Talk:Vow of Strength

more damage in exchange for not being able to use atatck skills. no thanks. --Life Infusion 23:10, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
 * 0.17*41 = 6.97
 * 0.21*41 = 8.61
 * This is multiplicative, though, while spells like Strength of Honour and Order of Pain are additive. I'd imagine it's ended to be run with Judge's Insight to stack together, up to almost 50% more damage.  The sad thing is, though, that Judge's Insight alone gives about 23% more damage against 60 AL targets...  Elite you can only use on yourself or non elite that can be maintained on 2 people? Hmm.  Hard choice <_< Merengue 23:19, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, it's a piece of crap IMHO. 70.64.7.224 00:15, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Don't judge too soon, we still don't know how will this work with critical hits; Like A/D that uses Scythe. Lightblade 17:32, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
 * A/D using Scythes will use Way of the Assassin. --Theeth (talk)   17:50, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Both are elites, so it can be hard... Archeont 02:00, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
 * What would be hard? Choosing Way of the Assassins instead of Vow of Strength? --Theeth (talk)   17:21, 22 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Sorry, I just thought that you wanted both skills. Sorry, I'm stupid.Archeont 11:53, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Nah, you combine this with Judges insight and you can deal 163 damage per critical to a spellcaster (which seemed to happen often for me...). 92 is the critical for 16 scythe mastery + 44% = 132 damage and when you throw on 20% AP you increase the damage by 31 points! [[Image:Chuiu Me Icon.png|Chuiu]] (T/C) 19:04, 5 November 2006 (CST)

Update
Vow of Strength now scales 5...41...50 [52], 5+(3X)%. Now it's a bit crazy. For comparison, Frenzy boosts damage by a similar margin, with 33% faster attack rate equating to 50% more damage. The important part is that this stacks with, as mentioned, Judge's Insight, and an attack speed buff like Frenzy or Heket's Rampage to deal some crazy damage. We're talking crits that go up into the mid 100's on 60 AL targets. It HURTS. Throw in a GFtE paragon, and you're set for some insane damage. On a fun, unimportant note, with Shadowy Burden in the mix, I've gotten crits for 240. Very fun spell. Merengue 02:44, 30 October 2006 (CST)