Talk:Primal Rage

Will strengths' armor penetration and this skills armor penetration be added together or will it be like penetrating blow?
 * Since this lasts 10s and disables skills for 10s, strength's AP won't even get used. --68.142.14.6 02:59, 31 March 2006 (CST)
 * Huh? Skuld  22:04, 10 April 2006 (CDT)
 * Strength. --68.142.14.14 22:54, 10 April 2006 (CDT)
 * Morale Boost -PanSola 23:25, 10 April 2006 (CDT)
 * Galen Trask Skuld  00:14, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
 * | Chuiu 20:23, 12 April 2006 (CDT)

Morale Boost can recharge a skill during the 10s disable period, so it is possible to for armor penetration of Strenth to happen with Primal Rage's effect. I have no clue what Galen Trask has to do with anything. -PanSola 00:00, 13 April 2006 (CDT)
 * :D Skuld  05:16, 13 April 2006 (CDT)
 * I would've said Killroy with his wierd party buff if anything, that might make the skills recharge before the 10 seconds, that or the Vizier.--Apocrypha 23:35, 24 June 2006 (CDT)

When I asked if strengths AP and Primal rage's AP will be added together I literally meant Strength and Primal Rage...I have no idea how anyone could have read into that differently.-OaS
 * And I had meant that since strength only applies AP to attack skills and not normal hits, it's irrelevant. Pan pointed out morale boosts could "unblackout" you to let you use skills.  Skuld remained confused.  --68.142.14.19 12:38, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Type
Is this a Shout or a Stance? Reason I ask is the skill box says Elite Elite. If you know, please make the correction or post here and I or someone will make it. --Gares Redstorm 14:01, 15 May 2006 (CDT)

Armor Penetration
It stacks with AP mods on weapons so you can do 20% + 20% armor penetration on normal hits using this stance. I'm dealing 115 damage with a hammer without using a single attack skill using this stance to AL 60 targets or 93 damage very often when only getting the effects of one 20% AP mod and a critical hit. (T/C) 18:53, 24 May 2006 (CDT)
 * And if you drop Judge Insight on top, does that mean you get 60% AP? Ouch... --Theeth (talk)   16:49, 10 June 2006 (CDT)


 * don't +Penetration modifiers stack multiplicatively? so it would be 80%*80%*80%=48% and change? --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:11, 3 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Apparantly not... I did a little test before, and think the results were negative. Not sure, maybe test it again after the event. In any case, sundering is proven to suck, so I wouldn't bother. Judge's Insight is a goos skill though, question is whether you have the energy to keep it up, and enough points in smiting or other attributes to still have a good warrior. Silk Weaker 04:22, 28 July 2006 (CDT)
 * sounds like a good weekend project ;) --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 13:15, 30 July 2006 (CDT)

Turtles
I bet a W/A could take on luxon turtles with just this and way of perfection :) &mdash; Skuld 07:26, 8 August 2006 (CDT)