Category talk:PvP Builds

I don't understand why there are so many popular builds that aren't here yet (things that people will spam for in HA etc.), some examples being a good Warder or Energy Denial build, or even a list of popular builds that aren't here yet. I would try to work to amend this, but I don't know most of the builds.

Why arent there any warrior builds posted for axe masters that just do insane damage its all of this (use your secondary profession crap) that none even bothers to use normally. So please can some1 tell me a good build for an axe mastery warrior that does a lot of damage!
 * Try this is nice damage but you have no self heals. Sahib 02:43, 8 July 2006 (CDT)

Organizing
Can we split up this category into something like HA builds, GvG builds, TA builds, RA builds, and general single-character PvP builds? Then, in each category (excluding RA and general PvP)we would have both team builds and character builds. What do you think? Of course, we might need more people actually writing up all of these builds to be worth it, but I feel that once we get a large amount of builds this would be very useful. --Theonemephisto 14:49, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Some way of splitting them would be good. I'd much rather have multiple build articles than one article that tries to cover all the PvP types, given how current articles have turned out.  --68.142.14.19
 * most of the people who write and maintain builds, such as myself, are PvE'ers. if you'd like to create and orginize the PvP builds by HA/TA/RA/AB whatever we'd be glad to have the assisstance. category creation is fairly strightforward. simply link to the category like so Category:Hall of Heroes builds and edit the page like a normal article. be sure in include the category in the parent category so it is browsable, like so [Category:Builds]  .  lastly, edit the article you wish to move by changeing  [Category:Builds]  to  . note the locations of the colons in both the link and category inclusion. good luck! --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 14:58, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Strongly agree, PvP builds should be split and we should have RA shock, GvG shock, HA shock for example, they are all pretty different (well maybe not RA and GvG) &mdash; Skuld EDIT: HA builds, not hall of heroes 15:07, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I'd do it but I don't know how. Strongly agree with this idea. Vindexus 15:10, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * full tutorial two comments up silly boy ;) --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 15:17, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Don't worry, I got how to do it. I'll probably start setting up the categories and organizing in a couple horus or so. --Theonemephisto 15:46, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Hmm, I got it (with a couple of mistakes, whoops). However, is it bad that I did the abbreviations for all of the PvP types except for HA?  Should I change Heroe's Ascent to HA or change all the TA, RA, GvG to their respective non-abbriviated forms? --Theonemephisto 17:04, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * use HA, but FFS, lower case on the builds and put a delete tag on the messup so leet people can come fix it [[Image:ST47logo.jpg|User:ST47|50px]] (talk) 17:09, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Use the red links below. --68.142.14.19 17:10, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

Here's what the PvP section of the tree looks like right now (with number of articles in each, though probably out of date; snagged from Galil's page) with the obvious additions italicized (Mephisto has made one or two already):

I'd suggest that putting anything directly in the general PvP builds/PvP team builds category be discouraged. As I said above, I'd rather have multiple articles than one article trying to cover multiple PvP types. If anyone disagrees, speak up, since this is the discussion where we'll decide it, apparently. --68.142.14.19 17:10, 25 July 2006 (CDT) Hmm, I made them all with caps on the Builds. Should I have made them lowercase? I based my caps decision off of the PvP [b]B[/b]uilds, but... i don't know. --Theonemephisto 17:16, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * [:Category:Builds|Builds] (1)
 * Premade builds (32) *same category
 * [:Category:PvP Builds|PvP Builds] (106)
 * Premade builds (32) *same category
 * [:Category:PvP team builds|PvP team builds] (9)
 * TA team builds
 * HA team builds
 * GvG team builds
 * AB team builds
 *  [:Category:RA builds|RA builds] 
 *  [:Category:TA builds|TA builds] 
 *  [:Category:HA builds|HA builds] 
 *  [:Category:GvG builds|GvG builds] 
 *  [:Category:AB builds|AB builds] 
 * Lowercase, heh. You'll notice the "this should be moved to 'PvP builds'" notice on the "PvP Builds" category.  --68.142.14.19 17:17, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

Okay, done. So now, we just have to go through all the builds changing the category to the correct arena. If a build is suited to more than one place, I assume that we should just add both categories? --Theonemephisto 17:56, 25 July 2006 (CDT)


 * If it's clearly suited for just one type (or written with just one type in mind), change the category from PvP builds to the right one. For multiple types, I dunno.  I asked for input on that, heh.  I guess the ways we can do it are either put it in each category, like you just said, or have multiple articles with only one category.  The downside to multiple articles is redundancy.  The downside to multiple categories is builds can be pretty different between PvP types even if they share six of eight skills.  --68.142.14.19 18:05, 25 July 2006 (CDT)


 * I like the idea of linking them to multiple categories if it really does fit but otherwise being redundant. Don't really see a huge problem with the redundancy. --Kryshnysh 18:35, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * did a bunch of sorts. the only things left in the PvP parent category are things i could not determine a home for. i'd ask all you PvPers to review your favorite category and make sure i didn't misclassify. i guessed on a lot of them... --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:17, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

quick rules for PvP cats
because i'm a Librarian/Mesmer, here are some quick rules of thumb for PvP builds: do these correctly summarize the guidelines for these categories? --Honorable Sarah 08:10, 7 August 2006 (CDT)
 * 1) no build should exist in the parent category [:Category:PvP Builds] or [:Category:PvP team builds]
 * 2) builds should have as many of the usage categories as apply [:Category:RA builds] [:Category:TA builds]
 * 3) team builds should exist in one team usage category Category:HA team builds