User talk:Jagre/archive 2

Questions
Is there a way to make a new tab on my user page, like say "builds" (next to user page and discussion) or anything?

What is going to happen after the "build wipe" will the builds link still be in the main page? how will new builds be added, or will that be impossible after that?
 * I hope my attempt to respond to your questions will not be deleted as quickly as all my other comments :). Ok, as far as I know, you cannot create another tab.  As to the build wipe, the best way to learn more is to become proactive.  I would suggest reading through the talk pages for NOB and PNB.  Hopefully that will answer your question and will also get you more informed and involved with the question of policy than any simple answer I could give you.  Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs) 23:36, 20 March 2007 (CDT)

Discussion
Since my build was voted unfavored, should I now hold all other builds to that same standard? That they must be better than mine to get a vote of favored from me? Jagre 06:00, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, your build was horrible, so therefore, you should hold builds to a much much higher standard than yours. --Theonemephisto 16:22, 20 March 2007 (CDT)


 * that would force me to vote even more than half of the builds in "tested" as unfavored. Jagre 21:37, 20 March 2007 (CDT)

Request
Here-in lies a request, provided by following (GW:NPA)policy,


 * "Removal of text

Removing unquestionable personal attacks from your own user talk page is much less of a concern than removing comments from other pages in GuildWiki. For text elsewhere, where such text is directed against you, removal requests should be directed to an admin to determine if the comments should remain, be archived, or be deleted. However, deletion should be rare, limited to situations where the comments pose an ongoing threat to a user such as revealing personal information in the attack."


 * for possibility of agreement that there are some personal attacks against me in the sections Build talk:N/W Jaguar Sword, melee-mancer anti and Talk:Meleemancer guide.
 * My proof of this lies here so far by the fact that much of the same topics of discussion have been brought, and are more appropriate to my own page. More specifically there is much discussion of user attitude, user style, and specific unintentional harmful actions of users, most of which is in no way related to the page where the discussion takes place.

notice: i am considering moving the jaguar sword build to stubs page for reason that the discussion page is an embarrassment to me and likely the other members of the wiki society.

Deletions and Deletions.
Hi. Since nobody seems to point it out explicitly and since you seem to have a problem distinguishing it on your own (you're new, nothing's wrong with that) I would like to make it clear when removal of text is okay and when it's not...

The sentence you bolded on Gem's talk page, the one that starts "deletion should be rare..." is meant for discussion pages. This includes the discussion pages for main articles and other users' Talk pages. Whatever goes into a discussion page stays there except for archival and the rare cases pointed out by that bolded sentence.

This policy does not apply to your own Talk page, but removing/modifying comments by yourself and other users in your Talk page is considered extremely tasteless. If you changed your mind about what you said, you should strike it like this. (Go into edit mode to see how it's done.)

The above cases do not apply to main article pages. The bold sentence below every edit page ("If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.") makes that clear. Somebody's removal of text from articles (unless it's vandalism) is not against any policy.

To sum up:


 * You do not delete/edit comments in talk pages. Ever.
 * You can blank your own talk page, but it's frowned upon. However...
 * You do not edit somebody's comments even on your own talk page to distort their meaning. Ever.


 * You can delete/edit whatever's on an actual article. If your change is beneficial, it's accepted. If not, it's reverted.

Peace.--Ishmaeel 22:33, 20 March 2007 (CDT)


 * I like having clean user page. Jagre 23:01, 20 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Of course you do. Here's another tip to help you keep yours clean: Wiki is not a forum and wikians have different customs and expectations. One of them is that the discussions flow top-down. Replies are expected to go at bottom. I hope you will not mind that I moved your reply below my comment. Even though you did not actually edit my comment, your insertion shifted the context of the discussion, which I could perceive as distortion of what I said. Hope that helps.--Ishmaeel 23:15, 20 March 2007 (CDT)


 * what you said was true, but it is also a public page, and as such, it's customs are subject to change as people come and go. on my page, i would assume that my customs are forthright.  However that being said, I respect your right to question that and edit things as you see fit.   Thankx for the info.  Jagre 23:30, 20 March 2007 (CDT)