User:Mendel/wikianswers kappa shell drama

I have been called a page move vandal over the following proceedings. Some admin experience with wikis is necessary to understand the technicalities, which are, in fact, important. It may be easier to read this page in source form because then the lines wrap.

answers:Wikianswers:Simplified_ruleset contains AGF and BE BOLD.

answers:Wikianswers:Candidates for speedy deletion: You can consider turning problematic pages into relevant redirects as an alternative to deletion. It links to Help:Vandalism, which states: it is a deliberate attempt to damage the usefulness of content for others. I never did that.

On WikiAnswers, the main namespace is used for policy questions, as answers:Category:WikiAnswers shows. Redirecting pages to a question that explains what's wrong with them has been done with many pages that redirect to "Why was my question redirected here".


 * To understand the following exchange, it is necessary to know that "Kappa Shell" and "Ancient Kappa Shell" are two different objects in the game Guild Wars, which GuildWiki is about.

7 June 2009
02:11 	(Rename log). . 67.103.3.26 (Talk) moved Ancient kappa shell to What is a kappa shell
 * At this point, the question is still unanswered.

10 June 2009
(cur) (prev) 18:41, 10 June 2009 M.mendel (Talk | contribs) m (5,920 bytes) (→when rephrasing a question is a bad idea:  new section) (undo)
 * I start a discussion on "User talk:Molokaicreeper" about the disadvantage of rephrasing pages that were created by entering search times by assigning them meaning that the creator never intended. I omit the discussion that takes place.

(cur) (prev) 19:13, 10 June 2009 M.mendel (Talk | contribs) m (68 bytes) (undo)
 * I answer "Ancient kappa shell" over the redirect; if the original poster (58.174.25.230) had it bookmarked, he's going to find this answer. The question is of May 23rd, so it's unlikely they'll come back to check it, though.

19:13, 10 June 2009 M.mendel (Talk | contribs) moved What is a kappa shell to Why do editors change the meaning of teh question when renaming it ? 19:31, 10 June 2009 M.mendel (Talk | contribs) moved Why do editors change the meaning of teh question when renaming it to Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it ?
 * Since the original poster is an anon who doesn't have a watch list, and his original question has been answered under its original name, I figure nobody is going to miss this question (which is misnamed anyway), and its history provides context for my question. Asking questions to clarify policy issues is common practice on WikiAnswers, as a quick glance at answers:Category:WikiAnswers shows.
 * '''At this point, the articles involved are "Ancient kappa shell", which I have answered, and "What is a kappa shell" and "Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it", which redirect to "Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it"; the latter is an unanswered question.


 * Also, a similar set of edits are performed on "Bolts of Cloth": On 15:09, 10 June 2009, I answer the original "Bolts of Cloth" over its redirect; 19:32, 10 June 2009 I link "Where can I find Bolts of cloth" to "Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it".

(cur) (prev) 22:02, 10 June 2009 Angela (Talk | contribs) (7,863 bytes) (→when rephrasing a question is a bad idea) (undo)
 * Angela replies to the discussion on "User talk:Molokaicreeper".

22:09 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) deleted "Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it" (content was: 'Category:un-answered questions') 22:50 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) restored "Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it" (2 revisions restored) 22:50 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) deleted "What is a kappa shell" (Deleted to make way for move) 22:50 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) moved Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it to What is a kappa shell [redirect suppressed] 22:51 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) deleted "What is a kappa shell" (content was: 'Category:un-answered questions Category:GuildWiki') 22:51 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) restored "What is a kappa shell" (2 revisions restored)

(cur) (prev) 22:51, 10 June 2009 Angela (Talk | contribs) (35 bytes) (Redirected Ancient kappa shell to What is a kappa shell) (undo) 22:53, 10 June 2009 Angela (Talk | contribs) deleted "Why do editors change the meaning of teh question when renaming it" ? (content was: '#REDIRECT Why do editors change the meaning of the question when renaming it' (and the only contributor was 'M.mendel'))
 * Angela has now un-asked my question, deleting revisions that show my involvement, and put everything back the way it was before I became involved.

"Talk:What is a kappa shell": (diff) 23:09, June 10, 2009. . M.mendel (Talk | contribs | block) (100 bytes) (for Fs sake, you CHANGED teh m,eaning liek OI worte, you dont ask, you just change it back,. These things are DUFFERENT and this makes us look like fools tyvm)
 * Obviously I am quite agitated at this point.


 * Somewhere around now I answer "What is a kappa shell" with a link to GuildWiki.


 * I am removing the redirect on "Ancient kappa shell" again and put up an answer (again):

(cur) (prev) 23:13, 10 June 2009 M.mendel (Talk | contribs) m (45 bytes) (undo)


 * At this point, the articles involved are "Ancient kappa shell" and "What is a kappa shell", and I have edited them to have links to the appropriate pages on GuildWiki. "Talk:What is a kappa shell" contains my agitated rant.

23:15 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) moved What is a kappa shell to What is an Ancient Kappa Shell in GuildWars [redirect suppressed] 23:15 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) moved Talk:What is a kappa shell to Talk:What is an Ancient Kappa Shell in GuildWars [redirect suppressed] 23:16 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) deleted "What is an Ancient Kappa Shell in GuildWars" (content was: ' Category:GuildWiki Category:gaming Category:answered questions') 23:16 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) restored "What is an Ancient Kappa Shell in GuildWars" (2 revisions restored) 23:20 . . Angela (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:What is an Ancient Kappa Shell in GuildWars" (not related to this page)
 * Angela has realized and rectified her mistake, and deletes all traces again.

Revision history of "What is an Ancient Kappa Shell in GuildWars" (cur) (prev) 22:53, 10 June 2009 Angela (Talk | contribs) (210 bytes) (undo) (cur) (prev) 14:40, 23 May 2009 58.174.25.230 (Talk) (57 bytes) (new question)

The following questions were asked by me in answers:Category:Joeyaa Wiki. Less than a day later, they're gone, although 3 have been answered, one by Joeyaa himself. The rationale? "inappropriate personal questions about other Wikia users". Since Joeyaa was aware of the questions and has admin priviledges on WikiAnswers, it seems safe to assume that he would have deleted them himself had he deemed them inappropriate.
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "When did Joeyaa start editing wikis" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "What kind of music does Joeyaa listen to" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "What is Joeyaa's favorite food" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "Is Joeyaa still single" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "If Joeyaa was an actor, who would he be" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "How old is JoeyAA" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "Has Joeyaa ever seen the ocean" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "Can Joeyaa sing well" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "Where does Joeyaa live (approximately)" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "What wikis is Joeyaa an admin on" ?
 * 01:49, 14 June 2009 Delete page script (Talk | contribs) deleted "What category gets added to questions from Joeyaa Wiki" ?