User talk:Warrior Nation

Delete? Why? The last time it was discussed, advertising was allowed on user pages. That's the reason I added the RR ad on my user page, as a protest as everyone else wanted to allow advertising. -- (gem / talk) 22:37, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

Dear Administrators,

My original intention of creating this page is for archiving the builds that are relevant for my guild. I apologise if I have overlooked the rules and regulations. I would really appreciate that you could point me to the respective rules and regulations in creating a userpage.

As requested, the 'join me', so called 'advertising' has been duly removed.

Do kindly post your doubts or any violations here. I will try my best to rectify the situation. Thank you very much.

Kind regards, Ariel.


 * Like I allready said, I don't think this page should have been deleted, but now that you removed the questionable stuff, there is no problem at all.
 * A small hint: Type four tildes ( ~ ) to automatically generate a signature. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 06:10, 17 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Dear Administrator Gem,


 * I am sorry to cause you any inconvenience over that. Thank you for guiding me through the process.


 * Kind regards,
 * Ariel 13:07, 17 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Gem, past practice has been to permit a user having a reference to their own guild on their own user page. Even then, the page cannot be used either as a guild's home-page, nor for guild recruitment purposes.
 * The user has removed the item that most specifically crossed this line (ie: a link for "Join us Today"). But, by the contributor's own admission above, this page's purpose (which has been the only thing contributed to by this user) is to serve as a build archive for their guild.  We are not web hosting for guilds - if this is the sole purpose of this user account and page, they should archive the builds within their own forum. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 10:29, 17 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Dear Administrator Barek,


 * My apologies if there are any overlook/s over the rules and regulations of creating a userpage. If I must profess, I am a relatively new user.


 * Upon your reading your comments, kindly allow me to clarify your doubts and the situation.


 * "Past practice has been to permit a user having a reference to their own guild on their own user page"


 * In my humble opinion, I wish to point out that an individual user is a user, a guild user is a user equally as well. However, it is believed that the topic has been duly discussed and dealt with, henceforth, I will not comment upon it further. At the end of the day, it would be very much appreciated if you could kindly provide me with a clear and definitive position on this. Additionally, kindly allow me to clarify the following, if I have a character, named ‘Warrior Nation’, does it make me an individual member then?


 * "the page cannot be used either as a guild's home-page"


 * The page is not a guild’s home-page. Our homepage is situated in a privately owned forum, http://warriornation.net/. (I am not sure, if this is allowed? If it is not, I will remove it.)


 * "But, by the contributor's own admission above, this page's purpose (which has been the only thing contributed to by this user) is to serve as a build archive for their guild."


 * In my humble opinion, every user starts out with a sheet of clean paper, at least that is very true for new users. As time goes by, more and more things will be added on to it, to improve the page, for personal satisfaction to see the page grow etc. The reason why I came to know of the creation of userpage is due to http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:Builds_wipe.


 * May I quote from the page found in http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:Builds_wipe.


 * "Note that this policy does not affect user space! Anyone can post any builds they like in user space, providing they don't violate any user space policy."


 * Similarly, I have also know of users archiving builds. An example will be User:Dervish Mazta/builds/SF Elementalist. Unfortunately, not all builds are archived nor is there a definitive list of them. Also, kindly do advise me on the legality of the example given in the event that it is not allowed.


 * Subsequently admnistrator Barek, it would be very much appreciated if you are able to provide me guidance to any rules, regulations or guidelines herein stated for guildwiki.


 * Last but not least, I apologize for taking up all your precious time and causing any inconvenience. However, if there exists any further doubts, clarifications, I will be glad to offer my assistance.


 * Regards,
 * Ariel 13:07, 17 April 2007 (CDT) (PS: Thank you again to [[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] Gem for teaching me this. ^^)


 * I have a different view of the situation than Barek. Originally when this was discussed, I was asking for admins (I wasn't one at that time) to delete two user pages which I had found that were purely advertisements. One was a pure guild advertisement, the other an in game service advertisement. (users had no other contributions) Admins at that time said that those pages are allowed and should not be deleted. Those user pages still exist. There is nothing in the policies that prevents users from making their user page a pure advertisement and nothing requires hem to have any other contributions. I was and still am against allowing this kind of advertising, but currently it is definitely allowed. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 13:13, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Attribution in build archives
Hey. Be sure to properly attribute each build in your archive, lest it become a copyvio come the builds wipe. Either copy the entire history and save it (as a subpage or something) or make a list of contributors and attach it to the archived build. -Auron  05:56, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Mmmm.. I don't quite get what you mean :( I'm pretty new to Guildwiki :( Mmmm am i doing it the wrong way? Ariel 06:01, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Take a look at Builds wipe. Under Details, it states; "If you find a build you'd like to keep handy after the builds wipe, you can copy it into your userspace. You must copy the article history into your userspace as well to meet the license requirements!" Because the builds are being wiped, their history will be wiped as well; in order to give credit to the contributors, you must preserve the history yourself. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 06:10, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Does History = Discussion Page? If not, can you show me an example of a correct way to archive the history? Maybe a user that archived the history. Mmmm i looked at this one, http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/User:Auron_of_Neon/Archive_effort and then clicked the pve warrior builds found in there, it looks the same as mine.Ariel 06:16, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 * No, History and Talk page are different. Click the History tab next to the Edit button; that's the history. The two ways to copy histories are... like this, with each contributor listed, or this, with the history copy-pasted (onto the talk page). -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 06:33, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Okies this set of instruction is much clearer now. I will do it once i get back from lecture for the current ones i have before i add new ones. Thanks Ariel 06:37, 23 April 2007 (CDT)