Talk:Vengeful Weapon

Vengeful Weapon and Dust Trap
Goofing around in Random Arenas today with a trapper, I ran across some ritualists and noticed that Vengeful Weapon triggered off of damage from Dust Trap, stealing my health. I haven't noticed it with other traps that deal damage but I may have just missed it. - Greven 04:02, 7 June 2006 (CDT)
 * "the next time target ally takes damage from foe" - I guess Dust Trap also counts this way, because you set it. Maybe some experimentation is in order to find out what some of the "from a foe" sources counted are. Life stealing probably doesn't count, but does other indirect damage, like maybe Wastrel's Worry or Whirling Defense trigger it too? [[Image:UserImage Aubray1741 ClassicIcon.gif]] Aubray1741 08:54, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Not sure about Wastrel's Worry, but skills that are not directly targeted at you, but hit you due to AoE or whatever obviously do trigger Vengeful Weapon's life stealing, however, when I was using it in Abaddon's Mouth with my W/Rt, I found that damage done to me by Whirling Defence did not trigger Vengeful Weapon. My guess is that it's because AoE damage from WD is caused by your allies' projectiles and not by the enemy actively doing something to cause the damage (i.e. a skill or attack). --Hyperion` 22:30, 26 November 2006 (CST)

Attribute level 19 & 20
How, exactly, is this being reached or was this just calculated? - Greven 15:42, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
 * From the history: Koyashi changed the whole progression and at the same time added levels 18-20. I suppose someone should check in game. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 08:59, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

Illusionary Weapon & This
Tonite, I was repeatedly applying Vengeful Weapon in a game, and noticing my party members health still decreasing in chunks indicitive of direct, non-degen dmg. After awhile (due to myself being attacked), I realized that it appeared IWdmg was not triggering Vengeful Weapon.

Has any1 experienced a similar thing?


 * "Attacks while enchanted with Illusionary Weaponry will not trigger any bonuses or penalties that normally trigger On Hit or On Miss. For warriors, this also means that attacking will not yield any adrenaline gain." Take a look at the IW page. Xeon 04:22, 9 October 2006 (CDT)


 * But this doesn't trigger on Hit or Miss, it triggers on damage - something IW *is* guilty of generating. I'd presume IW's code to prevent 'on hit' and 'on miss' triggers changes it from damage to life loss at the same time.--LoneWolf 20:07, 19 December 2006 (CST)

Trainers
Michiko's page says she teaches Vengeful Weapon, but this page says it can only be bought from Zenaida, which page is correct? -- Gordon Ecker 21:58, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Our Factions trainer info for everything is crap. Dunno.  --Fyren 22:46, 19 October 2006 (CDT)