Talk:Champion

Champion Title
Someone on TGH claimed that "high-rated GvG battles" means both guilds, the winner and the loser, must have at least 1500+ rating for the progression towards the title to occur. But I want to hear some tangible proof before editing the article. --Akaraxle 10:42, 8 May 2006 (CDT)


 * 1st	The Last Pride	EvIL	Kr	1647	100	10
 * 2nd	War Machine	WM	Kr	1624	110	15
 * 3rd	Esoteric Warriors	EW	Eu	1596	105	9
 * 4th	I Guild I	iGi	Am	1519	77	9
 * 5th	Treacherous Empire	Te	Am	1518	40	3
 * 6th	The Benecia Renovatio	RenO	Kr	1513	104	15
 * 7th	オレがこやんど	こやんど	Ja	1511	96	19
 * 8th	Rank Three Plus Pug	Deer	Am	1510	83	7
 * 9th	We Still Pwn Charr	Char	Am	1506	72	13
 * 10th	Irresistible Blokes	iB	Eu	1496	59	8
 * 11th	Real Teazer	DoM	Eu	1494	83	29

So any guild matches between top 9 guilds are high rated, but iB vs DoM would not be? I dont think so, Anet cant possibly be that elitist. --Xeeron 13:02, 8 May 2006 (CDT)
 * If you start with the view point that not everyone has to be able to earn every title, it kinda makes sense. LordKestrel 19:23, 8 May 2006 (CDT)


 * There's also the fact that usually, at the end of a season, the top ~50 guilds have more than 1500 rating. That means, if your guild was a top50/100, you would only earn a few points in the last days of the season, which means it would probably require several reasons for you to attain the Champion title. But again, I've only heard this "1500+ rating" from one source, so I cannot consider it reliable yet. --Akaraxle 02:09, 9 May 2006 (CDT)


 * OK, a very reliable source (alpha tester) confirmed to me the contested claim: both guilds need to have more than 1500 rating for the Champion "counter" to increase. I'm going to edit the article and add this information. --Akaraxle 15:28, 10 May 2006 (CDT)

Only the top 14 guilds beating any of the other top 14 have any chance of even trying this. The skill hunter rank 3 title and treasure hunter titles are impressive, but this is a little to unreachable! Skuld  17:14, 12 May 2006 (CDT)

They changed this in the Friday July 7 update. It is now 1200+. Slogankid1 12:44AM Sat July 8 (EET)
 * If I understand the Update Notes right, it means it's enough to beat a 1200+ guild, you don't have to be in such a guilds. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.132.112.89 (talk &bull; contribs) 17:44, 7 July 2006 (CDT).
 * correct, you do not have to be 1200+ST47 15:17, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
 * lol, I feel sooo vindicated in my doubts. Good thing that ANet actually do change stuff that is not working. --Xeeron 15:06, 13 July 2006 (CDT)

At least one person has this, last of master has it displayed &mdash; Skuld 02:04, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

Saw some people displaying it, they told me the rank 2 is called "Fierce Champion", and is awarded for 50 points. Faerie 15:01, 6 August 2006 (GMT)

There's two more tiers to this title from what I've found out. Tier 3 is Mighty Champion, and Tier 4 is Deadly Champion. Currently Miss Digi of [Fish] has the most points in this title (164). Tier 3 is achieved at 100 wins, Tier 4 at 168 wins (odd number I know) - Duros


 * OMG, is it just me or do the rank, champion, and glad titles all have the same names and same numbers? --Theonemephisto 10:15, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

I was hoping not, but from what I can tell it looks like they're exactly the same. --Duros 9:44, 19 August 2006 (PDT)

I still wondering if you only have to beat a guild with 1200 rating or you have to be one as well. Someone said earlier here in the discussion that you dont have to have 1200 rating, but if this its true, i wonder why the information in the titles page havent been corrected. I still havent beat a guild with 1200+ rating for see this myself and i would like to know if someone who beated a guild with 1200 rating with a guild under 1200 rating got the champion point. Lord Juan 03:14, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

Both guilds involved need to have a rating of 1200. --Duros 1:12, 23 August 2006 (PDT)

Hmm i'm not sure how this works I know my guild was rank 900 and rank 700 beating rank 600 and rank 900 guilds and I don't see any champion points and ladder definitly isn't frozen. Anyone know whats wrong?--A Guy 21:53, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
 * It works as the article says it works. --Fyren 22:06, 1 October 2006 (CDT)

Ah I get it now. Thats why everyone is saying its elitist.

If you haven't noticed, all titles are meant to lead to elitism. In HA you see groups asking for r3,6,9+ and even in pve you see groups asking for r3+ lightbringer. Everyone still has a shot at getting champion points, it's just that you have to bring your guild up to that rating and keep winning.

Any news of the champ system changing with the new tournament style gvg stuff?

Effects of New Ladder system
Any news of the champ system changing with the new tournament style gvg stuff?

According to Lord Emergency of [Pink] (a R1 champ), since rating changes are so slow (like in the 2pts per match range), getting this title will be as difficult as it was when it first came out. It would seem that way, you'd have to win a handsome number of matches to even get into champ point range. The top ranked guilds aren't even halfway there yet (atm #1 is [dT] with 1072). Although it might be possible that after some time there will be a number of guilds that are +1200. Jmz 22:16, 2 January 2007 (CST)


 * Rating changes are much lower outside of tournaments. Once tournaments actually start, there probably won't be an issue (and the ladder is supposed to never reset, making it even easier).  --Fyren 22:35, 2 January 2007 (CST)


 * Emergency forgot about the tournaments and how that will affect champ point ranges. Theoretically, once teams hit 1200+ after the tournaments come about, It'll be easier to farm them since even if you lose you only lose -2 rating, which is really of no consequence. I'll go taunt him in the GH with my higher title :P --Thom Bangalter 14:43, 7 January 2007 (CST)

-i still dont get it- my guild at 600 at the start of the day just beat three guilds who were all under 1200 rating in a row now were at like 495 and i still have no champ points, whats up with that?