Talk:Lightbringer rank

/Archive 1 = Research =

Me

 * Energy Burn

E

 * Shatter Stone - initial damage
 * Shatter Stone - when the hex ends

A

 * Death Blossom - damage on adjacent foes tested. Initial damage status unknown.

None

 * Vial of Purified Water - the undocumented 50 armor-ignoring damage

Me

 * Backfire
 * Empathy
 * Fragility
 * Wastrel's Worry
 * Illusionary Weaponry

Possible patterns and rebuttal

 * 1) by damage type?
 * 2) * The mesmer skills are all untyped damage, with differing behavior
 * 3) damages done by hexes don't count?
 * 4) * Shatter Stone's second damage is a hex damage, but is increased by Lightbringer rank
 * 5) Direct damage from hexes/enchants counts, but indirect damage or damage that is triggered in some way does not.
 * 6) * Damage from Shatter Stone (initial), Energy Burn, VoPW is dealt directly at time of casting, thus it is increased.
 * 7) * Damage from Backfire, Empathy, Fragility is indirectly triggered by a specific event, thus it is not increased.
 * 8) * Wastrel's Worry is different from Shatter Stone (secondary) in that SS says "when Shatter Stone ends", regardless of whether it is removed prematurely, while WW says "after 3 seconds" because it does not deal damage if removed prematurely.

= Discussion =

If you have the 5th rank in the lightbringer title would a 55 hp monk only need to use prot spirit when fighting abbadons servants?
 * Interesting... I have no idea and is not even close to testing.. --Soulflame 18:33, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

cap?
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is there a level cap (like castellan) for which the whisper informants will stop givining you points?

nope

Minion Question
I get the LB bonus as do my heros but would minions summoned by myself or my hero get the bonus? In short will minions do extra damage as a result of LB at anytime? Chukie1188 17:11, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I asked this same question when the LB bonus was extended to heros long ago with no answer. Might end up testing myself.  If I do, I'll post back.--&mdash;  xis10al  [[Image:Xis10al_sig_icon.jpg]] 17:53, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

I doubt it, as the damage there is just too indirect for me to that being the case Lyra Valo 09:37, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

Your ranger pet's don't get it, so I doubt your minons would. - NurseMyth

Demonic Servants ?
Which enemies are considered as "demonic servants of Abaddon"? I`m just making the Abaddon`s Mouth and I found that I`m taking 2 points of damage because of Jade Bow`s Whirling Defense (it completly bypass armor, isn`t it?). Also, there is a link to a "Demons" (it contains many UW monsters), does that meam that this skill reduction/extra damage works on all this foes? --DragonLord 13:22, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I believe demonic servants of Abaddon are limited to Margonites, Torment creatures, and Stygians. However, the Mursaat don't serve Abaddon for sure.  Yes, Whirling D does ignore armor.  Are you sure they don't just have horrible Expertise?  GD  13:28, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
 * The minimum damage of Whirling Defense is 5 (unless they have less than 0 in it, who knows). Now I`m pretty sure I`m taking 2dmg, maybe I`ll try to remove Title... --DragonLord 13:45, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok, w/o Lightbringer on I`m still getting 2dmg. If reduction from Rune works (if WD dmg is considered as physical) they must have 0 points in dexterity (5 - 3 = 2). That makes question - why the heck they have Oath Shot that req. min 8 Expertise to work properly? --DragonLord 14:00, 31 May 2007 (CDT)