User talk:Suicidal Tendencie/Boss

Lol, what? What? 38? That's it, where's the suicide function (besides resign) in GW? I'd rather kill myself and save this thing some minor annoyance, even without skills :P --El_Nazgir 21:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. It's not just /resign. The same effect can be achieved with /giveup. And you're welcome before you thank me for this helpful imformation. -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 21:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * If it wasnt for the thousand Grawl he's a pussy :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  16:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Still, even his wanding would deal 300 damage 0.o But he seems to be a bit lacking in the looks healing department (well, maybe looks too). Yeah, he's got life transfer, which is pretty nice, but outdamaging 10 regen isn't too hard.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 16:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * lolwut? (no pun intended actually, I typed it before noticing, lol) healing? he has an army of healers with him, looks? if he asked you if he was good looking, with all his grawl buddies... I think you'd say yes... -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 22:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait, I thought you got all the regen from Transfer? So degening is unlikely, you'd need to truly outdamage the regen, and with all those healers... -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 22:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Meh, ball 'em up and make em burn. Then just bash his face in. Also, although you get the stacked benefit from Life Transfer, the AoE is minimal and Hex removal still exists. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  14:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ball 'em all up? How's that? Moar info plzkthz -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 16:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Use a perma sin as your tank, and give him a bit of healing and tell him to put them all adjacent to eachother, so you can take 'em out with a few nukers. Dont forget to bring a bigass snare. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 16:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * There's like 50 Grawl. One dude goes in to aggro (protted up like fuck; PS, SB, SH, SB2.. Cover SB2 with a useless ench btw; lame update is lame ;) ), and all the Grawl Wars are in the same spot. Synch cast RoJ (5 or 6 people at once) and there's no chance they'll survive. Then just target the Rit Grawl, followed (quickly) by the Necros. Done. Then you have a wimpy Boss all alone :) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  16:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I've gotten rid of the perma aspect. I'll improve it later so that I don't have half the healers with 0 energy. Viper... I'll... think of something tbh. (Probably add a few Nightmares, Rend ftw tbh) One last thing, remember. This is in UW, don't start coming out with ideas that wouldn't get you past the Aatxe + Grasping, etc. -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 18:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Nazgir, I trust the note I have regarding the Mursaat was not lost on you :) -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 20:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've seen the note, and I can't wait for Nazgir the Divine to kick this oversised Grawl's but. Huge hordes of grawl? Np: spectral agony, shockwave, double dragon and star burst and they're all dead (prolly don't even need star burst anymore). --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 20:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Intrawebbie eating posts ftl, how? Nazgir is constantly blinded and dazed, I've twelve healers. That equates to just the one possible outcome as far as I can tell... --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 17:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

? / 5 for name
All vote now! (please) -->Suicidal Tendencie 23:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC) =)
 * Oh c'mon, please? Anyone? -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 12:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I like to vote, but what is the thing I will be voting for ? Don't get it. (That will probably disqualifies me to vote, does it ?)-- [[Image:merty_sign.gif]]-- ( talk ) 12:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah Merty, it's not really a vote (no poll) I'd just like some feedback on the name if you don't mind :) -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 12:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * A wonderfull 4. You made me giggle. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 16:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I must say, it's truely worthy of being a grawl name. 4.5/5 (I don't give max score easily).--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 17:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanx :D -->Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 18:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thought about it. The name deserves an 4.2/5. It is a good find. Almost the same as Molotov Rocktail. But no 5/5 because, well, who wants to have 'lol' as first name ? (especially a bad ass boss like this...no drops, cheating with two elites, to many 'friends'...no thanks...)-- -- ( talk ) 14:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ty Merty :) I appreciate you taking the time to think about it --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 21:53, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

sig of disenchanting
You should give it to the champions instead of the priests. The champions only have 1 energy skill, and the rest is adrenaline. It won't really affect them, while seriously boosting the priest's healing and stuff because they don't lose their energy every 15 seconds.--El_Nazgir 17:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Every 15 seconds? No res shrines in UW, and once SF is removed once... that really is only an anti-SF skill --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 22:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * But they'll use it whenever it's recharged :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  22:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It's called cover enchantments. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 07:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * But still. If the party somehow survives (maybe not using SF), the healer's energy will constantly be drained, as they remove every enchantment the party throws up. Oh and arnout, 12 cover enchantments every 15 seconds? Wow.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 10:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Dwayna's Sorrow, Death Nova... Yeah. 12 Cover Enches <3 --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  11:11, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't forget you still have to clear the entire UW with your group.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 11:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Which isn't all that hard, tbh. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  11:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Lolz at myself. 12 covers every 15 sec? Thats bad. Yeah. Well, Is there something that can block that much signets? Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 14:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps an extremely well timed Cry of Frustration? And only if they all use it at the same time.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 15:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You can have a mesmer spam their brains out on CoF and Tease, put CoF on some casters (if you have any), maybe toss some Meteors around. They'll most likely use it on random targets anyhow. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  16:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This is really starting to go postal...
 * 1) Stop thinking about a group that will stop them healing.
 * 2) Start thinking about a group that will manage to heal enough, before worrying about dishing out damage.
 * 3) As pointed out, your group will have to do all of UW too, this isn't me trying to act omgwtf1337, just limiting the silly options slightly.
 * 4) I'll change some Warriors for AoE... possible PBAoE but not sure, and most likely Eles. --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 17:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Make sure the boss starts dropping something, cause killing this dude for nop would be a giant waste of time ;/ Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 17:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This isn't a boss I'm asking to be added to the game Arnout... it's lolwutOP intentionally, he hasn't dropped anything, because he himself hasn't been dropped killed, if you don't know the expression and thus it's to be addded.
 * Also folks, please remember, AoE daze, have fun with casting Shadow Form or Ray of Judgement --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 17:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Fyi, UW is loleasy to go through; you don't even need anything special for it. And if noone has killed him yet, everyone sucks. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  18:03, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * How does that mean everyone sucks? I keep changing the rules (skills) so it's impossible to win when you can't be sure of what you're up against. And if I heard you were giving it a shot, I'd give him the shout: "U R NOOB!", which targets and instantly kills the nearest Server. And I've been to UW btw =/ --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 18:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Update camping ftw; Just don't restart GW and nothing changes <3 Also, you might've been to UW, but that doesn't make it hard. Making the right team setup makes it easy, tho, and working in a few extras to roflstomp this guy isn't difficult. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  19:29, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That you have to do the UW first is not me trying to sound "omgwtf1337" I'm just trying to limit the amount of... uhhm... silly suggestions --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 23:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Moar Melee
You may have noticed that blind is not hard to remove (various Signets, amongst other things) and that a large part of the team build here is anti-caster. (What I would only class as immense Enchantment hate as well as the daze punishing casters, who are less likely to have signets and more likely to attempt to use a spell to remove conditions.)

This isn't a deliberate ploy to get more Warrior-only teams or anything like that, it's just undeniably, the vast majority of the team builds in area like UW are a matter of getting your Monk / Ele / Necro the relevant PvXWiki build and heading off. While I'm not trying to dictate the professions, I am making an effort to annhilate the chance of such teams killing this guy, and until I can find different methods which 1 by 1 take team builds out of the equation, it'll have to be a omgwtflolmoarhigh level boss with a small legion of mates (aggro one, aggro them all, no clever Longbow tactics) who can stop most (all?) team builds in their tracks. As I said, I will endeavor to improve this if possible. --> Suicidal Tendencie 17:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Although packing a longbow wouldn't do any harm, if you have 2+ casters, you'll want to use it. Otherwise, by looking at the map supplied, you'll see the casters will be squeezed into a bottleneck, which is an anti-cryer build tactic. And, since I've already given them too much, I think I'll try Signet of Sacrifice/Meteor Shower Eles, who if not interrupted, will seal the fate of Cryers trying to do it PvXWiki way. --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 17:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)