Talk:Jahai Rat

Is this accurate? That last bit about the odds of inflicting disease sounds like speculation. &mdash; JediRogue  (talk | contribs)

23:17, 2 November 2006 (CST) Yea...umm I don't know anything about "Gnaw of the rat" stuff.-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 08:56, 3 November 2006 (CST)

I tested in the Mirror of Lyss. I made 2 of them start attacking me and waited there (healing of course) seeing if I ever got Diseased or saw any skill "Gnaw of Sickness" on my Damage moniter. I didn't. I sit there for over 30 minutes - which accounts for much more than 1000 attacks from them. Either the wild ones in Mirror of Lyss can't do it (like its only a charmed ones thing) or this is pretty much BUSTED. - Former Ruling 02:34, 5 November 2006 (CST)

WTF?
I was out in Vehtendi Valley and came across this group. One of the mobs in it was named 'Jahai Rat' but had the model of.. something very different...  I didn't bug report it. The screenshots are a little chaotic. It had the skills of whatever creature it looked like though. Anyone else seen this happen? (Ignore my nub skills and heroes : - BeXoR   09:04, 6 November 2006 (CST)


 * have seen this glitch before, also with pets. A charr stalker (with the skills and appearence it should have and in the right place) had the name "moa bird".  :: S oqed Hozi ::  16:03, 16 November 2006 (CST)
 * I have seen this before as well, a Jade Armor had the name "Black Bear", and it state it's level 5. －Sora 17:24, 17 November 2006 (CST)

I wonder if anybody who ran across these glitches tried to tame them? Baron Will Scarlett 22:59, 20 November 2006 (CST)


 * Yeh, I saw something on guru with the rat name a while back &mdash; Skuld 10:26, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 * Is a strange glitch that almost never happens, like creatures in different factions being spawned in another (Naga with Crimson Skulls, Revels with Summit Dwarven). So far I have only seen this once, in Prophecies a Salvn Cactus was 'renamed' as a Devourer.
 * Almost every time I run my friends from Ice Tooth Cave to Yak's Bend, I run into a Stone Summit named Snow Wolf or a Snow Wolf named Stone Summit Ranger/Carver. They're in Iron Horse Mine, right before the massive Summit-covered bridge (that I like to sprint across). crenel 11:08, 27 January 2007

I witnessed this bug too. I was at the Beelte group next to Riktund in Mirror of Lyss. Suddenly one of the Beetles show up like this: Copper Elf 11:17, 4 March 2007 (CST)
 * I also saw a Jahai Rat in Riktund's mob. It was a Cobalt Mokele. I thought it would only have the HP of a lvl 3 creature, but it didn't. --[[Image:Warrior's_Endurance.jpg|18px]] numma_cway 05:10, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

I was in the the Dunes of Despair mission and noticed one of the warriors that was attacking my party was named Dune Lizard. That'd be so cool if they were charmable, but I doubt it =P. Wang 21:33, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Win! --Darksyde Never Again 14:56, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

Disease.
It seems some people are still willing to propagate this myth. There's an easy answer as to why it couldn't be true: it would throw the whole pet system out of balance. If the rat can inflict disease, then that makes it "better" that almost any other pet. The only other that has some sort of special ability is the Bear, with Brutal Mauling. And the downside to that is the reduced DPS.

Unless Jahai Rat has some sort of disadvantage that balances its ability to inflict disease, such as -60 total health or such, then there is simply no way the rumor is credible. Anet wouldn't introduce something so out of balance, causing a mass movement by Rangers to replace their beloved Elder Wolves and Black Widows with...rats. It's simply nonsense.

Finally: no screenshots. There is no other "proof" so far other than oral accounts. In controversial cases such as this, some more concrete evidence and testing must be demonstrated. Burden of the proof lies with the people claiming they see disease.

I'm going to move the recent edit to the Talk here, as it is more of an opinion than a fact and does not belong on the page. Entropy 23:17, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Someone already beat me to the punch, nevermind. :S Entropy 23:20, 7 December 2006 (CST)

anyne think its wierd you cant find this in jahai depite its name?  :: Soqed Hozi :: 

It wouldn't nececarily throw the game out of balance, remeber that disease can spread to your own team too! I do want this pet anyways for a PvP bm just because its fun to laugh at people for getting killed by a rat...--Devils Apprentice 21:24, 19 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Yeah, but consider Tainted Flesh. New roxxor PvP team! In PvE at least, I can think of a dozen areas where free Disease from a pet would totally wtfpwn everything, or at least make it a lot easier. Versus Stone Summit at Sorrow's Furnace, for example. Or Afflicted in Cantha. Don't forget about the many types of animals in Elona, either - like insects. Yes, free disease that doesn't come from a Necro would be crazy in PvE. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:28, 19 March 2007 (CDT)


 * But it would be incredibly unreliable since the chances of a rat using this skill is extremely rare, if it even does at all. -Wang 23:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Damage Type
Does anyone know which sort of damage such a jahai rat inflicts? is it blunt, slashing or pircing damage? or does somebody know if there are pets that deal non-physical damage? -- Zerpha The Improver 14:15, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Name
The name of the Jahai Rat changes to 'Agressive Rat' on lvl 11, if you train it the agressive way. So actually, its original pet name must be 'Rat', and not 'Jahai Rat', just like Moa Birds get renamed to Strider if you change their name (or the other way around, can't remember). —[ Adul ] 11:22, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Nah, that always happens. White Tiger changes to Aggressive Tiger; even though it is still a white tiger. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 11:24, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah, so some pets have a longer name and a shorter one, good to know, thanks. Might be worth indicating this in the separate articles of the pets themselves. :) —[ Adul ] 12:25, 8 May 2007 (CDT)