Talk:Vanquisher

Awesome, sounds like a sweet title! Sirocco 13:32, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

Is there a reference for this, or just pure speculation?
 * This page mentions it. BigAstro 14:06, 19 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Yes! Finally, a true PvE player's dream title. There is no way that you can just use a gimmick build or get run through for this title. Gotta clear out ENTIRE, HUGE areas like - Sorrow's Furnace, Icedome, The Undercity, Snake Dance, Turai's Procession, Prophet's Path...etc etc. Heheh, I can't wait for it. I'm looking forward to "winning" clearage of Old Ascalon against L24 Devourers and stuff! [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:00, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

Oh yes, this will be fun... Muahahaha! -Samurai-JM - 22:04, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

LOVE the 60dp-and-you're-done aspect. Dreadnought's Drift anyone? :) Vanessa 23:47, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

Old Ascalon is WAY off. I am currently at 251 kills and it has not been "cleared".

i think that this page should be sorted out the way the collectors are--Kyro27 01:24, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

OLd ascalon
I just did old ascalon and had 248 enemys vanquished yet the page says 219.
 * Unless this is not apparent to anyone before, the spawns for explorable areas and mission vary somewhat from instance to instance in Tyria. Until much more data is collected on the number of spawns, numbers for clearing those areas will only be ballpark estimates. Waveclaw 00:53, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, I just cleared Old Ascalon with 261. Given the fact that the numbers are so variable, I'm not sure they have any value or should be posted. I'd actually recommend removing them. XP-Cagey 01:07, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * They're definitely variable depending on your spawn. I got 196 kills for Plains of Jarin.  &mdash; [[Image:Fin_sig.gif|User:Kyrasantae]] kyrasantae   01:39, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

I am currently @ 225 vanquished and not yet complete. Finally @ 241(including 5 pets killed).
 * 230 and counting. WTF... a PAIN to find all the pop up mob's. How to you know when you have cleared the area? Does something show up on screen, like when you unlock a mod/rune/skill? EDIT: Nevermind... I see from here that the area name on the world map turns orange.    [[Image:jkr.jpg]]     02:22, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * The counter in your upkeep area will also turn gold, and the "mission completion" fanfare will play. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] (talk|contribs) 02:29, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * If you check the Old Ascalon page I posted that I had 267 and another guy had 270. Gandorf 03:10, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Pet creatures in Prophecies title
The Page doesn't state that pet creatures need to be killed for the title in Tyria, yet I have cleared areas in Tyria of all but pets and still am not done. Pets also count toward the kill count in Tyria. Gamer6432 01:00, 20 April 2007 (CDT) Gamer6432
 * I didn't have to kill any flamingos in Plains of Jarin to 'vanquish' the zone, so uncharmed animals are exempt it seems, unless they become hostile. &mdash; [[Image:Fin_sig.gif|User:Kyrasantae]] kyrasantae   01:40, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I just cleared Sunqua Vale with a total of 137 foes vanquished, where the article currently notes 140, so spawns are obviously variable in Cantha as well. A couple more notes:
 * I watched two Naga Welps kill a Sensali Fighter, and that added a point to the counter, so any enemy that dies counts whether you kill it or not.
 * I killed a single tiger, and the counter updated, but there were others I left alive. Apparently you do not need to kill all tamable animals in an area, but they will add into the gold and experience you receive when you complete it.
 * &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] (talk|contribs) 02:27, 20 April 2007 (CDT)


 * I completed Sunqua Vale as well and did not kill one Tiger. The count did increase randomly as foes died to other creatures somewhere on the map. I had a kill count of 142. --Unzinc 03:59, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Cantha
01:36, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Ferndale: Kills fot Title Point Needed: 322. I can provide screen later if needed. Sword.wind. 01:37, 20 April 2007 (CDT)


 * 142 Kills in Sunqua Vale to complete the area --Unzinc 03:55, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Elona
Plains of Jarin is listed as 211 foes, but I vanquished it and there were 201 enemies, can provide a screen if needed --Colonel Popcorn 02:41, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Zen Daijun
Went there, had buckets and buckets of foes. not 0.
 * Char not from Cantha? Speaking of which, anyone up for hard mode The Captured Son?  lol  Queen Schmuck 03:28, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Possibility
is it possible that the counter only recognizes the visible enemies when you load into a map? can anyone confirm/deny? Whitehike 04:02, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Nope. Popups count too. --[[Image:lazyeyes.png]]Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 04:06, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Popups do not count towards vanquisher! I have screen shots of me killing foes right after getting the vanquisher. Jogden 04:26, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * They definately do count. If they didn't I wouldn't have vanquished Old Ascalon. --Kale Ironfist 04:34, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * It could be possible that it just counts the number of active 'red' targets on the map. I went through Old Ascalon and I killed all the Moa Birds I saw, adding like 15 points. ~  Gold [[Image:DeanIcon.png]] Dean   - 04:39, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Maybe they count only if they pop out? - &mdash; Abedeus   04:57, 20 April 2007 (CDT)


 * I just tested this out in Shadow's Passage (Probably the smallest zone possible to Vanquish), and we had the Area Cleared message appear when there were still visible enemies on the radar. I think that pop-up monsters aren't counted towards the total needed when clearing a zone but do count towards reaching that original number when you kill them, thus explaining how you can finish with enemies left walking around. -Gildan Bladeborn 05:02, 20 April 2007 (CDT)


 * The only way to make sure would be to keep manual count of revealed enemies and popups separately and comparing against the "maximum" claimed by the "vanquishing icon". If the visible enemy count matches the maximum, your theory would be confirmed. --[[Image:lazyeyes.png]]Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 05:06, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I killed a -lot- of popups in Plains of Jarin. I couldn't get the vanquished until one last visible enemy died, and I searched for that one guy for quite awhile.  If killing all the extra Mandragor counted toward the normal amount of non-popup critters, I should have had 1/4 of the map left to kill when I got vanquished.  Some popups may always count (like ground up pops) while some may not always count (like Am Fah top down pops).  For now no one knows for sure.  Queen Schmuck 05:21, 20 April 2007 (CDT)