Template talk:Landmark

I want to suggest rephrasing the note.

The current phrasing is somewhat misleading and limits its use:
 * Misleading: You can also map travel to Mission locations (and some people refer to Cities, etc.)
 * Limited: it would be helpful to use the same note for non-village locations, e.g. Giant's Basin, Devourer Cave, etc.

[Current note phrasing]
 *  Note: This location is neither a town nor an outpost, so it is not labeled on the map and you cannot map travel there. You have to walk there every time you want to pay a visit. Make sure you've completed all your business before you leave.

[Suggested note phrasing]
 *  Note: You cannot map travel to this location, it is a part of a larger Explorable area, and you have to walk here from a nearby portal whenever you visit. Be sure to complete all your business before you leave.

This would require actually having a Point of Interest page, which also seems like a good idea.

--Tennessee Ernie Ford 23:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I revised a little grammar bit in the new version, but other than that it seems fine to me. I'm not so sure we need a special page dedicated to "Point of Interest" as it's not an in-game term and is not commonly used by players, it's just a way to classify a location.  The word "location" instead would seem just fine.  Also, a Mission Outpost is still considered an Outpost for map purposes, "Outpost" is part of its name after all, it's just a special case of an Outpost. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 00:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Your edits work for me. I'm also good with replacing Point of Interest with location (no article) (now changed).
 * However, the wiki does refer to Mission locations rather than Mission Outposts...and, until the discussion, I didn't understand what was/was not similar about the one from the other. --Tennessee Ernie Ford 00:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I've always thought of them as outposts and was surprised to see that that's not the "official" terminology. O_o But then again, neither is "Mission Location," I think it was just chosen by wikians. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 03:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I do like Mission Outpost better; sounds like an Outpost with a Mission (instead of a Location that's part of a Mission). I read the new phrasing again &mdash; it looks good &amp; reads well.
 * And does that mean that I wasn't confused by NCSoft? Never mind ;-) --Tennessee Ernie Ford 04:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So do we want to put it up for discussion on the Community Portal? I can easily rebot those three categories again, those are only 70 edits. ;-) -- ◄mendel► 05:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The terminology was decided before Nightfall came out. When there was only Prophecies, many people felt Outposts and those-places-where-you-enter-missions are two different types of locations.  Calling the latter "Mission Outpost" risked ambiguity/confusion when some people get lazy and abbreviate.  It isn't until the last Guild Wars campaign when the lines blurred.  At least that was the history of how why it was not named Mission Outpost.  "Mission Location" ended up being the most neutral alternative (by being bland). -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 05:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I do like the idea of calling them "Mission outpost" instead of location, I think it makes the most sense, all things considered. An "outpost" is a more specific subset of "location" and I do think it is accurate to call them outposts, which makes it absolutely clear that it is a "staging area" that you can map travel to, and that it's not referring to the actual mission, but rather the place where it can be started.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)