Talk:Wintersday 2009

typo detected ... January 2, 2010 is Saturday, not Friday. 76.230.131.112 21:54, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then fix it :P &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 22:17, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Rift Warden?
Where the F is the Rift Warden? I don't see him in Kamadan.--99.225.28.182 22:46, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * They'll appear on Monday. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 22:57, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Geez, it's that time of year again? Time to buckle down for some more attempts at Polar bear farming.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  23:52, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * They are here now, happy farming everyone. Try to keep count of how many runs u did :P Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  21:45, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Factions
Why doesn't factions have the event yet? what's wrong? Jedibob5 19:06, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, because it doesn't? Prophecies/Nightfall get Halloween and Wintersday, Factions gets Canthan New Year and Dragon Festival.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 19:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * The continent of Tyria is roughly equivalent to Europe and celebrates the more Western holidays. Cantha is effectively the Asia of Guild Wars and celebrates holidays that are more closely related to those of Eastern cultures. Don't ask how Elona has the same holidays as Tyria. Probably because it would have been too convoluted to have another set of holidays to keep up with throughout the year, so it was just easier to synchronize it with Tyria. SlothIncarnate 14:53, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Not to mention Tyria and Elona are on the exact same continent, one just being south of the other. The two have always been much more closely linked.  It makes no less sense for Tyrians and Elonans to celebrate the same holidays as it does for Ascalons and Krytans to celebrate the same holidays. --76.113.200.14 01:23, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Costumes
With the recent introduction of costumes does anyone think is it possible that we could see full costumes replacing the festival hats in events? SlothIncarnate 14:57, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Possible, but I doubt it. If people can get full costumes for free, they'll be less likely to want the ones that aren't free, and that would reduce Anet's cash flow.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 16:35, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Unless the ones that ARE free, are bullshit ones like Santa Claus suits, Grentch suits etc. At least the Grenth's and Dwayna's costumes look good. -- N  aoroji   16:38, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * any predictions on costumes for the other gods? maybe Melandru in the spring time. Bottle130 11:21, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * That would have to be free, no one would pay to have wooden tits strapped to their body.--99.225.28.182 19:56, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well apparently we get hats again this year, but they don't look too bad. There's a picture up on the German wiki page here. --82.71.41.74 19:02, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * More female love. Hmm... And I think of all things, we will get new holiday hats and celestial minis until all GW1 servers are completely closed, which I don't see happening anytime soon. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 19:35, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

CC shards?
Will we be able to trade in CC shards for presents at some point? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.101.182.153 (contribs).


 * Wintersday Gift Givers are in LA and Kamadan, as well as the Dwayna Vs Grenth outpost. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 14:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * First I'm getting that übercool Candy Cane Longbow for pulling. But what to do with the rest? Save till you can bet on Grenth or Dwayna or just trade for gifts? Fleshcrawler   Soban  15:29, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * You only need a few CCS to play Nine Rings (Wintersday). Dwayna's/Grenth's points are based on how many CCS are "bet" in the game, which is 1 per character per round, not how many the characters have in their inventories.  And no matter which circle you stand in, you will at least break even, on average.  So yeah, keep a few for the finale, but go ahead and trade the rest for gifts.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 15:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Iirc, there are 15 game rounds. Considering you win some shards back during the game, you can probably get away with 6 or 7 at start and still get through all 15 rounds, unless you hit a really bad losing streak. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 19:39, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Presents after leaving the area?
Lies... O_o RoseOfKali 09:30, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed then.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ is hosting a Card Creation Contest! 09:40, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Mask Bug
Stupid bug. Every one I spoke didn't get a grenth head in LA, In EU dstr. and so did I. It sucks. More have the same problem? --   † F1 ©  Talk  11:34, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I got a Grenth in LA En-5 at 8:01, no dwayna in En-8 at 11:01  Random  Time   11:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * (EC) Oh, yeah. I've had two fails trying to get Grenth's hat so far... now 2 and a half more hours to wait.  Glad I'm afking and working on something else right now, or else I'd be more than just mildly annoyed.  But yeah, lots of problems so far.  Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 11:38, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems loads of people didn't get a hat the second time. No one I talked to got a hat. I was in Am dis 33 LA.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 11:39, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did get Dwayna's during the first event. It does seem like more people are reporting problems with Grenth's, so maybe the whole exploding present thing is exacerbating whatever's causing this.  Maybe.
 * Or it just means more people start with Dwayna first, and the problems cropped up halfway through the first event. >.>  Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 11:45, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Checked all Districts of both cities...I only talked to two people who got hats. Somewhat depressing that A-Net would let this slide. Everyone is hoping for new build or redux. I guess we'll just have to find out. Middleschoo2  11:50 January 1, 2010
 * Even better... just have an NPC I can turn in 250 shards to and pick which hat I want/need/etc... Nova-exarch 11:55, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I had two characters (one from each account) in the same district on the same spot (EU-Russia-1-Kamadan) and only one of them received the Snow Crest. Been AFK since before midnight my local time on both accounts, so have gone through two rounds on them, and still nothing. HanokOdbrook 12:32, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've seen alot of reports of American and Euro-English Districts. But what about the german/french/spanish etc. etc. districts?. I assume the same but who knows... Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  14:06, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, exactly the same problem. I'm from Germany. 2 tries in Kamadan no hat. -- 84.175.82.170 14:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * After 4 tryes I finnely got the Grenth hat in Kamadan Dstr 7 -- F1Sig.png  † F1 ©  Talk  14:35, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Another weird thing is that some people DO get them while others dont. What is the diffrence between the ones that do get em and the ones that dont? Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  14:47, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Judging by the reports so far, I'd say it is failing as it iterates through those who should be earning the hats. If that's the case, it's based on whatever determines your order in that list, which could be anything from the order in which people joined the district, or maybe with people coming and going, you get the first available slot in some giant array.  (I would rather doubt that the server would bother to sort the array, so alphabetical and other orders seem doubtful.)  Which, from our perspective, basically comes down to luck.  All I can say is that if I am right, leaving and coming back may be a good idea to at least try to gain a different position in that list for when you try the next time.  It could be why I failed twice in a row (I tried restarting the game client after the second fail, and am now trying another character.)  Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 14:58, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is just bad. I mean, it's not really the first time ever they had these events. Just give all accounts one of each hat, can't see why I should have to pay up with 250 ccs.

Try this for the next event: Show whatever hat you got to the festival hat guy, then DELETE IT, so you have no hats from this year in your inventory. Then see if you get the new hat from the new event. If it works, then it's probably that they added code to keep people from getting more than one hat in their inventory at a time (from afking), but the code doesn't distinguish between the 2 different kinds of hats. That's my working theory anyways, I'll test it out in an hour and a half. Trickfred 15:33, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not it. I never have Festival hats in my inventory, afked the hat in LA d15, no dice. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  15:36, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I had hats, but still got my Dwayner hat from Afking  Random  Time   15:54, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * There has benn an entry in the German www.guildwiki.de discussion on Winterday 2009 that somebody received the hat, when the first place in storage has been empty. So far there have been a success rate of 2 times. I found no entry on checking it. I will check it, but it would be better if it is checked by more people. So, no proof yet. Just an unproven idea. -- 84.175.82.170 16:19, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I had the same idea. My test of this theory resulted in failure.  Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 16:20, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nope. I got the Grenth hat in my second slot (CCSes were in first).  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 16:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have the first 4 inventory slot rows free. I have Wintersday Gifts and CCShards in my belt pouch so any winnings end up there. Just waiting for the event to start now. 3rd time lucky Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  16:58, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I showed the festival hat to the festival hat guy, and deleted it (already had dwayna). Logged in as a different character and afk'ed at LA dist 99 and it worked for me.  Not sure if the different character makes any difference or not, but doing this way allowed me to get both hats. --Lania Elderfire 17:16, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Weird bug it is. We were with 3 people in a party. and 2 got a hat (I got one yeah) Thats just weird. But I got both now so. I'm happy -- F1Sig.png <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="darkred"> † F1 ©  Talk  17:29, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Turns out 3rd time is lucky. Just got back and I got the Dwayna hat <font color="Green">Lยкץ๒๏ץ <font color="Blue">talk  17:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's five times I've failed to get Grenth's hat. So, now, I'll show the hat maker my Dwayna hat, destroy it, and try that, because I've already tried switching to another character.  In fact, this is pretty much the only thing I have left to try.  Really, though, I doubt they'd check your whole account to see if you have the other god's hat before giving you one.  <font color="#660099">Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 17:44, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what the deal is. I was partied up with my husband and two other people. I and one other person in the party got a hat and my husband and the other guy didn't. I've left three chars in three differeint districts all night long, and not one of them got a hat.

Fixed...?

 * Cross your fingers. Supposedly, it is fixed.  <font color="#660099">Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 19:04, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fix made Kamadan impossible to reach. Gives a "code=50" error and keeps reattempting to connect. I heard characters that were in kamadan can't be accessed atm.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]<font color="Green">El_Nazgir 19:20, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the party search doesn't work anymore for some reason. doesn't show a single player buying/selling/asking for anything at all.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]<font color="Green">El_Nazgir 19:22, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Apparently, it's only kamadan american districts and international. Europe works and I heard asia works too.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]<font color="Green">El_Nazgir 19:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, I can get to Kamadan's Europe/Asia districts, but not Int'l or American. At least you can break you out of the Code=50 loop by map-traveling to any other outpost.  And party search is working in both Kamadan and LA - if it was broken, it's been fixed.  [EDIT] Eye of the North American also has Code=50 error, but I can get in the Int'l district there.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 19:32, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * ...And then everyone in Lion's Arch gets disconnected. o_O  Seems they had to reset the entire outpost/district system to fix Kamadan/EotN, people are reporting being able to access American/Int'l districts again.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 19:58, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * What a mess, they should have seen problems like this coming, not like festivals don't happen every year... --Lania Elderfire 20:05, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Seems like it is fixed now, i got a hat with the same character with more than one hat in inventory. --Lania Elderfire 20:10, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Regina explained. All the AFK people who were still on the old build were overloading the servers, so they had to trigger a game-wide 007 to clear that up and restore access to Kamadan/EotN.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 20:13, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, well, at least it worked. Hopefully, no more fail for today, though since I'm only in it for prezzies now, I suppose it doesn't matter to me anymore.  <font color="#660099">Nwash  [[Image:User-Nwash-Eyes.png]] 20:15, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm from Germany, Got disconnected a few minutes before event. Event delivered hat in Kamadan. Seems to be a restart of server. -- 84.175.82.170 20:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * No event at all in LA American districts 87 and above apparently.[[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 21:07, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, that happens if districts get created too close to the event time, which isn't totally surprising with the server reset happening just 10 minutes before this event. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 21:56, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Can't get back In
Got dropped and it's now 2:25 cst and I still can't get back in. WTF. Come on guys I only get so much free time to get gifts and hats! And what is code 050???
 * There was a 1-day finale re-do announced in Regina's Journal, no date yet. So, don't panic. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 23:15, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Is the new date announced already or is Guildwiki going to announce it whenever she announces it? (Btw, in the last finale, I did got my Grenth hat when I was in Asia...?) --Jorre22225 16:14, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yesterday's game update, which came between 9 AM and noon PST, fixed the hat issue. No, it's not been announced yet, and of course we'll update when it is.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 16:21, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * There was also a live announcement during the finale:

RoseOfKali 19:36, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Brings to mind the Dragon Festival Redux of '08. [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 20:13, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Except that was nature screwing people, this is a bug of their own doing. But yeah, it's pretty much the same deal.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]] Entrea   [Talk]  20:19, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

ReRun of wintersday
I guess they keep it like last year in July? if not earlier. --88.192.230.158 09:54, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I can't say for sure but I think it will be somewhen earlier. And Wintersday in July is a separate event if I remember correctly. [[Image:EM Signature.jpg]] ***EAGLEMUT***   T  A  L K 12:45, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * WiJ is special drops from monsters and access to the snowball arena. The "rerun" that they've promised us will only be the finale event.  No overlap/relation at all.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 15:14, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're probably trying to figure out why the finale went to hell the first time before they try again. But yeah, July is a separate event, the rerun should be before the winter is over. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 16:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Rerun Announcement
Check Massively.Elizabeththeliz 00:51, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not check the original on Regina's page? RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 01:50, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Info has been added to the page. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 03:33, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Run Fail
So I just went to Kamadan and Lion's Arch. It's 12:41 PST and the only thing they have up is the snowball fight and a few NPCs. The towns aren't decorated and none of the quests are available. Is it supposed to be a half-done Wintersday? Because this is monumentally lame. You'd think they could just rerun the scripts from last month. Zyanya386 20:46, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12:57 I guess I just caught them in the middle of updating it or something because it's all up now. (Except for the Rift Wardens.) Zyanya386 20:59, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah it works fine now after the second update. [[Image:EM Signature.jpg]] ***EAGLEMUT***   T  A  L K 21:09, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * The wardens always show up a day late. &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 21:13, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still no grentchies (presents) or gift givers to be found. >< --Franzwald 23:19, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wardens showed up, though. Plus, the only thing they were "required" to re-run was just the finale, so anything else is a bonus. :) A whole week of bonus! RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 23:22, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's great that they're doing the redux and all, but why give us access to all the quests and CCshard farming if there's no way to cash them in for presents? Zyanya386 07:41, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Wintersday Gift Givers don't show up until Monday. There's no obvious reason for them or the wardens to be delayed, but they are.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 14:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * The point it, it's the same Wintersday as always. Except hopefully not broken this time, which is even more than we could expect. So just enjoy it or ignore it, whatever it is you usually do around then end of December. :P RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 16:52, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * So then everything is as it should be except the LA/Kamadan present running is still missing. :( What else am I supposed to do with all of my fruitcakes while buying Xmas stuff? :( --Franzwald 18:05, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Save for the Boardwalk. ;) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 20:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * The point is, it's not the same wintersday. Not for all of us.  I usually spend my time farming for CCshards and cash them in for presents to help my sweet tooth, party, and drunk titles along. Now I can't do that and all those CCshards are just going to take up space in my inventory. I'd rather they didn't run the event at all than do a half-baked version of it. Zyanya386 20:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * No they're not, and yes you can, they're there already. That took soooo long... ^_^ And what do you mean by "not for all of us?" These guys usually arrive later anyway. Iirc, the only thing they f*ed up this time was the decorations were missing at first, for which "who cares?" *shrug* RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 23:12, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still no grentchies QQ --Franzwald 06:15, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * They are hibernating. Save your strengths for "spank the dragon." :P RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 11:14, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Speaking of wintersday fail, the finale began half an hour ago...in SOME districts. IDK about Kamadan, but apparently only the first 30 something districts of Lion's Arch got the finale and their hats.  Why rerun if the same problem is going to happen again?  =( 24.58.229.157 08:31, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you sure those districts weren't created after the finale started? It's always been like that, with every event: a district has to be populated before the finale starts. The reason for the re-run is that some districts didn't run the finale even though they were populated. The first one is technically not a bug. --Macros 08:48, February 7, 2010 (UTC)