GuildWiki talk:Welcome to Curse

=Bugs etc.=

Transfer to Curse code broke galleries?
(copied from Talk:Tormented items/Gallery)

Not sure if anyone's noticed/is working on this, figured I'd point it out if not. All galleries have this 'Extension DPL (warning): current configuration allows execution of DPL code from protected pages only.' error now. Ethigenetic 11:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I've copied this to GuildWiki talk:Welcome to Curse; we're aware of this. --◄mendel► 11:22, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I tried looking at the armor section on this Wiki, and for some reason I cannot see it. It says "'Extension DPL (warning): current configuration allows execution of DPL code from protected pages only.' " Any help on this would be appreciated. TheSeer99 02:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Which pages exactly did you encounter problems on? Individual armor galleries seem to work for me. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's the profession indexes, e.g. Warrior armor. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 02:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah I can't see the Index's for any of the professions. TheSeer99 02:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

DPL Cleanup
I have looked at (and fixed) all DPL tags that were on pages in main and Talk: directly; I haven't looked at User: space, and most importantly, there are some templates that use them that probably need to have some pages they're applied to protected. Thanks to those who came before me, protecting some pages and most armor galleries. --◄mendel► 10:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

interlanguage, tabber
de http://www.guildwiki.de/wiki/$1 fr http://www.gwiki.fr/wiki/$1 es http://www.guildwiki.es/wiki/$1 --◄mendel► 01:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like some interlanguage links, please; these need to be configured in the database. See http://www.guildwiki.de/wiki/GuildWiki:Guild_Wars-Wikis for likely candidates; de, fr and es are a must.
 * tabber throws a warning (see my userpage): Function split is deprecated in tabber.php on line 45


 * Fix them yourself. :P &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 15:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Done, thank you. There are a lot of Interwiki links in the database linking to wikia sites that ought to be removed (can't find anyuseful links in all the static), but letters a nd b alone were 68 deletions - any chance we'll get some databse access soon so we can just delete the lines in that table with a tool that doesn't make this a pain? --◄mendel► 11:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Please pester Bryan about that. I've been trying to, but he keeps ignoring it.  We desperately need shell/database access.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Is the problem that he doesn't think we should have shell access, or that he doesn't know Donovan promised it to us? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png|link=User:Felix Omni]] 14:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Nicholas Sandford
Nicholas Sandford's table of trophies collected and the Zaishen Mission Schedule table are both screwed up for me. The Zaishen table says Error: invalid time. Nicholas's table says the same thing as well as Expression error: Unexpected < operator. Those two pages are the two things I tend to check the most often so its a bummer that they're not working yet. I'm not too worried about encountering a couple of problems on Day 1 of the relaunch though-- I just hate having to look at anything on Wikia what with how hideous it is over there. Zqrahll 22:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * That's due to a default setting in the StringFunctions extension. It's too small for what the templates in that table need to do.  I've passed this on to Bryan, should be fixed shortly.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 22:46, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's fixed. --◄mendel► 10:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Guide Categories
The guides category list seems rather blank... Category:Guides   Yamagawa 07:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not "blank" for me. 12 subcategories, 15 pages.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I have 0 guides in the sub-categories. Yamagawa 15:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to the numbers in parentheses next to each subcat? Those list how many sub-subcats are in each subcat, not how many pages are in each subcat. Category:Build archetypes, for example, has 37 pages.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 16:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This may be a chair-keyboard interface problem.... when I click on the + next to the category names, I generally get a single line of text 'There are no sub-categories'. What I was expecting was the list of articles to show.  Ah well, I can try the blue-links to the main category page. Yamagawa 16:16, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Categorytree can be configured to do that, and category pages possibly can, too; but as it is now, they work the same as over on w:c:guildwars:Category:Guides -- except that the new feature of automatically displaying images for the "top" categories has gone live, illustrating how Wikia "innovation" is bad for you unless you adapt and add an image to each guide. --◄mendel► 16:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to be especially fair, but I think that innovation is actually a good thing. It lets users associate an image with a topic, which happens all over in the game currently.  (In fact, I recall some complaints from the PvP crowd for one of the April Fool's pranks that made it impossible to associate a character's appearance with their profession).  I do like how it tracked on the Albino Rat for the pet guide.  I'm sure people will now opt out of using ranger pets (and rangers altogether).  Yamagawa 17:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Html tags
While looking at Talk:Rodgort's Invocation, I found that User:Cheese Slaya's signature leaves the rest of the page orange because the does not work correctly. It seems to do this on every page that has his signature. It doesn't do this for Wikia so it must be something about the new site. I haven't found any other examples of this, but it could be a nuisance. Segick 20:38, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * We've seen this with a couple userboxes, too. It's due to an update to the core MW parser, where it would previously "fix" incorrectly-nested or unclosed tags, but now it doesn't (forcing editors to be more careful in their HTML coding, which is a very good thing).  Unfortunately, with the API currently borked (see my talk page), we can't simply run a bot to fix this right now.  Hopefully we'll get the API fixed on Monday.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 20:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki transclusion
... is disabled. See User:Randomtime. While not absolutely necessary, we do have 17 user (talk)pages that transclude a template from Wikia Central (mostly Wikia staff, plus RT and Balistic ). Should we ask Curse to re-enable this, or can we get by without it? &mdash;Dr Ishmael 23:15, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we ought to get by without it. We could ask the active editors whom it concerns (i.e. RT) to edit their pages, and change the interwiki links to see ... as maintenance edits to fix those broken transclusions. --◄mendel► 03:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

galleries
On Wikia, &lt;gallery&gt; tags could use the image names without the File: or Image: prefix; it is needed here. If you see any broken galleries, just add File: before each image name to get them working again. --◄mendel► 09:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

createbox
The createbox on Forum:Index is broken, despite specifying. ;) --◄mendel► 09:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Shout Skills Icons
All shout skills whose name has quotes in them lack icons. I suppose it's a migration error that renamed all of them because of the quotes, or similar problem. Sotaknuck 17:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Welcome_to_Curse &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 17:05, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

" skill icons
Missing icon on Monster skill and listed icon that should not be there (and isn't) at Category:Fansite_kit_image_license/no_icons. --◄mendel► 10:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It'll be fixed whenever Bryan installs my extension. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:59, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Missing Template
Looking at the foci gallery, I see a missing template: Template:OffhandInfo.gallery I can try my hand at adding such a critter, but when I do it warns me the page was previously deleted. "unused, over a year old, please check for subst: use and/or whether a replacement exists" Thus, was the unused template in use, or was the used template replaced and this reference missed? Yamagawa 16:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Restored. Mendel tagged it for deletion, saying it was unused, but obviously it isn't.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 17:39, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There should probably be an note about templates used for DPL. I'm unsure whether these galleries are complete; I seem to remember from when I tried to do them that some of those items still used the split iteminfo templates at the time. --◄mendel► 05:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

=Questions and discussion=

Merge requests
Hey could you merge my old account (User:Balistic Pve) with this one? Thanks!Balistic 23:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Could you merge my old account (User:GW-Screams) with this one? Thanks! - Screams 00:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, can you please merge my old account (User:GW-Starkers) with this shiny "without the silly bit added on the front" one? Cheers! Starkers 18:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * All done, but Balistic, I kind of accidentally deleted your old account, so you might want to re-register Balistic Pve to use as a shoepuppet. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 19:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, I've registered it just in case.– User Balistic Pve sig.pngalistic 23:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It would seem as though merging does not include user rights, could I please have my rollback rights restored? Please and thank you.– User Balistic Pve sig.pngalistic 03:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Rollback doesn't exist just yet on GuildWiki. We're working on that. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, noticed afterwards, its no problem.– User Balistic Pve sig.pngalistic 03:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Dunno what problems my intermediary edits to either set of userpage will cause, but merging User:Renian into User:Fezi would be neat. Thanks in advance. — ızǝℲ 05:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Could you merge my old account (User:GW-Raptor) with this one? Thanks! Raptor 19:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Maybe we should set up a GuildWiki: page for usermerge like at GWW. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what your talkpage is for. And a note on GW:AI. --◄mendel► 23:02, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, very well. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Guys, could I please get User:Dark.Morelia merged into this account? (Dark Morelia with a space instead of a dot) &rarr;  Dark Morelia  11:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png|link=User:Felix Omni]] 14:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers! :) &rarr; [[Image:Dark.Morelia.sig.jpg|link=User_talk:Dark Morelia]] Dark Morelia  23:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Please merge User:RoseOfKali into User:Rose Of Kali. I can has spaces! Thanks. Rose Of Kali 17:18, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * With pleasure. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png|link=User:Felix Omni]] 21:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Kudos
Kudos to everyone involved in the migration, and thanks for writing up the account migration instructions on this project page. They worked flawlessly. Looking forward to participating and editing in the new guildwiki.org. Shadowlance 00:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, very nice job setting up the new website guys.– User Balistic Pve sig.pngalistic 00:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

To Do

 * widget for RSS feed from guildwars.com (see GuildWars.com_news) ; put back into sidebar when working
 * Widget:Feed is installed and working. Needs some CSS lovin'.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 04:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! CSS love has been applied. --◄mendel► 07:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

--◄mendel► 01:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC) & 16:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * (widgets for shoutbox and webnumbr)
 * find pages with dpl tags and semi-protect them (confirmed users only)
 * convert Recent discussions to DPL


 * get rollbackers to have move image again.– User Balistic Pve sig.pngalistic 00:31, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Bcrats should be able to assign that right to the group, I think. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 01:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No, user group rights are set server-side (when do we get ftp access?). Unless we have an extension I'm not aware of. --◄mendel► 05:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, with the dpl protected pages thing, part of Template:delete is now useless.– User Balistic Pve sig.pngalistic 03:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone still using Recent discussions? There's so much DPL on it that the server times out trying to save the page with it all enabled. --◄mendel► 10:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I didn't even know it existed. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:59, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Subpage
Subpages are turned off in the Main namespace - makes reading the ZB links from the Quick Access page hard (amongst other stuff). Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 11:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I told Bryan about this last night, seems he never got around to fixing it. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 15:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Subpages have been enabled for Main, Template, Mediawiki, and Guildwiki namespaces. They were enabled by default for User, as well as most talk namespaces.  Forum will be added shortly.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 18:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Why leave any naemspace out? We have some categories with subpages, namely, the template subcats. --◄mendel► 05:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh home
I missed guild wiki this way :> But I'm maybe a dummy and I can't migrate myself. (Powersurge360 from the gwiki) Does capitalization count? 74.241.61.188 19:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Disregard that. Indeed I was a dummy. Powersurge360 19:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Fatal Userspace Error
Well, I seem to have migrated my account, but whenever I try to go to my userspace, I get "Fatal error: Call to a member function getNamespace on a non-object in /home/guildwiki/public_html/extensions/WinFilenameFix.php on line 36". Is this a common problem for recent migrations? If not, how do I fix it? Entrea   [Talk]  22:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Ugh, that's my extension. I don't know why it's doing that, but I'll check it out.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 22:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. Incidentally, it's also doing it to my shoepuppet account (User:Entrea), and our talk spaces too.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  22:44, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, seems to be fixed now. Thanks! Still a few kinks to work out. One of my userboxes seems to have decided to die, and the poll extension is missing, but that can wait, and may indeed get fixed on it's own. Crisis averted.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  23:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The poll extension is not likely to come back, but we have widgets now. If you can recommend a good website for polls that could be iframe'd, I'm sure we could make a widget for that. If you point me to the userbox, I'll have a look; afaik we still have a problem with some string functions, but it could be something else. (Or it's a change in the wiki parser that got you.) --◄mendel► 23:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's the same box that got Isk8. Middle one, last row, Weakness icon.  Needs a &lt;/font> tag.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 23:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I found the bug. You have a link that points to  .  I wasn't decoding URL entities before passing the link text to the parser to generate a title object, which caused the parser to return undef.  Added a simple urldecode($linktext), and it works on my local wiki now.  I'll had it off to Bryan on Monday.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 04:58, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Ishy's todo
For reference: Me -> Bryan on Monday.


 * 1) Why is FTP borked?
 * 2) Why is API borked?
 * 3) Why is Special:MultipleUpload borked?
 * 4) Hand off updated filename-fixer extension
 * 5) Hand off new UserSigProtect extension
 * 6) Ensure they are working on group rights (should mirror Wikia)
 * 7) Add Category namespace to subpages array

&mdash;Dr Ishmael 05:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * API is mostly fixed. action=edit requests to the API work, but AWB still can't generate most lists other than Category.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 03:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

PvX
The PvX: namespace creates URL's to non-existant pages. There is a /Wiki/ in the URL that should not be there. Example Main Page. I can't recall where this is set and if non-admins can edit it. Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 15:24, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed. (Special:Interwiki)  But apparently it will take a while for it to propagate, I can't force your link to update at all.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 15:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Me niether. I noticed it on Nick's Page. Thanks anyhow Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 15:40, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like it's finally propagated. I'll re-re-re-revert the link on Nick's page to use the interwiki, like it should. Never mind.  You're a sneaky ninja. :P  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 20:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * :p Aye Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 20:46, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

deleterevision
On Wikia, only bureaucrats had the 'deleterevision' permission. However, sysops could achieve the same effect, albeit with a lot more work, by first deleting a page, then restoring all but the non-desired revision. This also had the disadvantage of leaving no visible trace in the article's history; with the revision delete function, a placeholder for the deleted revision is still shown in the history list.

It seems like it would make sense to grant this permission to sysops as well, since all it would do is simplify something we can already do anyway. (If we've already had this conversation and I forgot, sorry, there's been a lot of stuff happening.) &mdash;Dr Ishmael  20:05, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete revision on GWW is given to all the sysops, and it is handy, except for when you need to delete multiple revisions (at that point, the delete page, restore good revisions seems faster). Not that I'm saying we copy GWW, but that's my experience. --JonTheMon 20:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Asked for this yesterday on IRC - no objections seemed to be raised there. Strong support 88.108.106.123 21:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither is used very often, so whether sysops have it or not is of little practical consequence. I understood deleterevision to be a way to hide personal information even from past and future sysops, and as such there is some minor merit to not extend it to them. Or do I misunderstand what the right actually does?
 * Also, I don't have the RC links for it that I have on wikia, and tells me You have either not specified a target revision(s) to perform this function, the specified revision does not exist, or you are attempting to hide the current revision, so it seems to not actually be working right now, or I don't have the rights for it. --◄mendel► 23:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I understood it as a way to completely hide objectionable material from the public. Like yesterday, when a link that (purportedly) led to pornography was posted to the admin noticeboard, and RT deleted the page, then restored all but that one revision.  That could have been simplified if he had the deleterevision permission.  There is an additional permission 'suppressrevision' that can hide revisions even from users with deleterevision.  The recommended settings at mw:Manual:RevisionDelete give deleterevision to sysops, and suppressrevision to a special suppress group.
 * RC and error message: That's because the permission has not been granted to anyone yet. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 23:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I say give deleterevision to all sysops and give suppressrevision to me bureaucrats. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png|link=User:Felix Omni]] 23:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. --◄mendel► 00:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * What happened to hide revision?--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Ho ho ho!]]<font color="Red">îğá <font color="Green">†ħŕášħ 00:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It was bureaucrats only on Wikia and apparently we didn't carry it over. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png|link=User:Felix Omni]] 00:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It's the same thing. Wikia is still using the original extension-based implementation, but it's been incorporated into the core Mediawiki code as of version 1.16.  The permission was renamed from 'hiderevision' to 'deleterevision', but it's the same functionality.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 01:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Bryan has enabled deleterevision for sysops. I have asked him to add suppressrevision for crats.
 * Also, most of our groups and permissions are finally set up. Check Special:ListGroupRights to see if anything should be changed.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 17:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Spotted one thing - Autoconfirmed currently have suppressrevision. If we don't want even rollbackers to have it because "it's a form of deletion," then we'd better remove it from autoconfirmed.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 18:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC)