GuildWiki:Software and technical issues/Bugs

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Elite Skill List
Page: Elite skills list

Problem: The list is gone, all that appears in the article is the following

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'zeroliv_db5:pcache:idhash:3623-0!1!0!0!!en!2' for key 1 (208.100.1.138)".

Submitted By: Sorry I dont know what goes here, and Captain Ryan Crowe


 * While not logged in I also see the same. Purging the page appears to have fixed it. --Fyren 20:57, 29 September 2006 (CDT)

Mysterious Build Deletion
Page: N/Any Conditioning Minion Master

Problem: I made this build two days ago, and now, it seems, it's gone! There is no history of it ever being deleted, and the only hope I see of getting it back is going through ALL that work again to do so...

Comments: I checked this build and it was in the Untested Builds category before I left it. I don't think it was in the sandbox when it was wiped.

Submitted By: Jacxx 9:13, 24 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Log. For better or worse, it was decided we don't want Nightfall builds until release. --Fyren 09:19, 24 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Just out of curiosity, was this discussed somewhere? --Dirigible 09:31, 24 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Old_votes fyi. ~ Nilles (chat) 15:07, 24 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Thanks! --Dirigible 15:53, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

Cannot Access Second Page Glossary
Page: Glossary

Problem: Cannot access M to Z entries of glossary from A to M entries page. Should be able to by clicking "(next 200)." Instead, A to M (or 1 to M) entries appear again. I created an account to post this and guess what - It works when I log in!

Submitted By: &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dis Dat Dax (contribs) 20:12, 19 September 2006 (CDT).


 * Same thing happens to me in Opera, the Category:Glossary page won't displace the next 200 when I'm not logged in. --Xasxas256 20:32, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

The problem is still there if you haven't got an account.

Cannot View Ranger Skills
Page: Ranger Skills

Problem: I can't view ranger skills. When I try, I recieve this message: "A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'zeroliv_db5:pcache:idhash:7577-0!1!0!0!!en!2' for key 1 (208.100.1.138)"."

Comments:

Submitted By: 216.15.34.82 15:18, 11 September 2006 (CDT).


 * Should work now. I was unable to view it while not logged in until I purged it.  --Fyren 15:28, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

same thing has happend to me when looking at the untested builds... couldnt go from last page to any before it, it loads last page up first  06/oct/2006

Equinox --> Milodestus
Searching Equinox or clicking it on the Elite-Skill List forwards you to a description of Milodestus the Wrangler, a ranger boss.
 * I've done a search for Equinox, and clicked on it in the elite skills list. Both took me to Equinox (the skill article).  I can't reproduce this claimed issue. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:18, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 * both methods work fine for me, cannot reproduce bug. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 11:23, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

Im Having the same issue with Equinox/Milodestus -- Hrothgar
 * I can't duplicate this either. Could you provide more info?
 * It appears to happen as long as you're not logged in. --Fyren 06:08, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

I have also noticed a similar error recently on the monk skills page.
 * While not logged in, the monk QR page was giving me an SQL error. Purging the page allowed me to view.  --Fyren 16:52, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

Elite_skills_list
Following Error:

Database error From GuildWiki Jump to: navigation, search A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'zeroliv_db5:pcache:idhash:3623-0!1!0!0!!en!2' for key 1 (208.100.1.138)".
 * The same "fix" as the section below could probably work. Someone else can try a null edit this time (click edit, then save without changing anything), just to corroborate.  --68.142.14.32 10:56, 20 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Doing a "null edit" results in this error message:


 * Database error
 * From GuildWiki
 * Jump to: navigation, search
 * A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:


 * (SQL query hidden)


 * from within function "". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (208.100.1.138)".

Mesmer skills QR
Following link:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mesmer_skills_quick_reference

(mesmer skills)

gives this error:

Database error From GuildWiki Jump to: navigation, search A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'zeroliv_db5:pcache:idhash:6261-0!1!0!0!!en!2' for key 1 (208.100.1.138)".
 * I went to the article and got the same error. Doing a null edit seems to have "fixed" it, perhaps.  --68.142.14.42 04:17, 15 August 2006 (CDT)

The error continues to be present. Same error message. October 1st, 2006 10:20am New Zealand Time
 * Don't see an error while logged in or not logged in, but I purged it anyway. --Fyren 16:54, 30 September 2006 (CDT)

Build Page empty?
I can't view the Build Page. When I try to open the page the only thing I can see is: <div. Did somebody deleted a part off the source code?
 * Have you tried hard purge? Works fine here, and the source couldn't be deleted because all pages use the same thing &mdash; Skuld 06:57, 8 August 2006 (CDT)

Unknown Problem
please help. whenever i visit your site, which I do daily, ie: if I access armor link, any subsequent pages, for specific armor, the site freezes. I have to totally shut down explorer and reaccess the site, sometimes several times b4 the pages will load. Is this a problem my computer is having or a site problem? Not experiencing problems anywhere else, just wiki, please help.
 * I'm not aware of anyone else having this problem, have you tried a different Web browser? --Xasxas256 00:21, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

Untested Builds Missing Page Alert!
I can only see the first page of the untested builds. I'm trying to find more untested builds so I can try them, it doesn't seem to find the page.
 * In Category:Untested builds there is a link marked as "next 200" right above "Articles in category 'Untested builds'", does that work? ~ Nilles (chat) 10:13, 8 October 2006 (CDT)
 * See the section right below this. --Fyren 15:53, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

Multi-page category not showing subsequent paged for logged-out account (appears cache related)
Page: Category:Glossary (one known example)

Problem: If logged in, clicking "Next 200" or "Previous 200" correctly changes pages to view additional items. If logged out and browsing from an IP address, I can only get the next/previous page to show if I do an "&purge" on the screen.

Comments:

Submitted By: --- Barek (talk &bull; contribs) - 09:27, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I haven't been able to replicate this. Still an issue? Gravewit 11:15, 12 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I just logged out and went to Category:Glossary; when I clicked "Next 200" the screen didn't roll forward to the next page of entries.
 * When I logged back in and went to that page, clicking "Next 200" did change to the next page of entries. Some sort of weird chaching problem, but only appears when not logged in for some reason.  Not sure if anyone else is seeing this though, or if it's just me. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:28, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I have this problem - I don't have an account, and find I can't move from page to page on the Glossary; it simply redisplays the data from the first page. I've found this happens with both Firefox 1.5.x and IE 6 on multiple machines. I'm not sure how to purge the page, so I can't test that from here but clearing my browser cache doesn't seem to make a difference. 80.5.160.25 16:56, 17 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I have the same problem, using IE and firefox
 * I encounter a similar problem in IE. Upon calling a category, links like http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki?title=Category:Untested_builds&from=A%2Any%20Knockdown%20Assassin simply don't work any more. ~ Nilles (chat) 16:19, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

False Ban Message (Spam Filter?)
Page: all

Problem: If a user not logged in makes two edits within short time he will receive a message that his IP has been banned. But that is not true. If you wait a while, then try again, you can edit just fine. This is probably caused by some kind of spam filter.

Comments: None

Submitted By: --195.33.166.40 03:35, 24 April 2006 (CDT) (Tetris L)


 * I occasionally get this error message (that I've been banned by Adam.skinner) on my first click to edit; just re-trying immediately after seems to resolve it for me. Doing two edits in a short time doesn't seem to be a requirement for this error. --161.88.255.140 14:55, 26 April 2006 (CDT)
 * FYI: Just got one when I clicked "Save Page" for the above post. Clicking "Back" then saving again worked with no error the second time.  Unable to upload screenshot due to Login error (must be logged in to upload, and I need a new password emailed to login).   Here's the text of the error below. --161.88.255.140 15:02, 26 April 2006 (CDT)

User is blocked From GuildWiki Jump to: navigation, search Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Adam.skinner. The reason given is this: Vandalism You may contact Adam.skinner or one of the other administrators to discuss the block. Note that you may not use the "e-mail this user" feature unless you have a valid e-mail address registered in your user preferences. Your IP address is 161.88.255.140. Please include this address in any queries you make.


 * A user PMed me in-game and told me he got that message and it said Rainith banned him. He used to get occassional Adam.skinner messages, now he gets Rainith ones. Just thought I would mention that. --Karlos 07:29, 16 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I'm not sure about this one still. Can I get in contact with anyone who's had this happen? Gravewit 18:48, 21 June 2006 (CDT)
 * That happen to me this week. It only happen once and it was from work.  Said ban for "Die Spammer, Die!" or something like it.&mdash; ├ A  ratak  ┤  09:07, 17 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I've gotten the Die Spammer, Die message too :S --Sami 20:23, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

Spam-prevention is wonky
Argh, what a pain in the hinie. The spam-prevention thingy that stops edits from going through also clears the Summary, so I had a nice round of he-said-she-said with the system because I'd fill out the summary, submit, get the spam-protection challenge instead, fill that out, submit, get the "you forgot the summary"-reminder, fill out the summary again, get a new spam-protection challenge... etc, etc. ad nauseum. --Bishop (rap|con) 12:19, 6 May 2006 (CDT)


 * Looking into this! Thanks. Gravewit 17:07, 6 May 2006 (CDT)


 * Also note that the spam blocker is triggered by previews, and that it resets not only the summary but also the "This is a minor edit" checkbox. It has happened to me soooooo many times that I finished writing an article, hit preview, check it again quickly and find no errors, then hit submit and get the anti-spam message, which means that I have to re-type my summary to re-check the minor edit tickbox. Very annyoing. --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 04:47, 21 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Is this happening a lot to people? Gravewit 18:50, 21 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I used to get this problem too but I don't seem to get it any more (say for the last week at least it's been ok) --Xasxas256 10:16, 25 June 2006 (CDT)

Yet another Search problem
Page: The search page, Pei the Skull Blade and probably many more.

Problem: The page is not showing up in the Search window for the following search strings: "pei", "pei the blade", "pei blade" and a few more.

Comments: I'm not sure wether this is a bug, but if the page is not showing up if you type the first name of a mob, it totally defeats the purpose of having a search function...

Submitted By: ~ Nilles (chat) 09:59, 25 June 2006 (CDT)


 * As I see it you'll only get an Article Title Match if you've typed in the whole article's name correctly. If you search for say "Pei's Blades" which is contained in the article, it'll get a Page Text Match. Unfortunately the term "Pei the Skull Blade" isn't contained in Pei the Skull Blade, it's just the articles' title. Also notice that it's "Pei's Blades" and so searching for Pei is no good either, although searching for "Pei's" will generate a Page Text Match. --Xasxas256 10:12, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I added the text "Pei the Skull Blade" within the article Pei the Skull Blade, still no good on the search; although there may be an indexing routine that needs to run at a scheduled time before it will work.
 * Oddly, searching for "skull blade" or "pei skull blade" does result in a valid search result. But searching for "pei blade" it's not on the first page of results, but is the 36th match in the Article title matches.  This suggests to me that the word "Pei" is not being treated as a searchable term, but is instead ignored much like common words like "have" and "from", which are not indexed.  --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:54, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Perhaps words of length three or less aren't indexed. --68.142.14.40 12:05, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Maybe. But as for the wiki, I think it should index all words from page titles except for dictionary words (like "the", "on", "to", "and"). ~ Nilles (chat) 06:12, 26 June 2006 (CDT)


 * By default MySQL does not fulltext index words under 4 characters in length. See the mysql manual:
 *  Some words are ignored in full-text searches:
 * Any word that is too short is ignored. The default minimum length of words that are found by full-text searches is four characters.
 * Words in the stopword list are ignored. A stopword is a word such as “the” or “some” that is so common that it is considered to have zero semantic value. There is a built-in stopword list, but it can be overwritten by a user-defined list.
 *  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 01:47, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

Minor bugs
Quote from section above: [...] template:R not displaying on pages where it's included even though the icon shows when you view the template itself; Link on left toolbar to "Report a Bug" is missing [...] --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 16:19, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

&mdash; Galil  16:23, 17 July 2006 (CDT)


 * More on Template R, if you include that template like this it wont show, it also will not appear in the list of used templates when the page is edited or previewed. However if you do  it includes the template correctly and the icon will show up. --Draygo Korvan (Yap) 14:47, 18 July 2006 (CDT)


 * I noticed that too. Maybe deleting that template and recreating it might work. --Ab.Er.Rant @ User:Aberrant80 (msg) 05:27, 19 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Scope out Template talk:R, it appears to be a "feature" of the new MediaWiki if I'm reading PanSola's post correctly, so recreating it will make no difference and Skuld seems to agree. --Xasxas256 05:36, 19 July 2006 (CDT)
 * From my understanding of multiple threads on the issue: It appears that is a reserved template character in v1.7.1, which would explain why it worked before the upgrade and not now.  You can get around this by either using lowercase  or adding a pipe after the uppercase R , the simplest being to use lowercase r. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:31, 19 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Since this seems to be a "bug" that's here to stay, I changed the ProfessionsNavBox template so all ProfessionIcon Template calls are lowercase. This obviously fixes the ranger icon not showing up, and in my opinion adds consistency. I don't particularly like the idea of one style being used for a single profession, and another being used for every other one. By changing the norm used from here on out and patching the old pages, both consistency and functionality can be maintained. However - this would amount to no small amount of edits, and before I bother to go any further with them I figure I'll see if anybody has any objections to changes on this scale. --Kwisatz 23:48, 20 July 2006 (CDT)
 * template is buggy, it become a Plat, instaed of Paragon--heach 03:58, 28 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Technically, that's not a bug - it's a design issue. The  template has been in use since November of last year as a symbol for platinum.  Within the last week or two there has been discussion, and within the last couple of days the platinum symbol was moved to Plat instead of P.  The P sysmbol will catch up, it's just taking time.  Items in use for months take time to modify everyplace they're used. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 08:12, 28 July 2006 (CDT)

"GuildWiki has a problem"
Page: Random pages

Problem: When I click on a wiki-link I get returned to the main page. ( the URL displayed in the address bar is of the page I wanted to visit.)

When this happens the main page has text that is larger than normal. At the very top it says "GuildWiki has a problem". This is partially obscured by the "article" and "discussion" tabs ( they are drawn over the lower portion of the text "GuildWiki has a problem") there is also 2 copies of the Guild Wiki Logo displayed, they over lap with one to the left and up a small amount compared to the other.

If i click on refresh the problem normally clears and the desired page is displayed.

Submitted By: JP 08:16, 3 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I get this too occasionally, although I haven't once tonight and I've been pretty active for the last hour or so. --Xasxas256 08:19, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
 * see this atleast 3 times a day. esp bad when editting, as i'm never sure if an edit has taken and the review errored or the edit errored and i need to reapply it --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 09:56, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I get this too, had it several times today... --Jamie [[Image:Jamie.jpg|24px|(Talk Page)]] 10:23, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
 * It's been around since the upgrade to MediaWiki 1.7.1, but it's gotten more common it seems. My assumption is that it couldn't write to the database due to too many doing this at once. About edits though, it should be safe to re-submit if this happens. It should tell you that someone has edited the page since you started, and show you what edits he/she has done. Then it's just a matter of comparing your own edit, and the "new" edit. &mdash; Galil  10:49, 3 August 2006 (CDT)


 * The GuildWiki's traffic currently exceeds the capabilities of our hardware. We are looking into caching technology, as well as the purchase of another server, to help solve this problem. There is currently no ETA on a fix. The problem is most prevalent during peak times&mdash;roughly noon to evening, American time&mdash;so if you can visit during other times of the day, the problem shouldn't impact you as much. &mdash;Tanaric 19:05, 19 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Sounds good, cause this is getting unbearable. It seems to me the biggest issue isn't the php parsing though. It's the MySQL server being too busy. You often get "Database error" when trying to edit something, and visiting the blog shortly after tends to give you "Too many connections", where connections is referring to database connections. So I think it won't be as bad if you increase the maximum amount of concurrent connections to the database in my.conf. &mdash; Galil  14:55, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Edit: Also, according to the blog, the mysql server is currently running only one thread. The optimal amount for busy servers is . &mdash; Galil   15:03, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

Gameswikis Network
It's not really a bug but since this bar appered some of the box get broken in Firefox and IE. There is a gap between the discution, edit and history tab and the main box&mdash; ├ A  ratak  ┤  09:36, 14 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I cannot duplicate this bug. Firefox 1.5.0.3, Ubuntu Dapper. &mdash;Tanaric 23:59, 14 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I took some screenshots in Opera, it looks like this when you're not logged in and like this when you are logged in. --Xasxas256 00:12, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * The skin in your "logged in" screenshot is monobook, not the gamewikis skin. This was reported a month ago but someone removed it by accident. --Fyren 00:30, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Can anyone narrow down this bug further? As I said, in Firefox 1.5.0.3, Ubuntu Dapper, I cannot replicate this, whether logged in or logged out. &mdash;Tanaric 11:00, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
 * This is with Firefox 1.5.0.6 and unlike EI it doesn't happen on all the page. [[Image:bug gap in box in firefox.jpg|thumb|right]] &mdash; ├ A ratak  ┤  11:13, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

Category browsing broken for non-logged in users
Example: Category:Untested builds

Problem: If a user is not logged in, clicking the "next 200" link to browse in a large category does nothing. This happens in all categories that are large enough.
 * See same issue previously reported above --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:08, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Maybe if we keep reporting the same problems, Gravewit will actually do something. --68.142.14.61 00:31, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

Submitted By: 68.142.14.61 00:04, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

Incorrect article appears sometimes for non-signed in users
Page: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mo/any_Spirit_Bonder

Problem: Whenever going to the above page, either by link, or directly typing it into the browser, it shows a variant of the page http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Handsmasher

Submitted By: 207.224.15.10 11:17, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 * This seems to be the same broblem described above under Software_and_technical_issues/Bugs. When logged in, I cannot reproduce the error.  But, when logged out from my account, going to http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mo/any_Spirit_Bonder produces the error that you described. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:25, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 * I've uploaded a screen capture of the results after going to the referenced article when not logged-in. Note the odd over-lapping of two articles.  Handsmasher is visible in the body, but clicking on the tabs can result in going to either a page for Handsmasher or a page for Image:Check Box.JPG. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:35, 26 August 2006 (CDT)


 * There also seems to be some information relating to a game update in there! Using the webdeveloper extension for Firefox and linearizing the page you can see the following text:


 * 1)  Fixed a bug that caused henchmen and certain NPCs to run incorrectly into the midst of combat.
 * 2) Fixed a bug that caused Obsidian Keys and Phantom Keys to stop dropping in the Fissure of Woe and the Underworld.
 * 3) Fixed a bug that allowed players to earn Gladiator Title points in Zaishen arenas.
 * 4) Fixed a bug that prevented teams smaller than 4 from entering the Team Arena.
 * 5) Fixed a bug that prevented some teams from entering the Heroes' Ascent tournament.


 * And there's more after that. 80.192.2.227 11:42, 26 August 2006 (CDT) (LordBiro logged out).


 * It's Game_updates/20060801. 80.192.2.227 11:43, 26 August 2006 (CDT) (Me again).
 * Aonther example: When you click on the link to Aeson, the site comes up with the stub for the image of Miko the Unchained instead of the stub for the henchman Aeson
 * I tested this as a signed-in user and could not replicate the problem - so it's likely also restricted only to non-signed in accounts, which is why I merged it with the issue just before it. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 09:21, 28 August 2006 (CDT)
 * While not logged in, purging the MW cache "fixes" the problem. But I still have no idea what causes it.  This seems very strange based on what I know about MediaWiki.  --Fyren 10:31, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

Fires_in_the_East is showing me a luxon banner 62.56.100.85 12:42, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

Missing double quote in monobook skin
Page: All, if using the monobook skin.

Problem: In the HTML that's generated,  is missing a double quote after portlet.

Comments: I remember this coming up long ago. I think Skuld might have reported it. But, I can't find mention here or on the resolved page. Maybe someone knows where it was?

Submitted By: Fyren 06:04, 29 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Just for reference, the div in question is the one containing the Specialty Fansite logo in the toolbar, which for some reason won't even show up in the W3C validator any longer. &mdash; Galil  15:10, 29 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Edit: Actually, that isn't so odd after all. The real oddity is that the speciality logo doesn't show up if you're not logged on. &mdash; Galil  15:13, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

Database Error on Death With Honor quest page
Page: Death With Honor

Problem: The screenshot shows the resulting error message when attempting to access Death With Honor

Submitted By: Fission Xuiptz 20:35, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Are you still receiving this error? I've been unable to reproduce it myself.  Roughly when did it happen?  I'm wondering if the server was experiencing other problems at the time; if so, the server seems back to normal now, so all may be okay at this point. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:46, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 * It's working fine now. It happened around the time I posted the bug, as well as about 5 or 6 days ago when I first visited DWH. Fission Xuiptz 02:46, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

PHP Fatal error in Special:Newimages
Page: Special:Newimages

Problem: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 22140 bytes) in /usr/home/guildwiki/public_html/includes/Image.php on line 1230 message.

Submitted By: duckman 13:53, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm also receiving the same error on that page. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:52, 5 October 2006 (CDT)


 * It was Image:MDT MAP OF TYRIA 100% Post Arena Closing.jpg, deleted it anyway &mdash; Skuld 15:02, 5 October 2006 (CDT)