User talk:Dirael/Mafia2/11

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gogo --Shadowcrest  14:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Revenge for posting in my page: You used the Magus Stones image before. Day 5 I think. Prz it's boring. ♥ Mis fate ♥ 15:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm neither dead nor alive, QQ. And I wanted Rata Sum, because it's the end of the game. And you missed another re-used image, because I was too lazy to go through all the days. Sorry :P --Shadowcrest  15:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * KK. /lessQQ+apology. ♥ Mis fate ♥ 15:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Drama omg! Thanks for taking us ghosts out, let the three remaining duke it out by themselves.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  15:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd like
to see Progr die. Lynch Mafia. --- -- (s)talkpage 16:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That is particularly non-precise. Is that a vote for progr? --Shadowcrest  16:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it wasnt actually. I want to cast a lynchvote on the remaining Mafia member. But you wont let me, will ya (not like I did above)? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, sorry :P --Shadowcrest  16:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Right. I don't think Viper is mafia, but that is purely based on Thoughtful's comments. Therefore - lynch varon. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 16:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny proggr, I have to agree with you on that, except...Lynch Proggr...well Viper, thats up to you who you vote to lynch, And this will be rather ironic if it turns out viper was in fact mafia...--Varon Searer 17:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * yeah, that'd be awesome. But,II'll get Varon lynched, so, meh. Die kthx --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 17:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Blah, ok wtv...Shadow, plz phail on my role like you did with goldenmama :P and if Viper's mafia, i dont care, cuz it was good since i didnt suspect him, but if progr is mafia...well that'll suck cuz i was suspecting him >_> ...--Varon Searer 17:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Should've posted my table here for Viper to see:

From that table it looks to me like Progger is Mafia, ESPECIALLY since Varon cast the finishing vote on a Mafia (and ESPECIALLY since it was the Mafia LEADER) --Gimmethegepgun 18:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Too late. Lord Belar 18:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Lies! its not too late >_<...blah wtv, its fine...Mafia win...unless...wait..no that, viper is probably twin so he has no power he can use now...damnit --Varon Searer 18:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I dont give a shit about votes. Voting is luck rather than knowledge when he/she is Townie. A Mafia however knows who is Townie, and thus can avoid to cast (lynching) votes on Mafia. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 18:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's not all luck. When someone never participates in a successful vote to kill a Mafia, while other people do (especially when there's only a few people left) it VERY strongly implies Mafia. Varon also cast the finishing vote on Belar, and a Mafia doing that that close to the end of the game would be retarded --Gimmethegepgun 18:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it actually would be a very smart move. Besides that table doesn't prove much for either Varon or me. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 18:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would help quell suspicion, but if you haven't even VOTED on a Mafia that got killed in that vote, then it isn't a very large showing of Townie. While if you assisted in killing off THREE (and was the finisher for one) it gives very STRONG evidence for Townie. Also, Belar attempted to start a bandwagon against Varon, and starting a wagon on a Mafia when you are Mafia should probably be avoided too --Gimmethegepgun 18:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Cress was the finisher on the goldenmama lynch, OrgX was the finisher on the Jio bandwagon... finishing votes don't really say much. When looking back at it from a mafia members point of view it might, but townies know nearly nothing when casting lynchvotes, it's all guessing. So when a person votes on a mafia it doesn't automatically clear him or her of suspicion, as it might be luck, or a smart mafia move. I also voted for Belar who turned out to be mafia, but nobody paid attention to that. You can't tell much from looking at lynchvotes imo. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 19:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * How is it evidence for Townie when someone casts a vote? Esp a finisher vote is insignificant. A Mafia could use a finisher vote for covering his allegiance, by thinking that way. What even matters less, is the role of the lynchee, cause noone knows it. You however seem to attach worth to that ("and ESPECIALLY since it was the Mafia LEADER"). Luck of the Draw. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 19:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I noticed you voted for Belar, Progr, and thats why i didnt suspect you, but it wasn't til later that i noticed you voted AFTER the requirement was reached, which meant it didnt matter if you voted for him or not since he was going to die anyways...--Varon Searer 19:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just chill. The game is over, we just have to wait until Shadowcrest ends it officially. Nothing can change the outcome now. I hope you made the right decision, Viper.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  19:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I mean on day 8. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 19:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ohs...Haha, then I proved your point right :P....anyways, where is Shadowcrest >_> --Varon Searer 19:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)