Talk:Sword

These swords in-game?
Can anybody confirm or disconfirm that any of the following swords are in the game?: These swords are listed on several websites and in the Prima Guide, but I have never seen them in the game myself. --Tetris L 18:44, 16 Sep 2005 (EST)
 * Ascalon Razor (collector / crafter weapon?)
 * Canthan Blade
 * Canthan Machete
 * Canthan Saber
 * Canthan Shortsword
 * Crusader's Sword
 * Krytan Sword
 * Longclaw
 * Rekki Blade
 * Rinblade (collector / crafter weapon?)
 * Sephis Sword
 * Shining Gladius
 * Wyvern Blade


 * Yes, I think the Rinblade comes from crafters, never seen any of the other ones either. --Eightyfour-onesevenfive 19:05, 16 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * Confirmed. You can get a "Rinblade" from Penelope Hoode, a collector in Old Ascalon. And the "Ascalon Razor" is available from Louise Haup in Piken Sqare. --Tetris L 19:13, 16 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * This list has to go from this page. It makes no sense to say: Here is a list of all swords, and... For a list of all swords see Category:Swords. The list is either here or in the category. I would agree if you list TYPES of sword (as I thought the list would be). i.e. show a picture of a sword and then all the names of swords that look like that. I'm not very good with swords, but for Hammers, there are a few hammers that have the Ram's head, a few that have the big ball at the end... etc. I am assuming swords are the same. But, please, no dredundant lists. --Karlos 20:23, 16 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * I'd agree if the Category:Swords list was complete. But it isn't. As long as it isn't complete, the list shows us which ones are missing. --Tetris L 20:47, 16 Sep 2005 (EST)
 * On a side note, I was thinking about going even 1 step further and create a GALLERY of all the sword images. --Tetris L 20:47, 16 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * Just to bring it up again... With all the new weapons being introduced with factions, I think we should remove the lists of weapon types from their main articles. Reasons:
 * The lists will become very long over time. Just wait for chapter three...
 * There are weapons with a common name and different designs. A Canthan Sickle looks different from a Tyrian Sickle. List it two times? Once for each continent?
 * I would agree to a seperate article, something like "Sword/List of all swords", just for reference what we have documented and what not, like suggested by tetris up there, way back then. But I don't see a place for this in the article "Sword". --84-175 (talk) 15:03, 30 April 2006 (CDT)

Sword speed
it is not true that swords swing every 1.00 seconds. I tested it several times - they swing at 1.33 seconds, same speed as an axe.
 * From what I've read elsewhere (forgot where) I agree. Sward and axe have same speed, hammer slower. -PanSola 17:39, 14 February 2006 (CST)

something's getting old
Every now and then an anon comes in and edit the hammer or the axe article to say the sword swings once every second, and then I revert them.

Now, if they were doing it on the Sword article, I feel absolutely proper to add a big note saying "There is a general conception that swords swing once every 1 second, however that is not true. To discuss this issue, see Talk:Sword".

However, to add that to hammer, axe, and dagger, and whatever other weapons, seems like a bad idea to me.

Sigh, why do those anons edit every article BUT the sword article?

sorry, just ranting. -PanSola 17:13, 24 February 2006 (CST)

(oops, to be fair, the sword article did get one anon edit that made it 1 sec). -PanSola 17:13, 24 February 2006 (CST)

External link?
Is that external link needed anymore? We have plenty of pictures of swords here on GuildWiki. --Draygo Korvan 14:05, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

Eternal Sword?
Since the 15th of June update, the Zaishen Warrior in Defeating the Unworthy now uses one:



I couldn't find any references to Eternal Sword, so i believe this is new and the item maybe be droppable, or this is a mind trick and him always used one? -- duckman 17:36, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
 * "S-words. These are words that begin with the letter S." I couldn't resist. In any case, is there any confirmation about this "Eternal Sword"-thing? This is one sword I've been dying to get ever since I first got into the Crystal Desert, over a year ago. --Black Ark 02:11, 7 July 2006 (CDT)

A-net is anti-sword
I think A-net is anti-sword! They nerfed almost every sword skill, and it's for this that many people use axes. Glenn 12:05, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 * I think you are an idiot. &mdash; Skuld 12:24, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 * Thanks, idiot. Glenn 15:18, 1 December 2006 (CST)
 * I should show my gf this on why we shouldn't have children. Please refrain from flaming. &mdash; Gares 15:33, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Sorry, stressed out &mdash; Skuld 15:36, 1 December 2006 (CST)

highest sword dmg w/ no req
The article suggests that the highest sword damage req = 0 is 8-10, however the Candy cane sword from Winterdays has 10-10 dmg and no reqs.

Average damage
Am doing tests on Isle of the Nameless to figure out some stuffs (see Talk:Damage calculation). I got the following data. Please note that this is simply copied and pasted from Excel both to save time and to save converting into wiki table code; thus, in order for the numbers to make sense, you need to view the coding for this paragraph (edit button ftw).

Weapon	Damage	Count	Average Sword	15	9	135 16	21	336 	17	15	255 	18	16	288 	19	27	513 	20	21	420 	21	18	378 	22	13	286 	Total	140	18.65

--Armond Warblade (talk) 18:22, 18 March 2007 (CDT)


 * 140 isn't a very large sample. --Fyren 21:02, 18 March 2007 (CDT)


 * There's only eight possible values. Crits always did 31, same as staffs, in case anyone wondered. --Armond Warblade (talk) 22:30, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Average is 18.5. [(22-15)/2]+15=18.5--Darksyde Never Again 22:43, 19 July 2007 (CDT)