Talk:Cruel Spear

executioner's strike for spears--Life Infusion 22:51, 28 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Eviscerate? The description doesn't match the damage progression chart atm.

Sigh..when will Rangers get their deep wounds. :(
 * Probably never. Otherwise, why have a Spear Paragon? The Spear skills are there to do stuff rangers can't do easily, like instant bleeding, deep wound and fire without resorting to preparations.Labmonkey 08:00, 31 October 2006 (CST)
 * Well, thanks to Screaming Shot, rangers can get instant bleeding without preps as well now. DKS01 03:36, 16 November 2006 (CST)
 * You want rangers to be able to cause DW from longbow range? T__T I'll pass for the sake of my caster characters' sanity, thanks. Kessel 04:41, 21 November 2006 (CST)

Is it just me, or does this skill suck @$$? I wouldn't use it if it wern't elite.-- Windjammer 09:47, 24 January 2007 (CST)
 * If by "suck," you mean "not bad," then I would agree with you. But given how spears throw relatively fast, making 7 adren not too hard, you can drop a Deep Wound on an injured target while inflicting nice damage.  As a matter of fact, it does more damage than Eviscerate, and costs 1 less adren.  Of course, the enemy must be standing still for said Deep Wound, but I digress...Twinkie Doomcaster 00:27, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * Merciless Spear, when you need a deep wound most. It costs less, its not elite.--[[image:Windjammer Icon1.jpg|12px]] Windjammer 01:38, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * The condition sucks major balls. You practically need to have someone gale the target to have 100% DW. The only reason this skill isn't complete piece of crap is that spear line doesn't have any +40 dmg no drawback attacks. Man what I'd give for 8 adren +40 dmg no frills attack. --Spura 07:09, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * I'd rather have not moving as a condition than below 50% if I'm trying to get a spike going in PvP. --Fyren 17:53, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah well both conditions suck. Most spikes only use shadow prison to snare down 66% so you need to change spike to include KD to use cruel spear. Really stupid to have bunch of DW spear attacks and they are all worse than plain Dismember.--Spura 11:28, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * I'm pretty sure they're intentionally making it difficult to get a ranged deep wound for balance reasons. Rangers have nothing and mesmers only have phantom pain and accumulated pain.  --Fyren 18:33, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * Perhaps. But if you use several players, like ranger spike, it isn't that hard. Each R/P uses "Find their weakness" on himself, #1 uses "Go For The Eyes", #2 uses Anthem of Envy, #3 uses Anthem of Guidance then spike. Very high probability of DW. --Spura 07:09, 31 January 2007 (CST)

Lol.... this got nerfed the same way as Eviscerate - and it seemed like they wanted more spear paragons. Tycn 04:03, 20 February 2007 (CST)