User talk:209.221.76.5

Ban discussion
Suggest permban this time. --Bishop (rap|con) 13:01, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * IP is probably shared, 1 month at least KittySoft 13:04, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Yep its from a school district--Draygo Korvan 13:06, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Doesn't matter too much, it usually doesn't pose any problems to block schools (experience from the danish wikipedia shows they're the worst source of trash and not productive at all). If banned users from the school can still view pages. --Bishop (rap|con) 13:17, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * In addition we can attempt to contact the school itself and file an abuse report. Many schools do have policies on this matter, and can result in the termination of the users internet privleges. --Draygo Korvan 13:20, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * The School Board has a website, if you think it will help, I'll be glad to fire an email off to them. --Chrono traveller 13:24, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I think it would be best for a guildwiki mod to do so, as to not spam the school board with messages.--Draygo Korvan 13:25, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Thats fine. Thats why I posted before I emailed just to make sure 10 people didn't send emails.  It is probably better that a mod do it. --Chrono traveller 13:28, 2 June 2006 (CDT)

I think it will soon become clear (if it hasn't already) to our new friend that he can't win against an army of dedicated wiki watchers. I oppose permanent IP-based blocks in general and for this IP in particular because it is obviously shared. A cooldown of a few days or weeks wouldn't be bad, though. Involving the school board on this is too much trouble, I think, though if he continues his rampage, it might be the best option. &mdash; Stabber &#x270d; 13:29, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Like I mentioned, I have some experience from the danish wikipedia that shows leniency with school IP's only comes back to bite you in the hiney. However, it is certainly no big deal; banning is simply a tool to keep the wiki clean, not a means of punishment (meaning that if the vandalism stops, there's no need for a ban). I agree that contacting the school board is too much trouble (it will lead to nothing most places anyway, because as you mentioned, the IP is shared and the culprit not tracable). --Bishop (rap|con) 13:38, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I also dislike perma-bans, especially when an IP is known to be shared. However, in this case, the only edits in GuildWiki from this IP have been vandalism, so I have no problem suggesting 3 months. --- Barek (talk &bull; contribs) - 14:05, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I tend to agree with Barek. After reviewing this IP's contributions, they are all merely childish vandalization of pages. - Greven 14:13, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * That is a lot of vandalism for someone who should be concentrating on schoolwork. I work in IT for a school system myself. I suggest having a sysop contact the tech in the school district, explain the situation, and ban the IP for 2-3 months. This should give the tech enough time to investigate the vandalism. If it were me, he would then either block the site from the school district's end (which is the most likely option he will do), keep an IP log that shows which stations try to access GuildWiki and restict those stations, or if the vandal is the tech (gasps), he will wait till the ban is over and do it somemore.
 * If it was a higher learning institution such as a college or university, I would lessen the extent of the ban, however being that this is a district comprising K-12, I think an extended ban is warrented. --Gares Redstorm 14:34, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I know what was going on, that user needed some brushups in simple math =). Agreed, ban is warrented and could be justified to be even longer. --Draygo Korvan 14:43, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Well in principlie, permanent bans on users for a first time offense (collection of offenses) is not a good policy. Ok, so the guy discovered he could edit the pages, thought he could blank the wiki, thought that would be leet and elite, discovered he couldn't. End of story. Now, if he comes back again with a purpose, then we talk about permanent banning. For now, as a policy, we really ought not to ban anyone for their first bout of childishness. --Karlos 19:24, 2 June 2006 (CDT)

Arin Report
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OrgTechHandle: DLU5-ARIN OrgTechName:  Luscher, Dave OrgTechPhone: +1-905-727-3141 OrgTechEmail: noc@yrdsb.edu.on.ca