Talk:Guide to defeating Magni the Bison/Archive 1

Pretty useless IMHO. Having an anti-Bison build is no good if that build is not versatile enough to make it through the previous five rounds of the tournament, during which many different opponents can come up as opponents. Should be moved and expanded to something like Guide to beating the Norn Fighting Tournament or similar. --Roland of Gilead (talk) 04:54, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah fuck it, lets rub our wieners together. --DEATHWING 05:02, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Agreed. If anything, PvX should accommodate the NFT builds rather than litter them here. But deathwing's comment makes me virtually step away from him. lol Flechette 05:45, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I /agree with Roland. Rather create a guide that includes everyone you fight against, not just one person. Silver Sunlight [[Image:SSunlight.jpg|19px]] 05:53, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I vote for moving the article to "Guide to beating The Norn Fighting Tournament" and expanding the content to all oponents idea. --  Glamtre  [[Image:Axe-icon-right.png]] (Contribs) 18:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I dont see the problem here just a matter of using ursan blessing a bow and distracting shot and its easy.

My page still pwns this out of the water. The problem with the Ursan Blessing/Dshot combo is that it requires Ranger primary or secondary, Skills which you may not have, finding a free long-range Bow, and most importantly the fact that that's still not a 100% guaranteed victory in and of itself. (T/C) 01:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My mesmer tried the Ursan/Dshot build. Even with Favorable Winds and Read the Wind, I still can't interrupt him with recurve bow (couldn't find longbow, but flatbow failed).  I also didn't have Summon Mursaat, so I brought my own Black Widow instead (higher armor than Mursaat I'd expect).  Turns out Bison has some bad AI that would cause him to randomly run around at times (always after killing the Black Widow).  I have 100% success defeating him by keeping my Ursan run buff on and keep a safe distance from him. Not sure when the bug will be fixed...  My build was:

with 12 mark, 12 beast, 3 Inspiration. Distraction Shot and Comfort Animal turn out to be completely useless, and Inspired Enchantment is only needed against Mhenlo. Mhenlo is slightly harder to kill than Bison, but I still can win 100% the time (drag out the fight and keep removing enchants, then spike him with Ursan 3-hit damage). -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 11:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

What's with all the builds requiring a particular combination of professions? It seems that a lot of people have the idea that M. Bison is unbeatable without extensive use of a secondary profession and/or high rank pve-only skills, which is completely wrong. I've added single-class builds for the ones that didn't have them (which was most of them). Even if it takes a bit of luck to draw suitable preceding opponents, it's vastly cheaper to take two or three tries to beat the tournament than to spend 5k or so on secondary profession skills. -User:Quizzical

Dervish Build
The Dervish build seems a little cyclical, as it requires a skill that you get by defeating Magni in the first place. Draxynnic 05:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Monk
I used something like this with my Monk:

Precast Reversal, get in melee range and KD. Make chain up to Holy Strike, cast reversal, Continue Chain. Kite and keep casting Reversal to negate damage. This build rips up any build thrown at you before getting to Magni. Magni will take about 2 mins.

Magni will own you. Just use a 55 monk? --DEATHWING 22:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)