Talk:GuildWars.com news/20060721

Guild Wars Encyclopedia [Specialty Fansite]
Our new status, way to go GuildWiki! --Draygo Korvan (Yap) 14:19, 21 July 2006 (CDT) woot ST47 14:25, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm guessing it's a good thing ... at least we've moved up from "Listed status" (I'm assuming) ... but, as they haven't yet defined "Specialty Fansite" in the Guild Wars Community Fansite Program, it's hard to be certian where they've ranked us compared to "Official" and "Elite" sites. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:25, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Quote: This listing includes a new, prestigious ranking—Specialty Fansite—which is awarded to sites that do an extraordinary job of presenting one or a handful of focused feature types or services. --Draygo Korvan (Yap) 14:27, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * That's the one liner; of more interest to me is the actual definition. But, from that same link you quoted, it also mentions "We will be releasing a new list of GWCFP rules within the next few weeks;..." --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:39, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Well a few weeks you must wait. =). --Draygo Korvan (Yap) 14:45, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

I am also curious as to the impact of this new classification on the "ANet hosting GuildWiki" discussion. Is this the culmination of that discussion, or an unrelated thing? I am still ticked off that they insist on classifying Photics as anything near GuildWiki. Once again, confirming that no one over there actually plays the game and mixes with the player community, despite the feeble attempts of The Scribe. --Karlos 15:10, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I think "Speciality" indicates being different from the norm though. And thus two sites both being Speciality Fansite does not, to me, signify they are similar or anywhere near each other.  From that perspective, I can see how Photics and GuildWiki both get flagged as Speciality.  What does fansite flagging have ANYTHING to do with whether ppl at Anet playing the game or not??? o_O" -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 15:27, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * It has everything to do with it PanSola. Does any user here (or in-game) use Photics or even care about it? No, not really. Why is it even still listed among the important sites? Because the owner/manager of the site is good at selling himself and building ties with ANet's community team. Why is it listed as a "specialty" site? Because supposedly, it's a wiki like GWiki. Is it anywhere near useful, thorough, up-to-date, loved, contributed to, as GWiki? No, not really. Well, why list it as a wiki when it's really a joke of a wiki, well, because if not, said owner would be upset. Everything else about photics is available in other fansites, the comics, the fiction, the forums, bla bla bla. The reason they are listed with us as a specialty site is because they proclaim to be a wiki of the game, the fact that ANet catered to such a lame claim is because their man plays the politics. If anyone involved in making that listing actually plays the game, they would know that no one references Photics in-game at all. Maybe said owner's circle of firends (which includes some people in ANet) care about his site, but no one else does. It's a shame and a sham. --Karlos 19:10, 21 July 2006 (CDT)


 * "Does any user here (or in-game) use Photics or even care about it?" in fact, I did, I still do, and I'll probably continue to do so for the foreseeable future. But because of that, my opinion is obviously biased in a certain direction.  But because you are of the exact opposite usage/carage, your opinion also has the potential to be biased in the other direction.
 * "Why is it listed as a "specialty" site? Because supposedly, it's a wiki like GWiki." I have zero clue where your supposition came from.  It's speciality, according ot the GuildWars.com fansite listing, is "Comic and monthly Webzine".  "Well, why list it as a wiki when it's really a joke of a wiki", well, it's not listed there as being a wiki, it's not listed as a wiki, it's not even mentioned to have a wiki.  In fact, IF Photics was put into the same class as GuildWiki because of Photics' own wiki, I don't think they Anet would've named the category "Speciality Fansite", but rather the word "Wiki" would be in the name of the categorization.
 * Make no mistake, I agree entirely with your assessment of the value of the Photics wiki, but that is not the entirity of the photics website. In fact, because I share your sentiments regarding the Photics wiki, I consider it not even 0.1% of what Photics.com has to offer.  In fact, I didn't even remember it has a wiki when I wrote "I can see how Photics and GuildWiki both get flagged as Speciality".  Hell, I go back to Photics more often than I visit the Guru. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 19:59, 21 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Edit: Just went back to photics to check on its current status on the wiki, just to ensure it still deserves the low opinion I have of it from months ago. Well, I can't find it anymore.  It could be I'm just blind and not able to find the link, but right now I'm more inclined to believe the wiki was removed from the site before Photics was even flagged as a Speciality Fansite, which removes the basis of Karlos' main complaint, unless Karlos is talking about Anet added Photics as speciality fansite because it used to have a wiki sometime in the past. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 20:11, 21 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Photics is basically a comic and magazine now. No real information of note there. I dare wager that GuildWiki, being a GW encyclopedia, can boast of more information than almost any other GW site out there, short of those calculation, debate and discussion threads in the fansite forums. Therefore I honestly don't care any longer what kind of ranking we get. All I hope for is that when someone asks a genuine question in-game, the standard answer of most veteran players will be "Check the wiki." Kessel 08:42, 24 July 2006 (CDT)


 * BTW, I am also suprised that Guild Cast didn't get flagged as Speciality Website. But because I don't personally use it, I can't really comment on the value of the content.  But it certainly offers somethign different from the typical fansites also (which is where my expectation of it being flagged as speciality stems from). -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 20:04, 21 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Ok, I just went to the site, and it seems to have gone even further down the drain that last I checked it (more than months ago). That even baffles me more. What is so special about photics now? How is that site doing anything different than say, Guru? --Karlos 01:09, 22 July 2006 (CDT)

Hopefully this boosts our ranking so that we get listed as a fansite on the box instead of being left off like we were for Factions. (well, on the flyer in the box, anyway) --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:42, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Hope we're in nightfall box.. i do hope &mdash; Skuld  15:45, 21 July 2006 (CDT)


 * So now we just need someone (Gravewit most likely) to get in touch with them to get our "seal" or whatever and have it show up at the bottom of each page (or top, side, middle, whatever). --Rainith 03:13, 22 July 2006 (CDT)