User talk:Quizzical/Ytterbium

I still wouldn't say that fire magic sucks. :P Enemies don't need to be blinded, slowed down, or KD'd if they're dead... All elements are pretty balanced imo. Anyways, good article (or what do you call it), as always. J Striker 09:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree about the part where Elementalists who focus on fire don't really know how to play their class if they don't know how their other elements work. There's definitely more to the class then just damage output. My friend still refuses to bring Maelstrom in his water build when it would be useful just because it has pathetic damage. IMO, it's still an awesome skill even if it didn't do damage. Each of the elements are powerful and do their specific jobs very well, but it's a shame that every Elementalist I see in PvE is echoing Meteor Shower during one battle, and then complaining about their energy for the next two battles.-- franc likes tacos 10:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

When you talk about what the elements can do, you fail to remind that you only have 8 slots, minus 2 for rez and attunement. Without dual attune and anything 10e you'll need GoLE, too. So, you'll never, ever get that much out of the other elements. I, personally, use Air Magic often. My bar?

GoS isn't completely necessary, it only speeds up, so you can swap that out for, say, Blinding Flash or Enervating Charge. But, that leaves 1 party utility on your bar. 1. And, where groups mob up like crazy, a Fire Ele is much more potent. Besides, Blinding Flash is rather mediocre nowadays, since you have to spam it, and it has a hefty cost, meaning you'll not use your damage spells as often.

And now the Water Magic story, yay. You already note 8 things Water Magic has. Good luck getting all that. Again, I'll post an example build which I like.

With a cute optional slot, usually something like DF, "I Am Unstoppable!" or a random skill like Daft Strike. Anyhow, with this bar you have: A very potent Ward, AoE damage with a bit of slow, minor damage with Energy gain, Miss chance. You could perhaps mix in an Earth Magic ward in there, if you feel like it. By adding damage, it wont get any better. Why? Because it's focussed in maintaining your blue bar and snaring/hindering. Not damage. By adding damage, you get a Lack of Build Focus. That article is quite interesting, by the way.

Earth Magic, fun as always. Lacks any really good damage, unless you take Shockwave. And I only use SW when I'm rolling capway (5 Eles, 1 Warrior, 2 Monks. SStep in and blow stuff up with PBAoE). And SW alone is mediocre, since it has a recharge.

So, a build eh.. A Warder is strong and brave, lots of party support, that's for sure. Also, we'll want to support the party when WaM is down. Damned PvPBlockwebs.

This bar features: Defense versus Melee, versus Elements, it weakens frontliners within the Ward of Weakness by using Shockwave, which also deals some damage. And you have another small damage source, also granting energy, named Glowstone. You gave 7 examples of what Earth Magic can do. I have 3 of the list you summed up; Defense/Wards. Damage. Weakness.

Fire Magic is up next. This can be used defensively. How? Hahahah. I hoped you'd know!

AoE-damage flee is a GREAT defense. And it features what Fire Magic excells at. AoE big domage. Visually, this indeed only deals big raw domage, but by casting SH/SH/TH on the frontliners, you'll make them kite the AoE damage. They run. Ever saw a Warrior running away and still using Magehunter's Smash? I thought so.

Conclusion: This article is the worst from my view. I do, however, agree with the final line. I've played every Element in a bunch of areas, finding Air Magic the most potent in most areas. High armor? Heh, not with CA and 25% AP. Although my classy Dual Attunement Rodgorts nuker is very effective, too. I suppose I wont need to put that in a skillbar, do I? --- -- (s)talkpage  10:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)