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Wiki markup tables
Hi all, I am trying to make my userpage and I'm using some templates and userboxes. I want 'em a bit organized so I put all my userboxes in a table. My character template is also in a table. Now I want the char table to be align left and the userboxes right (same height from the top). I just can't seem to get is working. Any wizards around who can help me? Check my user page to see what I mean. Please don't just correct it tell my what I need to do different. Carnelain 09:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I solved it creativly. [[image:haiku2k72_leaf_bg_white_tiny.jpg]] Carnelain 11:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Survivor Title
I may be wrong, but wasn't there an update a while back that allowed players to earn survivor title even after having incurred at least one death simply by earning the required xp for each level?
 * Think you're wrong there. See Game updates, lots of people want it to happen, but I don't think it ever did.Jam[[Image:Jamster Sig.gif|19px]]ster 09:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Eye of the north quest
I've already done the quest Be quiet, very quiet... in EotN, but I can't receive the quest Plan A. Capt. Langmar doesn't give it to me. Why is that?
 * Try zoning, Plan_A--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 01:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Screen shots
I took 999 pics wich is max I found my screenshots folder and deleted all my pics and it still says my screenshot folder is full what do I do Prottosvszerg 15:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * sorry idk im not tech saavy. Lost-Blue 15:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you try just restarting GW? &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 15:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * GW may still be processing the massive change (deleting 999 files is a lot) so perhaps you need to purge the cache and restart GW/computer. If that doesn't work, as a last resort you could reinstall I guess... [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Quest log
Is there such a thing as a quest log where I can check on all the quests I have completed.


 * No, there's no log on what you have completed. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Unlike other games... I'm sorry, it's realy useful to have, but not a feature in GW RT | Talk  18:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you'd have to do that manually. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

green weapons
i killed bosses but the dont dropped grennn weapons.what shall i do?
 * Continue until you get lucky.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 17:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

it might take some time but u should get it if u have a full party in decreases ur chances of getting the drop though - maximus the second 7:35 march 31 2008

mini pet dragon
Is there any way to get a dragon other then buying the Factions Collector's edition? If there is how and how much does it cost? If not maybe the online store could start selling the mini pets.
 * Don't think so... and thank goodness it dosn't RT | Talk  19:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You can only get a Kuunavang by getting the Factions CE, or by buying it from other players. It's market price is probably still over 100k. And no, selling Collectors Edition exclusive items in the store is a bad idea, and thankfully it will never happen. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 20:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

name change
Is there anyway to change your login name or do you have to create a new account? Morgan Fairweather 01:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I see that it is a difficult task to name change. I will make a new account and direct my old account to it. Morgan Fairweather 01:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Owning Outpost
Is there an article about the mechanics of alliances acquiring factions outposts? I couldnt find on. What is the benefit of owning non-capitals? do you save massive amounts of faction, then buy one and hold it until another alliance saves up more? what mechanic allows them to change hands as luxons/kurzicks daily push eachother back in the alliance battles? can a kurzick alliance buy a luxon town, even if they are currently losing in the AB arena?
 * I think Kurzick-Luxon border has most (if not all) of the info you're looking for. --Shadowcrest  22:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

So is Kurz/Luxon affiliation unrelated to guild ownership then?
 * You'll never take HzH if you're luxon... so kinda --Shadowcrest  01:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I mean besides the capitals. So even if a outpost shows up as red on the map, it can still be owned by an alliance that is kurzick aligned? Also, does faction invested in acquiring an outpost degenerate with time? What i mean is, does an outpost get cheaper the longer a single alliance owns it, or does a new owner have to 1-up the previous owning alliance (and therefore each outpost continually gets more expensive as time goes on)?
 * As noted in the Alliance Faction article, your alliance loses 10% faction each day. If you want to own a town, you just have to be in a "top ten" alliance. The alliance that has the most faction in the game takes the capital. The next alliance in line takes the next free outpost furthest from the border and so on until all outposts are owned by someone. If the border moves, more (or less) outposts become available for that faction. If you want to take a town, you'll have to get a few million faction going and keep it up daily. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 04:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Essentiallly, as i understand it, for a faction (luxon or kurzick) to take an outpost that faction has to own the surrounding outposts (usually this means causing the border to go over that outpost). Now, once an outpost is under the control of a faction, it gets ascribed to one of the alliances of guilds belonging to that faction with the highest amount of alliance faction. The order in which outposts are designated is detailed on the Alliance Faction article. So, when the border moves, if the Harvest temple is under luxon control, it gets assigned to the luxon alliance with the 9th highest amount of alliance faction. If it becomes kurzick owned then it is assigned to the kurzick alliance with the 10th highest amount of alliance faction, because it is normally a luxon outpost, so if the kurzicks have taken it, they already possess their 9 outposts so the kurzick alliance with the 9th highest amount of faction has Durheim Archives. Of course, only 5 outposts for each faction can be taken by the other side, all others are permanantly assigned to alliances belonging to the faction with which they are alligned. E.g. Cavalon is always luxon, no matter where the border is. The benefit of owning an outpost is that it allows members of the owning alliance to access the restricted area of that outpost and gain access to a discoutn merchant who sells things cheaper, as well as some other NPCs depending on the outpost. Owning a capital allows you to gain access to elite missions.The movement of the border is decided by who has won the most alliance battles and by what margin in a 3 hour period.--Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  18:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

my log in account name
it put in my log in account wrong and now im trying to change it and its taking forever says i have to w8 why do i have to w8
 * ...what? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

nvm i got it its fine ty

buying stuff from the web sight
i am trying to buy something from the websight but it wont let me because i need to make a PlayNC account well im trying to summit it and it says network error internet connection is not good please check it when its fine how do i get this set up fast and easy so i can buy the bonus mission pack nvm i got it

New Quests on Desert
When I started playing Guild Wars, about one year ago, I've noticed that many people were getting lost, because there were no prymary quests in the Cristal Desert (Prophecies), but now there is a prymary quest!. I've checked the Updates and there was nothing about it. When did this quest appeared? I'm sure I haven't done it and I don't receive anything when I talk to Hosthly Hero in Amnoon Oasis...
 * The Sands Of Souls quest was there all along. It was a while since I've done Prophecies, but I think that many people miss it because the Ghostly Hero is quite big, and the quest marker isn't above his head, but "inside" his model. I don't see any Primary quests that would lead you to the 3 mission outposts though, so that may be the main reason. Personally I think it would be good to go exploring once on your own instead of following some green arrow... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 10:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Formatting of Wikipedia links
I have noticed that i cannot use HTML font colour tags to alter the colour of wikipedia links such as <font color=Yellow>random link. I was wondering if there was anyway to change the colour of these links?--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  18:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Try this: <font color=Yellow>random link . Or this: random link . (I am told that span > font. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 19:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, i don't know why i didn't think to put the tags right of the pipe, i just assumed it would mess the coding up. Also span sounds more technical and advanced so i'll use that :)--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  19:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Gaming Skin
I'm now using the Gaming Skin, but... all of the links are lightblue and hard to see and all of the text is white and i have to highlight it to see it, can anyone fix that?--‎ F<tt>i</tt>r<tt>e</tt>  T<tt>o</tt>c<tt>k</tt>  23:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can. Heres how: go to Special:Preferences and choose a better color scheme.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Pan Sola can, go post it on his/her talk page so s/he sees it sooner. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Gaming is just broken color-wise, either the main paage is invisible, or the rest of the wiki has no text, and in any case skill boxes fail[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, the section above talks about coloring links, what if you just used that. The yellow they used is perfect.--[[image:"Burn Baby Burn!".jpg|19px]]‎ F<tt>i</tt>r<tt>e</tt>  T<tt>o</tt>c<tt>k</tt>  23:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * So, um, do you guys want it to be "fixed" so that the background colors of the boxes work with light-colored font colors? Or do you want it to be "fixed" by having the background colors of the boxes be white and have black font colors in the boxes? -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 00:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Official Wiki Links
I have noticed a number of anon IPs creating links on talkpages to the official wiki. I was wondering wether we should remove these as Perhaps we should create a policy on the subject?--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  12:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The official wiki has already done enough damage to the numbers of people visiting this site
 * The official wiki removes all links to here that get posted on it
 * The official wiki fails
 * I didn't know what links from the official wiki to here are getting deleted <.<. As far as linking to the official wiki, it depends. I made a link to Gaile Talk in the update that limited Taiwanese users recently, and I think that link is important, so not every link would be bad... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 13:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, but I'd like to talk to them for being anticompetitive <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>
 * Yeah, it's rather silly, they're the bigger wiki after all (Taking users into account). Guess people will always dislike competition. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 13:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As an editor on GWW, I have to say I have never ever seen a link to GuildWiki in an article, and have seen many links to GuildWiki userspace, and never have I seen one be removed. Please provide examples.--Wynthyst 13:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Wynthyst, I am an active editor on GWW and I have linked to GuildWiki before and they have never been removed. Could you provide examples, as Wynthyst stated -- Shadowphoenix  13:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Regardless, we dislike you nubby GuildWarsWikians.. =P. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 13:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * {{userbox|id=UMG!:O|info=This user uses the Official GW2W. So, May hates this user.)) so there. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 14:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Untrue! I only dislike GWW, not GW2W. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 14:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * And the big difference between the two is...? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 14:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * One of them basically copied us, and the other didnt. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 14:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And GuildWiki copied Wikipedia... Huh? [[Image:Poke.gif]] Poke 14:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Shame on u poke, dont accuse ppl >.> this is a joke btw -- Shadowphoenix  14:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

{{ri}}This is not about who did what, other than whether or not GWW removes links to GuildWiki. I still would like to see examples of where that has occurred. Until then I think the request for a policy to remove GWW links is a bit unwarranted.--Wynthyst 15:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt there will be a policy <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  15:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It's userspace. The only rule there is obvious stuff, like NPA, YAV and the likes. Why forbid GWW links? Yes, the number of people here has decreased, but it's better than to have it dead (say, if Gravewit just unplugged it, rather than handed it over to Wikia) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 15:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the original question, I think it is important to distinguish between generic link spam, relevant reference/additiona-info, and personal user links to other wikis. The original question was talking about anons on talkpages, so links to GWW on user pages isn't an issue. I personally haven't actually noticed much posting of links to the GWW on talk pages by anons to tell if they are mostly in the link-spam category or useful/relevant reference category. I think we should just the links purely based on that, independent of whether GWW is being anti-competitive or not. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 18:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * {{ec}}Hmm, i seem to have started a massive argument about wether GWW removes guild wiki links or not. That is besides the point. My main question was wether or not we should change GWW links (i beleive we changed them to the guildwiki equivalents for an article from guildwars.com news, so i was wondering wether they were OK to be posted on talkpages). PanSola managed to answer that question with 1 post, so imo there was little need for a debate as to wether i was making unjust assumptions about activities on GWW. However, my resentment for the official wiki largely stems from the fact that this fansite existed well before GWW, and then Anet created an official version and this wiki is not mentioned on any list of fansitse etc. I think that creating a wiki was a fair sign of commitment by the fanbase and Anet somewhat damaged that, perhaps due to the fact that we allow more negative comments about Anet, which they cannot police on an un-official site. Is GWW anti-competitive, of course not, it's pro competetive, but competition in this area is, imho, not a good thing--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  18:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Going away party for Galie and the frog
I was wondering why the going away party for Galie and the frog ended 12 hours sooner than it was supposed to end?
 * The same reason they started 12 hours early: Anet is used to starting/ending at midnight. It also might have been to make up for the extra events before they were supposed to start. And they supposedly still had the final event, just missed the 3:00 and 6:00 ones.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Anet and Gaile
First off,Who is Anet and what does he/she do? Also, what did Gaile and The Frog do for guild wars?
 * Anet's the company that made the game, don't know how someone could miss that...
 * Gaile=The frog, and she did nothing for the game.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 01:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ArenaNet, Gaile Gray and The Frog. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 09:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You may also be interested in NCSoft and Izzy--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  11:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Archive
Hello, I need a little help. Seeing as how the coding is different on every wiki, I'm having some issues with trying to setup archives and making that nifty little box in the top corner of the talk page. I made an archive but am still unsure how to get the little code at the top of the page to make the box with the links to the archives. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. <font color="#9300fa"> J.Kougar  22:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can help, but first: What colors do you want the archive box to be?[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hum, well, I'm very purple and gray themed... so those would be good colors if possible. :)  [[Image:UserJKougar sig.gif|User:J.Kougar]]<font color="#9300fa">  J.Kougar  22:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okie day, I'll get right on it.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. [[Image:UserJKougar sig.gif|User:J.Kougar]]<font color="#9300fa">  J.Kougar  22:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Profile
Hi, this question is for Entrea Sumatae. I was wondering on your profile, how did you get all the boxs and a picture of you(nice brick wall) and put on your characters/ skills ect.? Thanks alot! Also how did you get the boxs at the top that say all the things that you have achieved?

-Zaroc
 * haha. If you have a question for someone, the best place for it is that person's talk page: User talk:Entrea Sumatae. Also, by clicking on the edit button you can see the source code of the page (and on the bottom are links to any templates used on the page). You can see how pages "work" and copy something if you want. If you copy something though, it's nice to give proper credit back. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 20:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, but I still don't know how to make the boxs to put all the source codes in. -zaroc
 * See Template:Userbox. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, to sigh your comments, use 4 tildes: ~ &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 21:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Ya, but how do i put those in my profile?
 * I'd say look at other userpages, mine's not very good. As for character boxes, I'm too lazy, so I don't even know how to do that. But for skills, use this template, for boxes, use the template Shadow just linked to, and to add a picture, type [[Image: ]] . Instrruuctions to add them are on the template pages.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  21:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:Mypage. Then type {{userbox and fill in the rest of the info. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * {{userbox|id-color=Color of "name"|info-color=Color of text|id="name"|info=text}} Copy/paste that onto your userpage and edit at will. Make sure you use show preview, tho, tho not spam up RC. The Id may also be an image, and you wont need the Id-color parameter then. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 21:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

So then the boxes Automatically like to my user page? Never mind, this is to complicated for me(i suck with computers), but thanks for your help anyway. -Zaroc
 * I do not think you understand how the code works, that userbox is a template that when you enter the code it automatically adds the template to your page, also please sign your comment on talk pages with ~ .--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There is a couple that i want like the one that says i am part of the kurzick alliance, but when i click on it, it doesn't give me a code.Zaroc The Evil 22:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Zaroc
 * That one would be {{User Kurzick}} . WHen you scroll down below the edit box when you are viewing a code there will be a list of templates used in the page, click the ones you want and there will be a code there.
 * Also, when replying indent your comments with : I am changing yours for a example.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Those are special templates. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How do i get them?Zaroc The Evil 22:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Zaroc
 * Well, for the kurzick one, type {{User Kurzick}} on your page. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How about the one that says this user play factions, and the one for profecies?Zaroc The Evil 22:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Zaroc
 * Those would be on my page. Scroll down and click the template links or just copy the code, you will have to look around to find other tho, see my post above.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

"Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in."
I keep getting this message when making edits. I tried re logging and it still dosen't work. Any advice?--<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  10:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Erm, and that edit worked...maybe its just template edits...i was adding concise descriptions--<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  10:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Its wikia. I'm getting the same thing on GuildWiki and GuildWik2. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 10:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah ok, my edit went through eventually anyway. Save page spam ftw it seems--<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  11:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm only getting that after I leave the edit window open for too long. I just click "Show Preview" and it refreshes the session data. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 11:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This sort of error only used to happen when I made really long posts or left the edit window open a long time. Usually your edit will get through but it may log you out or such. Not a real big deal, but slightly annoying. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually this has only happened for me on short quick edits...--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 05:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is why I said "used to". I don't know what the issue is anymore, and I am reluctant to blame it entirely on Wikia. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 06:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The recent incident is due to a technical problem at Wikia. It should be resolved by now. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 11:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, well it only happened twice anyway, so it wasn't a big problem. In hindsight, i probably should not have used the quote from the error message as a section heading, as it distorts the contents section and RC just a teensy little bit, er, sorry about that :P--<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  11:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Image Licensing
If i use cooltext to create a sig image, what license does that fall under?--<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  12:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it is public domain, "You are welcome to use any of the generated graphics in any way, shape, or form without asking permission." from their website.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 13:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ...which could technically also make it user-created image, since while Cooltext is the tools, Cobalt would be the one who "makes" the thing. Either way I don't think that would raise any copyright issues. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 13:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well if it does, I'll give the scary wikia lawyer types your address. Sorted.--<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  15:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

SUBST vs. TEMPLATE
Which is better? Seriously though, is there any difference between them and are there situations where one should be used instead of the other? If not, why have both? :S-- - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 19:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Both have their uses. Generally, substing should be used always when the the inserted thing is something that isn't going to be changed or shouldn't be changed, like your signature. Inclusion is used for repetitive information that might change or the information entered to the template should be easily changeable, such as monster and skill infoboxes. -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 10:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Account Management and contacting Anet/NCSoft
I have a friend that has bought NF, but he doesnt play anymore. I dont have NF in my account. He offered me his account, because he won't play. How can I switch that NF to my account? Is it possible? Do I have to contact Anet or NCSoft? I have tried to mail them but noone answered me... What is the right email for answering them?
 * No, I'm afraid that's impossible. There is no way to merge two existing accounts. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 10:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

But does anyone knows how I can mail Anet/NCSoft?
 * Sure, fill out a support ticket. There you go. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Still, chances that you'll get the accounts merged is zero. Not close to zero, but exactly zero. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 13:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, they might split your existing account into Prophecies and Factions, just to spite you. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 13:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "chances that you'll get the accounts merged is zero. Not close to zero, but exactly zero." Optimistic as ever ;)--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 13:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Optimism has nothing to do with facts. That one is a fact. :) -- [[Image:User Gem sig.png|Gem]] (gem / talk) 14:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It is also possible that Anet will send their hired goons round, as your friend giving away his account and you then using it is probably illegal, as the EULA states that players don't own their accounts and the stuff on them, Anet does (hence the ban on gold selling), all a player buys is the right to lease an account from Anet. Which overall means there is no chance of them doing you such a favor. Just wanted to add some more positive thinking :)--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 12:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Inscribable Grim Cesta (Gauntlet Skin)
Hi. I was just wondering if inscribable Grim Cesta Gauntlet Skin drop in-game with a curses req ? Thanks for any help ! --64.59.144.85 13:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Judging by the Grim Cesta article, Curses skins are the shield and gorgon skins. The gauntlet and talons are tied to Death Magic. There's one green with the gauntlet skin, and curses requirement though: Villnar's Glove. Unfortunately it's hard to say something about the drops, since that part of the article looks pretty incomplete. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 18:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

as cold as ice
how can a dervish kill that glacial griffon? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Derwish man (contribs).


 * Try changing your party setup [[Image:Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg]] | <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B> 11:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Try the Cold as Ice article. Also, you can sign your comments by typing ~ after your post. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 11:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * i did but nothing for dervish &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Derwish man (contribs).


 * Still Unsigned lol :P --Cookie™ (Talk |Contribs) 09:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars gold
My Character name is Vince Xaka, i recieved 700k that i did not buy. Now my account is suspended and im going to lose my gold. Is there anything that can be done?
 * Theres nothing we can do- We're not actually Areanet. The best thing to do would probably be to go and fill out a support ticket on the Anet site. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png|Hello]] Warw/Wick 14:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This may be slightly violating GW:AGF but, you "received" 700k that you did not buy. How did you receive it? It just appeared in your account... someone just randomly traded you 700k in LA?  And you are worried that because you are suspended, you will loose your gold that you "received".  Sounds very um.. whats the word... fishy...
 * To actually submit something of use to this conversation, Guild Wars Support Page -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  (T / C)  09:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You had to know that you was recieving it as you must of traded 7 times for 700k.... unless it was gold and items? --Cookie™ (Talk |Contribs) 10:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Submit a support ticket, and tell them your situation, ask them to remove the gold from your account, you may need to have a block time, but if you are telling the truth, they probably will unblock you (I heard a story like this, a blogger had, I think it was a fan order some gold for him, and he got suspended) [[Image:Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg]] + <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B> 06:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

HEROES
Do you have 2 have nightfall to get heroes. or can u just buy eotn to unlock the hero ability?

If you only have eotn then you will get 1 hero of each proffesion, to unlock the rest you need nightfall.-- 09:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

AB question
Have noticed a recent trend lately while in AB...players joining guilds just to AB and somehow killing off their characters themselves (over and over again) to give the other side more points. Is there anything that can be done to stop this? It's very frustrating (specially if monking) and takes away from game play. The last AB match hadn't even started yet and the other side had 12 points before we were even out of the gate. Is there a place to report the names/nicks of the players or is this just part of the game? Thanks for listening &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dawn (contribs).
 * Yes, you can report them by targeting them and typing /report. It would qualify as leeching. Also, sorry for moving your post. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 06:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Submitting a ticket to Support might also work. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  06:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I realy don't see the point in this, you don't benifit, random others from the other side do, why would anyone waste their game time to annoy other players, when they don't get anything [[Image:Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg]] + <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B> 06:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Some people just do it to grief other players, some think that by making the "other side" (Kurzick/Luxon) lose, they somehow win. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  06:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol [[Image:Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg]] + <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B> 06:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it's funny. I used to join Kurzick ABs with a friend; he'd sac to death in their base and I'd make him into a minion army, then sac to death, and the minions would kill people as they spawned. :D [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 06:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It can be insanely amusing. I know some guys who would use BiP, Lively Naomei, and Death Pact to cause tons of trouble over and over. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 23:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Before the EoE bomb nerf, people would use it to grief too, only it was much worse. I was in a few ABs where the opposing side had over 50 points before the battle even started. &mdash;Vendetta411 23:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

swap necro
whats that? someone who knows make a glossary/build archetype article plz. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 23:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it's a Necro used in Duncan the Black (Dungeon) to Swap the Spirits away, and possibly using SV to damage him. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 12:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is a team build for Duncan on Pvx, it's got the build for a swap necro and an explanation for it. <font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  13:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks I finally got it. BTW, if anyone does Ursan for Duncan the black, you can replace a HB monk with a sexy motiv para. Oh and btw again, my pc crashed while doing that and i still need duncan in NM. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 20:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

staffs and wands\offhand for resto rit
what would be a good weapn/wand and off hand weapon for a restoration ritulist
 * Depends on build, more info? [[Image:Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg]] + <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B> 19:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's the general catalog. Like RT said, depending on your build, the exact best fit might differ. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 20:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Minipets
I saw this: Due to the massive duping, dupers who bought rare minis with duped items were banned. Therefore, many rare minis were deleted from the game permanently; it is unknown how many minipets were deleted from the game this way. what is duping? in minipets article is an image with a minipet and his level :S how?
 * Duping refers to an exploit that was used a while ago to duplicate items; people were running around with 1750 Armbrace of Truths. The minipet with a level is just a glitch that occurs now and then; minipets actually always have levels, but they're usually hidden. Sometimes it's not is all. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 14:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Minipets are also treated as allies of the owner when it comes to Horns of the Ox, and can also be knocked down by Earthquake. I'm pretty sure they count as allies with infinite health and infinite regen and are untargettable, but it would be interesting to test how they interact with other things (like Star Burst, Healing Burst, Flame Djinn's Haste, Rejuvenation/Agony, DEFINITELY Leadership/Leader's Comfort, etc) --Gimmethegepgun 19:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Rejuvenation seems to be a no since it only heals people who are hurt. Also Preservation was a no-go and it works on people that aren't hurt. Healing Burst WAS affected though, as was Leader's Comfort. Leadership using "Charge!" was NOT affected however --Gimmethegepgun 19:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

ok, but how can I see my minipet's level? and why it is called "doll" in image?
 * repeatedly bring you minipet out and put it away. Eventually it will come out with a party size or level. (putting it away again then removes the party/level) <font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  09:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

A/D
I OWN ALL THE GUILD WARS GAMES, HOW DO I GET ASSASIN AS MY SECOND PROFESSION FOR MY DERVISH AND WHEN CAN I DO IT?
 * When you complete the Naphui Quater mission, at least the profession changer in GToB should offer it to you. I can't remember off-hand, but I think Senji ought to as well. Jamster 07:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * AS SOON AS YOU FINISH THE PRISONERS OF WAR QUEST YOU MAY SWITCH YOUR SECONDARY. DERVISH IS NIGHTFALL CHARACTER JAMSTER. I'M ON CRUISE CONTROL. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 07:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * >_< I READ THAT AS AN ASSASSIN GETTING THE DERVISH PRIMARY. WTF AM I ON!!!!!111111shift1!!? Jamster 07:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Help! My eyes AND ears hurt... -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 07:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Senji can change your Factions character to a Nightfall secondary profession as well, Felix. Also, if you finish getting "Closer to the Stars", you can simply travel to the Great Temple of Balthazar and change your secondary there from any of the Profession Changers. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  13:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Problems with either hacker or player mod if u have them
I'm having serious problems with either one or a group of players that for amusement or i dont no why keep hassling me even when they're on ignore.The main person has been inappropriate with me Ive told him im a high schoolgirl 15 yrs. old.He has talked with me on ventrilo and keeps finding me.And personal messages me as if a game god its scary.I have a little brother that plays he messes with and friends that play in school.I'm really concerned that he's a pschotic person in my life,He knows what kind of computer i have after being on ventrilo i never told him and he knows things ive said in game like to personal friends i know in real life that he shouldnt know.I know he has several accounts i have a list of atleast 7 people hes been. He tends to put raven in his name.The first name i met him on was Raven Leafarrow.I love your game and my brother really loves it please help us.An example of what he said was one time "um.....I'm inside you" i said "what do you mean ",he said " my characters inside yours"check your records we were in factions campaign.Theres others that was the first time.I told people and now he says hes going to get me and my i dont no what he means by that but im worried can he find out were i live from my ip address.He knows i live in Orlando florida.Well please help me thank you.


 * For such matters, you'd be better off at the official wiki. We dont have ANet staff on this site. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 23:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think Anet will be able to do much about this anyway. My suggestions?  Get off Ventrilo if you see him come on, keep ignoring his characters, and if you feel that you or your brother's life is threatened, don't hesitate to go the police and see if you can get a couple of them to go with you and lure him into a public place where you can have him arrested and sent to jail with all the other pervs.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ  is hosting a beauty pagent! 23:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They can ban the guy for being totally creepy and inappropriate and harassing people. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 23:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If your being harassed in game by messages set your status to offline, no number of accounts this guy has will let him talk to you then. Will get bored eventouly. btw, never reveal your age or sex online.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 23:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've also had some people threaten me ingame after revealing an exploit. 'We know who you are, we know where you live, we're gonna get you, you're in for a world of pain, you don't know who you're messing with', etc. Put every single one of them on ignore and pay no attention to them. Those are empty words, and if your computer is secure they have no way to find out where you live or that kind of stuff. If you do feel threatened check if your brother isn't giving them information, or if they have any other ways to find out who you are (social network profiles etc.). --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 11:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Moving Chars. to factions from Proh.
How do I get my main char. for proh. over to factions, one of my friends said it could be done but didn't tell me how to do it? Any help would be great, thanks.Zaroc The Evil 12:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)Zaroc


 * When you enter Lion's Arch a message should pop up that tells you to talk to Firstwatch Sergio. He'll give Mhenlo's Request, do that quest and voici, you're in Cantha! --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 12:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Unanble to open District List
Since yesterday I cant open the District List anymore while I'm in a town. It works fine on the world map, but in a town I can't open it. Does anyone have any clue how I can fix this? It's quite annoying... <font color="Green">Lยкץ๒๏ץ <font color="Blue">talk  09:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I can't open it too, but I asked around my Guild, and only 1 or 2 people also had this bug. It may fluctuate from city to city or something... someone should fire a bug report on this :/ &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 11:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

netherland
Hi, my question is ,can you make a Guildwars wiki with a dutch translation? greets Jeffrey &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.246.56.33 (talk &bull; contribs) 16:39, 2 May 2008 (CDT).
 * GuildWiki covers Guild Wars in English. If you want to start a Dutch wiki for Guild Wars yourself you can do so on Wikia. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 16:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

lost connection
Hey I keep lossing connection when i play. But my internet works fine, i don't get it.

Does anyone have an idear about what could be wrong? And how to fix it?

Thanks for the help. Splash!
 * Server lag most likely, nothing you can do really but play during less populated times.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 17:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

i keep loseing my connection also i think that its because the computer doesnt meet every requirement to play guild wars i know have eye of the north and it keeps going off then i have to repair my archive data so if someone has a asnwer for this one id love to hear it!~ nicky


 * Repairing Data Archive occurs when a file, or a selection of files are corrupt in your gw.dat file, located next to the client exe (standard for Windows: c:/Program Files/Guild Wars ). I have that every time I fire up GW, cause I need a new hard disk. If this occurs a lot and you know your hard disk is okay, try reinstalling. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 10:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See Repairing data archive (especially the talk page) <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  11:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

a cool skill
When i was doing a quest today with a group of people, I noticed that one of them had either one good skill, or many good skills. When we where fighting, he summoned up some kind of djinn, and after that a mursaat came along and helped out. I am wondering where and how i can get that skill(s)?
 * The skill is Summon Ruby Djinn, the skill page will tell you how to get it.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  17:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the Mursaat skill is Summon Mursaat. You get them by doing the Polymock quests in Eye of the North.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  17:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

A special place on the Prophecies map that I can't find!
I was wondering if you guys could help me refind a place on the Prophecies map. I found a place in the jungle, on a cliff, that had a glitch. If you walked out far enough towards the horizon, then adjusted you camera angles around your character you would look like you were standing in midair in the clouds. It was a pretty cool place to take screenshots.... Anyway, I found it by accident and can't find it again. I was wondering if it was still there! Thanks alot if you can help!

Naysuko.

Color text in wiki
How to color text in wiki (no worries I only want to use it on my user page to differ classes)? The editing guide doesn't say a word about it. --Birchwooda Treehug 09:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I use HTML tags

<font color="DarkGoldenRod">Himm <font color="Red">Taeguk  (T/C) 09:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * font tag is deprecated in html, should use styles. hi -- Xeon 10:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, it's just easier (I learn't HTML when it was HTML 4.0, no CSS, XML etc). Last time I coded an XHTML1.0 Strict site, took me all bloody day to validate the XHTML and CSS. <font color="DarkGoldenRod">Himm <font color="Red">Taeguk  (T/C) 10:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It would only take that long to make it if you didnt know how xhtml worked beforehand. Once you learn the little quirks, like not being able to put control elements directly into forms -_- (seriously annoying) its just like creating a transitional website. Im back from when tables were the norm for websites lol, hate to be blind during those days. -- Xeon 10:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Me too. Still used tables last time for the layout. I realy should start using DIV's. :D <font color="DarkGoldenRod">Himm <font color="Red">Taeguk  (T/C) 10:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

How to combine Accounts
i made a mistake by not combining my GW AND FACTIONS to my Nightfall is there a way that i can do that without buying a new game &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.48.23.234 (contribs) 16:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC).
 * Nope, sorry. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

WOW !
I CAINT COMBINE MY ACCOUNT THAT I PAYD GREAT MONEY FOR WOW! NOW THAT ANOTHER WAY YOU CAN GET SCREWED BY A GAME &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.48.23.234 (contribs) 6:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC).
 * Are you saying that you own 2 Guildwars accounts and cannot merge the two? <font color=#555>Ezekiel <font color=#AAA> [Talk]  01:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's the same person that made the post right above this. And there are multiple warnings that say you should add an access key to your existing account, and not make a new one. You payed money, whoopee do. You pay money for a lot of things, and most of the time if you break it you have to buy another one... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 01:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically, you can contact support and explain the situation; they may be able to merge the accounts for you. Don't hold your breath though. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Khamu's Trivia
I couldnt find where else to post this. im guessing not too many people care about the trivia.

I came across something interesting doing some research. The ancient Egyptians called themselves Kam or Kam-Au meaning Black people or Black God-people. I can only imagine this being left out due to racial issues and over-sensitive people but it adds more value to the character. Could it be that this was the intention? Or coincidence that he is a black man from an Egyptian like culture.

Mystic Errant (TRC)
 * That's interesting, I'd say that counted as trivia <font color="Orange">Random <font color="Black">Time  21:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

please read
ok well this problem has happened a lot for me. for some reason i keep getting attacked by creatures who are NOWHERE near me and i die. its really annoying because it happens when im farming the UW and i lose money. Can somebody please help me?
 * Lag, you don't see them coming towards you til its to late maybe?--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 20:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably just bodyblocking you cant see. Next time it happens, type /stuck and see if it fixes itself.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  20:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Some creatures have a larger-than-ours aggro range. If you're talking in the Ice Wastes (with the smites in UW), Coldfire Nights patrol in a set path around the map, and some of them have large paths. Or, you could be lagging and you think you're in a spot when you really aren't. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 20:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, sometimes if you pop a Dying Nightmare and the Nightmare is within their aggro radius, that will aggro the Coldfires. Dr ishmael 21:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

How do i..
Make a signature default here, so i don't have to copy/paste the code everytime? Thanks in advacne. Corpselooter 12:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Go to my preferences and put the signature you want in the Custom Signature bar. make sure your sig links to your userpage <font color="Green">Lยкץ๒๏ץ <font color="Blue">talk  12:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks a lot. Corpselooter 13:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Besides linking to your userpage, it should also follow the rest of the guidelines in GW:SIGN. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Joining other parties while out on a quest/mission
The other day I was doing a quest by myself. I grabbed my heros and a few henchmen and started off on my quest/mission (can't remember what it was). About half way though it all of a sudden I started getting messages from someone saying "Hey NOOB you're messing me up. I'm going for masters" .. I ignored it figuring it was some NPC talk and continued what I was doing, when he started messaging me again. He pinged me on the map and yelled at me to join him. I was then surprised to realise that there were a whole bunch of people with me besides my party. The end video scene showed him being knighted and given a title.

So what was that? Was he some sort of ally? How do you do ally quests? How did I end up with this guy and his group? What exactly is masters? How do you go for it? And if he got knighted/titled, did I get one too? Thanks. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khukri (contribs).
 * He was a rude loser, and the mission was probably Vizunah Square or Unwaking Waters, but I don't recall either of them ending that way. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 14:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * and "Masters" refers to going for the Master's Reward for a mission (completing all objectives, usually within a set time), it's explained in the manual for factions/nightfall anyway. And yes, in Vizunah Square and Unwaking Waters there are 2 parties that enter from seperate outposts--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 14:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The only mission I recall with an ending like that is D'Alessio Seaboard (not exactly knighting but a similar ceremony), but it's in Prophecies so it's got the mission/bonus rewards instead of standard/expert/master. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)