Talk:Drop rate/Obsidian Chest

Two things bothers me; I would also like to suggest a different table for Drop_rate/Obsidian_Chest, but I'll do that when I'll be less sleepy. 08:16, 22 March 2006 (CST)
 * Doesn't chests always drop equippable items? can't recall see an armor pop out of a chest.
 * Rarity is problematic. if I go hunt for chests by myself, then it's fine. but if I'm in a group, and someone opened a purple chest, I will not open it. the solution is to have statistics for the purple:gold ratio for each kind of chest, and separate purple from gold chest statistics.
 * Chests in Hell's Precipace will drop armor (unlocked sup. vigor that way), not sure about the other chests, can't recall getting any from them, but that may just be my memory. There is a post on the GWG forums that is similar to this and they someone mentions getting sup. ruins from chests.  --Rainith 08:19, 22 March 2006 (CST)


 * ...Another argument for giving each chest page a different tamplate... 08:41, 22 March 2006 (CST)


 * The argument for consolidating the chests into one article was (and still is) that there was no difference in the articles. A Phantom chest is a CHEST that is found in the Underworld. A Miner's Chest is a CHEST that is found in Sorrow's Furnace. Now, if we DO have the different data for each chest, then that would be a good reason to divide them into deparate articles showcasing each Chest's statistics. --Karlos 08:46, 22 March 2006 (CST)


 * As Rainith said, chests drop armor sometimes. My theory (to be confirmed) is that it depends on the area. If the "usual" monsters (not those spawned by quests) drop armor, then the chest will dorp armor of the same type. So, the Helle's Preicipice chest drops Titan armor, the Abaddon's Mouth chest drops Mursaat Pajamas and the Sorrow's Furnace chest drops Dwarven Armor.
 * With regards to whether the drop is gold or purple, that's easy. Read the chat window, if it says "Joe Shmoe picks up Truncheon" then it was purple, if it says "picks up rare Truncheon" then it's gold. Granted, there is problem in seeing the stats of items that drop for others. I don't understand your proposition however.
 * Finally, please suggest different forms, this is just a suggested draft, not an actual plan. :) --Karlos 08:44, 22 March 2006 (CST)


 * I find armor in Shiverpeak, Darkstone, and Miner's chests. The lowest chest on the chest ladder I find gold items in are Kryta Chests. Obsidian, Phantom, Elonian, Maguuma, and Kryta chests seem to only drop equippable items.
 * One possible suggestion is to track the % of different chests and their drop rates, either purple or gold. Another is I agree that Chests should be separated by each type of chest.
 * What we are trying to track is the gold/purple percentages, and the percentage of class specific items. As Karlos stated, you can see if someone picked up a gold truncheon or a purple one. Then you collect that a Purple Truncheon(Necro Item) dropped from "this type" chest.
 * I have always thought chest drops to be random, but to me, that is why this is a good thing to track. To test the randomization of each type of chest. One gold Phantom Chest in Tombs put out 3 gold canes one after the other in one run.
 * I think perhaps we should do them by area as well. Tombs chests might have different output percentages than those in UW. Stats of items aren't really an issue for this study, I do not think. Gold items have a better chance to give higher mods, purples less. I will try to come up with a template myself in my spare time, which will be at work. hehe. --Gares Redstorm 09:27, 22 March 2006 (CST)

IMO its just 'defined' if a chest is golden or purple. (example: some1 got a nearly perfec shadow blade while i got a staff +22hp no more bonuses) so, this whole item listing is... not needed. HJT 11:14, 1 April 2006 (CST)
 * If they got a nearly perfect shadow blade that must mean it was a gold drop. A staff with no mods and bonuses except +22 hp would never be gold. &mdash; Galil  18:13, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I've had worse golds than that &mdash; Skuld 07:35, 4 September 2006 (CDT)