User talk:Lann/PoS's

Ìf you feel any Elite PoS is added without it being shit, discuss here. Be bold and add PoS's yourself --- -- (s)talkpage 06:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * We don't have a BOLD policy. We badly need one though --Gimmethegepgun 06:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Uhu --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 06:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * WHAT!? A Wiki without a BOLD POLICY!?!?! That is the wiki motto!--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 06:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Go here and voice your opinion then. -- Shadow crest   05:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Done!
Woo, finished! I got most of em --Gimmethegepgun 06:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * hey. Check this out. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elementalist_skills_quick_reference#Water_Magic --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 06:48, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh...you have most of the obvious ones, but some of these I can't help but disagree on. Don't feel like bringing up the same old arguments again, though, I've done it too many times :P (T/C) 06:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Not all of them added by me. Alot added by other users. Feel free to discuss :D. That is what this talk page is for!--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 06:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And by "other users", naturally it means me :P --Gimmethegepgun 07:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course. Gimmethegepgun is the only other user on guildwiki :P--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 07:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, only you, me, and Viper added skills to this (MP did, but it wasn't an elite so I removed it), and I added about half of them --Gimmethegepgun 07:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol. Poor MP...--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 07:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * :( --[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 07:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Let me revise my assessment: This list sucks. You people /fail miserably except for the most obvious bad skills. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 07:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you're treating Cruel Spear unfairly. Don't forget it has very high bonus damage for a spear attack, and the Deep Wound is applied even when the attack doesn't hit. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * But what is better. Vicious attack + GftE (which is on most para) or Elite slot. I didn't add it :P--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 08:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed a bunch. Cruel spear needs to become unconditional though :/--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 08:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If you do not feel a skill needs to be in there, DISCUSS!--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 08:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * But I'd end up writing essays. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 08:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Then do so. It'll be fun. I hope you don't group Mind Blast with the other Mind skills, btw. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hell noes lol.--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 08:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

(RI)Well, Wounding Strike's removal can be discusses, I personally think it belongs here, however why did you remove PnH? --Gimmethegepgun 15:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * lol, "ends if you blink" --Gimmethegepgun 19:01, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm
We need to decide what we are going off of. Wounding strike is used in many 5.0 builds on pvx. Ride the lightning has one AB/RA build. Where should we draw the line?-- Lann 19:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Wounding Strike = gud. RtL phails :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * RtL RA/TA/AB build got a 4.12 :P--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 19:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Everything works in RA/AB, and TA is lamefest --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It would be overpowered without exhaustion though. I can see it now... Ride the Lightning assassins. 10 second recharge abuse rofl.--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 19:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hehehe. It should be: If you are not a Priamry Ele, you suffer from instant energy drain. Period. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok. What is the reasoning?--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 19:30, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Not spammable due to exhaustion, not all that much dmg. Ele frontliner? lulz --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I had an amazing sin build once with Ride the Lightning, Shock, and Gale. I could drop one target... per game. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 19:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno, Kunvie Firewing uses RtL pretty well. --Ruricu [[Image:SoD2.jpg|Shield of Deflection is purty!]] ( Talk • Contribs) 19:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it's not the best elite out there. But it isn't L.A.M.E., compared to skills like Archer's Signet.--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] Lann 19:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Kunvie has al of about 80 and deals 200 damage with it, no shit sherlock, also he has 10 energy regen and 27 energy storage with full radiant insignias and a +20 staff.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]ìğá†ħŕášħ  Talk^Cont 05:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hax.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 05:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * But srsly, Kunvie is strong, but shes a boss. Oni > Saltspray dragon in terms of power. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3"> Shadow crest   05:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I lawl at Oni. With H/H the dragons are immensely powerful, but Oni are pathetic --Gimmethegepgun 06:01, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Improvements
Should we make an improvements section :D-- <font color="#900020">Lann 21:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Magehunter's Smash
I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This attack cannot be blocked.
 * 4 Adrenaline cost

Incendiary Arrows
I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Increase duration to 24 seconds.
 * Remove interuption effect, change burn duration to 1...4...5 seconds.
 * I hope you mean to 1...4...5, rather than by 1..4..5. And if you did, this would make Burning Arrow inferior in every way I can think of except with BA you can have another preparation. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3"> Shadow crest   05:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops :P. Sry, bad wording. At least someone is looking at my work :D. I am trying to make these skills usable, but not overpowered.--[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px]] <font color="#900020">Lann 05:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Amity
I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Decrease duration to 5...15...17
 * Change effect to: target foe can not attack.

Strike as One
I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Change it to a preparation.
 * Change duration to 24 seconds.
 * Change effect to: you and your pet's attacks deal +4...9...10 damage.

Balthazar's Pendulum
I have no clue how this skill should be improved O.o

I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Change effect to: Next time target ally would be knocked down by a foe, that foe is knocked down instead and takes 30...150...180 damage.
 * Increase recharge to 8 seconds.

Healer's Covenant
This is way outclassed by Healer's Boon. I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: or or -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove "your healing Spells heal for 25% less Health" effect.
 * Allow Heroes to maintain this on their own.
 * Change upkeep to: For 10...46...55 seconds, your healing Spells heal for 25% less Health, but cost -1...3...3 Energy.
 * Allow heroes to maintain this on their own.
 * Change effect to: Your healing Spells heal for 25% less Health, but cost -1...3...3 Energy and recharge 25% faster.
 * Allow Heroes to maintain this on their own.

Martyr
Outclassed by Cautery Signet and Draw Conditions

I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Change skill from Unlinked to Protection Prayers.
 * Change cast time to 1/4 second.
 * Change effect to: Transfer all Conditions and their remaining durations from your allies to you. For each condition acquired, you gain 6...22...26 health. (Maximum duration of conditions 10 seconds).

Cruel Spear
I think the following improvements should be made to this skill: -- <font color="#900020">Lann 05:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Increase adrenal cost to 8.
 * Remove "If it hits a non-moving target" effect.