Talk:Judge's Insight

I have tried to upload the skill icon, but it doesn't seem to like the  '  in the name, and tries to change it to Judge\'s Insight. The image appears to be here:, but when you click it, the page appears to be blank. How should we deal with this? Should we change it to Judges_Insight.png? --Hewus 14:13, 14 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * Reupload it with a different name. Images can't be moved/renamed.  And, amusingly, this issue is preventing me from deleting it, too.  --Fyren 11:43, 21 Aug 2005 (EST)


 * True, the image page is not working (Probably a wikicode bug), but it appears fine if you put it in the article. I doubt that there will ever be any need for the image page, anyway. --Talrath Stormcrush 14:44, 21 Aug 2005 (EST)

Holy Damage
Holy damage ignores armour, according to the damage page. Does Judge's Insight give 20% armour penetration against the base 60 AL for Holy type damage? 148.177.129.213 19:28, 12 Oct 2005 (EST)


 * That is how it seems to work (though the "60" will very with the smiting level of the caster, I guess). --Fyren 20:19, 12 Oct 2005 (EST)


 * holy damage isnt "ignoring" armor, it just sets all armor to 60. Judges insight makes that 40. Anoither thing is that attacks with armor penetration ignore strength.


 * Judges Insight on its own would cause your attacks to behave as if your opponent had 48 armor, not 40. 20% of 60 is 12, not 20.  Additionally, this skill stacks with other attacks that have armor penetration for greater damage increases.  Standard attacks made under Judges Insight do not ignore strength bonuses to armor penetration either.  So you can either stack the armor penetration from insight and strength OR the penetration from insight and a special penetrating attack.  See http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=158#ArmorPenetration --Squeg 03:25, 13 Oct 2005 (EST)
 * Exactly this article says "It is a very common misconception that some damage types (holy, chaos and dark) ignore armor by default. This is not the case". Thus, JI should not modify a target's armor level (besides granting 20% reduction). 134.130.183.83 05:17, 18 October 2005 (EST)