Talk:Game updates/20070524

<-- Moved from Talk:Game updates --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:49, May 25, 2007 (CDT)

This had BETTER not be true
Every person in Urgoz's Warren American District 1 says that the update today, May 24, 2007 at 8:00 PMish EDT just nerfed drops and experience from suicidals, in HM and NM, and so the solo trapper/spirit farmer in urgoz has effectively been nerfed. If this is true, I just lost my 20k a day benefits :(. Can anyone confirm or deny it? Nhnowell 20:02, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * A Gimmick build designed to Solo Farm an Elite Mission was nerfed? Those Bastards! Now we might have to Join a Real Team and Actually Do the Mission! Nooooo!!! --- 67.172.14.127 20:04, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * What's the benefit from suiciding anyway? Please explain. Alaris 20:13, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * People were using spirits to farm the Vampires. They'd use Suicide Health and the like to explode on the spirits and drop loot. --Xiu Kuro 23:17, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * You seriously weren't expecting that? Lol.. &mdash; Skuld 20:21, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

May 24/25 update
All armour is now inscribable- older Tyrian and Canthan sets have been changed to reflect this. Update notes aren't up yet, but it's worth mentioning. :) -- Elveh 20:06, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Awesome, time to change my helmet into Dreadnought's instead of stupid Radiant. And maybe buy another for axes. --Kale Ironfist 21:18, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * How should we go about doing the rewards page for pvp...under Tolkano or a new page--Warior kronos 21:21, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * This must be the best update since new storage! however this pvp skin thing could quite possibly be the worst kinda like loot scaling and hard mode :/--Diddy Bow 08:17, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

wiki
whoa does that mean there is actually some reason to work on that "official" thing they have? /wiki loads a page? idk i gotta think about this...&mdash; JediRogue  21:00, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Surely this will only make them a prime target for vandalism :( --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:03, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Anet's wiki is trying to compete with Guildwiki? If they are this is quite a cheap shot. Unofficial wiki ftw M s4 21:08, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Idk I don't see why they started it. Maybe they had that in mind all along and couldnt have used this wiki for that. But let see, if they came up to our esteemed admins and offered to do that to guildwiki.. could that work? am i even making sense? not sure...&mdash; JediRogue  [[Image:JediRogueSig.jpg]] 21:11, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Just to make sure you know JediRogue... they were planning to add wiki support to Guild Wars ever since they made the official wiki. Their only problem was due to how GuildWiki had their licensing (which prevented it being used for profit IIRC, and therefore ArenaNet couldn't use it). --Kale Ironfist 21:18, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * As I understand it, there was some discussions between GuildWiki and ArenaNet, the big problem was to do with copyrights and the licensing arrangements (GuildWiki being more "open source" and so no one person can claim "ownership" to an article, but rather is a collective of a history of edits, therefore Anet would need to seek permission from every one of those editors to legially be able to use the article from here. An impossible task). --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:19, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * It was as Kale said. Our CC license uses the "no commercial use" clause.  ANet thought about funding us, but then thought that directing people to the wiki would possibly violate that since it would clearly enhance GW itself.  Getting permission from editors is the only alternative to using our license.  --Fyren 22:07, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I kinda figured it was something like that. I've kinda been avoiding thinking about the whole official wiki thing... so, is it identical but with official status and stuff? &mdash; JediRogue  [[Image:JediRogueSig.jpg]] 22:14, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * ...and different license. Anet provides the hardware and bandwidth, up to the GW community to maintain it. Sadly, when first signed up on that wiki, figured they'd be able to "dump" alot of the info from their database (dialogues, stats etc), but seem they no willing / able to do that, so in effect does replicate much of what GuildWiki does, but just under different licensing agreements. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 22:30, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * an offical wiki evangalist friend of mine keeps professing that they have extra insight, one would think they would be prepared for this in advance would that were the case, but as of this writing, they still list old armor names. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 01:21, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Extra insight? I'm pretty sure Gaile said that they weren't going to do much, leaving most of it for the community to add and edit. The only things I know of on the official wiki that were added there by ArenaNet members were armor renders. Then again, I don't visit that often, and the last visit was a long time ago. --Kale Ironfist 01:25, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

armor
so we gonna start calliing it elite armor instead of ascended armor? and I don't even want to think what the insignia stuff means for my armor when i get back... &mdash; JediRogue  23:09, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
 * not much choice, anet has changed the in game name, so thusly done. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 01:23, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
 * did they change the name of ascended armor in factions? &mdash; JediRogue  [[Image:JediRogueSig.jpg]] 01:24, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes they did. They are now Elite Armor. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 11:25, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

All warrior obsidian armor (including all helms) now requires deldrimor steel instead of other rare materials like silk or elonian leather. (just wasted a trip) - Mr Gifford
 * Finally, my warrior can wear a Wyvern Helm and a Charr Hide helm with his Canthan armor, withOUT them being linked to a specific mod! Also nice to be able to wear the old Prophecies hydromancer coat(my fave ele armor) without getting stuck with a hydromancer's mod. Good thing I've stored up a ton of mats, prices are definitely on the rise. Kinda sucks for my ranger and mesmer though, both of them had 2 collectors masks, dyed and infused...now they lost the inherent radiant mod but can't be inscribed either, so if I want that extra energy point, I'd have to craft 4 new helms, buy 4 radiant insignias(2k last I looked), use 4 green dyes, and reinfuse 4 times. Forget that, I'll take the 1 energy loss! DKS01 03:15, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
 * OH I WANT TO EXPLOIT THE ECONOMY! WHY MUST MY PC BE DOWN NOW!!!!&mdash; JediRogue  [[Image:JediRogueSig.jpg]] 03:16, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

ping
Anyone noticed you cannot seem to send templates to chat properly anymore? You get the same thing as a failed ping. Methinks they broke something :( 203.5.70.1 06:27, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Mesmer /flex
GuildWiki Notes This is not new. The female mesmer /flex has always been that (unique) way Ctarl 11:10, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
 * The "/flex" emote for female mesmers has been changed. Now they kneel on one knee while holding up the other leg and then flex one arm upwards while looking straight forward.

my friend tells me it hasnt changed too &mdash; Skuld 11:30, 25 May 2007 (CDT)
 * [[image:femalemesmerflexfromfebruary2007.jpg]] - taken on February. Foo 13:18, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

My fiancee and I noticed the same thing. Let's remove that note then. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 14:44, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

Armor set page titles
Shall we come to a consensus as to whether the word 'armor' should be capitalized in the titles of the armor pages? Currently they are capitalized but the list here is using lowercase, causing some pages to be moved to lowercase (and those not affected by the armor name changes to remain uppercase). &mdash; kyrasantae   17:38, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

New items
it says in the notes, "New weapon skins added to the game. These now have a chance of dropping from the end reward chest found in both The Deep and Urgoz's Warren", what new weapons skins were added? 125.60.241.202 23:35, 25 May 2007 (CDT)


 * yes the chests are the same, so far ive heard of a crab hammer and seen a sepentine wand, im sure there is more :)--Diddy Bow 12:43, 26 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Does anyone have the names of the Urgoz and Kanaxai chests? -- Gordon Ecker 20:27, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Here's a screenshot of "Kanaxai's Chest" I found: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/sm284614/deepdrops-1.jpg &mdash; [[Image:Fin_sig.gif|User:Kyrasantae]] kyrasantae   21:19, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Are the new items from Elite chests inscribable? 125.60.241.202
 * Yes they are. &mdash; [[Image:Fin_sig.gif|User:Kyrasantae]] kyrasantae   21:54, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

level 20 collect armor
''Lower-level collector armor pieces from Prophecies and Factions now support insignias. Level 20 collector armor does not.''
 * does anyone know which level 20 collectors they are referring to? -- Xeon 12:34, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I'd assume they mean all max-AL armor. --Fyren 12:37, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Thats what i thought but i just put a blessed insignia on a pair of krytan boots i bought from Oroku, am i missing something? factions has low level collector armour? -- Xeon 12:42, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
 * it must be referring to these Ranger collector armor, the oroku must be excluded from the lvl 20 thing >_> -- Xeon 12:47, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
 * My mistake, its referred to as a armor person and not an armor collector. 12:56, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

New weapon skins?
Do Tribal Effigy Shield,Sephis Sword,Sephis Scepter and Bladed Buckler actually drop from Urgoz's Warren and The Deep?This page says they do but page of Tribal Effigy Shield says its PvP only,Bladed Buckler page says nobody knows where it drops,Sephis Sword page does not mention that it drops from these chests and Sephis Scepter page doesn't even exist...So anyone knows if they ever dropped here or not?IMO we need to make this clear because it's very confusing to anyone who tries to find these weapons.Any help would be appreciated ;-) T  A  L  K   Contributions  19:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm very dubious about these skins. There's a lengthy debate on Guru about them and I see Marco deleted the actual Sephis Scepter page altogether. The first mention of the scepter on this page was an addition by an IP here - http://guildwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Game_updates/20070524&oldid=877271 - if there is NO evidence supporting this weapon after fifteen months, I suggest it be removed. Would do it myself, but I'd like to see some feedback from the cognoscenti first. -- Snog  rat [[Image:User Snograt signature.png]] 11:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)