User talk:Readem/Eviscerate

This is a fun thing to do, when you got nothing to do :D. Readem (talk *contribs ) 01:15, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

I started with Evis, because it is very well known. However, expect to see less used and widely accepted skills, in the future. Readem (talk *contribs ) 15:10, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

This skill is probably the most powerful PvP Axe elite. Readem (talk *contribs ) 15:22, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

Discussion
You Mispelled Eviscerate!!! >< (T/C) 15:13, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Gah, everyone knows spelling and armor is for noobs. Duh lol ;P! Readem (talk *contribs ) 20:25, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

Synergy
For an example of skill synergy, Eviscerate+Executioners+Critical Chop= ftw. Readem (talk *contribs ) 15:10, 7 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Eviscerate + Executioner's is the no-brainer axe pwnage combo, personally I would take Agonizing Chop over Critical Chop since Crit is not as reliable. Don't forget to combine with Axe Rake and/or Axe Twist for cover conditions! [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:06, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

I personally enjoy using Shock, Bull's, Grasping, Evis+Exec+Crit.

I like this, but I usually have to kick Bull's for Fren,Rush, and res sig -_-... Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 15:47, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

&mdash; Skuld 13:46, 11 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Wouldn't Grasping + Bull's achieve pretty much similar effect to Shock anyways...and drain your energy pretty fast? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:19, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

PVP or PVE?
This skill is built for PvP, with its high damage spike with Deep Wound. In PvE, this skill is faaaaar outdone by any number of better elites (Triple Chop, Cleave just to start) in addition to the fact that PvE warriors are less damage oriented. --   20:32, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

I use crippling slash now in PvE and PVP. Crippling slash ftw! However, in PvE the elites you stated are better, merely for the fact in PvE Executioners+Dismember is better then Evis. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 15:05, 7 April 2007 (CDT)


 * I have to /disagree, the DPS from Cleave in PvE is laughable at best. Eviscerate totally pwns it in both PvE and PvP imho. It is best in PvP since noone does spikes in PvE - but - it is hard to beat the high damage and deepwound. Triple Chop is only a better performer in PvE if you'll be running into huge mobs like Mountain Trolls. This is not always the case. When is the last time you saw Mursaat clump together, eh? And I would still take a deepwound with damage over Dismember, which always pissed me off since it does not much except spread DW faster than most skills. But in PvE, if you wanna spread DW, just go W/Me and use Epidemic for example. Hence why I think Eviscerate is good everywhere...moreso in PvP, but it is still one of the better Axe elites in PvE aswell. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:02, 8 April 2007 (CDT)


 * I definately have to agree, its on of the best Axe elites in GW. However in PvE I find less adren expensive skills easier to use. That's just me of course. Besides, I run a sowrd in PvE. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 15:52, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

Triple Chop is better in PvE IMO, incredible DPS when combined with Cyclone Axe. Tycn 00:10, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Going to move your comment to the PvE/PvP section if you don't mind :D. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 00:13, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Edit conflict, was going to do it myself :p Tycn 00:14, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Icon?
Combines well with this: . (T/C) 00:06, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

Trivia
"Eviscerate" is a fancy medical term meaning to remove from the body by means of severance. Pretty much similar to "Amputate". (T/C) 00:06, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

"Eviscerate" appears to have four definitions which are:

Meaning #1: Medicine: surgically remove a part of a structure or an organ

Meaning #2: Medicine: remove the contents of

Meaning #3: remove the entrails of

Meaning #4: take away a vital or essential part of

Synonyms: disembowel, draw'''

It seems to derive from the latin roots:

E- Out of

Viscera- Internal Organs

Thus meaning, to take out internal organs.

<font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 16:15, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

why?
do you have a copy of a skill entry in userspace? i can see the builds, but i don't thing anyone is planning on GW:SkillsWipe... --Honorable Sarah 00:13, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, speaking that people comment on the skills randomly, I decided to make it more organized on my userpage. After a skill's "Week", a great deal of trivia, Synergy, and other related skill topics, would have been fully gone over by a multitude of Users. I do this in the hope, that some of the forgotten skills in Guild Wars, can be discussed by more expierienced players, rather then random anons at a various different times. Besides, this hasn't officially been started until I give people an Invitation for it. (But its ok if you commented all ready ;D)

<font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 14:00, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

buh
I don't like Eviscerate, Cleave ftw! &mdash;<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA   13:41, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * -_-... &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by readem (contribs).


 * Cleave is bad &mdash; Skuld 13:48, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

No way, cleave rox! &mdash;<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA   13:55, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Wich skill will be next Skill of zeh week? &mdash;[[User:Sigm@|<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA

]] 13:56, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Though probably not a good idea in well organized PvP, dismember+cleave achieves a similar effect as evis, but more often. At the cost of a slot, the deep wound + dmg comes out nearly twice as often. Again, it's a spike versus DPS situation. Also, try not to give bias to elite skills for your skill-of-the-week. --8765 14:05, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * And ironically enough, the need to use two adrenaline attacks for the same effect means you decrease the "pressure" of Cleave in any case. It is low to start with! Not an option for true PvP, and in PvE you could probably get away with Whirling Axe and Dismember if you really wanted good DPS. Cleave sux! [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:19, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

Unyielding Aura:)&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 14:26, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * That spell really needs a nerf, overpowered by Monks in HA... &mdash;[[User:Sigm@|<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA

]] 15:02, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Not Biasing, just laughing to myself XD. No harm in that. Besides, Sigm@'s funny. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 15:19, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

The Next Skill
Speaking that this was more of a test, then anything, I am going to allow people to give SoW (Skill of the Week) suggestions. All suggestions are welcome, as long as they are not completely ridiculous. Thanks! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 15:22, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Glimmer of Light my favourite monk elite ;) &mdash;[[User:Sigm@|<font color=#2a7510>Sig <font color=#d8be01>mA

]] 15:29, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Hehe, figured out how to choose the next skill. You guys get to see next week :D. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 15:39, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * If you don't mind, I'll make my own suggestions. All of the following are picked because they are generally unused skills with the possibility for great synergy.

Current List:

--   16:45, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * aka, most of these skills need a buff. --8765 21:18, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * no, wrong. Aka nobody has yet found what I believe to be a satisfactory combo with this skills, and they deserve it.  They have their place in some build, we just haven't found it yet.  Either that, or there are enough possible combos out there that we could find more. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    21:29, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

The rest of those skills, as far as i know, have seriously limited usages :) Tycn 22:47, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Energising Wind - negating the cost of RaO
 * Marksman's Wager - spamming Concussion Shot or just about anything
 * Oath Shot - spirit spamming
 * Grenth's Balance - rotscale anyone?
 * Mirror of Disenchantment - stripping aegis, orders, bonds
 * Psychic Instability - any interrupting build.
 * Arcane Mimicry - well, everyone wants 2 elites.
 * Echo - nuking
 * Ether Prism - stick it on anything that's seriously energy consuming
 * Master of Magic - smiting, spamming
 * Glyph of Essence - rebirth
 * Moebius Strike - spamming attacks, such as DB
 * Assassin's Promise - spamming your combo in PvE
 * Vocal was Sogolon - any chant build basically
 * Reclaim Essence - minion bombing
 * Angelic Protection - anti-spike
 * IJAFW - any paragon that doesn't need an elite, basically
 * Armor of Sancticity - for dervish tanking
 * Arcane Zeal - dervish orders
 * Extend Enchantments - Sight Beyond Sight, SoA, etc

Grenth's Balances is still my favorite PvE Warrior Elite :D. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 18:56, 12 April 2007 (CDT)

EW = SF4EVA! Mirror is slightly less good than when it was 25e but still good, moebius = assassin. Just the glaring ones &mdash; Skuld 18:59, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Those are only the obvious uses. I want to see more interesting ones.  Like Moebius, which recharges all attack skills, not just Assassin ones.  EW is much better for a skill like Panic.  Mirror is just a generally good PvP skill that isn't used and deserves to be.  For a perfect example of using a skill as it was not intended to be used, see here, where I used IJAFW as a damage skill. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    19:07, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * We got to rank 18 with EW + SF :( &mdash; Skuld 19:11, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Thats because people are dumb skuld... jk lol <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 19:15, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Don't be surprised to find me laughing after your creative skill usage gets rolled by the meta. --8765 19:21, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Of course it will, most of the time. And then, 1 out of 100 times, it won't.  Then I'll laugh at you. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    20:04, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Congratulations, you came across a such a poorly run meta, that you finally won after 99 tries. --8765 22:37, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Not what I mean. What I mean is that 1 out of 100 random crazy ideas I try is amazing enough that it will become the new Meta.  The other 99 times, it'll probably be a horrible build.  But I can live with that. :) --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:46, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok, create a new meta. Oops, sorry. Guildwiki does not recognize build ownership, and anyone can say they've created the current meta and/or claim their idea was stolen. --8765 00:16, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Ravenous Gaze needs a good usage, so far there are only sac+RG lifesteal builds (not that good, fragile) and RG + Infuse. That's okay but not really...great...since you still need another sac before/after Infuse, and as a Necro (you are a N and not a Mo right?) Infuse heals for less, wasted attrib. points for just one skill, still not a great skill synergy, etc etc. (T/C) 21:21, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * What about a new 55 N/Mo farming varient for solo kills? Use RG as your heal skill and kill skill, as you can safely go below 50% health without being fragile, and it would give you a cheap full heal, in addition to doing a ton of armor ignoring damage. Worth a thought. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:29, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You take too many hits as a 55 to be able to use it accurately, unless you only face a few enemies. Tycn 23:29, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Use Blood Renewal to add some regen in there to buy you more time. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:58, 12 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Might work, but it would still be a bit dangerous. Tycn 00:22, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Of course. It would be more dangerous and slightly slower killing then say, a Spoil Victor farmer (and is thus probably not going to become a fad build), but it does have one thing going for it: It isn't stopped by hex removal. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    06:14, 13 April 2007 (CDT)