Talk:Shove

Can someone tell me why this is good, because I really, really don't see it. Kessel 04:13, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

Lose all adrenaline, disables skills, elite...nope, I don't see it either. 213.--[[User:Dirigible|Dirigible 04:50, 21 July 2006 (CDT)84.230.131]] 14:09, 29 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Combos with Falling Spider really well. Nice up front damage too. --Draygo Korvan (Yap) 14:11, 29 June 2006 (CDT)


 * It's a good skill to use in The Deep versus Kanaxai and Kanaxai's Aspects. -Gares 11:59, 12 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Well, I can understand that it's basically an unconditional and immediate-activation knockdown that doesn't require adrenaline buildup. But you have to admit losing all adrenaline and disabling skills are some pretty heavy prices to pay. When you /need/ that knockdown, sure, but... Maybe just me, but too many penalties. Definitely has application in certain situations, though. Kessel 07:11, 1 July 2006 (CDT)

This might not be a bad elite if they removed the lose all adrenaline and skill disable part.. &mdash; Skuld  08:09, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
 * That would actually make it a quite awesome elite IMHO. An unconditional, unpenalized knockdown for non-hammer warriors. :-) -- 213.113.67.150 11:08, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Compare it to shock - it's just like shock but without the recurring 3 exhaustion if used every 20 secs (skill only allows this) and a bit more damage. &mdash; Skuld  11:16, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Tactics? The skill itself, the boss you get it from; you'd think Strength would be a better attribute for this. I like the knockdown, I like the damage, but there's too many cons for this one. There's a crapload of better KD-skills, and most of them won't even take up your elite-slot... --Black Ark 02:50, 15 July 2006 (CDT)

For Warriors, disabling your non attack skills for a few seconds is not a big deal at all. Renegade of Funk 03:20, 20 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Sure... &mdash; Skuld  04:19, 20 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I have never ONCE used rush on my warrior. Renegade of Funk 03:34, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Maybe you should try it :p Just saying it is a big deal to the large ammount of rush and other non-attack adrenal users &mdash; Skuld  04:25, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Who uses rush? No really, just use Sprint :P Renegade of Funk 04:28, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * This also disables Sprint. And Heal Sig. And any stances. And other nifty skills like that. --Dirigible 04:31, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Disable = lose all adrenaline &mdash; Skuld  04:36, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * [[Image:Shove_disabled_skills.jpg]]
 * --Dirigible 04:50, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

I see an uncharged rush, are you proving my point? :s &mdash; Skuld  04:51, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

Ok im taking on 2 people now. Dirgible: You have to not be dumb to use skills that disable other skills. Also, I have NO IDEA what that build is gonna do/what it accomplishes (I AM NOT calling you dumb). Skuld: Use your adrenaline skills before you use shove. Renegade of Funk 04:53, 21 July 2006 (CDT)