Talk:Shield

Any objetions to removing the list of shield types from this article as soon as there are articles to all (or at least most of) the shields and just link to Category:Shields? I'm planning to fill them in over the next few days. --Eightyfour-onesevenfive 08:13, 25 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * I'd prefer to keep the list, even if we have the category page filled. It doesn't hurt. I like to have the information all in one place instead of scattered all over the wiki. --Tetris L 20:24, 25 Aug 2005 (EST)

On a side note, I added and then removed again the following shields that are listed in the Prima guide. I have never seen any of them, nor could I find any info about them on the web: Can anybody confirm that one of these shields exists? --Tetris L 20:24, 25 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Bladed Buckler
 * Charr Shield
 * Militia Shield
 * Shield of the Dead
 * Spider Shield
 * Spiked Targe


 * Yes, I was already wondering where those come from. Never seen them myself, either. --Eightyfour-onesevenfive 20:42, 25 Aug 2005 (EST)

Shield Templates
I made some templates for shields (basically by copying from the weapons templates and editing a few words), you can see them at Defender. Before I go ahead and edit all shields, tell me whether you like it or if I missed something. Note that I also removed the link to Shield from the description text and made "Shield details" from the template link here. I think we don't need an extra article for this, everything of relevance is explained here. --Eightyfour-onesevenfive 18:57, 5 Sep 2005 (EST)

Directional Defense
I'm pretty certain that shields are directional, someone care to prove me wrong? --FireFox 06:40, 27 October 2005 (EST)


 * From my reading around the web, it definitely seems to be accepted that shields only protect from frontal damage. See [Importance of Position] or [Shields at Unofficial Guild Wars Site]. Also an excerpt from [guild wars and damage].


 * Shields play an important part because the shield's AL gets added to the base AL of the target. In the case of spells, this is always applied. In the case of weapon attacks, this is only applied if the target is being attacked from an arc of approximately 110-140 degrees in front of the target. For example attacking a player's front and they will gain the shield's AL, however attacking thier back will negate the shield's AL bonus
 * So based on that, you're both right... shields aren't directional against spells, but they are directional against attacks.
 * --Squeg 09:31, 27 October 2005 (EST)


 * Thanks for the clarification Squeg.    --FireFox 09:42, 27 October 2005 (EST)


 * I took a character out of Grendich Courthouse and found a low-level Charr with wild blow. I took off all my armor and equipped a shield (16 AL, with -2 while enchanted, but I never enchanted myself) and let it whack me from directly in front and directly behind.  The damage was the same both ways (I tried a few times from both directions to make sure).  This would seem to disprove that shields are directional.  --Fyren 16:57, 27 October 2005 (EST)


 * I disagree... It's quite possible that the effects of level were overiding armor reductions. The best tests for this would be done in a pvp setting where you can try out different kinds of attacks/spells.  While it's quite possible that the rules have changed since people tested originally, OR that the entire community has been mislead by one person's assumptions/miscalculations, but I'm unwilling to completely throw out what appears to be widely accepted without a bit more careful experimentation. You might be right, but I'll be dissappointed if you are. --Squeg 03:40, 28 October 2005 (EST)


 * I tested it on the doppleganger.--Cloak of Letters 05:05, 28 October 2005 (EST)


 * I see the note about shields being directional has been removed from the article. If we are 100% sure that shields are NOT directional, then we should point that out prominently, especially because this is in disagreement with the information found on some major GW fansites! I will do some tests about it myself tonight for more evidence. --Tetris L 05:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)