to salvage from. Is there any way to know or is it just the luck of the draw, and if it's just the luck, is it better to sell the weapon whole back to the merchants or try and salvage mods and the weapon for resale. Khukri 11:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no safe weapons which never break when salvaged, as far as I know. However, each rank in Treasure Hunter and Wisdom titles give +3% (base chance is 50%?) higher chance to retain your salvaged weapon. J Striker 12:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Any weapon has the same chance of breaking when you salvage it, no matter the rarity. When you start to salvage an item for it's mods, it'll tell you in the window that you have a 50% chance of destroying the weapon.
 * However, there's always a Perfect Salvage Kit, which never breaks whatever it's salvaging. If you're trying to get an item off a weapon you want to keep, that's the way to go. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  12:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But of course don't use the perfect kits on random drops. Personally, I merch most of the mods (without taking them off the weapon), often even perfect ones. Only a handful of mods have market value worth the trouble. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 12:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly is a perfect weapon, and how do you know if you have one? Thanks for all the input so far, esp with the maths, very interesting. Khukri 04:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well that depends. A lot of people consider a perfect martial weapon to be req9 (or 8, or 7) 20% Sundering, +15% damage while over 50% health, and +30 health, but I generally prefer Furious... in the loosest sense of the word, perfect would mean a particular mod's maximum value. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Salvage Maths
Let's assume you can merch the weapon for 50 and the mod as well once it's salvaged. Then you get 50g if you don't salvage, and if you salvage you get 50g * 50% for the weapon and 50g for the mod, minus 16 for the salvage and 4 for the id on the mod. You now have made 55g on average, that is 5g profit over not salvaging. --◄mendel► 21:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Translation: If the mod is worth more than half the price of the weapon, salvaging is monetarily worth it. That would be nearly any mod, though, with merchant prices so low. Rule of thumb: If it's worth the trouble to sell, salvage the mod. If you can't be bothered, sell the weapon.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Your translation is wrong. For a 50g item (weapon or armor), the mod has to sell for at least 45g to break even in the long run, for a 100g item it is 70g, and for a 200g item it would be 120g. So rule of thumb is, if the mod sells for almost the price of the item or more, it is worth it to salvage.
 * However, my impression is that inscriptions that broke their weapon on salvaging are usually worth more (after identification) than inscriptions where the item didn't break, making salvaging a better proposition than the averages would suggest. I have not done rigorous research on that, though. --◄mendel► 22:49, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Almost the price" is wrong too. Break-even price for mods (in theory) is 50% of the item price plus the 20 gold to identify/salvage it. Overall, though, I wouldn't bother trying to sell anything worth less than 500g (usually 1k), but that's just my personal threshold.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, "50% of the item price plus 20 gold" is entirely correct, but then that's no rule of thumb any more. ;-) Want to go into the numbers for people who rank in wisdom and treasure? Because that is when the "half price" rule of thumb startes getting more attractive. --◄mendel► 23:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 10g for the salvage is usually a better estimate, unless you're very new to the game, or don't have Factions or Nightfall. You get tons of quest reward items that can be turned in for superior salvage kits in the normal course of playing through the game.  Given a choice between selling the kit for 1k or using it to salvage 100 times, the cost of a salvage is 10g.  Quizzical 23:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * (400/25)+(100/25)=20. It's twenty gold to both identify and salvage, and the average player is beyond the "freebies" of the beginning. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  00:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It takes an awfully long time to use up the ~2400 cheap salvages per character that you get from just playing through Factions and Nightfall. I'm pretty sure that that's far more than enough to play enough to get legendary guardian, vanquisher, skill hunter, and cartographer.  Even if you have managed to do that, they're presumably easy enough to buy at slightly over 1k each.  Quizzical 04:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I burned through 6 expert kits a day. What is that, 150 uses? That's 20 days worth of freebies, at least for me, and then I'm out for that particular character. And then you have to factor in that many of the quests that offer the things needed to trade for each kit are fairly spread out, and many optional, and you get even fewer people who collect all the "freebies". In many cases, time is more valuable then gold, but I digress. The point here is that the average salvage-kit buying player will need to take into account those maths, because it's unlikely that they still have the free kits. And if they did have the free kits, then they probably wouldn't be here, reading about cost effectiveness. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  04:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * How do you have 150 salvage kit uses per day? I'd probably have to spend most of the day playing the game to get 150 salvageable drops (which I don't have time for), and the bulk of the salvageable drops I do get are identified and then vendored rather than salvaged, because they're worth more that way.


 * But regardless, they're surely easy to buy. I see people spamming trade channels all the time trying to buy quest reward items.  Only infrequently will someone offer 200g each for them (other than for trade contracts) to match the vendor value, and it is exceedingly rare for anyone to offer more than that.  Quizzical 05:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Buying from players is awkward, it comes back to the whole "how much is your time really worth" point. It doesn't really matter, you're arguing a point entirely different from the one set forth in this section, the cost per kit vs. the worth of using it. You are over-complicating a simple equation by adding in more variables and "what-ifs". The point here is that each salvage + id, based on static market worth is exactly 20 gold, therefore, an item is only worth salvaging if the mod is worth 20+50% of the item's worth. Math is not open to interpretation, numbers are, strictly speaking, numbers. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  05:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)