GuildWiki talk:Requests for adminship/Warwick (6)

Votes

 * I mostly agree with what she wrote as her rationale. I trust her to not abuse admin powers if given nowadays. However, I feel I am biased, thus cast my vote on the Neutral side. Besides, too many > too few. Perhaps keep in the back of your head for when the need for a new admin is needed. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  16:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we are doing just fine for admins right now. Nevertheless I also agree that Warwick has mostly settled down by now. So if there was a sudden need for a new admin, maybe I'd start looking here...Warwick's biggest argument in her favor is longevity and experience of various forms. I would say the biggest thing against would be that this is the 6th RfA, so Warwick has a rocky history... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 16:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus, now if I'm a terrible admin, Entropy/Auron/Jedi can just demote me outright Simply saying: "If I screw up it can be fixed anyway" isn't exactly a good argument. You'll have to do better than that. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 17:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I support your RFA - although someone has changed the RFA system - so I don't know how to Random Time  11:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Blurb
The nomination blurb seems to be about "Why it's ok for Warwick to be an admin", as opposed to "Why Warwick should be promoted to be an admin"... -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 18:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

"I see quite a few things that could do with deleting that other people (Mainly Viper tbh) don't get to deleting for about 20-40 mins or so" are those stuff that needs to be immediately deleted? o_O -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 18:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably not. I did state that I wasn't sure if it was a reason. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 19:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * "You can never have too many admins" - I partially agree, in the sense that if at one point we needed 40 admins to maintain order and so we got a total of 40, and later things calmed down so we only need 10, we don't need to find 30 to demote, we can keep all 40. On the other hand, my inclination is to not promote ppl to adminship just because it's ok.  If we do that, then in the long run a new user who comes here will see that this is a wiki consisting only of trouble makers vs sysops, no regular users; and I think that would be a bad long-term image to portray.   -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 19:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Ishmael's Addition
I'm not certain about the new format, so I dunno if the "Qualities" count as peoples votes, but anyway;
 * Tendency to make quick decisions without community discussion leading to brash actions that are widely opposed by the community.
 * I don't feel that I do that any more, I've outgrown it. It's been like, 5 months since I last did somthing like that. I think. So it's not really a tendancy, is it? &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 19:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's why I put it as a sub-item under "Rocky history". &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didnt note that. :> &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

History of unilateral actions
Yes, I'm bringing this up again, but it's really the only argument I have against Warwick. Most of Warwick's activity between when I really got involved with the wiki in March and when her activity dropped off a month or so ago could easily be summarized by "Warwick decides something needs to be done, edits/creates 100(+) pages, community objects, wikidrama and delete/revert-fests ensue." Her activity over the past couple months has been too low for me to get a good characterization of her current wiki-personality, so I can't really say whether she has improved her attitude/mentality about this or not. While she hasn't undertaken any unilateral action during that time, she also hasn't participated in much community discussion. (Please point out any discussions where she did participate, I don't watch everything that happens around here (just most of it) and I have no clue what happens on other wikis.) It would be great if her attitude really has changed, I just can't make a judgment either way on that right now. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 20:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the way I've acted has changed, personally, but thats just me. I'm bias. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I find it amusing how you say you've stopped trolling and your userpage mentions your "trolling partners". Anyway, I think you'd make an OK admin, but I think the "boy who cried wolf" factor is probably going to hurt you (srsly, RFA 6?), as well as the whole don't really need another admin thing.
 * No, no real insights there. Just random thoughts that popped into my head.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  21:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That was from a while ago! Honest! >.>. No, but seriously, the SSBBwiki trolling was intended to help more than it was to harm. I (along with Felix and DE) were trying to change the fact that.. the admins over there sucked. We failed. Shame. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 21:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The last unilateral (read, uncoordinated with the people actively working on the same pages) action I can recall was on August 2nd, and Dr ishmael summed it up here. Not that big of a deal, and it's been a while ago. --◄mendel► 22:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My intention on SSBBwiki was purely that of humor. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh come on, I can't be the only one who was actually trying to get them to stop failing.. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 15:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Discussion style
See here. I don't want to commit to an opinion whether that is tolerable discussion style for an admin weighing in on an important discussion, mainly because I've got an open RfA myself. I think that is about the worst I can remember of Warwick in recent history, though. --◄mendel► 22:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * D:. That was smashwiki, though! And that guy was really irritating me.. And it was for a good cause, too!.. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 22:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * In my opinion you can't judge people based on what they say/do ingame or on other sites. For all you know Warwick is a total bitch on Facebook or something, and if you'd find that out she'd suddenly make a bad GuildWiki admin? Come on. GuildWiki admins are (or should be) chosen based on what they say and do here on GuildWiki, nothing else. I know calling someone a dipshit or whatever isn't really the best way to give people a positive idea of who you are but that doesn't make you any less an admin on THIS wiki. I know it's a thin line really, because if someone is a known vandal of other wiki's, I'd have second thoughts too (not that I'm saying you're a vandal WW, neither am I sticking my head out for you - It's just that I have a strong opinion about this). Back on topic - I have no doubts Warwick will make a good admin, but is it really necessary? Does the wiki need another admin? Putting up another RFA because 'you can't have enough admins' isn't really an argument. Putting up an RFA because you think you can do something for the wiki is more like a step in the right direction, but I haven't read anything along those lines yet (if I'm wrong, please point me to it). Anyway that's my €0,02 and if it'd really come down to it, I'd probably vote neutral again because I don't think it is necessary Warwick would become admin, but neither do I think she'd make a bad one. --[[Image:Progger.png]] - talk 22:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow. Progr made a WoT... Still, it's true. I'm quite a dick on PvX when it comes to someone posting a horrible-beyond-repair build. Does that make me any worse here? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  08:10, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering certain members of the administration team are here solely because of what they've done outside this wiki, I'm afraid plenty of people will disagree with you, Progr (though whether I do or not is a different story). [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I know what you mean, but that doesn't mean it should happen again. --[[Image:Progger.png]] - talk 11:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Progger is relatively right. afaik there isnt really much of a reason anymore why not, its just that there isn't much of a reason why so. I feel I could do better for this wiki with admin powers, but I'm really quite bias, so can't give a judge of how well I'd do. :\ &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 15:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Adminship would increase activity
So are you saying that you are inactive - and you need a perk (adminship) to peak your activity again, adminship should be a tool - not blackmail (you will make me an admin or I shall stop contributing) Random Time  10:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. It's just the fact that a lot of the contributions I might make is somthing that Viper would have already done/will do in the next 10-20 mins. Tagging somthing for deletion that is about to be deleted is a bit pointless imo. Tagging somthing for banning that is about to be banned is a bit pointless too. I'm not saying I need a perk to peak my activity, I'm saying that I'd be able to do the stuff I can't do now. Which should probably be evident. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 11:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I read that as a promise, rather than threat. --◄mendel► 11:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I support your RFA - although someone has changed the RFA system - so I don't know how to Random Time  11:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You do that by thinking of points in Warwick's favor (look at User:M.mendel/Admin_Criteria if you need ideas) and adding them to the summary. --◄mendel► 12:02, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It wasn't supposed to be a threat.. I don't really see how it could be interpruted as a threat, tbh. "If I'm not given admin powers I'll leave" is a threat, but "My activity would probably increase" isn't really a threat at all- as mendel says, more of a promise. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 15:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * *cough* >.> (see the last sentence in the part I struck out) &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol. I sat there wondering what the heck you were talking about, 'till I realised it was a link. /fail. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 16:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)