Talk:Holy Spear

Seems a bit overpowered compared to Banishing Strike, except for that rare case where the Derv hits more than one Summoned creature. That's pretty rare in PvE, and in PvP you learn to spread your Spirits / don't raise massive Minion armies. Except maybe AB. But you get my point. (T/C) 00:26, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * You also have to consider the damage range on scythes and the fact that you need to build up adrenaline. Think back to Furious Axe back when it was 9 strikes of adrenaline, and now it's 5e, 6r. It's quite strong as is, but the potential is lost due to other skills being more wanted. This is just a standard anti-spirit/minion skill for Paragons should they ever need it. --Kale Ironfist 00:30, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Max damage minimum on a Scythe is 9, attacks slower, is not ranged, Aggressive Refrain or Soldier's Fury or whatever... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:46, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Max damage is 41, has 3/4 activation attacks and can attack more than one target. Plus the upcoming Pious Fury, which is in the same line as Pious Haste. I just don't see this getting use since Spear of Redemption has the same bonus damage at a lower adrenaline cost and an arguably better secondary effect. --Kale Ironfist 01:59, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

SPEAR OF ACHILLES! Zulu Inuoe 08:56, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

This is actually the first adrenaline spear attack with bonus damage. Much wanted. Zyber 09:29, 13 August 2007 (CDT)


 * Umm... I hope you mean that extra holy damage when you say bonus damage... --Gimmethegepgun 09:31, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

AB
I SMITE THEE DOWN, EVIL MINION MANIPULATORS!!! --Lann 16:48, 13 August 2007 (CDT)


 * You know what's the worst part? This and Banishing Strike are far better options for killing minions than pretty much everything in Smiting, which is supposed to demolish undead! Give me a break, this even has an acceptable AoE range (unlike a certain elite smiting skill) and is much more spammable! --Gimmethegepgun 19:51, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Or just Judge's Insight on your physical? Add on Zealot's fire spammage? --Kale Ironfist 20:27, 13 August 2007 (CDT)