User talk:Solus

Well to start this off, the rate a user was just a bit of fun, dont take this things literally. I may sometimes vote on builds and give stupid respones, then again who hasn't. If I have offened you in anyway, get over it, I mean nothing personal. Unless you have something interesting to say on my talk page, dont bother posting. Solus  23:46, 20 March 2007 (CDT)

Other stuff
How many edits do you have to make geez... Use show preview before you make a post. For the record, American English is not the same as Australian English (ours is better). A simple mistake such as You're/Your is fine with me, You're/Ur isn't. Thankyou for the vote anyway, shows you care for me. I crave the attention lol. Solus  02:52, 8 March 2007 (CST)
 * Why do you say I use Australian English? I'm Chinese, Australian Passport, take Japanese, lived in Montreal for a while, and speak mostly American English, with some British tendencies (Skhedule vs Shedule). Please refrain from further racist comments. Though not completely Australian, Australian English is not "different". What my English is really different from is your English, because, simply put, your English is wrong on above cited examples... ie. all of them. Tell me one example where I have called your grammar wrong (this is after your attacks on others), and that it turns out that the English is not wrong and simply a different version (ie. Gray vs Grey) please. -Silk Weaker 03:46, 8 March 2007 (CST)

I refer to myself using Australian-English. You speak American Englsh, the languages are different in small ways. For the last time can you please use the show preview before you post your comments, I get so excited when you post on my page ; I can't take it! Solus  03:50, 8 March 2007 (CST)
 * I see then, my mistake. Now please cite examples of that occurence if you want to make a point. --Silk Weaker 03:51, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Most common (for me) is favour(Australian) and favor (American). Do you see my point? Solus  03:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)
 * That's same as the difference of American and British English. No, point not made. None of my accusations of bad grammar had to deal with those differences. I was refering to "Your" and "You're", and punctuation issues ("comma's", or omission of full stop.)-Silk Weaker 03:54, 8 March 2007 (CST)

O that, we'll I'm Australian, i talk slang. Solus  03:56, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Talk page
Yeh. Solus  00:55, 20 February 2007 (CST)

Ur sig was nicer with all the colours :-P -- SigmA 07:18, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Lol :) Least i learnt something in it Solus   10:28, 23 February 2007 (CST)

You need to do something with your icon, it doesn't redirect to your page, or else Gem is coming to get you! So remove it or make it redirect to your talk page ( I didn't succeed, I removed it =P) -- SigmA 13:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)

I have to save the picture then re upload it as a file i made? Solus  18:39, 23 February 2007 (CST)

I've got no idea... -- SigmA 11:50, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Spike Comparison: forked arrow followed by an interrupt


 * Brutal Weapon @ 10 communing: +12
 * Glass Arrows @12 expertise: +17
 * with Favorable Winds: +6
 * life stealing bow: +5
 * Total = +120 unconditional damage @14 marksmanship, assuming savage shot does not trigger the damage from interruption.


 * Kindling Arrows @11 wilderness: +18 (fire)
 * with Favorable Winds: +6
 * life stealing bow: +5
 * Punishing Shot @15 marksmanship: +20 dmg/1 arrow
 * Total = +116 damage, 54 of which is affected by armor.

Van Wark 01:45, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Wow my build owns. Solus  03:14, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Made enought loop holes rofl. Solus  03:31, 26 February 2007 (CST)

I am determined to get a build that you will vote favored on... >.< Flick through my Cons, you'll be suprized :) Solus   23:59, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Lyssa's Fury
Why vote unfavoured?--Eloc jcg 09:45, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Changed my mind, don't like the combo and needs a snare. I use a different combo which i prefer. Solus  00:11, 27 February 2007 (CST)
 * Ok, why change peoples votes? They voluntarely struck them out because they changed their mind.--Eloc jcg 09:45, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Build:D/A Lyssa's Fury
NOTICE: Do not change other people's votes for them. You should not strike out (or delete) or remove strikeout (or add votes) for any other users. Only the original voter can change their own votes (or, in VERY limited cases, admins can change the votes where vandalism/sockpuppetry/etc was involved). If someone strikes out their own vote, they are permitted to do that. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:46, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Build:D/Me VoS Eclipse
What would hex breaker do for the build jw? AmericanVlad 20:51, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Protect your from hexes? Solus  20:54, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Your build is basically designed to fight melee units, nobody that knows what spirt shackles will attack while under the effect of the hex. Mind wrack therefore won't work. Your wasting your primary attribute by assuming that people will fight back under spirt shackles. Your wasting 2 slots that could be used else where. Blackout is good with the Vos but killing oyur own energy under the assummtion people will fight back just won't work. Solus  20:56, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Does this look good? And would Diversion begood in the optional slot?

AmericanVlad 21:07, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Yes it does, diversion could be a good choice, but you'll need to cast hex breaker after you've used pious haste. Or you could use something like, Pious haste/Hex breaker (depending on the sitution) then wasterls worry, blackout and then Vow of Strenght for a small spike. Up to you though. Solus  21:20, 3 March 2007 (CST)

So Wastrel's worry in the optional slot? AmericanVlad 21:31, 3 March 2007 (CST)

I'd put it in variants, could be a nice little touch. Solus  00:34, 5 March 2007 (CST)

A vote, a signature, and a giant head...
...well, no giant heads in sight, so I'll just mention the vote and the signature.

on the Build:R/any Solo Totem Axe Farmer, you voted unfavored for what seem to be incorrect reasons... could you possibly have gotten something mixed up? Totem Axes drop randomly from Root Behemoths, which are not warrior bosses (not even bosses at all). They also have no way to remove stances, and the stances are only meant to run from Behemoth to Behemoth. I'm just mentioning this because I think you're thinking about a different axe maybe... and you've got about three people now trying to argue with you on the build's talk page. :D

As for the signature, I took the liberty of reading the rest of your talk page... SigmA's correct, your signature shouldn't be a shared image with another article or anything. Preferably, you'll need a image uploaded for use only in your sig. I've got some experience with uploading images and editing at whatnot... if you like, I can show you how to upload an image for your sig. Or I could maybe even make you a new image, if you want. Let me know? {Jioruji Derako} 22:35, 3 March 2007 (CST)

If you have concerns about the build, dicussion it on the build page. I don't give a dam about it, my votes my vote. Solus  23:20, 3 March 2007 (CST)


 * alright, sorry then. I was just curious as to what you meant the first time, and you weren't responding to anyone on the build page. All good now. {Jioruji Derako} 23:27, 3 March 2007 (CST)

I don't look back at every single vote i do. Solus  23:27, 3 March 2007 (CST)


 * I can understand that, I can only assume that not every vote you make ends up starting a discussion. Nothing wrong with someone mentioning it to you in such a case, right? :D {Jioruji Derako} 23:29, 3 March 2007 (CST)

I understand your point of view, i can tell your very defensive over your builds. Solus  23:30, 3 March 2007 (CST)


 * no, don't get me wrong, not trying to be defensive or anything. It's not even my build. I just happen to use it a lot, and with a good amount of success, so I was curious as to why you didn't think it worked. But that is a disccussion for the build's page, like you said. Hope I didn't come across as looking for an arguement, or anything. {Jioruji Derako} 23:35, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Alright... Solus  23:38, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 * Upload a picture via: special:Upload and redirect it to your userpage. --[[User:Sigm@|Sig mA.

]] 15:15, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Build:R/any Solo Totem Axe Farmer
My reasons regarding this hopeless build are on the thread, please do not discussion that joke on my talk page. Solus  23:16, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 * Would you mind clarifying your clarification? You've got me confused.  I have listed reasons why things are the way they are.  It can all be found on the builds usage section anyways.  What's missing?  Kelvin Greyheart 20:53, 4 March 2007 (CST)

Build talk:E/R EoE Bomb
You might want to take a look at your vote here. Its worded like a favored vote, but you put it in unfavored.--Coloneh RIP 01:26, 4 March 2007 (CST)

Playing round with stuff
Solus 

Gonna be postin up a few creative sigs, feel free to give suggestions. Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Solus   00:35, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Solus

Hi
Its one thing not knowing, but ignoring advice given to you is silly, and straying off-topic to pick fights is not acceptable. Please review No personal attacks and good day to you. &mdash; Skuld 03:10, 8 March 2007 (CST)

I'm Arrogant, haven't you heard? Solus  03:11, 8 March 2007 (CST)

This is such a nice community. Solus  03:38, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Build talk:E/Rt Mind Blast Runner
Please avoid taunting or baiting of others, as that can be viewed as attempts to coax or prod them into violating GW:NPA. Doing so is generally disruptive. While I could understand the initial comment as being a misunderstanding, the repeated occurances of accusing Silk Weaker as being either banned or bannable combine to appear as attempted taunting. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 13:05, 8 March 2007 (CST)

That's the best you can come up with? Solus  00:00, 9 March 2007 (CST)
 * Don;t screw it for yourself.. --[[User:Sigm@|Σιγ μα

]] 12:26, 9 March 2007 (CST)

[[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings"
take a look at my talk page and see if you have any ideas about my build (bottom of page) -- "Wings" 10:22, 12 March 2007 (CDT) plz

Re: NightAngel's complaint on my talk page
You can bash the mentality, you can point out illogic, but don't personally attack other wiki users. Your first, second, and fourth sentences from your comment on Build_talk:R/any_Enraged_Pet_Ranger are unnecessary. They don't help your point. Don't do it again. Considering Barek's warned you above, and I've warned you now, you're likely to be tempbanned without notice next time something like this is seen by an administrator. &mdash;Tanaric 02:58, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

How is that a personal attack, is referring to a user considered a personal attack now? He did not understand what the build is used for, which I pointed out. Solus  03:02, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

Meh Idc. Solus  03:08, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

RE:Curious
Alright, let me see if I can answer your question in a satisfactory manner.

I think there are a few things I would be able to do given the Admin tools. First of all, I spend a lot of time looking at recent edits (a LOT of time) and reverting vandalism. Then, I go to Barek's talk page, post there, and more often than not, the user gets banned, etc. So, the first thing I would say is that by removing the middle man (i.e. not having to go through Barek), I feel that I would be able to help the wiki. I remember a few nights where I was on (I am on at some weird hours), sitting and checking recent edits and being forced to revert one user's edits at least 10 times because there weren't any admins available. Obviously, anyone could do that, but I believe I have proven a willingness to go out of my way to do so. I have also been involved in more than a few instances of conflict resolution and spend a good amount of time instructing users about not violating one policy or another. To be honest, I like sitting staring at recent changes and just doing random administrative stuff.

Aside from that, I review so many pages so frequently that I believe that I could be a boon in terms of Category:Candidates for deletion by doing frequent purging. The other large part of what I think I could do given the right tools/authority would be in respect to the build name-space. As one of the users more involved in the builds section, with the changes being made to the build section (i.e. the nuking of the name-space and the rebuilding) I would like to be able to take a more active role in ensuring that if at all possible, we can have a working name-space for builds.

I wish I could give a better answer and say that there was something I could do that someone else can't. I am not sure I there is something I can say. However, I do think that someone needs to be there to ease the transition into the post NOB/PNB era, and I think that I could help. Not just with that, but with anything. I think I have the qualities that are necessary to being an Admin. On the other hand, I don't know that there is anything NEW I would bring to the table, I just think I could help out the wiki. Sorry for the long response and my utter lack of eloquence. To be honest, it is a very hard question to phrase a proper response to. If you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask, but, unfortunately, that is the best answer I can give. It is pretty much the same answer I gave Gem when asked the same thing. Hope it at least helps. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 00:47, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Also, aside from the things I have mentioned above, other than Policy debate, which is something I have become at least marginally more involved in, I am not sure in what other areas of GuildWiki I should be mentioning which may contribute to my inability to answer the question thoroughly. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 00:52, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Ok, do you think you deserve to be an Admin after reading the statics presented by Fyren? Solus  00:54, 21 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Well... I think it is hard to gauge exactly what those statistics mean. I personally still believe I could improve the wiki as an Admin and I think I would be good at it.  As to my contributions, I don't think what I am doing with them is terribly important.  Let me try to illustrate why.  I have spent the vast majority of my time editing builds.  This is indisputable.  However, the reason for that is simply that I see the builds section as the area that most desperately needs the help.  It isn't because I can't or won't contribute to other areas, simply that I haven't yet done so.  For example, right now, Harsh Language provided me with some excellent ways to find things that need improvement.  I am now gonna sit for the next couple of hours and simply review those pages and see what I can do to help.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs) 01:05, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Ok, just like to know. Solus  01:09, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
 * No problem. Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs) 01:11, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

That was our interview with Defiant Elements, thankyou for watching SolusVision. Solus  01:13, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Just thought I would share this little description of what Admins do on Administrate users, not content. They mediate and arbitrate user disputes, they patrol for and block vandals, and they protect and delete articles to maintain our high quality of content. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 04:01, 21 March 2007 (CDT)


 * NO!!! Please do not make this user an admin, he is extremely inflammatory. Jagre 05:14, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Build vetting procedure
*Do NOT discuss other people's votes in the voting section. It makes the votes cluttered and unreadable. Instead, take your issues to the discussion section below or to the respective user's talk page.

Refer to something atleast lol. Solus  06:50, 21 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Build talk: E/Me Hurricane - Jagre 06:59, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

How is a humorist comment considered to breakt the laws of vetting? How was I discussing your vote? 07:01, 21 March 2007 (CDT)


 * It's cool mayn, don't worry about it, K? later brah, sorry bout that, alright?  Jagre 07:25, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Your/You're Thing
I see in your Userboxes you belive in thing called "grammar", but you use "your" all the time instead of "you're". Such as in Build:Me/W Illusionary Cleaver build, and few other. Try to keep good grammar or remove this userbox... - (Abedeus) 03:55, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Pwned! --[[User:Sigm@|Sig mA

]] 03:55, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

You're/Ur, Read the userbox plz. Solus  03:56, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Pwned back! -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 03:57, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * *Fell of chair laughing* --[[User:Sigm@|<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA

]] 03:58, 22 March 2007 (CDT) To what? Solus  03:59, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * To what?? (Sorry, gotta go to school, be back in 7 hours) --[[User:Sigm@|<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA

]] 04:01, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * The point is, if you belive in grammar, USE IT. If you don't see diffrence between Your and You're, then you are not using it. - [[Image:Zealous_Vow.jpg|19px]] (Abedeus) 08:08, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Don't be bothered of grammar stuff, can't believe you're making all this trouble about the userbox and his real grammar. InfestedHydralisk  12:10, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Just for kicks, I'd also like to point out that he likes two mix up to and too, demonstrated [here]. Grammer is rolling in its grave.[[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 12:39, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Personally I think the only acceptable version of the word should be "yore". ;) --Rainith 18:01, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

What the hell? Read the Userbox for god sakes. I have problems with You're/Ur not You're/Your. God I'm sick of idiots taking things like that completely out of content. Solus  00:51, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Right now, you are insulting me. I thought admins can't call others' names? By talking "Im sick of idiots", you are breaking one or more laws. And I don't give a crap about name of userbox, as long as you say you belive in grammar and you prove, that it's not true. - (Abedeus) 11:23, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

I don't think he's an admin... InfestedHydralisk  11:41, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * For reference: admin lists can be viewed at either Special:Listusers/sysop or GW:ADMIN. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:49, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Oh. My bad, I must have make a mistake, thought about someone else. It's still violating of rules. No personal attacks plx. - (Abedeus) 12:26, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Solus = Admin, yeh rite. :P --[[User:Sigm@|<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA

]] 12:29, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Why does everyone have to argue about these things, It's a friggin user box. People have had a go at me on about 5 different occasions about that userbox. Solus  21:18, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Because that user box is hypocrtical. If so many people are after you, it's probably not the people that have a problem, but you. [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 00:14, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

How so, I don't use Ur, simple as that. Solus  00:18, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Your user box states you believe in grammer. Your actions do not reflect that. Did I really need to spell that out? It would be more accurate if it just said "This user does not use the word 'ur.'" [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 00:46, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

What actions? Don't view my userpage if a simple userbox gets to you. Solus  01:22, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Na, nothing gets to me. I just like to point out hypocrites. "Your actions" refer in your edits. Was that that hard to figure out too? For example, you did not use punctuation correctly in your reply at 00:18. [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 01:30, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

It obvisouly seems to get to you, as you keep arguing. Mate, your only repeating yourself. You are proving nothing, and not helping yourself in anyway. It's a userbox, deal with it. Solus  01:42, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Now now, don't put words in my mouth. (You seem to like to do that too, by editing other's comments, but that's another can of worms.) I'm just trying to make you look less stupid when you use such sloppy English but still have a banner that says you believe in grammer. Really, it's you who look bad, not me. [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 01:46, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Really, your debating about Grammar which you spell Grammer?. Solus  01:48, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Woops. My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. However, my flaw does not make yours any less significant. [[Image:Canada_39x40.png|19px]] Thedarkmarine 01:50, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

My point proven, you have only underminded yourself, Thankyou. Solus  01:51, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
 * >.< Stop spamming recent changes plx. Fighting about grammar is pointless, Solus' already pointed out that he doesn't care. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 01:53, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Build:R/Mo Striking Bond
What do you mean by half an Elite wasted?--Eloc 15:19, 22 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Half = Only pet can deal nice damage with this. You can't. - [[Image:Zealous_Vow.jpg|19px]] (Abedeus) 16:04, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Yep. Solus  00:51, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * How is that wasting half an Elite though? The pet still gets his bonus attacks regardless if I can't deal out the dmg.--Eloc 21:11, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

What is the point of just having the pet attack? You and your pet benefit from the skill, why just have the pet attack. Solus  21:15, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Because there are no better Elites than that. Heal as one only heals every 10 seconds. Rampage as one is short and costs to much energy, etc, etc.--Eloc 22:39, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Enraged Lunge. Solus  23:50, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I don't have enough skills recharging at a time to match Strike as One. Therefore, Strike as One is stronger overall.--Eloc 01:15, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Hm. Call of Haste, Call of Protection, Predatory Bond, and there, at 13 beast mastery, you deal max amount of damage with Lunge. You need only 3 other skills to make +80. - (Abedeus) 03:18, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
 * But I am not using Predatory Bond all the time, only when I need healing, and I don't even have Call of Protection in the skill bar...--Eloc 03:20, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Then, your build just sucks. Solus  04:06, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Solus,
(continued on from build talk...

Divert Hexes > This. Solus  04:11, 23 March 2007 (CDT)


 * LOL, Solus so there is ONE way to beat this. Hey, can you find any build in ALL of GW that cannot be countered, except for my last one?  LOL first it's too general, now it's too focused? peace. - 69.85.158.163 05:34, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Dude, your build is almost the same as many others. Your build is NOTHING special, there are plenty of ways to counter your build. What if those hexed just dont attack? I'll list for you ways to counter your build.


 * is it not more effective to the ones that were pointed out, like Build:N/Me Warrior Bane and Build:N/Me Price of Death? Does it not have more energy management and do more damage than either of those?


 * Pious Restoration
 * Avatar of Dwayna
 * Purge Signet
 * Deny Hexes
 * Divert Hexes
 * Convert Hexes
 * Withdraw Hexes
 * Contemplation of Purity

All fairly common multi-hex removals. Your build sucks, it's unfavored ; get over it. Solus  05:07, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

-"Your build sucks, it's unfavored ; get over it" - i don't care that it is unfavored, man.

The point is that any focused build can be countered by a specific anti.

Here's a Challenge for you: come up with a single build that successfully counters the Build:N/W Jaguar Sword. I'll make it POSSIBLE - with the exception of vampiric touch (if you want).

After you do that, estimate the chances of running into that build in RA.

Either they're not focused enough or (the natural downside of focus) run into counters too much. - 69.85.158.163 05:30, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

that's the end of discussion. note. -Brian.

Backfire > Jaguar Sword. GG. Solus  06:31, 23 March 2007 (CDT)


 * just get a divert hexes monk on your group = anticountered. :D 69.19.229.131 07:22, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

As with both your builds. Solus  07:44, 23 March 2007 (CDT)


 * 1) both my builds what?
 * 2) guess what i just got a glad point - do you know what i used - the new J. DREAM build - the one of the discussion page. guess what else?  it was my first try! (><)    peace. -69.19.167.105 08:34, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

oh btw - was doin' hella well in TA, too - ended up getting disconnected. late.

You said Divert Hexes counters backfire, as both your builds. I honestly don't care if you earned a glad point with your so-called "builds", they suck. I don't see why you keep trying to defend them and come up with stupid reasons. Solus  09:05, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

I'll say something about Jaguar Sword - If you WON'T find counter for this, you suck. Dude, that build is energy-suicide with LOW damage. No, no, no. And yeah, your builds kind of suck. - (Abedeus) 14:50, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Oh oh oh! I know! Can I say? InfestedHydralisk  14:53, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, tell us, we need to defend from this óber build!!!11 - [[Image:Zealous_Vow.jpg|19px]] (Abedeus) 16:58, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Wastrel's Leech or Soothing Images, Energy Surge, Energy Burn with Power Leak and "Can't Touch This". InfestedHydralisk  17:44, 23 March 2007 (CDT)

Or simiply mending, can definely out-heal the build. Solus  19:03, 23 March 2007 (CDT)