Talk:Knock lock

how can it be achieved with a warrior? ive seen it done to me once but i didn't know how the enemy did it. with normal atk speed: Knockdown - attack - knockdown -> will result in a 0.5 sec window in which the enemy can use skills with 33% IAS: knockdown - attack - knockdown -> is too fast and wont knock down a 2nd time. that guy had it perfect i couldnt move 1mm, and not even use a 1/4 skill. how to do it?


 * You wait to use your KD instead of just spamming them every time they charge. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You can't really wait since the timing for skill activation is off at a certain "point of no return" where it will execute your automatic attack instead of canceling it with a skill, and you will use the skill on the next attack only - much like rangers. No - they guy had something with timing that made it impossible to use anything. Maybe no stonefist insignia + 33% ias?


 * ...You can cancel autoattacking.--- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  15:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * But he WAS autoattacking/using skills on me in between.
 * Knockdowns last 3 seconds with Stonefist, and under 33% IAS a Hammer swings every 1.17 seconds. Thus he can KD you, get off one attack skill, wait for a little bit, then KD again and repeat. Unless it was Backbreaker, which will knock you down for 4 seconds at high enough Hammer Mastery, and in that case he could use two attack skills, or one attack skill and one autoattack. But either way there is this frame of time where he has to wait before using the next KD. Also, KD does not take effect immediately, there is a short delay after you are knocked down that no further KD affects. This lasts slightly longer than the actual duration of the KD.
 * Long story short: It takes practice but it is totally feasible mathematically. Anyway he was probably using "For Great Justice!" or similar buff to build Adrenaline faster. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)