User talk:Dirael/Mafia2/4

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I'm back! Thought ful  00:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup. --Shadowcrest  00:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit suspicious of Warwick right now. Yesterday she asked for everyone to change vote from lynching Jedi, to lynching Misfate, before you (Shadowcrest) would see the majority, and Jedi ended up being Mafia. However, I'm also suspicious of Goldenmama for the same reasons I was lynched in SC's first game. Thought ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 00:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * For being a trigger-happy nub? :P --Shadowcrest 00:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Trigger-happy, yes, nub, no. Thought ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 00:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

... Oh wait, Jedi was a girl.. &mdash;♥May♥Wick♥ (T) /(C) 15:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Good morning everyone!
What is for breakfast? Misfate 01:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ...charred Gigathrash? --Shadowcrest  01:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

HAI GUYZ
Lynch Viper and Shadowcrest I had Ascalonian law changed so everyone can double vote if one of their votes is for Shadowcrest. Misfate 01:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I wanna ynch Isk8 and Shadowcrest Misfate  02:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Reason: Read Isk8's comment Misfate  02:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Goldenmama too many shifts in view points. Thought ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 02:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Goldenmama and Thoughtful. You know what they say about people who come back from the dead... "People who come back from the dead are mafia". -- Brains12 \ Talk 02:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you give me a good reason to lynch me? Thought ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 02:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What kind of idiot would bring a mafia back from the dead? Unless the twin or possibly inventor is also mafia. But wait! Thoughtful was killed at night, why would the mafia kill him and waste a rez on him? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 02:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Is Brains12 the double voter or did he misunderstand the change in Ascalonian law? Misfate  02:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Shadow! <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 02:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Brains for being nonsensical.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 02:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You lynch him for being nonsensical when you're lynching a doublevoter? :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  02:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's unlikely for the double voter to be Mafia. Unless Shadowcrest mafia bias (due to townies cheating last game) is factored in. Misfate  02:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I generally try not to remember that game existed. :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  02:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Brains is doublevoter? Oops, nevermind.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 02:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (Reset indent) Actually, come to think about it, even if I was pissed about the townies cheating and gave the mafia a bonus, I still wouldn't. Because it should be very clear about how "fun" it is when the townies talk out of game. Honestly I wonder if interested in playing would still talk out of game regardless of whether I added in the rule you can't or not. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 03:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't understand anything that you just said, Shadow.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 03:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if I was mad about my first game when I planned this one, I wouldn't have given the mafia a bonus anyway, because I'm AGFing. And since talking out of game took the fun out of my last game, I don't think anyone would this game, so a boon to the mafia would be dumb. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  03:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Lynch Goldenmama x2 - changed my mind about Thoughtful. You know what they say... "change your mind about Thoughtful, and you'll lynch a mafia". -- Brains12 \ Talk 15:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Did I mention?
I hrd we shud lynch isk8. Misfate 02:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You did mention. Since Misfate's not a Mafia, I'm out of ideas today. So I'll follow your plan! Lynch Isk8![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh noes! I just found out that Goldenmama has legitimate evidence on MP! Lynch MP, because Goldenmama's resoning makes total sense! [[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, she was right, Jedi was mafia. <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 03:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * HE was right, but that reasoning still makes no sense, especially because I couldnt find the part where MP defended her.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, I was the one who defended Jedi the most. Which means Goldenmama is probably going to accuse me loudly, incessently, and in ALL CAPS LOCK!!!1[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * lynch mp. -- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * <BIG>LYNCH TEH MP NUBS!!!!1!1 -- GOLDENmama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * lmao --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 03:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I laughed SO FREAKING HARD when I saw the little lynch mp  <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful  [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 03:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) You find that funny, yes?-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

PEOPLE I SUSPECT TO BE MAFIA
-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * MP
 * Isk8
 * Goldenmama
 * Jedirogue
 * SOMEBODY ELSE
 * You can stop suspecting Jedi, she was lynced yesterday and was, indeed, a Mafia.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds nice. I think the last spot is Viper. All of them also did not vote for Jedi in Day 3. Also the mafia ratio in last game was 17:4. It sounds about right for the ratio to be 20:5. Misfate  03:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't really think Viper is one, but I could be wrong. Obviously me being on that list is a joke.-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Or is it? OMG REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY --Macros 03:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * GAH! YOU ANSWERED MY x3 EC'd question!!!! <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 03:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Goldenmama also is unlikely to be Mafia because Shadow probably made him Townie because of Mafia bias and because he knew he would be one of the first people to be tried to be lynched. Misfate  03:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? Maybe Shadow knew you would think that and made him mafia to fake you out. --Macros 03:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Gah confuzzling-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  03:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Reverse psychology is hard. Misfate  03:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lets lynch Goldenmama, then lynch MP tomorrow if he's a townie![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Obviously Goldenmama is pretending to act confused to throw suspicion off him. BUT I KNOW THE TRUTH! --Macros 03:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

We have you now, fiend! Lynch Goldenmama!<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem with reverse psychology is that its use causes people to suspect reverse psychology in play. So by not using reverse psychology, you're using it to make people think you're using it when you really aren't. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  03:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lets stop thinking so much and kill somebody.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Remember to cross out earlier votes when you change your vote. <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 04:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Too lazy, sorry.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  04:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If you refuse to do that, at least change the main page for me. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  04:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  04:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  04:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Reasons to lynch Goldenmama
1. Playing Mafia is confusing with Goldenmama around. 2. He didn't vote to lynch Jedi yesterday. Misfate 04:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Need more pointing fingers! Hard to lynch anyone if nobody shoots their mouth off completely and makes themselves seem like mafia. (aside from Goldenmama.)
 * Personally, I don't think lynching Goldenmama is a good idea at this point. Lynching someone because they're annoying you is a waste of a lynch, IMO. If he's mafia, he's not a huge threat at the moment; same goes for the reverse.
 * So, who else is there? Misfate's the triplevoter, which pretty much makes him a townie. Thoughtful got killed already, which also pretty much makes him a townie. (I'm leaving room for error, but I'm still 99.9% sure on these.)
 * Cross those two off. Cross of the dead ones as well. Who's left? Fourteen others. Unless you're Misfate or Goldenmama, that makes thirteen others to think about (Misfate and Goldenmama already know they're townies, presumably). If you're Mafia, you have less to think about, but at the same time, you've got no reason to figure this out, so get lost.
 * So, who's been suspicious? MP's attracted attention (somehow), but there's not much else on that tack. Isk8 also attracted attention, but hasn't really done anything suspicious yet.
 * I personally am working out a few things, but nothing concrete yet. I'll wait a bit before I make a vote. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  07:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * *points* Well, there's another pointing finger. Mafia would be true-blooded idiots if Thoughtful was a Mafia, so he's safe during the day (unless the Mafia really were idiots). Golden has himself on his suspicion list, making him look suspicious. Or he's a Vengeful, somehow. Or he's just suicidal.
 * Basing on someone voting or not on Jedi is, imo, crap, cause sometimes a decision is made without knowing (like on day 3, I wasn't online when the Jedi-bandwagon started. Does that make me Mafia? Misfate seems to think so!).
 * So, Ima <S>lynch Belar</S> cause I feel he's being left out :) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 15:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Goldenmama for being ununderstandable. I mean, we cannot ever trust him like this. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 15:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll hop on the lynch Goldenmama bandwagon. I dun wanna be lynched if hes mafia! &mdash;<font face="vivaldi" color="purple" size="4">♥May♥Wick♥ <font face="vivaldi" color="purple">(T) /<font face="vivaldi" color="purple">(C) 15:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would a mafia member (supposedly me) act so suspiciously by being a trigger-happy nub that I am?? That doesn't add up-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  16:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Wrong page
But this is the one everyone is currently reading so I'll ask it here: where can I find the rules for mafia? And where can I sign up for the next game? --Macros 15:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Jamsters mafia, iirc. &mdash;<font face="vivaldi" color="purple" size="4">♥May♥Wick♥ <font face="vivaldi" color="purple">(T) /<font face="vivaldi" color="purple">(C) 15:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Randomtime/Mafias has a list of all mafia games coming up. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 16:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

my REAL evidence on MP
Shadowcrest said that one of the mafia hadn't even signed up yet, eerily close to the time when MP posted on Shadowcrest's talk page about an e-mail. ALSO, while digging through the history of MP's talk page, I found this. Read the hidden message. Why else would someone who HAPPENED to be in a mafia game HAPPEN to tell the administrator that something works, if he didn't have some trouble signing up for a mafia forum?? So I presume that Shadow was referring to MP when he said that one of the mafia hadn't joined yet.-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  16:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You have a point, but for one thing, I've stopped believing you in Mafia. For another, I don't believe Marco would do something as stupid as that. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 16:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Besides look at the date... it says 25 march :|. I find it very unlikely that one of the mafia hasn't joined yet, 3 weeks after start of the game. I won't believe you, but one can never be sure. It's not very good evidence. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 16:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, golden, you're half-way correct. I was only asking Shadow a question about my ambiguous abilities for my role in the mafia game.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 16:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh noez!
My tent! Kinda late :P Anyways...ima go for...Lynch Goldenmama(I am not writing out that ridiculously LONG name O_o) How sure am I? Not sure at all...but it could be Goldenmama was trying to use reverse psychology (or just simply confuse people). He says he knows Jedi is mafia, but instead of lynching Jedi, he lynches MP, who tried to "defend" Jedi. Since it tunred out Jedi was in fact mafia, it could be Goldenmama was trying to take atention away from Jedi, so she wouldn't get lynch, and instead, we'd lynch a townie...I guess,dunno if I got that all right but wtv...--Varon Searer 18:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, he's a burden on us whether he's townie or mafia. We can't use someone who was given a mouth speaking grave lies. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 18:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Bandwagon! Lynch Golden --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, but at least, if a townie, he would give us an extra vote...well, he probably vote for someone else...I guess the benefit of him being a townie is that he adds on more to our numbers...? Mehh...wtv --Varon Searer 18:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If he's a townie, he'd use his vote against us. So, no, he's of no use to us. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 18:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Agrees Lynch Goldenmama (EC) SNOWBALL!!! <B><font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B>  19:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * meh. lynch Goldenmama. Cress Arvein(Talk) 19:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Your lucky, Varon. My assigned Mafia role is Tent Patcher!<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  19:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If I'm mafia, why would I make it blatantly obvious by being a trigger-happy nub??-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  20:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Reverse psychology.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  20:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Omg, ya'll are noobs. WHY ELSE would marco put a hidden message meant only for shadowcrest's eyes that said "it works", only to be subsequently removed BY shadowcrest unless it was something that wasn't meant for other people of this wiki's eyes! Once I get lynched and you find out that I'm a townie and that you guys are bandwagoning dumbasses, will you at least lynch MP?-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  20:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * He's dead anyway. I am typing his death paragraph as we speak. Who would you like to kill Gmama? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 20:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Marco, it's ironic that way. Also, If I don't try to lynch Marco, he'll probably give me a clean death. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 20:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Isk8. I'll leave it to you guys to lynch MP for me.-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  20:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (Reset indent) Pick someone. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 20:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (Reset indent) ISK8-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  20:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * WOOT!-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  20:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait wait wait
Charr Hunter- If killed at night, they can choose to kill another player before they die. Huh, isn't lynching a daytime action? -- 20:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're defending a mafia member by saying that.-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  21:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Prolly a typo, and not that it matters much, because if Isk doesn't get shot now, he is guaranteed to get lynched tomorrow :) --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 21:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, he's following the rules. Fuck, I completely forgot that clause. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) I'm trying to keep the game fair. Remember last time? I don't want to win if it isn't fair, alright. Anyway Shadowcrest, can you explain this? --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 21:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Bah, now what? --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 21:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe you mean "I don't want to LOSE because it wasn't fair!", orgx-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  21:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, ok, I had a feeling goldenmama might jsut be a townie but wtv...most will say he had it coming anyways...--Varon Searer 21:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm so mad at myself. Now the game is unfair, and it's my fault this time. Rawrzorz. I would just rez him, but that wouldn't work to well... sorry guys. I'll think of something. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also mine, I should've noted the limit on my ability, but I didn't even realize that it was a daytime kill. Sorry guys, /selfphail-- slightlygoldenyellowalmostmaccaroniandcheeseorangemama  TALK TO MEH!!  21:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, and you were trying to blame ME. /doublefail --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 21:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, what does it matter, what's done is done. Just changing the role from nightkill to daykill won't affect the game at all, except for the fact that Isk is dead now. The mafia just have one less person now, maybe recruit someone privately as a mafia? Or just let it be. Just my 2 €ents.. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 21:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, inverting the clause would work perfectly, as far as I can tell. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth . Eh, whatever, it's your game. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 21:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I know it does. I screwed that up badly, but that's the only viable solution that has presented itself to me. I'm sorry. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * *Cry* -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="maroon">Sk8 (T / C)  21:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, lynch-revenge is how the Vengeful is supposed to work in the first place. Poor Isk, I'm sorry we cheated. But it's Shadow's fault![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Moar Shadowcrest mafia bias. Good game. Misfate  21:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, Could have been worse. Day could have gone 1 day longer, and I could have been killed while out of town.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="maroon">Sk8  (T / C)  21:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's OK, we'll lynch MP tomorrow, and chances are he's a Townie.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

So Shadowcrest is recruiting a mafia member privately?
QQ. Good night. Hopefully Warwick/Viper will have a delicious breakfast waiting for us in the morning. Misfate 21:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm debating it. But I think that would be even more mafia bias, because then that's basically subbing in an innocent for death rather than a mafia. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * How about disabling the doctor tonight because he wasted his medicine/tools "trying" to save Isk8 to make up for Charr Hunter role mistake? Misfate  21:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That could work. Bleh, I'll think about this. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This might sound cruel, but why should the townies pay for Shadow's mistake? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 21:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Uhh... Misfate  21:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Though tbh, the doctor is basically useless except in cases of pure luck. For example, it is generally assumed that thoughtful is town. Assuming he is, the doctor would likely prot thoughtful, just so his prot isn't wasted. But then any half-wit mafia would know better than to attack thoughtful, because he's so likely to be protted. So the doctor really doesn't do much. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Reverse Psychology hurts. <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19px]] 21:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Give the Mafia 2 nightkills tonight, maybe? That could even it out.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyone who argues that the town should have to suffer for something that wasn't their fault is probably mafia. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 21:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not Mafia, I'm just remembering how much it sucked to be Mafia last game in that one game that never happened, when we were cheated against so badly.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Although admittedly, that one WAS the townies fault, so it kinda ruins the comparison...[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Or wishes to prevent the drama that was Shadowcrest's last game perhaps? --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 21:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, i think recruiting a new mafia member secretly wouldn't work... on the other hand, I think Entrea's idea would work...mafia gets away with 2 kills tonight? Seems like it'd work good --Varon Searer 21:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, its a little unfair since its not the Townies fault, but a game you cheated to win isn't much fun...[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Townies aren't cheating if the townies didn't do it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That is true... Stop using logic on me![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Felix has a point, I think the best option would be to let it as it is now. Charr Hunter had a wrong description and Isk got killed - can't blame him for being angry about it. But there isn't a point in compensating, it won't work. It was a small mistake, let it rest. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 22:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I hate it when felix is logical. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

(RI)I say we all get to double vote as long as one of those votes is for Shadowcrest. Kk? Misfate 22:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess you're right. In any case, all Golden did is follow the role rather than the description.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

To the doctor...
I'm no use for keeping to the mafia! Everyone knows I'm townie! Protect me please! <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful  21:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)