File talk:Optional.jpg

Should this image have black borders like all of the skill icons? --Gem  09:46, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
 * I think so. --130.58 11:05, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
 * I uploaded a new version with the borders. If someone doesn't like it, please comment. Personally I think it looks good in the skill bars. --Gem [[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] 11:26, 12 April 2006 (CDT)
 * I approve. [[Image:Optional.jpg|20px]] The blank canvas symbolizes the unity of world-shattering potential and crippling existential loneliness that is an artist's soul. --130.58 00:29, 13 April 2006 (CDT)
 * Could it be that you have finally found the perfect skill icon for your sig? &mdash; Stabber (talk) 00:31, 13 April 2006 (CDT)
 * Nah. I might just keep it clean. =) I do like the mdash, though. Much more dignified than --. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) ( 01:22, 13 April 2006 (CDT) )

Purely Artistic...
Can we change this to a png or gif, and have the inside be transparent instead of white. I don't see how it could break too many things in terms of presentation, and when a page background is non-white, it wouldn't scream "LOOK AT ME!!!" like it does right now. Thedarkmarine 16:27, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
 * i want it to scream "LOOK AT ME!!!". in fact, i want it to screem "LOOK AT ME!!! I'M WRONG! PUT A SKILL HERE! THE HOLLOW IS PAIN!" maybe if we put an eyejaring florescent icon the center of the white it would get people to stop using it. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:43, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I was so moved by this plea that I came up with this as a possible alternative.
 * [[image:optional-1.jpg]]
 * "Optional" Makes CoP-Baby Cry. --Black Ark 18:40, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
 * i was hoping for something like this
 * [[image:new-optional.gif]]
 * --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 11:58, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
 * 2 words: Ohh my... That's simply horrible! I'm all for transparency, except that jpegs doesn't support transparency, and if we switch file type on optional, it's just too much work to go through everything and edit.


 * And if I saw the CoP-baby in a skillbar, I'd assume that CoP was optional. o.o So.. What's wrong with blank? :p &mdash; Galil  12:15, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
 * optional is the guildwiki equivilent of "I don't care". it would be much better if every build had a full bar, then said "Replace X with Y if you need YAdvantages." is that really hard? i'd really vote to break optional in every skill bar if i could. or at least move it to "Blank" to signify that no skill should go there, or the author doesn't know what to put. we could upload a "skill-bar grey" icon to match an empty slot on the ingame skill bar. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 12:52, 1 August 2006 (CDT)


 * As .jpg does not support transparent background, and .png doesn't scale appropriately in the wiki, how about just modifying the current image to use an off-white color? A very pale yellow, brown, blue, or gray?  Might take the edge off, while still allowing it to clearly show that there's an open skill slot. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 12:46, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
 * A little bit off topic; if Gravewit approves to my changes, soon enough the wiki will resize png images decently. :) &mdash; Galil  13:13, 1 August 2006 (CDT)