Talk:Winds of Change

To do: --Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 12:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Afflicted have new skill bars
 * Am Fah have new skill bars and mobs
 * Jade Brotherhood have new skill bars and mobs


 * As I mentioned here, Some of the Afflicted have several possible skillbars. Necros definitely have 2 possible options, one using monk skills and one using rit skills. --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 12:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Also see here for new Purity skills and new Soul Explosions. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 12:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Precedence vs practicality
Currently, we have consensus for Initiate Zei Ri to be linked at the first occurrence within the article, I find this to be less useful than having it linked in multiple places/within the hierarchy of quest/NPC links. I find that it would be much more useful to readers if he was either a) linked in both places, or b, have the two sub-sections merged with a note disclosing the difference between the sets of quests. In its current state it is a fairly large inconvenience having to copy/paste his name into the search bar when you're not thinking / forgot that he was linked right above.

tl;dr article could be improved by changing the Zei Ri situation. Thoughts, Gwiki editors and readers? ∵Scythe∵ 00:18, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Listing it at the first appearance would be correct, however when I look at the page, what I see is: 'The ministry of purity.  In no special order, here are the quests given by: Zei Rei, Tsuriai, Zei Rei, Xan Hei...'  Oh, I know an order is used, its just not stated.  What about splitting things out not unlike how they appear here or here.  Or if I directly state it: If the current format is confusing to people, use a different format that precludes confusion.  As is, the page has very little to say on the ministry, it just offers up a list of quests in 'no special order'.  Yamagawa 01:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * here are my proposed changes. ∵Scythe∵ 01:27, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The quests are in the order that you do them in. What is so confusing about that?  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 04:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I pretty much agree with Ishmael. The order of the quests seems most important to me. --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 08:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I didn't catch that (not done past imperial guard and first run with zei ri), but here's my revised revision ∵Scythe∵ 16:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

No where near as good as War in Kryta
So far, rather disappointed -- some nasty missions in NM that become stupidly difficult in HM (aside from gimmick builds requiring special chars which you might not have) and not really good drops. Cantha has generally sucked when it came to drops (quality and quantity) all along, and no improvement here: So, nothing like confessor orders, royal gifts, minipet drops (unless these show up in the later add-ons). The 'never before seen imperial' weapons better be damn good, and not screwing rangers YET AGAIN (no envoy bows at all, destroyer bow is hideous, no animation in oppressor bows, etc etc etc) (have you guessed my main char is a ranger, yet?). If you're going for survivor, avoid this update like the plague. GW-Susan 01:25, 21 July 2011 (UTC)