Talk:The Hero's Challenge

I do not believe "The Forgotten Ones" is a prerequisite of this quest. Can someone please verify this? --Karlos 15:49, 9 Jul 2005 (EST)

I don't know about "The Forgotten Ones" (although I doubt it too), but I am pretty sure that "The Hero's Journey" is not a requirement for this quest. If I remember correctly Vanyi offers both quests simultanously. I verify this when my next character get's there (which shouldn't take too long). --84.175.123.80 17:52, 9 Jul 2005 (EST)
 * I'm certain that neither are. --Talrath Stormcrush 14:39, 11 Jul 2005 (EST)


 * It depends...on what, I'm not sure... I've had it happen both ways -- some of my characters (notably, my Warrior) were able to receive Hero's Challenge immediately upon arrival at Droknar's Forge, and others had to do Hero's Journey first. --Razorfish

Hmm, so when I went through Ascension, I actually went to those towns, and there were no secondary profession quests available (and I had done Forgotten ones and Forgotten Wisdom). Yet, when I went to Vanyi, she only offered Hero's Journey. I went to all three places and got back to her, but she wouldn't give me Hero's Challenge. Only when I went back and looked at those towns I noticed the new Secondary profession quests (which were not there before). After doing one she gave me Hero's challenge. --Karlos 18:03, 9 Jul 2005 (EST)
 * You have to ascend before the profession quests are available. And you have to do one of them before Hero's Journey is available, as listed in the article.  I have no idea if Forgotten Ones is actually required.  --Fyren 23:32, 9 Jul 2005 (EST)
 * You mean Hero's Challenge? I did Hero's Journey without doing any of the secondary profession quests. --Karlos 07:16, 10 Jul 2005 (EST)
 * I was just commenting since you said you went through the desert and didn't find the profession quests. You can't get them till after you defeat your mirror.  --Fyren 13:57, 11 Jul 2005 (EST)

Been quite a while since I've done this. Is the first step as in the quest log really "go to Frozen Forest from Iron Mines?" --Fyren 05:43, 16 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * It is, but I do not think it is a requirement. i.e. if you come from the Coppermines, and meet Sanyi (just outside the door), the game will check that task. --Karlos 06:56, 16 Aug 2005 (EST)

I've noticed that if you die and are resurected Vanyi will not follow you.

I don't know why, but I get no dialogue from Sanyl. I've done this twice, once for myself and once with a friend to help them get it. And for some reason both times the only words I saw Sanyl say were '... after I swallow your soul!' right as she changes.

I don't understand this.. most quests have some story behind them but this seems to have been made in a random quest generator Oo 13:24, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, quest reward text:
 * Stay your hand !
 * Allow me to explain: My father was the famed Agostin of Ascalon's Chosen. Many years ago, he brought us to the mountains to leave behind the strife of guild warfare. But one day we were set upon by that demon, Mragga. It consumed my father and cast a spell on me, binding me to its will. For most of my life I have been prisoner, forced to lead the unsuspecting to their doom.


 * It always wanted me to seek out the most powerful, for it drew it's strength from those it absorbed. But you are a true hero... You were too powerful for the demon, and now I am free. I shall be forever in your debt.

Requirements checked
I picked up The Forgotten Ones, but have not completed it yet. I completed The Monk's Path, but The Hero's Journey is still in complete because I haven't re-visited those outposts after taking the quest. The Hero's Challenge is available to me. - 02:11, 11 July 2006 (CDT)

New Requirement
In one of the recent updates, unsure as of now as to which update, you now need to do in addition to the previously stated requirements but to beat dragon's lair in addition.
 * Just checked 3 minutes ago. My warrior has not completed Dragon's Lair mission, but the Hero's Challenge mission is available to her. Build 18334. - 17:34, 29 July 2006 (CDT)

how long ago was this char made? was the warrior older than 1 week? if so, then I believe it has been recently deployed. I had to complete dragon's lair in order to get this quest. This is ofcourse after I had changed my character's secondary in cantha than tyria paths with my tyria born char who is one week old.


 * Hmm, yeah my character is a few months old. So different requirements for characters of different age?  weird. - 11:36, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I believe it would be an easy blanket method to simply allow those characters who are already so old to not have to conform to new policies and updates in terms of quests and missions. This maybe simply following the path of the grandfather's law.  Could this simply suggested that this would be a new requirement for those characters who are new?
 * But there's no reason to do something like that. It's not "more fair" to let old characters not do DL first if this has actually changed.  The reason to not do it is to not make extra work.  --68.142.14.19 11:24, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I've created a char yesterday, and without DL, I'm doing this quest right now. Foo 12:29, 23 August 2006 (CDT)