Talk:Game updates/20100225

"Earth Shaker: all players less than a stone's throw away will see the effect of your mighty swing." Is this for real?? -- WhiteAsIce 03:44, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, actually, it's not. The skill is unchanged. Why in the fuck they put it on here is beyond me --Gimmethegepgun 03:47, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's even on the website. How retarded to waste time on something like that...
 * In other news, I'm updating the skill templates, but I've decided I'm not going to bother dealing with all the QR changes that are gonna have to happen... at least not tonight. So anyone who feels like it can follow after me and fix them.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 03:57, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Earth Shaker-wise, it mean a new, awesome animation with the use of the skill. Just try it out; the screen shakes. --- Ze Underkig


 * I'm working on the qr stuff right now, Ishy. And fixing the occasional mistake you made :P --Gimmethegepgun 04:06, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, when the whole description changes, it's easiest to work from the raw description in Gw.dat, which has all those %str1% parameters where the green numbers go, and it's easy to miss them (especially in the concise description, which I fill in after the normal description). &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 04:35, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Gah, I've got to stop and go to bed. I got through Destructive Was Glaive, so got to do the rest of Rit and then all Warrior skill updates, then everything mentioned in Notes (as well as a few other description changes NOT listed here).  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 04:56, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Ze, troll moar?? Just tested this, Earth Shaker is still the same. You're full of shit. --[[Image:Jimp.jpg|19px]] WhiteAsIce 09:40, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, just to be sure, I tested it. The AoE is now Adjacent rather than Adjacent to Foe, so it's bigger. Unless I made a horrifically massive mistake, which I doubt --Gimmethegepgun 11:03, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, think I've got everything updated. Got a couple skills on my spreadsheet that I marked as having a change, but I can't figure out what it was for some reason.  I'll check against Gw.dat and my old spreadsheet after work tonight.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 18:04, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Opinions on the update?
Seeping wound looks crazy x_X Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  07:14, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mildly annoyed that they nerfed Resilient Weapon. Now I can't just dump it on whatever and leave it hanging around for boosts with Wielder's Boon and turning Bleeding into a boon. And I am mildly terrified at what will happen in PvP what with Renewing Smash. Back Breaker -> Renewing Smash x4 before you even get back up. And then probably Hammer Bash to just in case. *QQs* --Gimmethegepgun 07:20, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, after trying it, I realized that it' split so the PvP one doesn't have 1 second activation. Dodged a bullet there --Gimmethegepgun 21:49, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

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Nerves, this game is now so bad, Anet keeps changing skills and now none of them are useable anymore lol. 83.128.96.191 17:14, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems like Anet is trying to revert things back to the Prophecies days. With the nerfs to 600/smite and SF, I forsee 55/SS and related builds coming in favor once again. --Franzwald 18:24, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * wat. The farming nerfs are brilliant. The nerfs to skills that were overpowered in PvP (Shattering Assault, Featherfoot Grace, etc.) were deserved, and they're still usable, unlike some other PvP skills. The buffs are cool. And best of all: they ACTUALLY LISTENED to the community's feedback when they released the preliminary notes last week. That's pretty impressive, for Anet. --Macros 18:43, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was literally having a heart attack going through all these updates....i even wanted to changemy fb status because of how happy I am. this is brilliant.  also, when was the last time they did double xp, faction, points, drops etc....?Sukatsuke Ra 18:53, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * 55/SS is still dead. At least, in UW. Now spirit spam is one of the only viable and reliable solo farms left for UW. Also, why obby flesh? It was hardly used with SF being the king of all things, and it's not that great that it would take over SF's previous role of dominating farming.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 18:57, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Spirit Spam is more viable than ever, but that's about it. I don't see why 55/SS or 55/SS/Famine wouldn't come back into favor. People won't stop farming just because of this nerf and those old school builds still work just fine. --Franzwald 19:19, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not in UW, with Dhuum's skele's running around. Which is about the only place where farming actually gives serious money. 55 Hydra farming? Nearly no profit, believe me, I used to do it before I realised how dated it was. --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 21:06, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Obby got hit because of the whole anti-godmode thing Anet pretends to be keeping. (I say pretend cuz obby flesh is still viable, dare I say buffed because they removed the -50% speed? oh and shadow form still grants immunity to spells, can be maintained on all proffessions and only costs 5e. UWSC might have taken a big hit, but alot of other SC's still look very much alive) I do like the rit buffs though. duo rit team for UW? 1 SoS with mimicry and 1 with Rit lord and communing attack spirits? Lยкץ๒๏ץ talk  23:10, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * They still have yet to nerf the now-most powerful invincibility skill in the game: Protective Spirit. It would be an impressively easy fix, too, that wouldn't really affect anything else in the game, really. Make it so it can't reduce damage below, say, 25. What kind of build would have less than 250 health? I guess someone fried on DP would get below that, but it would still be enough of a damage decrease to prevent instadeath from like a boss firing a Lightning Orb at you or something. But 55s and 130s couldn't possibly survive on 25 damage a hit. Easy --Gimmethegepgun 23:51, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I also have every toon in the game and the main reason was to farm anything anywhere at any time SOLO or as close to solo as possible. Now we get to throw away ALL builds made for farming and start over again.  The purpose for ME to have all these chars was to FARM.  Since I have done completed all campaigns I find myself bored of the game and go back to the fun I bought the game for was farming.  The multitude of skills being changed here is uterly absurd within an update.  Why nerf the most popular farming builds?  Seems like all the non-farming people had a tizzy and texted there opinions to Anet thus sparking more chaos.  I guess we need all the Pro-Farmers to text there opinions here in massive quantities explaining there views on why to not nerf some of these major skills used in farming or even missions.  I constantly get "u have been playing for xx hours".....Well thanks to these nerfs im gonna see alot more of it....or maybe not at all.  I have resided on giving Anet a short time to review these texts and do the right thing.  If they choose not to re-establish the skills as they were or perhaps buff them they loose me as a customer now and in the future.  The game is old but i did love it.  This is my opinion so take it for what its worth.  Maybe Anet wants to save bandwidth by losing ALL farmers.  More bandwidth to test there GW2.  I am in an alliance and the majority of the people are spending time on ventrilo by discussing a new game to move to. VERY VERY SAD!  BTW to the non farmers....through rescent months i see the player counts on GW seemingly dropping...When u non-farmers need people to group up its gonna be even more scarce....I feel for ya there.  Some farmers will stay but I also know if these skills stay nerfed alot will leave....Sadly. Farmingwasfun 01:09, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * You need to start playing a new game, GW is dead... Loads of MMOs out there (EVE, EQ2, even the dreaded WoW).  Random  Time   01:52, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't feed the trolls, man --Gimmethegepgun 01:56, February 27, 2010 (UTC)