User talk:Dr ishmael/Archive 5

first non-spam
Ever found a way to make the "RSS" and "Atom" feed options useful? I haven't. I also ask you since frankly I don't understand what they do. :p (T/C) 22:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I've never seen the point of RSS. Maybe I just don't comprehend it completely, but receiving alerts whenever something changes on a website just seems kinda pointless.  Maybe the concept has matured since I last paid much attention to it (which was when it was brand-new).  Anyway, to answer your question, no, I don't know if/how the RSS/Atom feeds can be made useful.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, so it's basically a redundant recent changes. -_- I suppose if we ever implementent any real-time-based things (auction, contest, etc.) it could be useful. It's strange since it has been there since this wiki began (almost) yet no one I know uses it for anything. So I wonder why it was implemented. Maybe it's just part of MediaWiki. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe you're correct, I found a short explanation here. I suppose it could be useful to a person who isn't that much of an RC-vulture, but still wants to know what's going on; or for someone who wants to keep tabs on new pages only - letting the RSS reader sound alerts when new pages are created would be more convenient for them than constantly refreshing Special:NewPages.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's nice for pages like Xkcd, which update irregularly (sp?). --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  09:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * xkcd is regular, Monday-Wednesday-Friday - it says so on the page, and I haven't noticed him to miss in the month or so since I've been reading. For webcomics in general, I keep all the ones I follow in a bookmarks folder, and I use Firefox's "Open all in tabs" function to check them every day since many of them keep a news blog that sometimes updates on non-comic days.  If I felt like bothering with it, RSS might make that easier (for the ones that offer RSS feeds, anyway), but meh.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 13:31, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * xkcd is regular. The order of the stick, however, is not, so RSS is great for that.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 14:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ugh, I fail :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  14:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Some wikis (like guestbook.wikia.com) update quite sporadically, so if you want to keep an eye on those, a RSS feed would be handy. --◄mendel► 09:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

JavaScript suggestion
If you see any merit in Suggestions/Skin JavaScript, could you take care of that one, please? --◄mendel► 09:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't see any merit in it - or at least, not enough merit for me to work on it. Anons who want to use another skin need to register an account, that's the entire point.  And editors debugging skin issues can just set it in their preferences.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

new parser changeover
I would like to upgrade GuildWiki to use the new parser soonish (see the bottom of this suggestion for my reason). Here's the page with possible problems. All we have to do is basically to request it of Wikia, and then fix any templates that may be broken &mdash; I don't expect anything serious, though. However, it would be useful if we both were available to do any fixing that may be needed. When would be a good time for the changeover? --◄mendel► 09:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Meh, anytime. I'll be here.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I set up Forum:New parser for bug reports etc. and included a suggested site notice to advertise the change. Now I'm going to ask Kirkburn to actually do it. --◄mendel► 23:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's live - see User:Warwick/Archive size. :-) --◄mendel► 23:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Unsigned template
Umm.... I don't get the difference between what I did and what you did? --JonTheMon 14:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Using subst: on a template, as in ..., replaces or substitutes the template with the actual wiki-code that it generates. If you edit the page, you'll see the difference.  Unsigned is meant to be used in this way, since all it does is insert the username/ip into a pre-defined text string - there's no reason to leave it as a template call.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Aaaaaaah. I have been enlightened. --JonTheMon 14:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't you have a custom edit-button which substs in the Unsigned template? That would be nice addition to common edit buttons. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, but I can make one quick. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = { "imageFile": "http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/gw/images/6/6d/Button_unsigned.png", "speedTip": "Unsigned", "tagOpen": "", "tagClose": "", "sampleText": "username"}
 * Voilá. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * So you gonna add it or not? --Gimmethegepgun 23:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * DIY (To your personal css .js I guess). --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  12:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's no reason to add this to common.js, it would just confuse people. Add it to your own Special:Mypage/monobook.js/Special:Mypage/monaco.js.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Help
Hey, when I log into wiki, the top and side bars don't load (the search panel, my user options, edit, talk page, ect.). It took me about 10 minutes to find a way to get to a talk page to ask for help and I thank you so much for putting a link in one of your userboxes. I am adding this page to my favorites so I can get back to it later... but I could really use either yours or someone elses help  00:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We've got wikia working on the problem; you can read the notice here. --Shadowcrest 01:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks :) [[Image:Shogankillername.jpg|x19px]] 01:07, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * So that makes for you, me, and Entropy... Great... RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 02:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got my bars, but my browser crashes if I leave it open to any page on the wiki for more than a couple minutes. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This issue is getting so bad, by the way, that I may have to change my homepage from our Main Page after a year and a half because I can't navigate off it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Half Borrowed, Half Stolen
Hello, I'm a fairly new member (at least when it comes to contributing), but I'm building up a userpage at the moment. I really like a lot of your layout and such, and wonder if it's ok if I might steal a couple of tricks off your character pages? (such as the Vanquisher templates and things like that)? With credit of course! Mr J 15:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course you can use stuff from my pages. If you have any trouble making it work for you, let me know and I'll try to help.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for letting me borrow freely ;) Most things are either obvious, or easy enough to figure out, I've found, but there's one thing that's bugging me: How do I get those neat little edit-links (those next to each section header)? I'm transcluding (I hope that's the right term) several smaller pages onto each character page, to keep it easier to update each bit at a time, but I'd really like a link to edit that "subpage" from the "main" character page. [edit] Mr J 03:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC) doh, I hear signing is good >.<


 * The edit links appear on the headings, so the solution is to move your headings from the character page to the subpage (and use === to mark them, if you use 4 or 5 =, there is no underline, so you can use them instead of bold text:

header with 5 = signs

 * If you want to explore templates further, Forum:Coding is a good place to start. --◄mendel► 08:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, Mendel! That does clear up some thing, but I still can't get it to work within my character pages... I'm guessing there's something about it being inside the template (Dr Ishmael's character template) that stops it from showing up, because it shows up just fine at my still-basic-text main userpage... Mr J 22:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You were exactly right, the magic word was on that page, and it disabled these links; the reason was that the using these links for the template-generated headers would have led people to edit the CharacterTemplate itself. I've copied the template and disabled the edit links for these headers by using tags; since the parser update, these don't generate the links. Dr Ishmael, you may want to apply these changes to your template and (re)move my copy at User:Mr J/CharacterTemplate. User:Mr_J/Mariano_Pomposo now has edit links where you need them. --◄mendel► 23:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I've made the changes. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 00:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And I've deleted the now superfluous copy. No more delete tag for me! :) --◄mendel► 00:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you both incredibly much for this help, even such lengths as creating a template and all (even if it was mostly duplicating), it's really a lot more than I expected! Now the page is working just like I want it :D I should try to read through (and maybe understand) that Coding-forum... Mr J 02:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah, you shouldn't, only the stuff that speaks to you. But look up some of the useful links, and tell us how Help:Contents works for you. :-) --◄mendel► 02:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

making a searchbox
On GWW, the following code works to create a searchbox within a page (stoleb from Shadowphoenix):

default=User:Shadowphoenix/ buttonlabel=Find A Secret width=50 load=search

Know anything which is equivalent for GuildWiki? I'm trying to salvage all the useful sidebar functons and put them on an "alternate main page" so I can try to still edit effectively while problems are ongoing. (T/C) 16:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Also see the community portal for a way to add GuildWiki search to your browser toolbar. --◄mendel► 21:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh cool, thanks. I would add the GWiki search, but I don't like having extra stuff up there. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless you have turned the browser search box off, it's not anything extra: just another search engine you can choose via the drop-down. I need to switch that back to google when I want to use that, so it's not completely without drawbacks, however. My favorite way to open the Wiki is to type a random word into that search box and see what that gets me. --◄mendel► 22:06, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well see, I don't have any searchbar enabled, because it's an eyesore. :] [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * On my IE7, the search box is on the address bar (with the back and forward buttons) and I've no idea how to turn that off (whole, or just the search box), although I've just looked (and I think this is the second time I've tried). It's experiences like these that originally turned me off Microsoft products. --◄mendel► 23:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * FF2 and 3 both have Forward-Back-Refresh-Cancel-Home-Adress bar-Search bar, as the adress bar. It doesn't look bad, imo, because it doesn't stand out more than the adress bar (and it's small). --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  12:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, my IE7 adress bar looks similar. The difference is, I can easily figure out how to turn it off or adapt it in FireFox. :-P --◄mendel► 23:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

bot task
Would you mind changing all instances of "Skills Used" to "Skills used" and "Items Dropped" to "Items dropped". (T/C) 01:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * =( I like doing it manually... but I guess it would be faster this way. Cress Arvein [[Image:Cress sig.JPG]] 04:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I could do that. Determining which pages need to be edited would be the difficult part, although I could just load the entire Bestiary.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Mesmer Elite Elegant armor/Male
Either this is broken or we really are missing a lot of screenshots. (T/C) 20:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sadly, that's not broken - that's all that gallery ever had. The template sure makes it obvious which ones need help, doesn't it?  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

ISHY
BOT ACCOUNT! NO BREAKING RC! BAD ISHY! &mdash; Warw/Wick 16:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought you were "outta here"? o.O &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Read my talkpage. My internet's being kayish atm. :> &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 16:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh. I have a userbox to live up to. :D  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 17:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

No need
The reason I put that there was so no one (as in admin, since it's fully protected) would have to deal with adding anything to it for a long time, and allows anyone to archive whenever, instead of having to ask an admin --Gimmethegepgun 18:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, I didn't realize it was protected. But does it really need to be?  It doesn't seem like it would be a big vandalism target.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Signatures?
Yeah, thanks buddy. If you looked at my history, I've done this a few times before; it's just my thing. There is no rule against signing your edit excuse thingamajig :P I like the way it looks. You take care now.
 * He was only trying to help. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 07:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Category Contains rare crafting material
I see you and JonTheMon have undone the pages from the "Contains Amber" and "Contains Charcoal" categories that I had added to the "Contains rare crafting material" category. I had planned to add all the pages from the "Contains rare crafting material" category, "Contains..." subcategories to the "Contains rare crafting material" category. What I was trying to do was to provide a single page that lists all the drops that contain rare crafting material. Thus in the situation where you have an inventory full of drops and you are trying to decide whether to use an expert/superior salvage kit or a normal salvage kit on them you can see at a glance which items might contain rare crafting materials. As far as I am aware there is currently no page on GuildWiki that allows you to do this. If you do know of such a page please let me know. Alternatively if you can suggest a name for a new category to cover this please let me know. DemoniaFatalis 12:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as categorization goes, it's not standard practice to put an article in both a category and a subcategory of that category, so I'm still going to oppose that idea. However, you can create a DPL page in your userspace for this.  Just copy the following code:

category=*Contains rare crafting material columns=2
 * Modify the columns value to fit your screen, and voila! You've got a list of all articles that are in the subcategories of Category:Contains rare crafting material.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that does the job :) DemoniaFatalis 19:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

protected...
Being created exactly once hardly makes something a spam target, and if that's a "vulgar word" I guess you've got much higher standards than I do. o_O (T/C) 15:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh. It's not like we'll ever need that title for a legitimate article anyway.  And we have evidence that this 18px vandal has recreated the same pages in the past, so I figured we could circumvent that.  We have Template:Updates archive protected "to prevent mass vandalism" even though I can't find any evidence of vandalism to that archive box, even before it was templated, so I see nothing wrong with protecting this one even though it's only been created once.
 * And what else was I gonna say? "spam article; someone said a worty dird!" >.>?  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha. Okay. Should we protect the full list, you think? All the ones they have created before? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Time to test the cascading protection, then? :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  15:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, brilliant was Viper. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Cascading protection only works for included pages, not links. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I figured it out eventually. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:51, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oorsome. It works now :) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  15:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The prot was already working, if you try to create the page the notice is there. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't notice that, but I figured it out now. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Ranger Krytan Armour Male ...
Hi there

Sorry to be noob ;) i'm new to adding to wiki's and i've just finished updating all the Ranger Krytan Armour/Male images ... I have added images that now use the default "gray" dye.

There is still however a warning image on the page indicating that we need actual gray images. - i just cant seems to figure out how to remove this message. do you know ?

thanks - Primetheus
 * The message was caused by the template's parameter "undyed." Setting it to "no" removed the message. I r smarts @ templatz :D [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Vanquishing Title Boxes
I might be annoying you by now, but I edited my Vanquishing title boxes at User:Shogankiller/Carrier Of Darkness/titles and I left them open when I switched back to my main page, and now they are stuck open, and does not give me the option to close them (hide/show) again. I looked at your scripting and I can't see the part where it gives the option to show/hide, and I re-copied and pasted it, but it still doesnt work. 23:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * See the Wikia staff noticeboard. Showhide is broken right now. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Only for IE7 - they're working just fine in Firefox. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 00:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * adding that parge to my favorites so I don't keep blocking up your talk page lol [[Image:Shogankillername.jpg|x19px]] 01:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Promotion Party
Cheers, and thanks to everybody who congratulated me! --◄mendel► 06:08, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, yummy! Although I don't know how that'll work as a chaser for the Sam Adams Winter Lager I just had...  ah well. /drinks
 * We should promote admins more often, if it means they're gonna throw parties like this. :D &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 06:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

armours
Perhaps we should modify the image upload text (somewhere in the MediaWiki:Allmessages) to say something like "if you are going to upload an image for an armor gallery, please consult the Armor Gallery Image Guidelines" (or whatever the exact page is called). What do you think - redundant maybe? Or no one reads that text anyway? :p (T/C) 22:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No one reads it would be my guess, because there's just too much of it (or they hide it with CSS, like me >.> but at least I know what I'm doing around here... I think). I looked at it a while back and thought about trying to condense it a bit, but then I forgot about it.  I'll take another look at it and see what I can do.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 22:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)