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HTML errors
The page Template:Valid_XHTML_1.0 was valid when I wrote it. It no longer is.

Even on Monobook I get 27 errors, many of those on lines that have wikia-ads.wikia.com on them. Could you pass a hint to your web designers that URLencoding URLs is a good thing?

Monaco is, of course, beyond the pale with more than 100 errors. --◄mendel► 17:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Holy shit, my userpage got 104 errors from the ad code. That's insane.  [edit] Oh, guess I should check it with the correct skin - only 27 on Monobook, but still...  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 17:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I have filed a ticket on this issue. --KyleH (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The issue has been raised on Wikia Central's watercooler as well, so I'm surprised there hasn't been a ticket on it yet. But then again I was disappointed when sannse posted that the techies didn't think that was a problem (it might be the cause of the Opera glitches, we don't know). So it's good to know the issue won't get lost, thank you. Now if I could reproduce the glitch that sometimes causes pages to come up raw (I always notice because it starts madly opening empty tabs on FF2 - I must configure it to treat text/x-wiki differently...)... --◄mendel► 23:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah ... I may have just overlooked the original ticket, but I created a new one anyway. Sannse's response, however, is probably accurate.  I have documented the bug so it will be added to the queue to be fixed, but other fixes and enhancements will probably remain higher priority than this, so it's really hard to tell when (or even if) the engineering team will have the resources to devote to fixing the HTML. --KyleH (talk) 23:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey ... just a quick update: the members of the tech team are resolving many of these HTML errors at the same time they are making other fixes and enhancements, so you should see the number of errors decline slowly. We're down to 42 errors now from a high of over 100.  There's still a long way to go, but it's progress. --KyleH (talk) 22:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The Database dump is missing information
The database dump at http://wikistats.wikia.com/dbdumps/gwguild/pages_current.xml.gz is incomplete. Several articles lack article text that is in the online database. This hurts us because I have been running scripts to find pages that are eligible for some maintenance tasks, and of course the dump can't serve its intended function.

Examples: The database dump is limited to    Digger 131904 1352891 2008-08-04T23:35:18Z M.mendel 761251 minor reword for consistency across monsters &lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From GuildWiki, a Wikia wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt; The comment from my latest update is there, but the page text is completely absent.
 * Digger


 * http://guildwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Image:Assassin_Deldrimor_Armor_F_dyed_back.jpg&action=raw&ctype=text/css

The database dump for Image:Assassin_Deldrimor_Armor_F_dyed_back.jpg does not have these two lines. As you can see, the text tag, where these two lines should be, just has the wikia credits that wiki appends to all text tags. For many images, the article text is there. Image:Assassin Deldrimor Armor F dyed back.jpg 158925 1353065 2008-08-05T03:06:41Z Dr ishmael 444266 &lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From GuildWiki, a Wikia wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Image:ArdenothOakenshield.jpg 10274 1175650</id> 2008-02-14T00:47:34Z Isk8 410451</id> <text xml:space="preserve">Pic of Ardenoth Oakenshield &lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From GuildWiki, a Wikia wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt; See also GuildWiki_talk:Image_attribution_project/list. ''My first guess? The slave database server that the dump is made from is not synched properly.'' --◄mendel► 05:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For comparison, an article that has its correct text in the database is Image:ArdenothOakenshield.jpg.


 * Hi, I've asked JSharp to look into this. -- sannse (talk) 19:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The latest current_pages.xml.gz of 21 August is still unusable because of the same problem. I believe it omits the text (just the text, revision info & comments are there) of every page that's been edited after July 23rd or thereabouts. This is really disappointing, as there are a few projects that could really use the updated page lists that I create by running simple programs on the dump - and for article groups that have 5000+ pages, like our bestiary, doing it online is just not feasible. --◄mendel► 00:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Our engineers are still working on this. I'll let you know when I learn anything new. --KyleH (talk) 20:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * August 26/27 dumps were ok, let's hope it stays fixed. --◄mendel► 06:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Confirmed newer dumps are working correctly -- JSharp (talk) 00:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that's great! --◄mendel► 03:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Unable to edit pages
I'm not sure what was changed, but the page editing function seems to no longer work. Obviously, this is a very bad thing for a wiki. Clicking either "Save page" or "Show preview" shows a completely blank page as the preview, no matter what my edit was. It did this yesterday, too, and I didn't try to make any edits in the few days preceding yesterday. I've tried rebooting the computer, as well as clearing my cache and restarting my browser. Neither seemed to have any effect. I normally use Opera 9.51. I had to switch to a different browser to make this edit, which is quite a nuisance.

On another note, after logging in, it would be nice if pop-up box to log in closed on its own. Instead, it just sits there covering part of the screen after I log in. I have to close the box on my own and then reload the page for it to show me as logged in. Quizzical 14:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Seems like Monaco just doesn't work with Opera?
 * In FF 2, I have none of those problems. The log-in box closes, Show Preview and Save changes works... That's really weird tbh. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  15:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It worked just fine with Opera until earlier this week. And yes, I'm having to use Firefox to make edits, which is a pain.  Quizzical 17:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Update on login problems
Hi all, just an update on last week's login problems. It seems that the issue was with the cache, the way the server sends stored page to your browser to save on database effort. The problem was, it was sending pages that showed you as logged out - even though you were actually logged in. That's why there were some strange effects with edits showing as logged in when your browser didn't agree.

It took a while to work out why this was happening, but we think that should be cleared up now. I'm still seeing a problem that I have to log in when I come back to Wikia... but while I'm on the site it's stable.

There is still a problem with Opera, which is likely to be related but is harder to pin down. Sorry about this all you Opera users.

I'll let you know if I hear any more news from the technical team on this -- sannse (talk) 08:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * This is good news, thank you. --◄mendel► 09:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm making this edit from Opera 9.52, so something was fixed. Opera still doesn't work on Wikia Central, though.  Quizzical 01:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah; we reverted the changes which caused the Opera problems. We are currently testing a new fix on WoWWiki and will probably be implementing it some time in the near future. --KyleH (talk) 19:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Question Regarding Widgets
Moved from GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal.

Not sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I can't figure out any better place :P. Getting good use out of the widget tools that have been put in place, but there is a major annoyance regarding the watchlist widget. It doesn't show new watchlist pages as bolded like in your regular watchlist. This makes the tool pretty much useless. Is there any way that we would have for it to bold new entries in the widget sidebar? --   I~sk8   (T/C) 23:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's one of the widgets that had potential, but the limitations makes it useless. I would consider moving this to teh Staff Noticeboard for the Wikia techs to deal with. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion Pan. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Isk8   (T/C) 02:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll submit this as an enhancement request. Thanks for the suggestion. --KyleH (talk) 22:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks alot for addressing this Kyle. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Isk8   (T/C) 21:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Polls?
I'm using Firefox 2, and I can vote on a Poll as much as I like. The downside? My vote doesn't count. --- -- (s)talkpage  10:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's okay Viper, you're still valuable. --Macros 11:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I feel so much better now.. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  11:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, that issue. Takes no votes on either ff2 or ie7 for me. --◄mendel► 14:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've filed a ticket on this issue. I'll let you know when I hear anything. --KyleH (talk) 22:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Poorly formatted ad
An anonymous user edited a page because, "Dropping down content because ad is showing up on top :("  I checked on this, and found a box-style add that is indeed being displayed as if it were a banner ad, and thus is overflowing its assigned box and covering up article content.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael  01:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That issue should be fixed now. Let me know if you see it again. --KyleH (talk) 19:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thumbnail error
On the Loading screens article, i'm getting an error showing the thumbnail of the realm of torment image. Here's a link to what I'm seeing.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 22:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My guess is that it's a standard just-uploaded image issue, and it'll go away before they respond.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  22:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And I'm seeing it fine.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  22:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right, it finally went away.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This happens A LOT to freshly-uploaded images when I do armor galleries. Goes away after a while, usually.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 22:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All you have to do is purge the page (add  to the end of the standard URL), and it should be able to create the thumbnail on the second try.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * How often does this seem to be happening? And does it usually fix itself without a purge, or does it always require a purge? --KyleH (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure, mine was fixed about 5 minutes AFTER i purged, which seems to be too long for the purge to have taken effect.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 20:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Text being cut off
On any page (like a talk page) that ends in text the bottom line is half cut-off by the ad-space. If you want me to upload a picture of the problem, ask and you shall receive.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 16:54, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean like the picture up 2 sections, where one cut off content at the top? Anyway, ABP :) --Gimmethegepgun 19:38, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Shush, don't discuss methods of making Wikia make less money on their noticeboard ;) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  20:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No i mean like half a line at the bottom, not the whole freaking page at the top.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 20:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing this myself. Can you screenshot it?  --KyleH (talk) 19:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, not anymore, it's gone. I think it was just a connection hiccup, cuz the advertisements also weren't showing then.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 20:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Search Box
The new search box is a stepback because the removal of the "Search GuildWiki" text is not guaranteed. It can occur that the text remains in the field while clicking on it forcing you to first mark the whole text and then deleting it before you can enter the search text. This error happens in mozilla-based browsers (the others not tested) and can possibly be fixed by using the "onmousedown" instead of the "onmouseup" event handler within the js-file. Even though the error appears very rarely a removal of the text would be a better option than the status quo, the fixing would be the best. 77.182.224.91 13:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Image revision deletion
For obvious reasons, I tried to delete a certain vandalism revision on Image:Rank 15.jpg, but it gave me this message when I tried: There is no archived version of Rank 15.jpg with the specified attributes. --Gimmethegepgun 17:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Only thing I can think of to fix it is to delete the file altogether after saving it to the hard drive, then re-upload it.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 18:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If this happens again, can you leave the bad revision in place so our engineers can reproduce the problem and fix it? --KyleH (talk) 20:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, sorry. I was thinking of a quick fix rather than long-term solutions. My bad.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 01:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. If it's an oh-my-god-my-eyes-are-bleeding type of image, go ahead and nuke it.  What I was meaning to say is that even though it's not a huge issue, it's pretty difficult for us to identify and fix the underlying issue that caused it without being able to reproduce it ourselves. --KyleH (talk) 19:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It was just a heavily pixellated phallus placed over the Dragon, so nothing serious really. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  14:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

It's back
The lag and the bug where you appear not-logged-in until you refresh a page. --Macros 22:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The lag? It's going faster than ever for me.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 01:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ditto, I'm not currently experiencing any slow responses from Wikia, but we know how quickly that can change. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The changes that we made to speed up the site caused Opera to break, so we had to revert them. Overall, performance should still be fine, but you may (infrequently) notice some glitches.  We're currently testing a new solution and will hopefully see it rolled out some time soon. --KyleH (talk) 20:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The not-logged-in glitch is still happening, but only the first time visiting the main page, which isn't really a problem.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  03:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hrm
I clicked on the link to Image:Rank_15.jpg above and got this: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare codepointtoutf8 in /usr/wikia/source/releases_200809.1/includes/normal/UtfNormalUtil.php on line 38 Not exactly ideal. Can't seem to reproduce it, though :(  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 02:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I got that trying to go to recent changes a couple times. Probably just a short server glitch.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  02:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

menu bug
the side menu has a strange bug on the submenus: for both news and support we have a link that says "edit this menu". HTML div tags appear around this and I'm pretty sure they don't belong there. I'm sure when this started however. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 19:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * checking other browsers: that menu option doesn't show up at all in firefox or opera. I see it only in IE. 129.21.28.24 19:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I tested with IE7, it is not there for me as anon. Maybe because you are a sysop? --◄mendel► 19:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The "edit this menu" item has always been around since the beginning of Monaco skin, however, recently it starts to treat html tags as pure text, causing my hack to float special stuff to the right to fail as described above. A long time ago I had suggested that those special menu items ("more..." and "edit this menu") to be given special classes so wiki admins can CSS-style them differently, unfortunately that does not seem to have been implemented yet )-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 22:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)