User talk:130.58

I've started dumping old, inactive threads into an archive (streamed rather than segmented).

Summary of old threads:
 * W/R Build: See Talk:W/R Axe Poisoner.
 * Skill box voting: I voted for skill boxes.
 * Is this an account?: Yes, yes it is.
 * Nice work on your user page: Some friendly folks commented on my user page.
 * Great pics, thanks for the comments too: Unchain and I saying "hi" to each other.
 * No problem: Chuiu friendlily forgives my stupidity.
 * Hey now: Gares gave me swag.
 * dye: A thing I never got around to doing with Honorable Sarah. Then they added dye preview, making it moot.
 * Consider this my rant box for pet peeves: I complain about something, then complement Nilles on his wonderful user page.
 * N/Me Prophecies SS Necromancer: Request for a vote.
 * Complications in build vetting: What the name says.
 * Contact: Gares says hi.

''Comments are answered often, and happily. Feel free to add some below...''

Build:W/Mo Vital Backbreaker
Thats extremely old and been unfavored for a while now :P --Blastedt(Talk) 17:08, 16 December 2006 (CST)
 * Builds flip-flop between categories all the time (and not just with purges like the one Skuld et al. are working on now). I extra-unfavor or extra-favor anything I see where I have clear and obvious thoughts about the concept. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 17:25, 16 December 2006 (CST)
 * >.> --Blastedt(Talk) 17:45, 16 December 2006 (CST)

EDS (moved comment)
Question: Is your guild a full PvE? When you say elite missions, it's everything from Urgoz to DoA right? Or are you currently doing DoA now? I'm caught in between worlds! PvE or PvP.... *sigh* Was just curious.--Sairier 13:33, 18 December 2006 (CST)
 * EDS mostly does PvE stuff. We're actually pretty nicely represented on the wiki -- you probably see Gares everywhere, and Aratak's monk's tattooed hand appears in a lot of item pictures. The elite missions were with a mixed group, though, not just guildmates -- probably half and half, organized through one particular friend (but non-member) of the guild. I'm personally taking a break from such stuff because of, well, classes. The alliance we're in has some alliance AB groups going, too. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 14:08, 18 December 2006 (CST)

New builds policy proposal
Hi. As somebody who has made several contributions to the discussion at GuildWiki talk:No Original Builds I just wanted to draw your attention to an alternative policy I've proposed at Build Split. If you've got the time I'd be very grateful if you could give it a read through and leave any comment you may have on its talk page. Thanks! --NieA7 10:42, 19 December 2006 (CST)

The Userbox invasion
OH NO!!!!!!!! It has begun =) --Midnight08 14:56, 20 December 2006 (CST)
 * Oh, noes!! And you started it! This shall not go unpunished, I promise (translation: I have a screwy idea that I'm too busy to work on right now; wait and see). &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 00:47, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Removal of offensive comments
Just for the record, didn't want our precious admins being insulted. =P &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 22:21, 21 December 2006 (CST)

Build:W/any Flailing Dragon
Would you mind if I made some minor changes? I've never thought that just two attack skills is enough for PvE, especially two rather adrenaline costy ones. I was thinking, why not just drop Enraging Charge completely and take like Sever Artery + Gash in the optional, or even Distracting Blow and Silverwing Slash? Moving targets usually isn't a problem in PvE. "For Great Justice!" isn't really needed with IAS (PvE builds usually have just one or the other), and you could place another utility skill (your condition removal). Lastly, just wondering if you would mind making it W/Mo, since we need a good NF Pally build in our Warrior section. Thanks! =) &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 00:34, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * Have you tried the combo as written? You can replace Enraging Charge with something else, but Flail + FGJ is the core of the build. That's how you spam 20 attacks -- all of them attack skills -- during the time that FGJ is up (during that burst of power, every DS charges a Sun/Moon and vice versa, with copious opportunities to activate Lion's Comfort in between). Conventional wisdom aside, not having IAS means you're wasting FGJ completely. With the ease at which 5 out of the 10 existing classes spread conditions (and four of those are great with Deep Wounds), I don't see a strong reason to trade damage output for more condition spam.
 * Also: it's not a Nightfall build. Both attack skills are Factions-only. You don't want to make it a pally since you won't be bringing condition removal if you're on a strong team (a monk can easily cover that for trivial energy cost, and Blind is the only troublesome condition).
 * Now, builds posted to Guildwiki are community projects. You can go ahead and change it if you really want to. I won't throw a fit. But you're basically saying "make it a generic (PvP) Dragon Slasher with Lion's Comfort instead of Healing Signet". Why bother? &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 03:36, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * Woah, hold on there, you're going a mile a minute. =P All I said that since you have an optional, it would be better to just put Mending Touch in there, since people are always looking for a good Wammo build to use. It's definately not going to be a generic PvP Dragon Slasher. I've tried it with the current setup, and found it better to have more attack skills that deal even more damage, since IAS is already available to you. Other attacks such as the ones I mentioned, would increase the effectiveness of the build in PvE; the faster the kills, the better. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 14:24, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * Isn't a W/any good enough for a paladin build, though? I mean, it says "any"...
 * Hmm... you should be spamming just the two attacks while FGJ is up, but I can see a third there. Adrenaline-based to take advantage of Dragon Slash (though we can use an energy attack since the energy gain with a zealous sword is pretty crazy). For our purposes, Standing Slash is decent.
 * I actually want to try and put Steelfang in there, but that's an entirely different build... &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 15:20, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * That's an excellent suggestion. Standing Slash is practically made for these builds. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 15:23, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Current experiment:

Now the Optional gets Lion's Comfort, condition removal, or a utility skill, but the standard build is Strength and Swordsmanship only. However, we just traded some survivability for damage. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 17:04, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * I was thinking of replacing FGJ, but go on. =) &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 17:05, 27 December 2006 (CST)

130.58!?!?
I have the same starting IP! (Not now, most of the time...) I wonder why... Just saying hi that's all. Also, why were you awake two and a half hours ago is beyond me... Jiang 05:58, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * I'm onto you! I still have that picture! Err, somewhere. Okay, so I can't find it right now. But, needless to say, I still have it! Let's do Sunjiang together today or tomorrow. ;) &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 15:29, 27 December 2006 (CST)

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Thanks for the advice! Ayumbhara 05:36, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * No problem. ;) &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 05:38, 2 January 2007 (CST)

User box compo
Hi. I just put the official winners box on the competition page. Hope you like it! -- (talk) 16:06, 2 January 2007 (CST)
 * Thanks. I'm pleased that you liked my boxes. I'm not sure whether I'll be putting that box you made up on my page (not sure what my page is gonna look like at this point), but it is rather pretty. ;) &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2007 (CST)
 * They were great! Thanks for taking part and ofcourse you don't need to use the box if it doesn't fit your page. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 18:42, 3 January 2007

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Wrong User
Hi. I just helped another user put his build in the untested category, but the page's history says you did, and it is showing up in your user contribs. Is this a bug? - Krowman  03:15, 14 January 2007 (CST)
 * Err, no, I did that. If you save the same changes as I did, it might just ignore them. When I looked at it, the template inclusion was still in HTML comment tags, which is what I fixed. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 03:17, 14 January 2007 (CST)
 * Crazy. That's exactly what I did. The user had inserted the untested template with those surrounding it, I just removed them. I didn't get an edit conflict saying someone else had edited the page while I was, although we were both making the exact same edits. Must just be good timing then. Thanks. -[[Image:Spiked Eggnog.jpg|19px]] Krowman [[Image:Spiked Eggnog.jpg|19px]] 03:20, 14 January 2007 (CST)

Title Fix
Thanks ~ Pae 20:14, 26 January 2007 (CST)

Thank you so much
thanks for removing the delete notice, it's kinda too late though, entropy's already vowed to leave the build section forever :(:(:( &mdash;Blastedt&mdash; 17:36, 27 January 2007 (CST)


 * Yeah. Thanks 130. At least you've got some sense in your head. And I'll accept your Unfavored vote, it's very well thought out and you have a good point. Entropy 18:02, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * An obviously-good-faith, non-derivative, correctly-set-up article should not be delete. "Obvious," as the template says. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 18:08, 27 January 2007 (CST)