Talk:Gwen's Garden

Quests
For me, the pet tamer and Jingle Bear always spawned during 3Wise, and neither spawned during Charrbroil. And I don't understand how Wintercheer could affect spawns in Ice Cliff Chasms, as none of its objectives are out there - the pet tamer at least should be there. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 20:51, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Short story: correct/revert my text based on your testing/instinct; I trust that more than I trust my sources.


 * Long story: I'm not saying I understand the mechanics of the spawning; I'm only trying to document based on this data:
 * Two different people told me that they had done the 2008 quests (and got to see Jingle Bear regularly before this Wintersday),
 * Both had spoken to Lt. Thack before venturing out; neither had yet spoken to the 3 NPCs inside eotn.
 * Both said they didn't see either pet this year until completing the 2009 quests.
 * Both players are reliable testers; they have made verifiable/testable reports in the past (and understand falsifiable hypotheses and other arcana that should make them highly reliable).


 * It's possible that both were mistaken about the bear showing up for them (e.g. they got their toons confused). It's also possible that ANet fixed a spawning bug in one of the half-dozen or so updates since Wintersday began. I can't test myself, since I wasn't around for 2008. I'm reluctant to try to force my guild into assisting my efforts to track down the various spawn requirements. Consequently, I trust your instincts more than my limited data.  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 21:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)