Talk:Drop rate/Gift of the Traveler

This page doesn't have the 10 Hunter's Ales (not aged) drop. I'd add it myself, but I have no idea how. --Totally Imbalanced 00:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe it's not there because none of the people listing their drops have gotten it yet. Technically there should also be Vampiric Dragon Sword, etc. -Phazor 00:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I got the Ales, and someone will eventually get the VDS. The Mini Gwen Doll, Mini Professor, Mini Brown Rabbit, 5 Crates of Fireworks, Everlasting Cottontail, Traveler's Bo Staff, Ascalon Razor, and Icy Dragon Sword also need to be added.  Again, I'd do it but have no idea how. --Totally Imbalanced 00:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can figure it out when I have more time. -Phazor 02:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, added those that you listed. If you think of or see more, just tell me.  Basically to add the columns I just followed the template that had already been set. -Phazor 03:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, Totally Imbalanced. You forgot one of the gifts that you got (you put 10 as the total, but you only put 9 gifts).  I don't know if you remember what that last gift was so that we can get it back to a multiple of 5. -Phazor 01:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My bad. Fix'd and updated totals. --Totally Imbalanced 01:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Just post or pre also?

 * is this just post data or do we want pre also here? NCA 23:05, 26 April 2009 (EST)
 * It's just post. You can start one for Pre, though. [[Image:Sunsmoonsig.jpg]] talk & cont  07:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Have done so, at Gift of the Huntsman NCA 17:42, 27 April 2009 (EST)

Tempted...
I'm tempted to make a note at the bottom saying to please update the totals and percentages whenever you add your drops/gifts to the table. I've had to correct it three times so far, and it will probably continue. A note might reduce some of that. I won't do anything until given permission, though. -Phazor 03:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally wasn't certain as to who is doing the updating and such, so left it alone. A note would help a lot. NCA 1:51, 27 April 2009 (EST)
 * Okay, I added the note at the top. If anyone finds the wording to be confusing, please change it so that it is not. -Phazor 23:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

My data
I suck at editing tables and really don't know how to go about doing it. Here's what I got from five packages: 5 mysterious summoning stones 5 mysterious tonics 5 cottontail tonics 10 champagne poppers 5 green rock candies
 * Can't do anything with that if you don't sign it. -Phazor 04:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I looked at entering the data and it looked pretty tricky. Would someone be willing to enter? Here's my data: 5 blue rock candies, 10 bottle rockets, 5 crates of fireworks, 5 crates again, 10 jars of honey Truemyths 04:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I added my data, but I'm not 100% sure how to calculate the percentages at the bottom. -Zyanya386 09:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * do you have a spreadsheet program? I use OpenOffice, but Microsoft Excel should work just as fine. You can just copy and paste the whole table (without sum line) in there, then calculate the new totals and percentages with relative ease. You'll have to copy&paste those values back one by one, but it's still faster than counting it all yourself :) Ailar 16:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Vertical text
The text in top row that say what item each colomn is for, can be vertically written using style="writing-mode:tb-rl; white-space: nowrap;" in the row or in each cell. I'm going to try this on w:c:fr.guildwars:Cadeau du Voyageur/taux de drop... — TulipVorlax


 * Ok, after testing, it need to be putted on each cell :


 * — TulipVorlax 02:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Odds/expecations based drop data
(As of about 15 minutes before this post), there were 1006 entries (on the official site§). And the percentages of drops based on type are as follows:


 * {| class="stdt"

! Type !! %
 * Drunk || 15.71%
 * Mini || 0.40%
 * Other || 0.20%
 * Party || 20.08%
 * Summon Stone || 34.79%
 * Sweet || 23.56%
 * Tonic || 3.58%
 * Weapon || 1.69%
 * }
 * §I used the official wiki's date for three reasons: (a) they had more data, (b) I computed the avgs on my own, (c) I was too lazy to recalculate using the data here.
 * Sweet || 23.56%
 * Tonic || 3.58%
 * Weapon || 1.69%
 * }
 * §I used the official wiki's date for three reasons: (a) they had more data, (b) I computed the avgs on my own, (c) I was too lazy to recalculate using the data here.
 * Weapon || 1.69%
 * }
 * §I used the official wiki's date for three reasons: (a) they had more data, (b) I computed the avgs on my own, (c) I was too lazy to recalculate using the data here.

&mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 18:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

(As of about 15 minutes before this post), there 3,424 entries (on the official site§).


 * §I used the official wiki's date for three reasons: (a) they had more data, (b) I computed the avgs on my own, (c) I was too lazy to recalculate using the data here.
 * §§The expected value is based on each gift drop's merch value, gwauctions typical price, or average WTB/WTS prices as seen in the game.
 * &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 16:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Invalid rows
Currently there are 340 Gifts entered, but the sums of the column totals add up to 346. Originally, there were 6 invalid rows in there, where the sum of the entries was higher than the value in the first column (one of them is off by 2). Somewhat embarassingly, one of the entries was mine :S I've corrected that one, but as I don't know if we'll be able to correct the others, should those rows just be deleted? They're the rows which are signed as follows:
 * --NCA On behalf of a guildie 17:57, 27 April 2009 (EST)
 * -- Zyanya386 09:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * --GW-Topinambour 15:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yujiko Ineluki 16:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Viruzzz 08:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I would think that we should separate them from the grand total (either new table or separate section) until/unless the users re-confirm their counts. Doing so will have low impact on total numbers but high impact on the credibility. What do other people think?  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 18:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Good idea (I'm somewhat late to reply, because I really couldn't be bothered to farm Mandragor Roots last week...). So I started the new section now - currently there's only one faulty row though, looks like someone cleaned up the rest -- Ailar 19:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

More confusion
I've been visiting the wiki for going on three years now, yet I am still a complete wikinoob and have no idea how to add to this chart without completely screwing up the data and making it all look like gobbledygook. (On a side note, the Firefox spellcheck apparently liked that word... but not the word "spellcheck"). Anyways, last week, on Sunday June 07, I got: 5 merch stones, 10 bottle rockets, 10 champagne poppers, 5 mysterious summoning stones, and... *drumroll please* an Inscribable IDS! That would be the first to be added to the chart, so I thought it was worth trying to figure out how to put it in. Thanks to anyone that can do this for me. :) 72.68.45.67 22:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)