Talk:Team strategy

Umm, Ok. Let's try again:

This page is waaay too over-ambitious. :) A single article on strategies in the game is going to be HUGE. this article should be cut up into smaller articles and guides. The section provided about specialization and covering more areas can be moved to the Build Guide. --Karlos 20:22, 10 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * Much better. And, agreed.  However, I believe an article with this title has merit to discuss how strategies, in general, are used in game, without referencing any specific ones. &mdash;Tanaric 20:49, 10 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * Yeah, but I don't think that's what Ollj is doing. :) --Karlos 06:21, 11 Aug 2005 (EST)

Came across this article. Sorry, but this is horrible. There are so many rules of thumb and generalisations used that in some parts the article is just plain wrong: Stuff like that does not belong in a wiki that wants to be takes seriously... --Xeeron 01:22, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)
 * "n case you didn't notice, since the secondary class almost doesn't matter"
 * "It's plain stupit to target the monks first"
 * "Conclusion:Have every primary class once and no class more often than twice in a team!"
 * "Primary class skills count 3-7 times as much as secondary class skills"


 * We are not a site, we are a wiki. If you disagree with Ollj's tactics (in which case you'll be in a lot of company), post why you believe these tactics are false. Overall, I think this article should be deleted for incoherence and incompleteness. It is natural when talking about strategies and tactics that people will differ. This is why I prefer we link to such things on external sites rather than have an "edit war" or, God forbid, a revert war!! :) That being said, there is no faulting for someone who wants to make a guide. Don't like his, make yours.. If his remains incomplete (and its hit count is minimal) we can make a case that it should go. --Karlos 08:11, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * I would agree with murdering this article in its sleep. --Fyren 08:17, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * Well there is so much wrong with this article (and yes maybe I'll find the time to write something better). First of all of the points that I listed above are clearly wrong:

Or to cut a long list short: His article should not be called "strategy", but rather "Ollj's take on what I think is the right build" and not only do I disagree a lot with his opinion, it should not be in a wiki article. I put it in here first, because it is generally rude to undo others articles, but this one is a big candidate for deletion IMHO. --Xeeron 10:36, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)
 * Secondary classes DO matter. A lot. Several builds totally rely on the secondary class (see IWAY)
 * In 80% of the cases it makes sense to target monks
 * His conclusion is absurd. Many successful builds run more than 2 idential characters.
 * How on earth did he come up with the value of 3-7?


 * I don't think you understand my point. First of all, this specific artilce is, as I already said, incoherent lignuistically and incomplete contextually. The language is hard to read and the context intended by the author is not all there. So, it is very valid to erase it. So, stop trying to convince me it should go. You maybe unaware of my history with Ollj articles, but I find the idea that someone might think I am defending this article very funny. :)
 * In any case, my point is... That article is burried and not many people run into it. It does provide a starting point (albeit bad and broken). You rewrote it into a single general paragraph that actually offers a lot less than what was there. --Karlos 13:36, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)