User talk:Dirael/MTG group

May I change the color of the user box? I'm more of a Blue mage. Zulu Inuoe 01:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure! Actually, that's a pretty good idea, changing it to the color your prefer. I prefer blue myself. --Shadowcrest 01:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If we're doing that then I think we need something more flamboyant than a little thin line. Zulu Inuoe 01:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Feel free to help out :P --Shadowcrest  01:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm currently procrastinating some programming homework I'm supposed to turn in today by 12:00 AM, so you understand how perfect this is! Zulu Inuoe 01:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm currently procrastinating the Algebra 2 homework I've blown off the past week or so. Slightly improved. --Shadowcrest 01:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Shadow, can I remake your Guildwikian magic card?--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]Giga †ħŕášħ 01:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course. --Shadowcrest 01:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Just keep the 13/37 part plz ;) --Shadowcrest  01:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL you ppl are very strange :P. I haven't played magic in years... Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  02:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I know how to play, but have zero strategy knowledge. I have exactly four magic cards in my possession and no friends who play, so I can't exactly play. All the same, I guess I'll join.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea Sumatae  [Talk]  23:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Mana Symbol
That alrigh? I'm sure somebody is going to complain about its fair use, but it's on the internet and extremely easily accesible, and we are making no gain at all with it. Zulu Inuoe 01:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. Hey, with your's and Giga's contributions, the box might actually look nice! ;) --Shadowcrest  01:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe you guys should use the high-res version for that picture... --Gimmethegepgun 01:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to find it...--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]Giga †ħŕášħ 01:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking of making 5 different cards, one for each color to correspond with the userbox.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]Giga †ħŕášħ 01:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That'd be pretty cool, tbh. --Shadowcrest 01:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Found em --Gimmethegepgun 01:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, I'm member of the group, but I only just found out about it! Hehe.
 * Oh, but here's a question to you all... any of you have Magic Workstation? It's a program for playing M:tG online, mostly used for decktesting. If any of you guys have it, or get it, drop me a line, I'd love to play a game with you. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  01:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * @ Giga, he (she?) doesn't have all of them uploaded. (unfortunately) --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 01:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have it yet, but I found the high res icons finally, so I'm nearly done.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Pink">Giga <font color="Black">†ħŕášħ 02:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Leet! Where are they? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 02:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Still on my comp, but the link to high res icons is --[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Pink">Giga <font color="Black">†ħŕášħ 02:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Or here --Gimmethegepgun 02:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny, I was going to start Magic Online sometime this week. I was purely a physical player and never went into Online. Zulu Inuoe 02:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't like M:tG Online purely because you've got to buy cards online, I can't afford to build up two collections like that. Workstation's not nearly as simple to use, I don't think, but hey, it's free, and the card library is every card ever printed, so I like using it. Now, if I could get rolling in M:tG Online for free, now, that's a totally different story... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  02:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh I thought you meant it was an attachment for online. Link me and I'll build up a few decks there in a day or two. Zulu Inuoe 02:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Magic Workstation
 * The free version is the Evaluation Version, only difference between it and the pay version is card images (not important), and a few solo testing options (also not important). Oh, and a "do you want to upgrade?" massage when you start it.
 * I've got my current Standard Monoblue Faerie Aggro/Control deck in there, as well as, like, five decks I possibly plan to make someday. Monoblack Faerie Rogue Beatdown anyone? --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been using Magic Workstation for about two years now. This is so pro. :D [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Drop me a line if you want a game, dude. Hey, if you've got XFire, send me a message, even better. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

There done
I will be uploading them and creating more userboxes, prepare for RC spam.--<font color="Pink">Giga <font color="Black">†ħŕášħ 02:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Felix's Deck
I guess I'll be the first one to post my actual deck. This consists of the majority of the physical cards that I still actually own; the rest, I gave to my brother. I first posted this in an unchanged MWS format, but I've changed it to the same format as the other decks posted here, for the sake of uniformity.

Crazy Blue Lock Deck
 * Lands


 * 15 [A] Island (2)
 * 4 [TSP] Terramorphic Expanse
 * 1 [UNH] Plains
 * Creatures


 * 1 [JU] Wonder
 * 2 [TSP] Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
 * 4 [VI] Man-o'-War
 * Spells

It's T1 and T1.5 legal. The point of the deck is to lock down the opponent by imprinting instants to Scepters; Orim's Chant is ideal if I have the Plains out, because a kicker cost may be paid when the card is played through Sceptre. Otherwise, I can imprint Counterspell or Boomerang which, combined with Arcane Laboratory, will provide a complete lockdown. Once I have the opponent's options locked, all I have to do is wait to draw Teferi, which will then beat my opponent to death. If Wonder's in the graveyard, so much the better. It's a fairly dependable deck, but more importantly, it's a very fun deck. 03:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 4 [MR] Isochron Scepter
 * 4 [AL] Force of Will
 * 3 [US] Arcane Laboratory
 * 4 [TE] Counterspell
 * 1 [RAV] Remand
 * 1 [MI] Enlightened Tutor
 * 1 [6E] Mystical Tutor
 * 3 [PS] Orim's Chant
 * 4 [CH] Boomerang
 * 4 [9E] Mana Leak
 * 4 [IA] Brainstorm


 * Nice... I don't have many opponents for Extended or Legacy, so nearly all of my decks are Standard-format. But I've had an old Elf deck since I started playing... currently it's an EDH deck (with Eldamri as the general), but I might remake it sometime. I have an Extended-legal one on Workstation I believe.
 * Hmm, let me post up my current Standard deck... won a few tournaments with it so far, small stack of FNM promo cards thanks to it... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I wonder if this site sounds as rediculous as that did to me to a non-GW player. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥<font color=MAGENTA>Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 03:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * To me fair, I got a little zealous in my post there and posted plenty of stuff M:tG players would need to look up.
 * Hey, maybe I should write a little glossary of terms for the group or something? Stuff like "Standard" and "Extended", and to a lesser extent, "EDH" and "FNM" and stuff like that. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  15:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I knew what you were saying, although I did have to look up Eldrami. D: I'd say go for it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 01:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well yeh, Eldamri's not a very well-known creature, not to mention how old the card is. :D
 * I'll get something up, Shadowcrest can move or remove it at his discretion. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  02:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Jio's deck
Here's my current Standard deck... I'm primarily a Green player, but hell, Blue is so much fun...

...this is actually a really strong metagame deck at the moment; I generally don't follow the metagame decks, I prefer to play rogue, but in my defense, I originally built this before it became one of the big archetypes. :D

>> Monoblue Fae Aggro/Control
 * Creatures:


 * x4 Cloud Sprite
 * x4 Spellstutter Sprite
 * x4 Pestermite
 * x4 Scion of Oona
 * x4 Vendillion Clique (don't actually have these yet)
 * x3 Mistbind Clique


 * Other Spells:


 * x4 Ponder
 * x3 Boomerang
 * x3 Faerie Trickery
 * x3 Psionic Blast


 * Lands:


 * x4 Desert
 * x1 Pendelhaven
 * x3 Faerie Conclave
 * x16 Island

It's a strong control deck in the format; Plenty of counterspells (the Spellstutter Sprites counter spells when they come into play), bounce, tap effects, and best of all, nearly every creature in the deck has Flash, so you never have to commit on your own turn. I've won so many games even when the opponent had the advantage, simply because I can throw down threats when they're tapped out, and get rid of their threats temporarily or permanently, when they least expect it. --<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It amazes me how honestly nub I am at this :P
 * Does anyone else think Rimefeather Owl is OP? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest  20:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How so? By OP you mean overpowered, right? Zulu Inuoe 22:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. While I'm asking questions (questions ftw), can someone explain mana burn to me? I read the manual but it didn't make much sense to me, I usually understand things better when people say them. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 22:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have any unspent mana at the end of your turn it burns you for 1 per mana. Hence mana burn.  Lets say I tapped Simic Growth Chamber (+G&U) and a Forest (+G), then I played Thrive (XG) and payed 1 for X.  I have one floating blue mana which I have not spent, at the end of my turn it burns me for one, and then goes away.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Pink">Giga <font color="Black">†ħŕášħ  22:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If I put down an island card, is it in my "mana pool"? Or is my mana pool empty until I tap the island? Do only lands you tap and then don't use cause mana burn? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 23:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Two matters of clarification; first, mana burn occurs after every phase, not turn. In other words, you'll take mana burn if you tap an island and then declare attackers without spending it. Since mana abilities can be activated at any time, you should never "pre-tap."


 * Second, your mana pool consists of mana generated by any card. A land card is not mana; it's land. Originally, the land cards actually said (T): Gain one mana. If you tap an Island for one blue mana, your mana pool consists of one blue mana until it's spent. If you tap two Forests and a Birds of Paradise for two green mana and one red, then your mana pool is GG R. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * In response to the Rimefeather Owl note... the Owl is really big if you get it out, yes, but it's much to expensive for most decks. By the time you get it out, your opponent has probably won, or you're already winning. Or he gets hit by a kill spell, and you lose a lot of card advantage; they just spent somewhere around two mana to kill a guy that cost you at least seven (more if you used his ability).
 * You want to see something overpowered? This guy. He doesn't seem very big, he starts off pitifully small, but currently, every deck with green in it is using this guy in Standard. The scariest cards are often ones that look harmless; gigantic cards are flashy and look really powerful, but often, the effort to play them can leave you behind. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ack! Hans, run! It's the Tarmogoyf! [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ach, you're doing it wrong!
 * ...you know what would be funny? a Tarmogoyf equipped with Skullclamp and Umezawa's Jitte, with a Tarfire and a creature in the graveyard. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I Want to learn how to play
^_^ Lost-Blue 23:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So do I, tbh :P
 * I learned the little I know from a friend IRL, and I'm extremely nub at the game in general. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 23:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Go to the official website it has a downloadable rule book somewhere.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Pink">Giga <font color="Black">†ħŕášħ  23:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not hard to learn the basics. It's not epic failing that's hard.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) Lost-Blue 23:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Blue, download the Magic Workshop, add me to some kind of messenger and I'll teach you to play via there. Zulu Inuoe 23:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How? xD Lost-Blue 23:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have MSN, AIM, or Yahoo? If so add me as this_is_total_bullshit@hotmail.com (MSN), zulu604 (AIM), or zulu607 (Yahoo). The link to Magic Workstation is now on the article page. Zulu Inuoe 23:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I do but I have to pay for the Magic Workshop :( Lost-Blue 23:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, download the "Evalutation" version. Zulu Inuoe 23:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol its not like I canh ave anyoneto play with and it costs money to buy the cards xD Vp of Stuco and PR of NJHS and got voted #1 person in 7th grade last year play anerdy game??!? yea right xD j/k j/k j/k lol im the nerdy prep guy O.o Lost-Blue 23:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ...what? Zulu Inuoe 23:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll translate. "Lol, I'll have no one to play with (probably IRL). It costs money to buy the cards (it doesn't, btw). Some people got voted #1 in the 7th grade last year, and lolz why would I play a nerdy game? Lol, jk, I'm a nerd." --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 23:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ty and it was me that got voted #1 personz out of the whole 7th grader o.o go me! :D and how does it not cost money? o.O Lost-Blue 23:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Gz on bein #1. You download the library that has most of the cards. A different system of online play requires you to buy your cards, but this one doesn't. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 23:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean play in rlf and my brother used to play Magic and he says this workshop thing has the worlds gehttoist cards xD Lost-Blue 23:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * When you download the database the cards are the same as they are in real life. Zulu Inuoe 23:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * But yes, you'd need to buy them IRL, unless you got someone to give them to you. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 23:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Or you can be a purely online player, or play Mental Magic, which I always loved. Zulu Inuoe 23:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * :::::::::::::::::: Theres no way these are real Magic Cards.... +1 to quarry... Rabid sheep.... +1 to tower.... wth did I downlaod o.o Lost-Blue 23:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Go to Here and download where it says "MTG Card Database". Zulu Inuoe 00:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * k now what and I'm working on inequalities meh :( 75+.25m less then or equal to 50+.50m? lol j/k unless you want to help adavanced classes ftl, staright A's consatnstly ftw Lost-Blue 00:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well Add me to some messenger so we don't keep spamming the page haha. Zulu Inuoe 00:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you insist Lost-Blue 00:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

(reset indent) You know, I always wondered what those goofy cards that came with the program were. They definitely aren't valid for any game I've ever played. 02:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Workstation works for the WoW TCG and a few others as well, so perhaps they're leftovers from other games. I believe you can make your own cards in there as well, perhaps those are just to, well, get you started or something? --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  03:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

possible deck
>> Faeries pwnd j00
 * Artifact:


 * Crawlspace x2
 * Meekstone x3
 * Simic Signet x4


 * Blue Creatures:


 * Cloud of Faeries x4
 * Sea Sprite x4
 * Silkwing Scout x1
 * Sprite Noble x3
 * Surveilling Sprite x1
 * Thornwind Faeries x3
 * Weatherseed Faeries x4
 * Wind Dancer x1


 * Green Creatures:


 * Faerie Noble x4
 * Fog x1
 * Magnify x2
 * Scryb Ranger x1
 * Scryb Sprites x3
 * Uktabi Faerie x1
 * Willow Priestess x4


 * Lands:


 * Simic Growth Chamber x4
 * Faerie Conclave x1
 * Novijen, Heart of Progress x2
 * Skyshroud x1


 * Possible Substitutions:


 * Wall of Ice x1..4
 * Scion of Oona x1..2
 * Gaea's Anthem x1 (if I can get ahold of one)
 * So, anything? Thoughts? Comments? Rofls at me for using faeries? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest  22:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You need more lands. You have no islands or forests.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Pink">Giga <font color="Black">†ħŕášħ  00:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Simic Signet gives GU for 1, Faerie Conclave gives 1, Novijen gives 1, Simic Growth Chamber gives GU, and Shyshroud can give 1,G, or U. Do I really need more? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 00:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not so much that you can generate mana, but you need to up your chances of actualy getting mana, especialy the color you need. You have 8 lands out of 60 cards, odds are you aren't going to have mana. Zulu Inuoe 01:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's true. Ok, I could put some in. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 01:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * An admited good standard is 1/3, so 20 lands in a 60 card deck, you should go more than that though, like 23ish. Zulu Inuoe 01:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Current standard for any control deck is at least 23, I run 24, some people run even more. Less then 23 should be for aggro decks with really low mana costs, less then 20 lands should be reserved for decks that strangely needs to not run into lands consistently.
 * Scion of Oona is a lot better then Faerie Noble, because A., you can play the Scion anytime; B., the Scion pumps up dudes all the time, instead of half the time; and C., the Scion also gives out shroud. Just a note. :D
 * Looks nice aside from that, you should really build it in Workstation and give it a test. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  05:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, with only 8 lands, your chances of getting one in your starting hand is... I just realized I lent my TI-84 to my sister, so I can't actually tell you what it is right now. Still, it's quite low. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 19:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Make that four lands. You need another land in play for the Simic Growth Chamber to be useful, otherwise it'll just bounce itself whenever you play it (due to a lack of other targets). By the time you play your first spell, a deck using nothing but Squires will have beaten you. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  21:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * TI-84 lawl u r epic nub @ math n u r s2ped. That was me, logged out for some reason. Zulu Inuoe 00:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That was uncalled for. D:
 * I didn't actually look at the lands, I just counted them. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Back to the deck. I'm going to go from the basics (land count) to some more advanced stuff.


 * Scryb Ranger is 1337. Run four.
 * Scryb Sprite is broken. Also run four.
 * Spellstutter Sprites are really powerful when you're running so many cheap Fae, so use some of those too. (four preferably.)
 * And you're already running four Cloud of Faeries. Free flying creatures sell themselves.
 * I really don't feel like going into detail on all the other ones, just getting some basics out there. You'll probably find that you don't need so many creatures; there's a ton of nice blue and green noncreature spells to dig through, Gaea's Anthem is borderline great/unneeded. But more ideas like that should fit in as well. With such an army of cheap faeries, you can build up a fleet uber-fast, and spend the rest of the game countering spells and beating face in the air... never underestimate a single counterspell. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^

Can I join
now that Zulu helped me? Lost-Blue 04:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure you can. Actually, you could have joined before; Warwick did. XD [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * lol Lost-Blue 04:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

This looks intriguing, I'm not a big player anymore, but a few years ago it was all my siblings and I did. I ROFLPWNED! at it, especially for a 10 year old. I know the gameplay rules up until the Judgement series, after that its Greek to me, I'd also like to get to know more people on GuildWiki, and some of the members seem to be quite active and well-known. Put a message on me talk page or here if that'd be ok. Matrim 23:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Can I join. Or at least use the userbox. I play MTG on the ametuer amatuer amat... level (in other words, I is teh nub). Zan 23:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyone can join (I think)[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah basically --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest  23:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've noticed that a lot of people think there's a huge difference between playing casually and playing professionally. It's still the same game; the only real difference is your knowledge of mechanics and different cards. There are people out there who have all 14,000+ cards memorized (mental magic with these people would annihilate you). [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Quick Poll!
What is the most ridiculous power in the Magic game? My vote: Super haste ''(This may attack the turn before you play it. (You may put this card into play from your hand, tapped and attacking, during your declare attackers step. If you do, you lose the game at the end of your next turn unless you pay this card’s mana cost during that turn.))'' Runners up are Denimwalk and Art Rampage.<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]


 * You forgot to sign, Entrea.
 * Anyway, if we're talking keywords and un-sets... "Protection from wordy" is my vote (Something is wordy if it has four or more lines of text in its text box.).
 * An interesting tidbit of information... Super Haste made it to the real sets (more or less), in the form of the Pacts. (Summoner's Pact, Slaughter Pact, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation, Intervention Pact.) Play them for free, pay for them a turn later. And Landwalk and Rampage are already "normal" keywords to boot. :D
 * As another note, Enter the Dungeon is an awful card to play if someone in the game next to you is busy avoiding Denimwalk. (Generally, you can stop a Denimwalking creature by simply taking off your jeans.) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Pantsless magic players... *eyes explode*--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  22:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Doh, I totally DID sign![[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  22:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Another fun one was Shoe Tree. That required players to place shoes on the card as counters. A room full of players with their shoes off isn't the best of smells.
 * ...the smart players brought extra shoes, though. :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  00:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Can I join?
Hey was wondering if i could join-imadeapuke 3:39pm fri feb 29 2008
 * Sure. On an unrelated note, you can type ~ to sign. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Found a guy at my College that plays. Zulu Inuoe 00:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Felix's Old Yugi-Oh! Deck (Why post it?) (Matrim's is at the bottom too)
Jio reminded me of my YGO tournament days on Image talk:randomtimeomnimtgcard.jpg, so I'm gonna put the deck I always used up. If no one else played YGO, then you can assume it's pro and pwn. I believe the last set I played during was Cybernetic Revolutions. This deck is probably illegal by today's banned/restricted list, but back in the day it wasn't.

'''Alart! Waryors''' Monsters (16)
 * 1x [PSV-000]  Jinzo
 * 2x [LOD-018]  Marauding Captain
 * 3x [CTI-EN003] Command Knight
 * 1x [CTI-EN002] Blade Knight
 * 1x [DBT-EN002] D. D. Assailant
 * 1x [DCR-027]  D. D. Warrior Lady
 * 1x [LOD-023]  Exiled Force
 * 1x [TLM-EN024] Mid Shield Guardna
 * 1x [SD5-EN014] Mystic Swordsman LV4
 * 1x [SOD-EN011] Mystic Swordsman LV2
 * 1x [MRD-036]  Magician of Faith
 * 1x [MRD-069]  Sangan
 * 1x [AST-017]  Legendary Jujitsu Master

Spells (18)
 * 1x [MRL-036]  Snatch Steal
 * 1x [PSV-037]  Premature Burial
 * 1x [MRL-047]  Mystical Space Typhoon
 * 1x [FET-EN040] Lightning Vortex
 * 1x [EEN-EN037] Pot of Avarice
 * 1x [DB1-EN129] Swords of Revealing Light
 * 1x [SDJ-041]  Scapegoat
 * 1x [SDP-040]  Graceful Charity
 * 2x [LOD-028]  Reinforcement of the Army
 * 1x [MRL-038]  Confiscation
 * 1x [TLM-EN038] Brain Control
 * 1x [PSV-034]  Nobleman of Crossout
 * 1x [MRD-142]  Heavy Storm
 * 1x [PGD-035]  Book of Moon
 * 1x [LOD-030]  The Warrior Returning Alive
 * 2x [IOC-093]  Smashing Ground

Traps (6)
 * 1x [MRD-138]  Mirror Force
 * 1x [LON-025]  Torrential Tribute
 * 1x [PSV-012]  Call of the Haunted
 * 1x [PSV-011]  Dust Tornado
 * 1x [IOC-103]  Compulsory Evacuation Device
 * 1x [DCR-102]  Sakuretsu Armor

Side Deck
 * 1x [CT2-EN005] Rocket Warrior
 * 1x [LON-074]  Zombyra the Dark
 * 1x [SOD-EN022] Mobius the Frost Monarch
 * 1x [EEN-EN018] Nanobreaker
 * 1x [CRV-EN041] System Down
 * 1x [MFC-092]  My Body as a Shield
 * 1x [DR1-EN038] Metamorphosis
 * 2x [SD5-EN035] Royal Decree
 * 2x [LOD-091]  Royal Oppression
 * 1x [LON-080]  Royal Command
 * 1x [PSV-030]  Ceasefire
 * 1x [FET-EN058] Deck Devastation Virus
 * 1x [EEN-EN060] Level Limit - Area A

Fusions
 * 1x [FET-EN035] Gatling Dragon
 * 1x [LOD-019]  Ryu Senshi
 * 1x [RDS-EN035] Dark Blade the Dragon Knight
 * 1x [DL1-001]  Thousand-Eyes Restrict
 * 1x [EEN-EN032] Cyber Blader
 * 1x [LOD-002]  Dark Balter the Terrible


 * Felix, if you think thats ownage, I had 5 blue eyes white dragons, all rares (Exodius, all pieces, winged dragon of ra, that red one and that other one). I'm probably gonna end up selling them on ebay =P. They're all 1st version... --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr.) 18:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, guess what. Those are all terrible cards worth about $1 each. Owell. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Orly, felix? =P. I had x2 winged and I sold one of 'em for £100~.. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr.) 18:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's really sad and unlikely. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 19:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well now, it all depends... did you have the Shonin Jump collector's BEWD? That one's still worth a bit. The regulars from the pack, not so much (and the ones from the starter decks, even less). Exodius is still worth a bit, providng you've got the original set, not the all-common reprints, or the all-common theme deck versions.
 * Some people really liked those God cards, even though you couldn't use them in actual games and they were fairly easy to come by. If it was the Japanese version, those were a little more rare I believe, but still, depends on your customer. Ra's popular, Slifer a bit more because Yugi had it, maybe... and Obelisk was cool too.
 * I still have a pile of ultra-rares and whatnot; one of my Japanese booster boxes had an Ultimate rare Horus lvl8 in it (probably the biggest Ultra rare in the set, as well). Managed to trade a bit of my collection, but still stuck with a whole bunch of useless cards... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The god cards were worth like $25 US at most when I was still playing... I doubt they're worth much more now. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm half tempted to post mine, its not a particular flavor or strategy, its just enough to annihilate my friends almost every time, plus I stopped getting cards after I realized that at the age of 13 I had already spent about $2000 dollars on cards. What do you guys think? Matrim  17:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Go for it! [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 17:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

KK here goes, now also keep in mind I stopped playing at either AST, IOC, or DCR whichever came later, I think it was the series before the cards could have levels, so I don't have any of the epic new-fangled cards some of you have. Matrim's Deck Monsters (24)
 * 1x [SDJ-022]  Penguin Soldier
 * 1x [AST-018]  Gear Golem the Moving Fortress
 * 1x [LOD-063]  Twin Headed Behemoth
 * 2x [IOC-013]  Berserk Gorilla
 * 1x [MRL-077]  Cyber Jar
 * 1x [MRD-E014] Mask of Darkness
 * 3x [MRD-071]  Kuriboh
 * 3x [LOD-042]  Troop Dragon
 * 2x [IOC-057]  Mad Dog of Darkness
 * 1x [DCR-012]  Reflect Bounder
 * 1x [AST-023]  Zaborg the Thunder Monarch
 * 3x [EP1-EN005] Peten the Dark Clown
 * 1x [LON-064]  Bazoo the Soul Eater
 * 1x [LOD-023]  Exiled Force
 * 1x [AST-000]  The End of Anubis
 * 1x [MFC-068]  Chaos Command Magician

Spells (5)
 * 1x [PSV-035]  Nobleman of Extermination
 * 2x [PSV-034]  Nobleman of Crossout
 * 1x [PSV-037]  Premature Burial
 * 1x [MRL-003]  Black Pendant

Traps (14)
 * 1x [PGD-106]  Nightmare Wheel
 * 3x [LOD-092]  Bottomless Trap Hole
 * 3x [LOD-097]  Drop Off
 * 1x [LON-047]  Jar of Greed
 * 1x [MRD-128]  Magic Jammer
 * 1x [AST-054]  Draining Shield
 * 1x [IOC-110]  Trap Jammer
 * 1x [MFC-043]  Spell Shield Type-8
 * 1x [PSV-012]  Call of the Haunted
 * 1x [DCR-102]  Sakuretsu Armor


 * Small I know, but it gets the job done... unless I get decked... which just plain sucks Matrim  17:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an illegal deck, minimum is 60 cards Zulu Inuoe 04:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Someone forgot how to play Yu-gi-oh. Minimum is 40. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  21:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

F%#k yeah
Shadowmoor's bringing back Hybrid. Look at Beseech the Queen in particular. --<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  18:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Aw, that's nuts. :o [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ..Generic mana hybrids, you're allowed to do that? Zulu Inuoe 04:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is WotC allowed to make new rules? I don't see why not. =P
 * Yes, those are the new monocolor hybrids. 2/B means you pay either two colorless or one black mana; so you can pay for that one spell with 6, 4B, 2BB, or BBB. Converted mana cost equals the highest (which is six in this case). That card is particularly good too, they revealed the effect... here's the currently revealed cards. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  21:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Join
can i join? Balistic Pve 01:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, just put your name on the page and you're in. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

How do i?
how do i make it into a picture? Balistic Pve 22:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

hide!
People still play MtG? I gave up the war of spending at about 400 cards, but a friend of mine collected more than 300000 and had a serious credit crunch for many years. On the plus side, his complete set of Mox's paid for his wedding. Beware of Crack for Gamers (tm).


 * I quit Yu-Gi-Oh due to money issues; spending thirty bucks per card was proving to be pointless. Magic, on the other hand, I spend thirty bucks per set (I buy one Fat Pack, which has six packs and a book and dice and stuff like that). Then, I simply trade up or down until I get what I want. I've built up a good number of trading cards, so that's easier for me, but still, at this point I'm barely buying packs anymore. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't spend too much on YGO, actually; I entered tournaments with borrowed cards and won stuff til I replaced them with my own. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)