User talk:Specter

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Please don't add the snow skills to Category:Skills (Core). &mdash; Stabber 12:43, 11 March 2006 (CST)

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Hey thanks, it worked. &mdash; Specter 4:04, 23 June 2006 (EST)

Skills on monsters/NPCs
It's nice that you are working on the skill icons for the NPC pages. However, don't mark elite skills as elites unless the monster/NPC is a boss. It was decided long time ago that only the elites of boss monsters are marked, because t is the only place where it is relevant. -- 15:33, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Actually, I'm not sure anymore. I saw that Bishop had added the elite note on one NPC, so you better ask PanSola or something before adding or removing them from any article. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 15:36, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I noticed that the henchman have their elites marked as such, so I followed suite. &mdash; Specter 5:32, 23 June 2006 (EST)
 * That's the problem. So many pages use different styles and it's not easy to remember what is used where. I'm sorry to disturb with this, but asking someone who knows would be the best opton. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 15:40, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Some of the henchmen (Luxons including: Aurora, Seaguard Gita, Argo, etc) are bosses in a particular mission, and you can capture Elites from them there.- Greven 15:46, 23 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Where was that decision? - 15:51, 23 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Everyone has been saying this whenever someone adds the note of a skill being elite to a monster article. I don't know where this decision was made and when, and I'm not sure if it also includes NPCs, but I thought it would. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 16:00, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I've also seen this given as a reason for removing an 'elite' tag next to elite skills for monster articles, although I've never removed them myself. I have no idea where or if this has been discussed, or if it's just something that became a defacto standard that's just part of tradition in how it was done before. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 16:05, 23 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Let's find the prior decision before saying there is a prior decision, so in case there isn't (and someone was simply saying it mistakenly or to make the point stronger) we don't propagate the error. Or start a new discussion on it.  And don't confuse the discussion on whether Location articles should have a "Skill Capture" section with that issue. - 16:09, 23 June 2006 (CDT)


 * It will be easier jsut to discuss this again. i think this is not the best place, but I'm going to bed soon and want to say my opinnion. I think we should (ofcourse) mark the elite skills of bosses. I think we shouldn't mark them on normal monsters. (Would be a massive job to change) I am not so sure if we should or should not have them on NPCs. It doesn't harm, but it doesn't help either. (The skill icon next to the name shows the yellow border) I vote for not having the text unless there is a good reason for it. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 16:13, 23 June 2006 (CDT)


 * See: Style and formatting/Bestiary. - Greven 16:44, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Also, apparently this was added by Rainith on [|01:11, 1 March 2006]. - Greven 16:51, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * That didn't say only Bosses should have elite skills marked. But I agree with Gem, if we are using skill icons, the entire marking issue is superfluous.  The gold border will handle them all. - 16:53, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * So I suppose all the henchmen articles have to be fixed? &mdash; Specter 14:50, 23 June 2006 (EST)


 * Well, I think you should fix normal NPCs, like the Guild Lord and such, but leave the henchmen alone. If some of the henchmen do show up in missions so that you can capture their elites, we should mark the elite of all of them. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 16:59, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * NPC-henchies use different skill sets when being NPC vs when being Henchies right? If so, their skill listings should reflect as such.- 17:00, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Okay. How about a general rule: Mark elites when they are capturable with SoC, otherwise don't mark them. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 17:03, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * How about don't mark them period? The marking was from an era before we use skill icons. - 19:01, 23 June 2006 (CDT)