User talk:Vipermagi/archive2

Archive~6 Oct 2007

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this is me 2nd spoiled page.

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Aurons was the 1st

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 * Uhhh... right... I'll just ignore that --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 19:14, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * NOOOEEESSS, why u archive?--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:01, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Cause it was getting long. Too long. --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 13:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:siggie
lulz youre signature sucks! 17:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You are signature sucks? Wuzzat? And your sig is fulgyandsoon --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I d o n t  c a r e  [[Image:ShadyGuySigByMe.jpg]] 17:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * n e i t h e r d o i y o u s u n n u v a d a w g --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Mehiamtolazytousethespacebar.. [[Image:ShadyGuySigByMe.jpg]] 17:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Then your sig still sucks --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Nott [[Image:ShadyGuySigByMe.jpg]] 17:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Green Backpack
you think that was a waste? i put a black dye on a BELT POUCH. wts black belt pouch! Metalmiser 04:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * lol... Anyhow, it was kinda sarcastic :P --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 06:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

HOLY
en hoe is 't met holy dragons? :D (oud lid HOLY en KaaS, abbadon op jullie forum) ~ Abbadon321


 * Tgaat wel goed hoor ^^ Bietje stil van tijd tot tijd, maar d'r zijn plannen om daar verandering in te krijgen... nu nog uitvoeren :P --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 16:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi
-- (Talk) (Contr.) 18:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * again--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 19:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm really perplexed you Hi'ed me twice.--[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 19:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Its cuz u never answered the first one. :p--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 21:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi v2
-- (Talk) (Contr.) 02:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha Diablo 2 much?
Skin of the Vipermagi FTW. DKS01 06:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Wewt, someone recognized it ^^ You're, like, the third... --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 11:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Never liked it much. Nice stats with the +skills and resistence but it's a pretty ugly armour. If I wanted a light armour then Archon-Plate FTW! --Blue.rellik 11:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I never really cared about how it looked. The reason I copied the name (sortof) was cause it was the first useful Unique I found (at the time, I only had a sorc)... ^^'--[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 11:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, regardless of looks Viper is a great caster armor. Skills, resists, AND faster cast on 1 armor is hard to beat. Even post 1.10 with all the uber runewords and stuff Vipermagi is still a viable endgame caster armor. DKS01 12:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * And that concludes the discussion: My name is derived from a wonderful Unique in Diablo II :D --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 12:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Upgraded of course. Great mods are useless if it offers no protection from the hit from Lister and co --Blue.rellik 00:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if your casters are are getting hit by Lister and company you're not doing something right to begin with, if you're not a barbarian, paladin, or melee druid you really shouldn't be that close to the fight at all. Unless you're buffed with Shout or Holy Shield, a few hundred defense is barely gonna make any difference whatsoever. My sorc wears an armor with more defense than even an upped Vipermagi, and Lister still hits her EASILY the very few times he gets close, and that's with chilling armor up as well. If you're a caster and wanna avoid getting hurt by Lister, you're better off relying on(depending on class) max block, bone armor, teleport, and/or energy shield rather than defense. DKS01 02:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It was a figure of speech. Obviously Lister isn't the only melee guy in the game --Blue.rellik 04:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And the same thing I said about Lister applies to every other melee guy in the game too, so what difference does that make? If you're a caster, don't get close to the melee guys. Teleport away, and let your merc(and minions, if available) occupy the meleers. And when you do end up getting close, a few hundred defense isn't gonna make a real big difference late game, as I said, you're better off relying on max block, bone armor, or energy shield to save you, regardless of which melee things you're fighting.
 * God this is why I insult everyone. Because everyone takes everything I say so damn serious, it was a tongue-in-cheek light-hearteded jap at Vipermagi. Yes a caster should never get hit but to say that you can just 'teleport' away all the time is wrong because if you could then there would be no need to get end game armour if low def armour works. Obviously there are times when your mana is low, your merc/minion is dead and you're surrounded, high block won't save you since you can't get block locked anymore. Of course that shouldn't happen but if you're playing in Hell then there will be times when that happens. --Blue.rellik 07:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My hammerdin didn't get enigma till well into 1.10. Prior to that, he used vipermagi. I can count the times he died for reasons other than my net disconnecting(but not removing my char from game) on 1 hand, and have fingers left. Low def armor does work if the mods are useful, and for a caster, Vipermagi's mods beat the mods of many higher def armors easily, and is and SHOULD be used over those. The reason people get endgame armor is cause, generally speaking, the mods are better. I mean, people already make Enigma in breast plates, light plates, and mage plates, I've seen pally Spirits, Dragons, and Dreams made in non-elite(and thus lower def) shields on more than 1 occasion as well. And as I said, if you get in a situation like the one you described there, a higher def generally isn't gonna keep you alive anyways. Sure, it's nice to have it as high as possible, I agree, but if choosing between a high def armor with uninspiring mods or a plain non-upped Vipermagi for my casters, well, Viper will win everytime. That said, most of my casters use light armor enigmas these days, even my sorcs(so I can use Spirits without investing tons in strength), so my poor Vipers aren't being used as much as they once were. DKS01 14:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Or you could just have a lvl 82 barbarian and bash the heads of everything you don't like the looks of. And Hell is Hella hard, really. --Progger 12:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hell can be really hard, but it can also be really easy...depends a LOT on character build and gear. If you're playing using just stuff you found, or playing variant builds like blade fury sins or warcry barbs, Hell can be immensely hard(especially for melee types). OTOH, if you're loaded down with high end runewords, uber uniques, torches, annis, etc, and running most of the cookie cutter setups, you can easily solo it even in full games. I still need to make me a barb though, haven't made one since Bnet sort of expired my old 09 WW barb. These days, I have a hammerdin, lighting/orb sorc, nova/orb sorc(09 build, challenging to play now), smiter, 2 auradins(1 HShock/Fana/Conviction, 1 HShock/HFire/Conviction), ranger pally, blade fury sin, fury/rabies werewolf druid, and a summoner/bone hybrid nec, and have started me a wind druid. Yeah, still play regularly, heh. DKS01 14:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh I can tell you do :D I only play single player, never took the time to make a multiplayer char. Hence I have no cookiecutter build or whatsoever, just put my points in whatever suits me best at the moment :) And it got me through Hell (Eventually). Stone Skin Magic Resistant Immune to Physical Immune to Magic bosses suck though.--Progger 14:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL, yeah, bosses like that pretty much suck online as well, heh. You oughta start a multiplayer dude sometime man, can make things a lot easier. Plus, if you played on US West I could probably hook ya up with stuff, or get ya rushed or whatever too if ya wanted. DKS01 17:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I suxed @ DII:LoD when I played it. [[Image:PaintballerSig.jpg]] The Paintballer (T/C) 06:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Userpage
sux. 16:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * * dramatic tune*... Shit happens *anti-climax* --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 16:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Jelly = win --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 16:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * /agree --Progger 17:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * BTW: me != emo, you little, Dutch, not-knowing fr00b --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Wut? --Progger 12:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It was a delayed comment to the LAME tag... --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 15:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Check jij je inbox op de holy site eens ff. --Progger 20:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

bla
Heb jij die professiondingeshuppeldepup al ingelevert? Zo ja, hoe of wat? :D --Progger 14:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Nee, en ik pm Bas straks voor zn Elektronische Postbus Adres, dan stuur ik daar t doc'je heen. Die host m op de saai't --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 14:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * aai't--Progger 14:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

necro build
I have been trying to find the person who had a UW necro solo build but didnt post it can I CAN'T FIND THEM are you that person? Man I hate my memory. Bartelby 13:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hope you don't mind me playing spokesman for Vipermagi, but as far as I know he hasn't. And I know him pretty good ^^ There is a solo SS-omancer (or was it SV?) for UW though, but I found it really hard to play. Let me look it up for you. --Progger 13:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Click --Progger 14:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I can't even solo SV bosses on my necro, cause I don't have: Spirit Bond, Mending, Prot Spirit, SoA, Essence Bond and neither Balth Spirit. So, that's nowhere near a solo'er :P And if I had one, it'd be on my userpage ^^ --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 14:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info guys, I'll take a look at the link when I get home from work today. I found the build on accident so I may never find the user again, but oh well.  I will probably keep 55ing with my monk and I've just made a Rit to try to farm in the UW. Bartelby 18:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Your sig
Isn't plain arse anymoar, so ur signing on my guestbook is incorrect.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 01:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, the sig THERE is still plain arse, so technically it is correct. --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * but you still have a plain arse sig. [[Image:ShadyGuy.jpg]] 17:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, ok, I just ripped it from DII... I CONFESS!!! --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:42, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey ^^ Dikke 13:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

HAHAHAHAHAHA
I PRWED YOUR GUILD LORD IN THE VERY LAST SECONDS OF THE TANKBATTLE HAHAHA I AM SO HAXXOR HAHAHA &mdash; Nova   &mdash;  (contribs) 17:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It's cause Progger wanted me to prwn Bob! Else I'd go to your base and wtfp00n all in there :D --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I said go back but oooh no would you listen? nooo, 's just a harmless little bunny isnt it ooh noo, not dangerous at all, noo, don't listen to me... I'm srsly running out of Monty Python quotes --Progger 17:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I was talking about the match en whole, not the end --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * :) &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 17:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Happy November Day
<3 tyty. =) --BlueNovember 09:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
For fixing the link on my userpage, it was a bit late :P 21:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Y'welcome :P --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 21:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you... Not only am I an idiot... I've been up a little too long today ~_~ Isk8 22:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I make such mistakes often. Don;t worry, you're not the only one! --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 22:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well you know, with this guy running around playing the vandal, keeping an eye out for any more crap hitting the spam filter. Been up just a little bit too long today, so my eyes are burning watching the monitor at this point :P Isk8 22:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I know the feeling. Although my eyes don't ignite --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 22:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Note to self
Include a secret message with credits -.- -- (s)talkpage 23:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 22:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There I did it are you happy now? :) &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 02:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * yay? ^^ --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 05:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

:P
Check my list.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 19:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I needa do something real quick --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 19:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Omg! Marco! that wasnt very nice!! ... can i take vipers place? If no your mean for taking viper off, if yes w00t viper you suxx..

=P Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 19:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * * sigh* :P --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 19:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I liked my revision moar. --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I love how the cool peoples list is still leet according to your userpage!--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 20:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It's about the cool peoples list, not the un-cool peoples list. --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Better this way, then? :) --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you people ever actually play guild wars? Lord of all tyria 20:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL. Check the list again viper.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 20:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I play daily. And what now? --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ololz... Gimme *punch* --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Kills viper* End of =D.. why not just make a new one for both of us? =P oh wait vipers dead.. Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 20:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There are only 5 spots on the list, and that is the way it shall stay.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 20:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * * Ninja's with bones* prwnd. *deals a killer blow* *steals bones* *steals meat* *steals fat* *steals more fat, dang there's a lot* *buries in tar* --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Random Thought
Yeye, I did :) I love rockets. And it is the weekend, yay. Can't wait for scrimtaime. Except is it Progger who can't scrim qq? Oh well &mdash; Nova   &mdash;  (contribs) 20:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's you. Psht. Want to scrim right now, I'll check if Bob is on. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 20:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * BTW: I can be on this weekend. Miscommunication... Not going t explain --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I can log on tomorrow, and sunday, the entire day if I wish, AND I HAVE A PVP SLOT WEWT --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 20:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And btw: compressed rubber iz cool too --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 20:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Im bored.. =D Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 21:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Get a cracked version of Armadillo Run and shoot some rockets! --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 21:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * =D.. wanna go spam Marco's userpage again? Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 21:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 21:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * So for the third Extra level, I just position a compressed piece of rubber to smash a hole in the spiral and use an elastic sling to fire the armadillo up in the air, fall down through the hole, and into the portal. Leet! We don't even need to use something to get it to go up the spiral. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 22:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And, explain yourself right now. Btw I think we should merge some talk pages. :p &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 22:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict...)I dont bother doing stuff like that. I just create my own levels, and blow stuff up ,and blow stuff away. I once made a catapult that leaped it from the outer left corner, to the outer right corner, after stretching it all the way. And it crashed through the landing pad. And thus I reinforced it with Anchor Points XD BTW: Explain what? --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 22:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You're genius. I've been pondering and came up with a basket and a rocket that went wooptydoo through the loop but it got stuck in the end >.> --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 22:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I make vehicles. I'm working on a tank that can withstand rocket attacks. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 13:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That's not all that hard... --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 13:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm a noob. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 19:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Naaaah. More, like, inexperienced :) --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 19:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Viper, are you online? i just msged somone by the name of rainbow pheonix and they were on next to the name Little lightning.. =X, they said it wasnt viper Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 18:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Dude, my IGN isnt Little Lightning --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 18:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Your userpage says it iss Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 18:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No it doesn't. It sez Iightning, not Lightning --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 18:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I said... Oh crap O_o Little Iightning? O_o I in the place of L, wth? Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 18:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Typo --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 18:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

So many reverts, so.... Um? time
=D, so many reverts! Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 17:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Boredom ;) --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 17:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm bored.. wanna spam my talk? =D I'm going now so Nn all regardlessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss-wuh? oh sorry i fell asleep on my s button againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn-- wuh? oh sorry i fell asleep on my n button.. =D Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 21:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Userpage? COOL! --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 22:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Z0mg.. I said talk! Z0mg, you r liek now a candidate for bannz0rz! Vandal! =O Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 18:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Iron Mist
For your Frenzy Wander build, I don't understand why you use Iron Mist, and I don't understand why you say "for helping people without lightning damage". Iron Mist is for people who *have* lightning damage. --Carmine 23:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That is kinda the point. Seeing my wand would be the only lightning damage, and seeing wands suck, the Iron Misted enemy can't die for the duration. It's not ment to really help, and only use it to annoy people, really. Can be humorous. --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 22:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * like the uber GvG monk, best build ever made imho--Fighterbitsj 16:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Teh Judas Monk --[[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (s)talkpage 16:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)