User talk:NieA7/Build:Mo/Me PvE WoH Monk

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Discussion
What's the point of Dwayna's Kiss without any enchantment and hex removal that is mainly used as energy management so you need to cast it? Makes no since you can not put an enchantment on and must rely on allies to put an enchantment and if you need to remove hexes so that you can cast anything.

Because it is a low cost spammable healing spell that will heal you for a nice amount of health. And this is primarily a proph build. And since prophecies monks don't have so much spammable low cost healing spells this is ideal for this build. -- S i  g  m  A   05:34, 3 February 2007 (CST)

Why rebirth? Even near wipeout a healer is more useful w/energy then without.

Hex removal
Why revealed hex? I am reasonably new but doesn't that copy the hex for 20 seconds leaving you unable to remove further hexes? If that is the case wouldn't a simple remove hex be more efficient. It is only a net gain of 3 energy at the cost of slower hex removal and attribute points. Don't find it worth the bother.
 * wasting 2 seconds on removing one hex is two much for any monk that wants to play better than henchmen. i dont like revealed hex either. but i dont wanna waste 2 seconds. solution: smite hex or holy veil. 15 (12) seconds recharge and 1 sec cast time. thats ok imo. and you can save your attrib points that way, too. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] contribs 16:16, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Definite waste of attribute points. Don't mind Revealed Hex cause it works as a super cheap self hex removal just not at the expense of loosing points in Divine Favor.
 * there are five main ways to remove hexes as Mo/Me as i remember:
 * Remove Hex: long cast; short recharge; low cost
 * Revealed/Inspired Hex: short cast; very long recharge; very low cost or even e-gain
 * Smite Hex: short cast; medium/long recharge; low cost
 * Holy Veil: short cast; medium recharge; low cost; needs clicking :]
 * Others: long (rarely short) cast; long (sometimes short) recharge; very high energy cost
 * - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] contribs 15:00, 3 April 2007 (CDT)

Maybe this is better?
PROPHECIES ONLY

healing-12+3+1

divine favor-12+1

protection-3

I ran this, it was godly everywhere. --68.45.25.117 14:45, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Personally I prefer...

Healing Prayers 12 + 1 + 3 Divine Favor 12 + 1 Protection Prayers 3 + 1

I hate being restricted to Prophecies-only Monk skills, since there are a lot of nice new ones, but meh. Orison is inefficient without boosts like Life Attunement or Aura of Faith to boost its power. Healing Seed is very good, Heal Party on a Monk is meh (have to go /E or /Me for that generally), Vigorous Spirit is a cheap and spammable Enchantment for Dwayna's Kiss and a quite effective long-term heal on its own. Signet of Devotion is for energy management, though it's not usually needed too bad. Good to use when in a spell interrupt-heavy area, though. I take Mend Condition over Mend Ailment because it will actually heal for more than just the Divine Favor bonus. True, you can't remove conditions from yourself, but with good battlefield tactics you should never be in enough danger to suffer from Dazed or such. I prefer Remove Hex to Smite Hex at no Smiting because you can remove more "hexes per second", about twice as many. 1 second longer cast isn't really a killer. Not being able to remove important hexes is. (T/C) 14:55, 24 March 2007 (CDT)


 * i cant stand 2 sec casts... i already hate 1sec casts. thats why i go prot :D enough 1⁄4 ones there. this is also the reason why i only rarely have heal party, healing seed or remove hex in my skill bar. holy haste is the best skill ever... after healer's boon :) - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] contribs 08:13, 25 March 2007 (CDT)

The problem with this preferred build is you have no ressurect, which all Monk's are expected to take.. maybe replace healing touch ?
 * ppl who expect monks to carry a res are noobs imo... what's the template for that userbox again? - Y0_ich_halt  [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] contribs 07:40, 4 April 2007 (CDT)