User talk:Dirael

"that was a formatting fix"
What? 23:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * He typed "#..." rather than "# (your vote here)" . Besides, I doubt he'd oppose someone who he said he'd probably promote on IRC. --Shadowcrest 23:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But the fact remains that he was the one who posted it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Then what would be the point of moving it down and not signing it a second time? Not to mention Ishmael added it too. --Shadowcrest 00:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The original "#(your vote here)" was removed by Shadowphoenix, after which Auron added the "#..." instead. I simply moved it back to the bottom because other people had ignored it and left it up in the middle of everything.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I belive I see. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Gazooks, I missed that. I'd thought that Auron's first edit was the moving. He's been watching the page all along, but not indicating any opinion. Weird. --mendel 05:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Auron's opinion was very clearly stated on IRC the other day: Phalange is a "good friend" who Auron knows would "do the right thing for the wiki". Which, as we've seen, means we can't have fun anymore.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 13:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting that Phalange has stated on Banjthulu's talk page that Auron is no friend of his. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 13:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Wounding Strike/Reaper's Sweep
Which is better (usually)? Reaper's Wounding --Shadowcrest 01:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I need these to prove to my friend that one certain imba skill is better than the other, btw. --Shadowcrest  02:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There's... no real comparison. Wounding is currently better than Eviscerate. Reaper's wasn't even in the same league before Wounding got buffed, now it's severely underpowered (comparing it to the severely imba wounding). Both need to be removed from the game, but there's no real argument for reaper's anymore :p - Auron 02:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * For secondary dervishes who feel like wielding a scythe, Reaper's Sweep is great. I used it on my Scythe Thumper. But Wounding is altogether better if you have access to enchants. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed... especially in GvG, the bleeding (which automatically covers the deep wound) couples well with your ranger spreading poison to generate an excessively large amount of degen. -- [[Image:Ruricu-sig.png]] ( Talk • Contribs) 02:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * He called you all retarded. But then, he supports 2 sups per character (even for SR and the like), so don't take it personally :P --Shadowcrest  02:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

poll
If I made a random guild, would you join? Yes No Need answers by noon EST (GMT -5) July 13th. --Shadowcrest 03:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Luxon or Kurzick? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Why did you leave [Ni]? :O --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] - talk 12:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Because he wanted to join me because he doesn't have any idea. --Hel llb rin ger 13:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I left because I needed R3. Badly :(
 * I didn't join HB.
 * Kurzick. --Shadowcrest  14:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Revert war on Legendary Sword
Hi, I know this was yesterday, but apparently this is still an issue. Don't engage in a revert war, even if you think the information entered is false. If your undo is reverted itself, leave it be -- contact the person reverting (i.e. the one repeatedly putting in said false information) and/or discuss on the relevant talk page. If that person continues, try to keep discussing or simply wait it out. Toodles, from your friendly neighbourhood do-goody, -- R  Phalange  20:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was the first person to revert that info, I didn't break 1RV. (though even if I had, see point 2.)
 * We can't keep track of prices, so everyone there was just removing what could technically be construed as vandalism. Particularly since the IP in question was warned not to keep adding the same info. Letting him sit there and list prices while we twiddled our thumbs thinking "Oh no, can't break 1RV!" would have been stupid. --Shadowcrest 14:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Though I guess this has already been pointed out elsewhere. --Shadowcrest  14:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

hi
test moar --98.204.226.178 05:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Saladcrest moar. -- [[Image:Ruricu-sig.png]] ( Talk • Contribs) 05:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, cba to log in to Saladcrest to talk on my own talkpage just to log back in and see if it worked. --Shadowcrest  05:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * typing test just got "hollaback girl" stuck in my head. don't ask. --98.204.226.178 05:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Now, I can sleep. And I need to sleep. G'night. --Shadowcrest  05:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * New test. --98.204.226.178 00:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

ello
i have returned... and i noticed my name in your "Girl" userbox... thank you! E V  E  16:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Also, welcome back :> --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  16:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Read.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 01:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

bye
When I post this, I will be leaving until July 12th. Here is a list of pages to check, as a reminder to myself.
 * User talk:Entropy
 * User talk:Marcopolo47
 * User talk:Auron of Neon
 * User talk:JediRogue
 * User talk:PanSola
 * User talk:R.Phalange
 * User talk:M.mendel
 * User talk:Defiant Elements
 * User talk:JediRogue/RP affair (if it exists)
 * User talk:Xasxas256
 * Request assistance
 * Admin noticeboard
 * Wikia staff noticeboard
 * User/User talk:Defiant Elements/RFA
 * GuildWiki talk:Request for rollback rights
 * User/User talk:M.mendel/Admin Criteria
 * GuildWiki/GuildWiki talk:You are valuable/Draft 1
 * GuildWiki talk:You are valuable
 * As well as any important discussions that crop up while I'm away, in addition to what happens as a result of any drama that occurs. Any help with this bullet upon my return would be greatly appreciated, since these pages are the only ones anything important is occuring on at the moment. My psychic powers are, sadly, severely lacking. :(
 * Have fun for the next two weeks without me guys. --Shadowcrest  02:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Check Talk:Acorns and the talk for GW:DID if you haven't already. --◄mendel► 01:38, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It'll suck you in and you won't escape. the acorn wins. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by PossessedLinebeck (talk &bull; contribs) 01:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC).

Wb
k 21:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're an excellent party thrower. Thank you. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Mandragor_Root_Cake.jpg]] [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 21:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Par Tee from Arr Tee! <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  21:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * *tosses cheap confetti* Welcome back. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  21:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * *uses a Bottle Rocket* wb. Cress Arvein [[Image:Cress sig.JPG]] 21:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks all. :) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * *annoying noisemaker sounds*[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  21:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Get well soon Shadowcrest! --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] - talk 22:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope so. Thanks :) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Category: User MTG
Well, look at Category:User MTG. All of yours are already tagged if they had a "user-created image" license. --◄mendel► 11:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks mendel :)  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I needed something out of the way of the general public for my little DLP exercise. ;-) --◄mendel► 05:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

"Habitually refreshing pages expecting changes while using the internet"
I lol'd because I do it constantly :( Every website needs a RC and discussion pages imo--71.128.201.116 03:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * /agree, I f5 all the time and am dissapointed to find it the same. Also, you need an account, you'd be great. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  03:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I just saw that I have 3 tabs with recent changes open. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 03:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I had 2, then kept forgetting to check the first so I closed it :( --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  03:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds like me lol --Gimmethegepgun 03:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I always have 4 RCs: PvX, GWiki, GW2W and GWW (cause I habitually press alt-shift-r when I'm done looking at an article ^^' ). --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  10:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

So I herd
Ur naem iz Angelline Williams? :\ &mdash; Warw/Wick 12:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Angeline. That aside: ?action=credits ftw, muchos bananas? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  12:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * So I herd u stalk people? I changed it to see if it would update on the credits page, and it did. Besides, now you'll never know whether I'm John or Angeline :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * We all know you're a woman, since you denied it. Or something like that. I think. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  20:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My sister says I have identity issues, but I'm not the one whose proper title is: Dinosaur kitty-cat ninja cashew cute little squating bug gazelle dancing iguana doorhinge loser pirate yellow turkey gobbling chicken breakdancer hippopotamus pickle moose Queen of Canada. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 'choo sayin' that girls are argumentative, Emo Elmo? &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He's suggesting I employed reverse psychology. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * At least someone gets it >.> Proof that Warwick is a guy: "She"'s horrible at understanding subliminal meaning :D jk --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  08:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * This is why unisex names are win. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 07:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Names?
Are you having a baby or something? --- -- (s)talkpage  21:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wtf? <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  21:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I can plan, can't I :O
 * I explained on the talk page. It's for characters in various games. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Riiight. Anyhow, I voted. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  21:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * When I have a kid, it'll probably be one of those unless wife won't let me :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A great first and middle name for your child is Allen Wrench. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My middle school librarian's husband's name was Harry Dick. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I just hope that your librarian didn't have that kind of accent that pronounces "Harry" like "hairy". --◄mendel► 23:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Your hopes were just crushed into little tiny pieces, I'm afraid. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There's another way to pronounce it? :/ --Macros 23:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Short a, long r? Btw, try pronouncing Mike Hawk. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  09:26, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Telephone for Mrs. Lingus, Mrs. Connie Lingus. Also, Hugh G. Rection. These jokes have been outdated for so long; let's not disturb the dead lest the dead disturb you! . [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 09:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * pointedly ignores the last part of Entropy's comment*
 * Here's a good one I spotted while playing Battlefield 2... "Major Lee Hung". --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  19:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

ohyah
Ive been meaning to link this to you for awhile. May be too big though.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/pheee_photos/gif/jump.gif &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by PossessedLinebeck (contribs).
 * That's amazing. If we had a, this would be an excellent time to use it.  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Spotted the userbox, and i was like hey wait..And what did your user page do to my words. It spaced them. It controlled my words beyond what I could. [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 23:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know what it did, but putting an extra line in between fixed it. Maybe you needed to use the to link rather than just URL, but that's just a guess.  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh your the experienced one. [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 23:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * With stuff more complicated than pure text not really :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. Oh and Can I steal borrow your Rate A User template.? [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 00:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As I took is from Entropy (who took it from BlastedT), you are most welcome to use it. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 00:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you know the licensing of photobucket? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 00:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Public Domain. [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 00:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ...If that were the case, any images from there would be allowed here? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 00:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I was throwing out a guess there. [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 00:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Figures, because their copyright policy doesn't seem like it would be allowed here. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

No, non-original content on photobucket would still retain its original copyright status. No jumping loli Zelda for you. 00:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I figured. That person also has a standing blinking Zelda, which I would have preferred. Zelda + jumping (unless she's kicking ass in brawl) don't mix. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See here for what the photobucket license really is (you grant everybody quite a few rights when you post an image to photobucket) and here for a plea to only use free licenses on this wiki (not photobucket). --◄mendel► 06:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Beeecaaaause!
Mendel did it to mess with me. Well, partially anyways, the display: none message was to make me think I was tripping because if I were to respond to him, in the edit box I would see a message he had already put up. No one else bothered to close the tag. I don't know what the first /div tag was for, maybe he wanted to trip up people who posted afterwards by making them thing he had closed the division. &mdash; Powersurge360  03:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That page loaded disgustingly, with ads coming up halfway through the page and the left bar covering the logo. Did it do that to you? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  03:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It didn't cover the logo, the division that contains the image was ended before the image could be placed inside. As for ads, I never see any ads, I use firefox. &mdash; Powersurge360  04:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The conundrum talk page never looked like that for me. Hmm, wait - now I see it, too. In fact, this was a result of PS360 adding a with no , which unbalanced everything. --◄mendel► 10:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

The Deep
You can come with my guildmates and myself some time, we clear it about once a week or so. We've got pretty specific methods down which are generally reliable, Powersurge can testify. 00:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if I monk, I probably can't screw anything up too badly, so I'd love to come along sometime. Thank you very much Felix. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 01:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'd like to come along, too, if I can. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  09:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Everyone can come, lots of room in 12-man parties. Monking there is easy; just take Unyielding Aura, GoLE, Heal Party, and whatever else you want. We use Unyielding Aura for the teleport capabilities. It will be a few days before we do a Deep run however; Rask, our PvE expert, generally leads the party and gives commands, and he's currently banned for verbal abuse (happens about once a month). [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 14:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, I've already UWed with Rask once (loltoucher). He's weird, but quite alright. Anyways, I'd prefer to go as Ele.. I could run HP/GoLE/UA, too :D --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  16:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

ohai shadowcrest
'tis me, on vacation! Editing from Hilton's free "business centre."

Anyways, yeah. I'll be home on Saturday... I want to join [Goth] which is a massive kurz guild that does high level pvp and pve frequently (around 90 members, one month inactivity kick-deadline) but I wouldn't just ditch you and Bob since I dragged you into [keke] :p

So if you want to join, I'll disband guild and secure invites for both of you. There's a really good pvp guy there... isn't even r2 HA but since he's pro at gvg, he can lead and win HA... and he's not even an officer ;o

Anyways, I'll be back alive on Saturday. Also say hi to Bob for me if you see him on =)

&mdash; Nova   &mdash;  (contribs) 11:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

SmashWiki

 * ...is complete and utter failure.
 * ...is mostly bullshit or info that you can get from the game easily.
 * ...is a disgrace to SSBB.

So there's not much competition. :\ I like Wiki formatting for ease of information, but few Wikis are as complete and thorough as I'd like. That's why I go to Gamefaqs or such... (T/C) 18:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I got banned there for having a bad name, it was too long ("any more the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work that much but its fairly effective. very weak against any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill." to be exact). I had to upload an image for Shadow, and I don't even know if he/she (still a mystery) has it right now.. Lol. The image got deleted cause it had nothing to do with SSB. So, gl uploading sig images? They have issues, as Shadowcrest pointed out to me. So, yeah, I agree :> --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  18:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They're definitely complete and utter failure, but I think you mean just mainspace, and they're complete and utter failure for more than that. Auron, DE, LoaT, Mendel, Warwick, and some #gww IRC users can attest to this. As for 2/3, I learned some good stuff there, like SHFF(l) (though I can't do it other than in practice mode when I'm not doing anything) and wavedash (which I had never heard of). Do you use the forums on gamefaqs? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  18:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * @Viper once I pointed out his own image had nothing to do with SSB he said I could use it if I put it in my smasher template. But that would mean getting rid of Zelda's Light Arrow trophy, and I would never do that :o --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  18:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Get 2 smashertemplates? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  19:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought about it, but I don't really care what my userpage looks like there. They won't let me help them, so if they're content being failures... so be it. There's nothing I can do for them if they won't let me. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:08, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wavedashing died (well, almost). Snakedash is the way to go now :> It is nice place just to collect images and such, but if you're a serious Smash player then it is simply unsatisfactory. I wanna learn how to play better, damnit. Find me a prO place like Gamefaqs where (with work) I can extract all sorts of new tricks and strategies, learn alternative uses for moves, find combos and chain grabs, learn techniques for edgeguarding, etc... (T/C) 19:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, the smashwiki community does not fail all that utterly, witness my talkpage (you have to read this first, and yes, I'm talking about the orange box), but then again, that is 2 users out of how many? --◄mendel► 23:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They are complete and utter fail imo =/ --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't quote my watchlist back at me, please.
 * You can't prove "complete" by example, but you can disprove it by counterexample.
 * Why not talk to me on irc?
 * --◄mendel► 23:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This proves my point.
 * Prove me wrong :P
 * Then it wouldn't be public. And I wouldn't be able to put it in such an amazing format. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

After seeing some of those things I am even more confident that, yes, there is a lot of things bad in Smashland. Randall shouldn't be a sysop imho. Still. I am...not happy about GuildWikians going over there to boast and generally make us look like pretentious asses. It's none of my business anymore, of course, but I can't help but think anytime this sort of transwiki communication takes place, it hurts GuildWiki and justifies the other wiki, whatever it may be. I don't usually see much positive interaction between GuildWiki users and other wiki users...it's usually "we do things different" or "from our experience this is wrong", and that's really not a nice thing to say. In the same way as, say, R.Phalange has been not so welcome here because he is an "outsider", I doubt that any criticism, no matter how well intentioned or true, is pleasant for these other communities. So I think we can join them and help them grow, sure, but don't parade the GuildWiki banner around with you. My two cents. (T/C) 01:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

How to tell if it's an account
There's a way to tell if a userpage belongs to a registered account or not. If the "contributions" link is there, it's a real account. --Macros 22:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw that too, but assumed it was there because the user: prefix was there. I have been proved incorrect. Though it struck me as odd that he would register User:LaZy Naion Article and then create it from User:Troah. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Don't eat bread.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 23:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol! --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thought I'd share a funny page w/ a funny person.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 23:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * <3 --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:47, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Now you really do have a new message!
SmashWiki doesn't lie ... --KyleH (talk) 00:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Now it lies still. Even after a cache clear :( --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

As requested
Image:Tango-heart-icon.png -- R  Phalange  21:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Entropy doesn't like wub :(  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look very good at 19px... the borders don't show up nicely. I'll fix that sometime (make a 19px version).-- R [[Image:RPhalange star.png|18px]] Phalange  22:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My first thought: ohgawdNUUUUUUUUUU!!!! *runs for the hills* >.> &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 22:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's also make a template just to be safe. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll make a /d/ template. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:01, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Mendel just uploaded an svg which happens to be much better than this one; I'd go with that instead of the current :P. -- R [[Image:RPhalange star.png|18px]] Phalange  23:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

DUDE!
I'm so freakin' sorry, my dad tripped over the wireless router and broke it. I'm on a wired one until he gets back with a new one. &mdash; Powersurge360  23:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What's the point of wireless if people can still trip over it :p That sux though. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Disconnects ruin my vanquishing :(
 * Lol, don't worry about it.  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I was about to give it another shot before the new build, and you know what hit me? Spiteful Spirit Necromancer. I had one, and we could've taken it over Vekk and killed those spiders easily. Sigh... hindsight is 20-20. &mdash; Powersurge360  23:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Ruby
I've got a ruby you can have, so next time we're both on at the same time, let me know and I'll give it to you. I got on just now to see if you were but um... no dice. Yeah. &mdash; Powersurge360  21:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Armor
Necro female Vabbian Deldrimor Need votes plx. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 19:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * ...Weird poll. The first option is nothing. Still Vabbian > Deld. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  19:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Vote for nudity, obviously. :P --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 19:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed (I hope), revote please. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 20:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The Deldrimor pieces don't match each other at all. Vabbian++.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Monument. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 21:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Armor updating
Erm, I'm told the general consensus is that /attention is a bad pose. I'm updating it without /attention. It's an unnatural pose and can hide details of armor. Wanmoke 03:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Your picture was replaced because It did not clearly show which bits of the armor where dyeable, seeing as red is very close to the undyeable bits.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ 03:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The red dye throws off what the back of the armor looks like. The red is hard to distinguish from the brown, and people expecting the dyed parts to be green won't find any because there's no green. /attenion is a bad pose, but keeping the color a) the same and b) in contrast with the undying parts of the armor is more important. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 03:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Rawr. Could I be notified next time instead of just reverting? I'll have him retake the pictures with green.  Thanks.  Wanmoke 03:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Moiax doesn't frequent the wiki anymore, so either you or anyone else with a male ranger needs to retake the pictures. And ok. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  04:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

M.O.X.
Do you remember what he said? I think it was "AT YOUR COM-MAND" but I don't remember for sure and already closed the client, is that what he said? &mdash; Powersurge360  23:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it was "as you com-mand". Can check now, I guess. - -<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * GWW says "BY YOUR COM-MAND". Adding. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Miniature template
Ok, I got it working.... User:Wynthyst/Template/Miniatures Had to use Nope and Y, so just change the Nope's to Y's. -- Wynthyst 01:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Srsly, epic wub. Thank you so much! --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank god for /Placeholder. Or rather, thank Shadowcrest. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]--  (s)talkpage  13:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I had to steal it from GWW, otherwise it wouldn't work. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  15:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Help on SmashWiki
I'd really want some help on SmashWiki. The user, Randall00, banned me for three months without reason or warning. The other admins don't help me because they, "Don't feel like it." Then I was permanently banned without reason. I tried talking on my talk page about the ban, but then the use Clarinet Hawk blocked me from using it. They don't use their IRC channel, so can you help me out a little, please?  CAFINATOR    Gentlemen...  21:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't have any power over what SmashWiki does. That said, I feel for you, Randall does that a lot it seems. If they don't check IP addresses you could always make a new account and come back and try not to get caught. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I assume I was asked because I can be reached outside of SmashWiki and because I guess I must be notorious for arguing against the admins. That, and mendel said on a forum that I'd be good to ask. My reply is at User talk:Cafinator. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggested you mainly because I don't know anyone else who can be reached outside of Smashwiki and would be expected to listen. --◄mendel► 23:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Titles
Do you happen to have a link to any solid confirmations to the question raised here? -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 21:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Honestly no; but even so, I'd advise against telling people that they can indeed get LDoA and Survivor and having them waste their time to do so. Change the note to "It is assumed that ..." or something similar if you wish, but I don't think not mentioning it is a good idea. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree simply removing the note is a bad idea. I just wanted to know if you know the answer to the Imp question. (-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 21:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. In that case, I have no clue :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

challenge
Abaddon. Also, Avatar of Medusa: for 10...56 seconds, your attacks cause target to undergo the Rite of the Great Dwarf, turning them into stone. Stone foes have +40 armor and are not fleshy, but never stop attacking and will not break aggro. (T/C) 23:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought it was margonite related, but I couldn't find the picture for it. I know we have a concept art with that face somewhere, but I don't know where it is. Wtb? Also, lol. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Abaddon2.jpg]] [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw that one, but no, that's not it. I was thinking that perhaps it was [[Image:Dark Aura.jpg]] (the eye is weird), but I'm sure I've seen that exact eye before. I will not rest until I find it! (Srsly, this is even more annoying than your stupid skill I was trying to think of last night with the 3 second recharge.) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In the Prophecies manual, page 111. --Macros 23:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Dark Aura face has no resemblance whatsoever to the concept art, so I am confused. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. My. Goodness. Yes, that's it. You have no idea how many hours of agony you've saved me. (Btw, how did you know that fast?) Great job. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know it doesn't (now that I've looked at it), but I remembered it having an odd eye. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Because I remembered seeing that in the manual, so that's where I looked first. It's a hard face to forget. --Macros 23:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I want to get the manuals for the games, but I bought all of them other than Prophecies through the online store.. .and the PDF files on Guildwars.com are borked. Or were. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The German manual that I have has only 74 pages, but it's in there as frontispice for chapter 3: "Grundausbildung" (basic training). So you think this concept art has later evolved into Abbaddon? Why the Proph. manual, then? --◄mendel► 10:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know. But the head at least reminds me of Abaddon. At first I thought (obviously) of Medusa-like figure, which does not exist in game. Then maybe I thought it was an Ochu or Malboro type creature, but that is Final Fantasy universe. I really don't have a clue what it is supposed to represent... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I think they had the whole story of Proph-Fac-NF thought out when Proph was released, else they wouldn't be so involved with one-another. Right? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  12:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The background is also the Echovald Forest. Abaddon sure gets around a lot for something that's imprisoned in the Realm of Torment. --Macros 14:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You underestimate the power of "making it up as you go". See the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy for an example. It can still be Abaddon and Echovald, because concepts you haven't use in one campaign don't go away; they're available to be used later when you need them, and the people who thought of them may be thinking similar thoughts later as well ("plagiarising themselves"). --◄mendel► 14:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

nerfed 3 second-skill

 * I still can't find the 1-3 second skill, and it's making me upset. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I show 46 skills with a 3-second recharge in my skills spreadsheet, what other clues did you have about it? &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 00:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There was a skill which had a 1 second recharge, but it was nerfed to 3 seconds and so now no one uses it, since the fast recharge was its main draw. I had thought it was Glimmer but it's not. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Mind Blast, now buffed back to 2 seconds. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 01:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Mind Blast was always 2, until nerfed and then rebuffed. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  01:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Here's the player-usable skills with 3-second recharge - I checked the history of all their templates back at least a year, and didn't find any that had been nerfed from a 1-second recharge.


 * Blessed Light
 * Blood of the Aggressor
 * Called Shot
 * Dismiss Condition
 * Dwayna's Kiss
 * Ghostmirror Light
 * Heal Other
 * Immolate
 * Incendiary Arrows
 * Jamei's Gaze
 * Magehunter Strike
 * Mend Body and Soul
 * Overload
 * Patient Spirit
 * Pious Renewal
 * Point Blank Shot
 * Power Attack
 * Protector's Strike
 * Reversal of Damage
 * Rotting Flesh
 * Spirit Siphon
 * Stolen Speed
 * Touch of Agony
 * Vengeful Weapon
 * Wallow's Bite
 * Water Trident
 * Weapon of Remedy
 * Withering Aura
 * Word of Healing
 * Wounding Strike
 * Xinrae's Weapon
 * Zojun's Shot

&mdash;Dr Ishmael 02:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Smash Wiki stuff
I'm putting this here so I can respond to your posts (hopefully) without getting extraneous comments from other users. If after we've discussed it you would like to move it that is fine. Anyway, the point about the rollback before sysop was an idea based on Semicolon's RfA proposal whereby a current sysop or bureaucrat would need to approve the nomination before allowing the user the ability to run for sysop. This is only necessary due to the ridiculous number of pointless RfA's that popped up last June. This was why Randall eventually shut the whole thing down. You know my feelings on this, so I won't go into them further here. To prevent the useless number of RfA's that would pop up, I thought that there needed to be some kind of mechanism to prevent that. I wasn't foreseeing there being the same speech/vote process that there was for RfA in RfR's. I'll see what I can do about ironing out the process. Also, the reason that I feel that seeing what people do with the rollback status will show somethings about how s/he will act as a sysop. If the person uses the rollback powers as a way of making an edit war easier and try to say that they can do that as a rollback, it's a good sign that if s/he is made a sysop s/he will misuse the tools. Also, I had hoped that there would be more discussion before we just up and did the RfRs. I did the RfB as directly told to by Kirby King, and modeled it off the RfAs. KP just up and made the RfRs without consulting anyone simply because he wanted it. As for your question about someone becoming a bureau without becoming a sysop, I don't see the reason that someone, in an established wiki such as ours, should be simultaneously given adminship and the ability to confer said adminship in one feel swoop. It's really a minor point, and I mostly did it for the sake of consistency with what the established ideas on the wiki are. If the community wants it changed, that's fine. I hope this answered most of your questions. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the part about using it to stem the pointless RfA's make sense (enough for me to not WoT, anyway :P ). But it brings up an important point. There are quite a few users on SmashWiki that I would not ever trust to be an administrator (Oxico, KPerfekt are the ones on the rollback page atm) but I would fully trust with rollback rights. Therefore: Are you giving rollback only to people who could possibly be considered for sysop, or are you using it as a reverting tool? Because I don't really see how it could be used for both; users like KPerf who likely not ever get sysophood can make as many pointless RfA's as he wants, because he could be trusted with rollback.
 * I still don't get how rollback shows the whole trust thingy. If they abuse rollback, they could have just as easily abused the undo button; if they don't abuse the undo button, what's the point of wasting the time to see whether or not they abuse rollback? :/ (This assumes that rollback is used as anti-vandalism and not sysop req.)
 * I was under the impression that you were going to be the one making the RfR page, which is why I let the subject die out; I was waiting until you made the page before I criticized it too much :P
 * I agree that admin -> bureau is a minor point, even if I disagree with what it is. It's unlikely enough that a candidate that would be considered for both at the same time that I don't feel compelled to make a novel over it. If I'm going to pick my battles, this wouldn't be one of them. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Short version
* are Clarinet Hawk's points, ** are rebuttals, etc.
 * Implement rollback as a sysop requirement in order to reduce the # of RfA's from users that aren't qualified for anything more than a revert tool.
 * If rollback is only granted to candidates that could potentially be sysops, the # of poor RfA's stays low but users that can benefit from rollback (the revert tool) but should not have sysophood don't get rollback.
 * If rollback is granted to all users won't abuse it as a RV tool, combating vandalism is easier for a lot of people but the # of unqualified RfA's will be back at it's previous standard.
 * The process for rollback should not be an all-out RfA style nomination.
 * Rollback makes for a good "test period" to make sure users w/ rollback won't abuse sysop tools.
 * Users that abuse rollback could have abused reverts just as easily with the undo button, so denying rollback is nothing special.
 * Users that don't abuse the undo button will in all likelyhood not abuse rollback, thus wasting the trial time.
 * Adminship should be a requirement for bureaucratship.
 * Their jobs are too different to make one a pre-requisite for the other.

Extraneous comment
Using RfR this way is an oblique way to adress a problem that'd better be solved directly one way or another (or that's sized up wrong). --◄mendel► 06:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Does Bureaucrat at Smashwiki somehow not have access to sysop tools? That seems extraordinarily unlikely. You cannot say a bureaucrat's role is different from that of a sysop when a bureaucrat is ALSO a sysop. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 06:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * All current bureaucrats are sysops, but theoretically it is possible to be one and not the other. See [here]. --◄mendel► 06:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a kind of weak bureaucrat status... unaffected by rate limits. Neat. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 06:49, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Lololo
Obscure chess maneuver. You know what to do. (T/C) 03:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Entropy, Shadow can't switch with me if you don't get out of the way first :/.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ  03:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

ROFL
Sorry 'bout that. Didn't know you were a user here. But anyway, yeah, I'm sorry. But I admit to saying all kinds of shit when I'm pissed. I'm really hot headed, but anyway. Sorry to hear that, but I remember you telling MG that you were British. lol Sometimes, I fake a British accent for the lulz. Do you do that too? C'mon, I know you do. Well, I must say, whoever founded this splendid Wiki did a magnificent job with the skin. Shadowcrest, mah boi, I'm guessing you're an administrator here, no? <font face="lucida sans unicode" size="2"> Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 05:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Shadowcrest is currently banned for three months for plotting against the crown. I'll let you know when he gets back. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Shadowcrest! Banned? Those two words were ones I thought would never meet. May I ask how he plotted against the crown, or for lack of better word, what is the crown? <font face="lucida sans unicode" size="2"> Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 06:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm lying to sully his good name, he's just sleeping right now. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 06:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * However, he did once try and usurp me. He was put down rather forcefully.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ  06:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Speekin' of sleep *looks at clock* I think it's about time I hit the sack. One more thing, it's hard to believe Shadowcrest was put down. His arguing skillz are superb. Good night everyone, and thanks for the info. :) <font face="lucida sans unicode" size="2"> Blue Ninjakoopa Talk to me 08:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If I was caught plotting against the crown, will I lose my title Lord Shadowcrest Failmore III? Also Giga, what is your title?
 * Yes, I'm an admin here. And I am of British descent, but I've lived in America my whole life. I have this skin on all wikia wikis, because it's just too great. --<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 15:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Official Unofficial Shadow Lord of Guild Wiki.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ 20:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you...
Pissed off beyond recognition? 1 week bans are rather long O-o" --- -- (s)talkpage  19:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I banned them until after halloween (was too lazy to type in 6 days). And log spamming pisses me off. My watchlist on smashwiki just got owned by a move vandal. And since I'm not a sysop there, wikia's move restrictions stopped me from rv'ing. it sucked. --<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, I see. Reasonable. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  19:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Your poll
Don't worry, you're still valuable no matter what people think. (T/C) 21:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll always be valuable, but it's not mutually exclusive with being an ass.
 * I realized (well, I had 'noticed' before, but had mostly ignored it) that I sounded way worse than I intended it to be.
 * Ever since the whole "R.Pha affair" with all the bureaucrats and 'better' sysops throwing around 'decent sysop' more than accusations are thrown around during a presidential campaign, I've tried to "improve." (This comes to mind. Just as she was hurt that you didn't promote her first w/ Auron and Pan; it was the same for me.) I picked Auron as "goal" of sorts- I tried to be more like him in the logic-sensical-srsbsns stuff way, but not in the I'm-a-prick way. But it's recently become more and more noticeable that while (imo) I've advanced in the thought branch, I've also started acting more assholish than I ever intended. I wanted to know if other people thought the same way. --<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I always found you a bit assholish, as you call it. But terms like that are rather wide, imo. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  21:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Order of promotion has nothing to do with whom I consider to be "better" sysop. For JediRogue I honestly did not know whether I wanted a 3rd bureaucrat at that time since I thought that maybe I could still be staying on, and 4 seemed like too many. I consider most of the current sysop to be more or less equal to each other in "decency". You're not a prick on this Wiki to my knowledge, and on SmashWiki for example you've got a relatively high standing. I think you are overthinking things.
 * Besides, being a small dick is usually better than being, say, a carebear or a troll. (That sounded wrong. You know what I mean.) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Tee hee, entropy. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 21:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)