Talk:Game updates/20070111

Skill Changes
Some skills got ninja-nerfed. See Twisting Fangs (searching for more atm). --8765 17:56, 11 January 2007 (CST)
 * Ahhh why :( Shield bash FTW &mdash; Skuld 17:57, 11 January 2007 (CST)

The description has been changed. The new description notes no bonus damage. Tested it and it was doing normal damage and effects. but the description is still different. Its either a bug or a sign of an upcoming nerf as there were no nerfs in the update notes. --Midnight08 (talk|contribs) 18:01, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Wild Strike was changed to - Off Hand Attack. Use this after a Dual Attack +25 Damage. Any Stance being used by target enemy Ends. Havent tested it yet--Midnight08 (talk|contribs) 18:09, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Wow. They really screwed up HBs... --Immure 18:12, 11 January 2007 (CST)
 * woohoo, true 1v1=P--Midnight08 (talk|contribs) 18:18, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Note : Twist fangs french description has not changed at all.

jungle strike is nerfed :/ and all off hand attack wording looks funny :/--Blade (talk|contribs) 18:17, 11 January 2007 (CST)

ohh and caltrops got a sexy "range 500'"--Blade (talk|contribs) 18:20, 11 January 2007 (CST)
 * the range 500 is Half spell range it seems. --Midnight08 (talk|contribs) 18:25, 11 January 2007 (CST)

I can confirm that Twisting Fangs still has its +damage. And Jungle Strike's conditional +damage was not lowered all that much... Capcom 18:21, 11 January 2007 (CST)

 EQ didn't change, DS did. Ashblash also got changed. WTF >_> -Ichigo724 18:24, 11 January 2007 (CST)

I'm sure most of these "changes" are just errors that will be fixed --FireFox  18:26, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Let's not make a list in the article, just put that some descrips have changed ?

I think the range 500' thing just disappeard, but then again that was like 5 times scorpion wire anyway and that cant be right XD. And ye for the list gone way to many have changed.--Blade (talk|contribs) 18:30, 11 January 2007 (CST)

blinding power desc has changed &mdash; Skuld 18:32, 11 January 2007 (CST)

arc lightning and gust's descriptions were improved by a badly trained monkey &mdash; Skuld 18:33, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Yeah, several of em look awkward and unnatural, I'm hoping for a game RV :p -Ichigo724 18:34, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Taking a look at the screenshots posted (I can't log into GW from work), I'd say it was an error where someone used a bad machine translator and substituted that file for the good one. Lojiin 18:35, 11 January 2007 (CST)

critical eye is just...ugh--Blade (talk|contribs) 18:36, 11 January 2007 (CST)

I'm not having any problem in Hero Battles, I've just played a match that worked perfectly. Ericdanie 18:40, 11 January 2007 (CST)
 * They just fixed themselves --FireFox [[Image:firefoxav.gif]] 18:41, 11 January 2007 (CST)

The skills just look like a raw version, used for testing on quick reference, and it seems to have accidentally leaked to the update. Some have changed, so it may be an accidental forthcoming of a skill balance update, but I think they will revert that. These look like... data. Not very RPGish... not very RPGish at all... &mdash; Poki#3, 18:45, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Ive not found ANY skill operation diffrent yet--Blade (talk|contribs) 18:59, 11 January 2007 (CST)

Echoing
Anyone notice the crazy echoing going on in Crevice or is it just me for this run? It seems a bit overdone like a bug, but maybe it was on purpose. --RabiesTurtle 21:10, 11 January 2007 (CST)


 * No, but I just resigned from Dunes of Despair and when we died, it sound sounded like 100 things at once had died, it was much louder than normal and sounded very different than the normal sound of death. --Mwpeck 22:03, 11 January 2007 (CST)
 * The one I am talking about was more of an echo like in a cave. It sounded fine actually for a cave echo... but for a game it was rather strong.  Realistic though.  I don't recall it till halfway through the mission though, so could be a bug despite the significance of the echo in a cave being fitting.--RabiesTurtle 23:30, 11 January 2007 (CST)
 * I've had that happen to me in some other mission the day before yesterday. I think it was Consulate Docks. &mdash; Stylva  (talk)(contribs) 06:06, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * Turning off EAX Support fixed the echo for me - it appeared in some GvGs I observered.
 * I've also had this super anoying echoing, which only stopped after a rezone (i was running someone to LA and in the swamp zone it instantly appeared O_o)--&#124;\/&#124; /-\ &#39;&#39;&#124;&#39;&#39; 16:04, 12 January 2007 (CST)


 * Had that thing too many times even long before last update. I decided to turn off EAX permanently.  Beside, i never liked thoses echoes anyway.  I turn off all game music and put my own music most of the time and echoes dont go well with Amy Lee... TulipVorlax  P.S.: Forgot to log in..

"Fixed ... bypass teleportation portals"
Do we know what kinds of teleportation portals cannot now not be bypassed. By "some" players, does that mean all that knew how? Does this mean that assassins and the like are unable to shadow step past zone portals to explore what they shouldn't be able to reach on the other side? -- Dashface  06:28, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * I think so... people should test this thourly... It may also mean simple walking through a portal, but not being teleported, as happened to me once when I tried to exit Unwaking Waters (Kurzick). I passed the portal and could walk away till the edge of the world :P &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 06:36, 12 January 2007 (CST)


 * The assassin trick where you flagged henchies through the portal and then shadow stepped to them was fixed with the release of Nightfall (henchies now teleport back to your location when you try to flag them into a portal). If that is what you are talking about. - Former Ruling 15:58, 12 January 2007 (CST)


 * But mobs could sill pass through it, and you could Shadow step to them, or teleport to there bodies. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 17:00, 12 January 2007 (CST)

Hmm, I wonder if this has anything to do with the slight weirdness I have noticed while zoning. Since this update when walking through portals to change the area, you can see for a brief time, just right before the loading screen appears, your character warping back to wherever you started in that area. So basically it's not letting you walk through the portal to the other side.
 * (Just created an account, the above text is mine by the way. Still new to this stuff.) Taala 19:32, 12 January 2007 (CST)

Hero Panel/Faction Points
I quickly went through and fiddled with the language settings; it seems that almost all of the languages (except for Japanese) have been affected. Zeroping 03:18, 15 January 2007 (CST)

Balthazar Faction cap in Training Arena / Zaishen Challenge
Has the max Balthazar Faction that can be earned in Training Arena / Zaishen Challenge been doubled again (to 4000) now? I'm sure it was 2000 during the week before the 01/11 update but today I was able to get up to 4000.

Tyria Missions
Dunes of Despair and Thirsty River missions (mostly involving the bonus) have changed as of this update (no changes on Jan 10 (did them both that day), new changes in effect after Jan 11). It is now very hard to get bonus in Thirsty, and more difficult in Dunes. See the talk pages for those missions for details. Queen Schmuck 16:39, 17 January 2007 (CST)