Talk:Strength of Honor (PvP)

Smiter's Boon'd. --Jaigoda 02:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow... unless someone has like a 200% IAS, this skill ain't worth the gunpowder to blow it up anymore, na? Qing Guang 03:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Why did it have to be nerfed into oblivion? And most skills that get hammered like this are smiting aswell.. expect RoJ to go next month ._. TrinityX 06:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Because it was sickening to see everything deal an unconditional armor ignoring +12 damage with every. Damn. Melee attack. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thank god for this change. Was completely needed. 68.112.253.41 13:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * But why nerf this into total uselessness? Particularly, why nerf this & literally not touch the Conjures?  I realize this has more utility in that it can be maintained on multiple ppl by a 3rd party, among other benefits, but no one will use this anymore now, period.... - [[Image:Ins420sig.png]] 420  21:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

tbh I would have preferred them just tag a "X more damage while wielding a physical weapon" on the skill. Make it no longer stack with judge's or conjures, but at least it would be usable in its own right...
 * Terrible, terrible idea. Rangerspike would come back better than ever.  @ 420: The nature of the skill is either completely useless or overpowered.  Additional armor-ignoring damage stapled to a warrior can't be balanced, imo. The Conjures are balanced because (IIRC) they don't ignore armor, they require you to ditch your sundering/vampiric/zealous mods to gain the additional damage, they require 10 energy (which is a relatively large investment for a warrior), and have to be brought on the warrior's bar--which is bothersome not only for the loss of a skill slot, but the warrior has to stop moving (and thus attacking & pressuring) for 1.75 seconds. 68.112.253.41 12:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The conjures are armor ignoring. And when combined with the right skill(s), you could still keep your vamp/zealous.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 12:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Conjures have triple recharge. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  14:21, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And require the attribute investment on whomever is using them. @ Nazgir:  If by "the right skills" you mean Greater Conflagration and/or Winter, they're not reliable for PvP at all.  (Plus, what ranger wastes his elite on Greater Conflagration?) 68.112.253.41 20:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Or Kindle Arrows with Conjure Flame. But ofcourse, as already said, attr investment would go boom then.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 14:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

nerfed BIG TIME
OMG..there goes my smite monk!
 * Roj is the next nerf --BioSpark 15:26, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * They won't nerf Ray. They'll just force every smite monk to use it or nothing. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 15:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

roj, they'll make it 25 energy
like smiters boon and confirm that htey think smiting is the worst attribute 15:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean confirm they think smiting is the BEST attribute. Or else why would they keep nerfing it? [[Image:ShidoSig_moebius2.gif]] 16:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)