Talk:Game updates/Archive9

Whats this for
The page has this listed. Skills listed here use a 0...15 attribute level progression. GuildWiki uses a 0...12 attribute level progression when displaying skill information. Which has nothing to do with this article.--67.67.161.12 01:14, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
 * It is there because whenever a skill change is in a recent update, it lists the skill variance between 0 and 15 attribute points. This is confusing to most random visitors because the common and wiki method for variation on values in skills is on a 0 to 12 level.  This note may not have much purpose on every single update, but it definitely has merit on those updates which include skill updates. — RabiesTurtle (contribs) 01:23, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, we use 0...12 because that's the range used for the Skill Monitor tooltip. -- Gordon Ecker 01:56, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
 * It is in the wrong place. Someone needs to move it to a side panel - the top of the page should be the latest update, not some pedantic detail like this--Alexrob 14:10, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Uhh... all it does is make it so you have to look half an inch farther down the page. It also helps prevent bad edits to wiki because people think the listing is 0...12 and so go change page values to that instead of the actual value --Gimmethegepgun 14:14, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

June 1 Update

 * Updated some creatures so that they no longer have two elite skills in Hard Mode.

Which monsters and which skills? This is super-vague and I'd like for our notes to reflect on what they actually changed. -- JadeWarrior 22:47, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Agreed, but due to the rather sparse notations on which monsters had which skills in Hard Mode before the change (and even still after it), we may never know. --Valentein 23:07, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Southern Shiverpeak Grawl had "Victory is Mine!" and Battle Rage IIRC. --Kale Ironfist 23:23, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

June 1st Stealth Update?
I noticed that since the June 1st update, bow names that aren't specifically listed as their type now have a added little info bit after the "Two-handed" line, Image. L u i g i   (T/C) 10:29, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
 * It was in the May 24 update.&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  10:36, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Okay, thanks. Illiteracy for the lose. L u i g i   [[Image:Luigi shodansig.jpg]] (T/C) 11:10, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Archived the page
I just archived the page since it was way too long. For some reason though the TOC is gone even though I didn't remove anything but the sections and didn't add anything new. If someone sees what I am overlooking, please fix it. — RabiesTurtle (contribs) 12:04, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
 * And apparently it just took me adding a new comment. Nvm — RabiesTurtle (contribs) 12:04, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
 * ToC is automatically added once a page has 4 sections. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   17:09, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah, that would explain it. Thanks for the info.  I figured it was always there no matter how many sections. — RabiesTurtle (contribs) 22:06, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Return of Underworld Chests?
I've been down to the underworld a few times this week and have actually been using more keys than I've been getting as drops (I was up to 28 in my inventory until this weekend). Could this be the return of the oft-elusive Phantom Chests that used to stand proud in each area, but have since disappeared or magically spawn at the completion of a quest? (and no, I don't mean "Chests" spawning, I mean actual Phantom Chests spawning when quests complete, typically in Ice Wastes for example) Maybe its to offset the insanely low ecto price >.< -SuperStretch 11:42, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Chest spawn after completing quests and killing groups of monsters. What's so strange in that? &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 16:03, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
 * He is trying to say that he thinks that the chests have possibly returned back to the old system - atleast partially. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 16:35, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

Dye drop weekend?
No mention of the triple dye drop weekend? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.97.25.93 (contribs).


 * No, because the weekend events are not considered "updates". If an update(ie, a file download) is released pertaining to the weekend event, it will be noted with the update listings, otherwise they don't go here. DKS01 11:44, 14 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I kinda meant anywhere in the wiki. I just wasn't sure where to ask. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.97.25.93 (contribs).


 * Good point, actually. There is the updates page, there is the (somewhat neglected?) news page but the in-game announcements (that may not be published in those pages) may go unreported in the wiki. Hmm. --[[Image:lazyeyes.png]]Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 16:55, 14 June 2007 (CDT)


 * We don't document "Weekends". We only document actual events, such as the Dragon Festival. And remember to sign your comments on talk pages using 4 tildes . &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 17:04, 14 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Why document events then. Once it is past it isn't really news worthy either.


 * Yeah, that's established, and what's there to document about a weekend anyway? However, we could have a single page where we track the in-game announcements, could we not? I guess that's what 71.97.25.93 tried to ask. --[[Image:lazyeyes.png]]Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 17:10, 14 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Why have a wiki for the game at all. What is wrong with being complete about things happening in the game?


 * perhaps some type of rolling Weekend event schedule page which contains any information on weekend style events whenever we hear of them and one or two weeks past? be a good addition to the main page. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 18:27, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
 * More importantly, does anyone have a list of (almost) all past events? No sense starting from the middle, really. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 18:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
 * It wouldn't have to be a complete archive of all the game announcements evar, at all. In fact, it would be useful if it just mirrored the login screen text continuously. You know, just as a convenience or heads-up for those people who are currently bored with the game (so don't launch it) but keep monitoring the wiki in case anything cool happens, see? --[[Image:lazyeyes.png]]Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 19:05, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I was thinking of creating a sample announcement page in my user space to illustrate this, but what do you know, the login screen article already had a red link to this : Announcements. Whaddayathink, y'all? --[[Image:lazyeyes.png]]Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 19:24, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Currently at Guild Wars login announcements. --Fyren 06:41, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

June 16 h00.25 CET
They have uploaded the skill-balance. i dont know about anything else as i just do pvp. --82.55.172.36 18:15, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Stoneflesh and SR are as in the dev update thingy 86.148.221.149 18:26, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Soul Reaping does give you energy, even if you are at full energy when something dies, but I don't know yet if it counts as one of the three times... since they said it would not.
 * Confirmed. Decapitate is a half-second cast, many Mesmer interrupt spells (the main ones, Power Spike, Leak, and Drain, and maybe a couple others) affect Chants, and Beguiling Haze has longer Daze.  GD  18:35, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * How do you know? Falafel 18:36, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

Whenever I change my secondary class, all of my skills are wiped from my skill bar (primaries as well as secondaries). I've confirmed this with a few guildmates. Anyone else experiencing this? - Oser 18:37, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Me and guildmates too MetaleX 19:36, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

New NPC's
Anyone noticed the new NPCs in capital cities? Like the Minister of Maintenance? He doesn't do anything ATM...24.148.188.18 19:03, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Preparation for Chapter 4 perhaps? I know its a bit early, but if earthquakes are supposed to roll across all the major cities, surely a Minister of Maintenance would be someone involved, and perhaps able to give a quest sending one into the disaster zone... -Damasus 19:45, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

New Bug
If you change yor secondary profession you lost your build, at least this happened us in Hidden city in elona. --Crigore 19:50, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

Armor Stacking nerf
Why was this done? Does it mean you can't combine Dolyak Signet, Watch Yourself and Shields Up anymore? Then my The Deep Steelwall tank-build for W/A is much less effective -.- *grrrr* Why are they always ruining my PvE fun? They nerfed the necro more again ffs. --Birchwooda Treehug 20:01, 15 June 2007 (CDT)