User:JediRogue/Archival


 * 1) purpose of archives
 * 2) *Reduce the load time of a page
 * 3) *Retain records of past discussions for future reference
 * 4) difference between main and userspace archives
 * 5) *between ip talk pages and registered users
 * 6) moves versus copy and paste
 * 7) *Copying and pasting will preserve the history of the discussion on the original talk page
 * 8) *Moving will bring the entire history to the archived page.
 * 9) ease of archive navigation
 * 10) *Archiving too frequently can mean way too many archives to sort through.
 * 11) when can content be removed and restored
 * 12) *how to find that content again in the archives
 * 13) admins' discretion on what is important site related content that shouldn't be hidden.
 * 14) *Admins may decide that the archival/removal of content was inappropriate and restore it.
 * 15) *This seems to count as administrating users more than administrating content
 * 16) separated from user talk page policy
 * 17) *Is there more than on issue being discussed? Do we need separate policies?
 * 18) archiving "live" discussions.
 * 19) *How does one determine if a discussion is still "live"?
 * 20) *Users "hiding" and effectively ending discussions by archiving them.
 * 21) Userspace freedom
 * 22) purposes of talk pages.
 * 23) *To discuss issues with the user.
 * 24) *Our user talk space is closer to forums
 * 25) Unarchiving
 * 26) *When is it appropriate
 * 27) *How does it work with GW:1RV
 * 28) *Noting it in the edit summary to make it visible when viewing page history
 * 29) *Does the entire page get unarchived? or just the section copy and pasted back to current talk
 * 30) Content removal
 * 31) *Most users agree that they should be allowed to remove content from their talk pages at will.
 * 32) *When removed content can clearly be seen in the page history, this is not as big a deal. When its completely hidden by C&P archives, it is much harder to retrieve.
 * 33) *Removed content should be clearly noted in the edit summery to make it easier to retrieve.
 * 34) *Removed content can be denoted by a link to the page history showing the removal.
 * 35) *Removing some content can be misleading. Are we willing to let only select portions of a conversation be seen.
 * 36) Additional talk-page content
 * 37) *Rate-a-user and guestbook etc contributes to the size of the page. Are they included in archives?

bah not sure where to put this: if content is removed from a talk page, it must be clearly indicated in the edit summery so it can be found in the page history. If the page is archived by a move, then the history will follow the page and it is fine. if the page is archved by c&p, then the archive must clearly indicate its start and end dates so that removed comments can be found in the history. If comments are removed from a page, it has to be noted on the page. vandalism, doesn't count. this is especially important for controvertial discussions on: policy violations, site related issues; essentially, if its something that people might be linking to from off your page, either from noticeboard, community portal, or whatever, it is probably something that should be easy to find and read.

Make use of permanent link option?

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 * Only revert once - how it applies to a talk page owner archiving and rearchiving awakened topics.
 * Article retention
 * Administrate users, not content
 * Quietly deal with vandals - removing content from the talk pages of vandals which basically is just a violation of QDV
 * questionable hidden and archived discussion
 * other related in warwick's archives (I had to find this with Auron's contribs. To examine Warwick's archives is way too time consuming. Consider this part of the issue)