User talk:Zerris/Archive 3

Congratulations
You are one of five finalists in my build competition. Similiar to Nog's contest, users will vote on which they think the best of the five builds is, but I will still be the final arbiter. Good Luck! *Defiant Elements*  +talk  19:56, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yay. Not surprised my build made finals (I was hoping to win both contests, but alas... :p) but how did my Damageless Killer make Honorable?  Does it even work?  (Side note for full disclosure:  I never even tested that Me/Mo build, for all I knew it could have been utterly broken.) --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:55, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * It does. I tried it out as well as an N/Mo variant.  Both work.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  22:55, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh. Maybe I'll have to try them myself some time. *laughs* --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:57, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You can also solo farm Aataxes with a variant :) as I discovered to my delight. That variant I am keeping to myself though.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  22:58, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Not surprised. Only reason I couldn't was because I could only do 600 dmg in degen and Aatxes have 1,150 health-ish.  Since I doubt you managed to double the damage, I'm guessing you found a better way to chain Amity? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:01, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yup. Works very well.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:02, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, if you max Protection Prayers, you can use 50% Recharge (the cap) to get nearly constant Amity. Quickening Zephyr comes to mind as the only non-elite skill that can halve recharge time.  Serpent's Quickness comes to mind as a close second.  My only question is, if you went Mo/R...  How would you kill?  Rangers only do degen when it's attatched to damage, unless I'm missing something. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:06, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * And if you're not reducing Recharge, there are only 2 posibilities; Echo the skill or increase its duration. Since There are no skills which increase the duration of non-illusion based hexes, it would have to be echoing, and the only echo skill available to you solo is the one I used in my build.  Which brings me back to square 1.  What am I overlooking? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:10, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Or the last option, namely to duplicate the skill in another manner. In this case, you could bring Pacifism.  But since it's single target, and Aatxes come in groups of 2 or 3, I fail to see the use. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:13, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, my method doesn't work perfectly, it doesn't actually deal directly with Amity, it just gives you a little extra time, time enough to kill aataxes. Works a reasonably high percentage of the time, and, it is solo mesmer farming aataxes in an unconventional fashion which means it deserves honorable mention.  Another interesting idea would be to use Soothing Images.... hmmm... well, that means they could then use one skill, now, how can I block it... *goes off to think about best ways to do so.*  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:16, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Nah... Soothing wouldn't work. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:17, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Glad to see I'm not crazy yet. I didn't think there was a better Amity Based build for this purpose. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:19, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

(reset Indent) Oh, and do I get to see my score for this contest too? --   23:20, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * No, my idea still works, I have playtested it. Now though, I am thinking of trying a solo Mesmer farmer using Signet of Midnight + Epidemic to farm small groups of Aataxes.  But what is the best way to deal damage...?  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:22, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * instantly pops to mind... --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:23, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, but if you can kill with spells, you can probably do more damage. I was thinking E/Me with SoM and Epidemic (both unlinked) and using Ele AoE.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:24, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm sure Ele AoE is fun and all, but you'll never have enough energy to take out an Aatxe. They have insanely high armor, and as previously mentioned, a lotta health.  Elementalists are not built for Endurance. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:27, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Oh, yeah, and your build got around an 80%  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:25, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm surprised I even got 10 out of 30 on "Original" for an IWAY build. Just out of curiosity...  What were the 33% of builds that were *less* original? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:27, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I looked it up, your actual percentage was 72%. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:30, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You got 72%, Skuld got 70%, InfestedHydralisk got 80%, Zaq got 83%, and Abs of Glue got 65%, so you are right in the middle. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:34, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Not too bad. We should have more of these "Make a build with restrictions" contests, they're fun. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:55, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, I will have a new one soon. I am also going to be hosting a create a skill contest.  There are going to be two categories and each will have a winner.  One is for skills that would actually be cool to have (i.e. blanced skills with cool abilities) and one is best joke skill.  But, I do like these build competitions and I will see what I can do.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  09:43, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I got 80% :O, is that good? I mean, what's the % about? InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 09:52, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 80% = you scored 80 out of 100, according to this rubric. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   17:11, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah yes, thx :) and good luck on the contest :) InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 17:28, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You too! --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   18:12, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Although the polls are not yet closed, you currently have three votes (at five points each) which means your score is 87% putting you in the lead by 2 points over InfestedHydralisk who has a current score of 85%. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]] *Defiant Elements*   +talk  16:55, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You think i don't have a little score chart myself? :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   16:57, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * argh >_< InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 17:28, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, as I said, voting isn't done yet. I want at least 10 votes before I actually close the polls or I want one of the builds to have a clear lead, and 2% is hardly a clear lead, so despite what I say, until one of those happens, the polls will not close. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]] *Defiant Elements*   +talk  17:30, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Ahhh, InfestedHydralisk for president! anyone? :P InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 17:32, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Are you sure you want to be ? He seems unfavored. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    17:38, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, errrr, I mean...Zerris for president! InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 17:40, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * The voting seems to have dropped off a bit, not unlike a boulder going over a cliff. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   11:21, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, slow voting here :( InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 13:42, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Edit Conflict - Personal Best
I did it! I got an Edit Conflict with myself. Now where was that template... --   22:49, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

If you mean the userbox, it is on my page. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  22:53, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

And for me, it's actually true. :p --   22:58, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

Zerris... normally I would accuse anyone of being a liar. However, your pwnage mad skillz make this impossible edit, possible :D. Readem (talk *contribs ) 23:13, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

--   00:13, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Actually, I'm being honest. I made an edit, and as I was hitting "Save Page" I saw a mistake, so I quickly hit back and edited it, then hit "Save Page" again.  It gave me an Edit Conflict with myself. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:35, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * And use

after your Userboxes, not before them silly. --   23:36, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I am not silly...just confused about nearly everything. Readem (talk *contribs ) 23:44, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

Don't be too proud of yourself, that happens to me daily. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  00:12, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
 * See where it says "personal"? You know, like, the Title? :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    00:14, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe, he's got a point there, DE.
 * ...but on that note, don't be to proud of yourself, I've done that plenty of times as well. *steals userbox* --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 01:16, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

You Won!
Congratulations! You placed second in my contest! Until I think of a better reward, here is a userbox (feel free to edit the colors/text):

*Defiant Elements*  +talk  23:05, 14 April 2007 (CDT)
 * My generic Userbox size is 64px, but aside from that looks fine. Added to my page. Thanks! :) --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    02:10, 15 April 2007 (CDT)

User:Defiant Elements/Drunken Master
Got any insight? *Defiant Elements*  +talk  01:01, 16 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Constitution's inheirant effect is waaaaaaay too powerful for a non-primary attribute. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   01:04, 16 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Also, to insure game balance while preserving the concept, I would make the Primary Attribute affect the appearance of the game like drukeness (increasing effect with higher attrib levels) but not count for the drunk title. In addition, I'd give Primary Drunken Masters some special Bonus for achieving Drunkard and Incorrigable Ale Hound titles.  Something without any real effect, but maybe a bonus title or cool appearance. And you should make a dance for them, I wanna see it. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    01:14, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

Alright, I edited Constitution so it no longer has any inherent effect, but raised their base health. A couple of other things, as to the title, it should be noted that while some of the Skills can replicate the effects of drunkenness, Drunken Masters can also use normal alcoholic beverages to induce the same state. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  17:42, 16 April 2007 (CDT)
 * As long as being Drunk is not required to enhance performance. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   20:11, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

Templar skills
Thanks for helping :) InfestedHydralisk   13:41, 16 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Any time. :) --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   13:43, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

-cat
In case anybody was wondering, I got angry and went on a rampage. I am removing every single campaign based category tag from every single page on which it does not belong, and am commenting on every single favored template on every page on which it does not belong. --   21:36, 16 April 2007 (CDT)
 * 400 Edits later, it's done. If anybody, while archiving the builds section, puts a single build in the wrong catagory... I will hurt them.  Especially if their name is Solus. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    05:14, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Maybe, maybe not...
Might be interested in the new SoW. Just thought I'd let ya know. Readem (talk *contribs ) 23:49, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

A bit late, but...
Why did you move the user talk to main name space? It seems kinda random, especially since you were against it anyway. -Auron  02:58, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Because just prior to that, the user had moved all associated content to said namespace. I felt the talk should stay with the content, even if the content was not appropriate. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    03:39, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

BuildWiki Lives!
Well, although the fight isn't lost here, I am notifying anyone who was involved in my Collaboration program about this site:. User:Gcardinal took all of the existing templates and builds and transferred them onto a new site which is essentially buildwiki. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  23:08, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Update
This user would like to list their official support for the new update which killed solo farming, on the grounds that making somebody run around on their own for hours is an unsocial and illogical method of aquiring money. This user loves their PuGs.

This user would also like to not be stoned. --   08:55, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Attribution in build archives
Hey, have you properly attributed your archived builds? If you have, you've got nothing to worry about come the builds wipe... but if not, they'd be in violation of the license once the builds are wiped :) -Auron  05:22, 22 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Thanks for reminding me... All 4 builds now have credits, in order by # of contributions. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    14:38, 22 April 2007 (CDT)

Help
In a few days, I will have the largest most organized archive :D (Contains all Tested Builds). However I need some help making a template...you know the skill template? I want to make one similar for my builds :D. I made the archive so that everyone can use it so the help would be appreciated! I also asked Entropy just to let you know O.o... :D. Readem (talk *contribs ) 21:46, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Hrmm? Skill Template?  If you mean this, just go ahead and make the build with a PvP char, Save it as a Template, then go to "Start", right click, go to "Explore", then "Program Files" then "Guild Wars" then "Templates" then "Skills" then just copy the line of text from there into this:




 * If you mean something else, explain it. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   22:16, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe, well thats not what I am talking about at all lol :P. However, though I may be labled as a template noob by Entropy ;), I think I can create what I mean :D! Amazing I have learned! Readem (talk *contribs ) 22:26, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You might also mean this. Beyond that, I'd just be throwing knives in the dark.  And that tends to hurt. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:28, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Ahhh, thought I actually knew how to do this O.o... could you show me how to redirect before I hurt someone? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 22:33, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Redirecting is nice and simple. just type this at the top of the page.  Stuff below it will be ignored. (And not viewable, without editing the page)


 * #REDIRECT InsertDestinationHere


 * --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   22:44, 22 April 2007 (CDT)


 * K this is what I have so far, I don't quite understand how to redirect though... any opinions?

<font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 00:00, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

Invited
You are formally invited to partipate in the new SoW. This weeks skill was chosen by User:Skuld. There is also a new contest involved. Create a Build focused around the current SoW, to win 2 things a User Box made by me (Skuld denied I am pretty sure) and the ability to pick next weeks SoW :D. Gl and enjoy! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 17:32, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You're too late. Mwahahaha. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   17:33, 24 April 2007 (CDT)

Crazy?
Ok, still waiting for the aok from Auron, but I have come up with a pretty neat idea. Not only am I creating my giant Build archive, but I am now creating a History archive (out of necessity). This archive will include EVERY Tested Build's History! It will be divided into 11 categories. War, Ranger, Monk, Mes, Nec, Ele, Sin, Rit, Para, derv, and a master archive. The end product of this archive will hopefully save countless hours for tons of users. Simply paste " Monk History Achive at the bottom of any Monk archived Build, and your done :D! Though I would like it tremendously if you helped me out, it is NOT AT ALL necessary. Perhaps I will have to do it by myself again lol (ughh drowning in archives...) The only ones allowed to help me w/ these archives would be you, Entropy, and Auron (only if he wants to). Merely to prevent vandalism. If you have better things to do on the wiki, or are just plain busy, politely decline and I'll perfectly understand :D. (sorry for any gramatical errors, kinda in a hurry) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 22:30, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
 * One tiny question... Can you, or have you, made a template or program such that when you click on Monk History Archive it automatically links you to the history of that specific build?  --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:37, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe, me? I am referred to as "Template Theif/noobie" by Entropy. The thing is, the archive is not going to be specific, only alphabetical. I am talking about manually doing this. (If I have to I'll do them all so nothing to be stressed over). This dramatically simplifies things as well. Meaning that the histories will be stacked. For example this:

Monk Build Histories

Build:Blessed Escaper "History"

Build:"So and so" "History"

Now I will probably be dedicating hours upon hours organizing, compiling, and improving this Archive (Along w/ Build Archive) Remember:You don't need to do this if you don't want to. You however, are one of the few on the wiki, I trust has good judgement (The rough draft of the archive will be done sometime before May 7th. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 22:54, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Much as I would love to help, I am afraid I must bow out, due to school. My apologies. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   22:56, 24 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Np, I might be able to do it myself... as long as the admins don't mind the Histories being sloppy at first. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 23:12, 24 April 2007 (CDT)

Yep
He posted that build in my archive, and I didn't relize he just moved it lol. Deleted the tags like I usually do. Make sense? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 01:20, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Just put it back the way it was and nobody gets hurt. >_> --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   01:23, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Much Better. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   01:48, 25 April 2007 (CDT)

Cowbell
--8765 01:44, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I feel like Skuld again. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   01:47, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Dang it! Edit Conflict with myself.  Stupid Edit Conflicts... --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    01:48, 25 April 2007 (CDT)

Europe?
For those wondering, I finally decided that with the new scrolls, it wasn't worth having a Euro account just for favor, and have switched it back. --   22:15, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
 * If you log on right now i can give you the answers to your challenge.... but i got like 15 mins max so.... hurry up lol. if not, catch me tomorrow around 6 PST.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 22:45, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
 * just missed me... sorry. ill definately be on tomorrow for a good amount of time... bound to see u in taht time.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 22:56, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

wakey wakey
were both on, but ur not responding...-Cheese Slaya
 * >_> --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   21:54, 27 April 2007 (CDT)