Talk:Drop rate/Birthday Present

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proposed change for miniatures drop rate, combines level one and 2, columns can be selected and copied into word processor to tally totals easily &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by I EatClowns (talk &bull; contribs) 04:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC).


 * What this needs is some template work to do the tallies automatically. I'll get on it in 12 hours or so, if not, remind me. --◄mendel► 06:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This looks good but is very hard to edit, because it is almost impossible to count the columns. It is almost easier to make a petition-style count for them (who is going to add more than 1 of the same in one go?) that can then be tallied automatically. See Drop_rate/Birthday_Present/draft and Talk:Drop_rate/Birthday_Present/draft - give me some time to design something, meanwhile I am moving this over, please discuss there. --◄mendel► 17:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * i see what you mean about the counting, but at teh same time, it allows a person to enter all their mini's in one post and makes end tally simplified, the list also makes it a little more difficult to enter multiple minis without confusion. maybe a merge of some sort could be achieved.  maybe breaking teh main chart down into 3 smaler peices, one for gold and green, one for purples, and one for whites, with a 4th chart to summurize teh data from teh other 3 from an overall percentage.--I EatClowns 20:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * also, just look how long all teh lists get so fast from multiple entries required. i have a idea change to try, but it will have to wait for a bit, im sure if we work together, we can make this work well, and maybe use positive changes to upgrade all drop rate information, but one step at a time.--I EatClowns 20:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

starting from here, and have aseperate one for commons might be a way to go

New draft available (now with counting)
Have a look. It is still possible to do several minis in one edit, it just takes more scrolling, but you don't need to spell the names right. I am goingto write instructions on teh page, but for now I'll just say here that you need to If someone forgets steps 2-6, the next person can easily do it, and it is easy to check whether the counts match. --◄mendel► 00:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) add your sig on a separate # line to all the minis, one line per present opened
 * 2) preview
 * 3) take note of the numbers and put them in the tally at the top
 * 4) preview
 * 5) take note of the computed total and put that in the tally at the top
 * 6) save


 * The only issue i see with it is just how incredibly long that page would get--I EatClowns 04:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The page is actually not longer than the present page - one line per signature. There is less wikitext on it, too, so the 32k warning will come later. The sections themselves are really short, and they are easy to find. And the column is narrow enough to maybe put first and second year data side by side, but I don't think that is necessary. The page can always be split into three pages. --◄mendel► 04:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Eh ?
user: becomes 01:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC) for me.

The User: part should be left out, to correct it. Besides, why bother with timestamps on a table? --- -- (s)talkpage  01:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Nvm.... Didn't notice the page was already changed (had this in an old tab... ) Ups. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  01:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Timestamps have always been there. I suppose it helps people remember what they added. --◄mendel► 03:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * the time stamps also let teh person updating teh table know how far back to go, makes it a lot easier--I EatClowns 04:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Draft is ready to go live now - objections?
Any objections or other comments? --◄mendel► 04:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * my only objection is stylistic, ii just like to see dividing lines in a chart, just makes it easier to read. other suggestion would be to have names in 2 columns under the minirature on teh data collection, just to make teh whole white area filled out some, and save space.--I EatClowns 07:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)