Talk:Life Barrier

did someone actually manage to cast Life Barrier at 18 Protection Prayers, or was that BS? o_O" -PanSola 03:36, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that's possible. I notice however that the usage notes appear to be implying that it is Life Bond, as it recommends pairing it with Essence Bond and Balthazar's Aura - that's not particularly helpful however in the case of Life Barrier - at least no more so than with any enchanment - I assume they are referring to the fact that Life Bond's transferred damage, even if it is 0, triggers Balthazar's Aura, so you can generate a lot of energy while protecting folks.  I'll just remove that bit I think, as it is irrelevent here.  --Epinephrine 16:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Life Bond redirected damaged didn't trigger Balthazar's Aura the last time I tried (which would be a short while ago). --theeth 18:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Odd - I know it doesn't trigger Mantras (of elements), and doesn't trigger Essence Bond, as the damage loses its type, but it has always worked for me, even giving energy of "-0" hits, as has Symbiotic Bond. Not at home, can't verify, but easily tested in any case.  If it has changed it would need to be in the past week or two, as I ran a bonder sometime earlier this month I believe, though it is hard to keep track of when I play what.  Given that the Life Bond/Bal's Spirit combo is a rather fundemental part of bonder builds I imagine we would have heard the hue and cry at the skills change; the activation of Balthazar's Spirit by Life Bondis mentioned on the Balthazar's Spirit page as well, and we should determine by testing whether it is still true. --Epinephrine 10:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that. Both Essence Bond and Balthazar's Spirit trigger, even if Life Bond only causes 0 damage to the caster. I ran bonders quite a few times during the last month. ;) --Nilles 04:35, 18 April 2006 (CDT)
 * With regard to Talk:Mo/Me PvE Life Barrier Monk, just noting that the above comment is yet another independent confirmation of what I believe to be true. F G 22:32, 6 May 2006 (CDT)

Damage reduction w/Life Bond
I'm confused... what's the difference in damage reduction if this is casted after Life Bond? And how about before? --Xiu Kuro 09:01, 7 September 2006 (CDT)
 * No difference for the Bondee, However for the bonder you want the Life Bond to take effect after the Life Barrier so you take less damage. --JP 09:07, 7 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Sorry was in a bit of a rush there! If life bond takes effect 1st the Bonder takes 50%-x damage. If Barrier takes effect 1st (and it does if it's cast 1st) the bonder takes 25%-x damage.  -- JP 12:26, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

I'm 99% certain that the order of enchantments doesn't have any effect on the damage recieved by the caster. It is important to keep Life Barrier as the first enchantment so it gets broken last, but otherwise it doesn't change anything. The two spells take effect at different times: Barrier takes effect while the damage is being calculated, before it is actually dealt. Bond takes effect after the damage has been calculated, and redirects 1/2 of that damage to the caster. First the damage hits Life bond, then is reduced by armor. That dmg is halved, then reduced by w/e life bond is at. If you guys can figure out an accurate way of testing this, I'd be happy to try it out. It is interesting to note that damage from attack skills (like Power Attack or Unsuspecting Strike) seem to bypass Life Barrier. ~Avatarian 86 (not logged in, at school, these computers suck!)
 * Life Barrier:"damage dealt to target other ally is reduced by 20...44%"
 * Life Bond:"whenever target other ally takes damage from an attack, half the damage is redirected to you"