GuildWiki talk:Requests for adminship/El Nazgir

I think El_Nazzer is a pretty cool guy. eh edits wikis and doesn't afraid of anything. A F K When Needed 16:15, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * You seem to have some spelling/grammar issues though :P It's isn't afraid, and even that's not very true imo, as I can be quite uncertain about lots of things, usually with those involving admin powers (like on Unanswers).--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 16:38, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * You totally missed the joke, I see :P It's a PvX thing. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  16:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm glad someone got it :) A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 16:59, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't frequent PvX any more since a run in with a group of insulting arseholes... Care to explain? --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 17:01, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha! I don't remember exactly where this is from, but I recognize it, too. :) (Reminds me of the Scorpion Wire story. XD) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:17, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 18:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * That userbox should have a link to the original story, I keep losing it. :P RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:32, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Your wish is my command. A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 18:36, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Search "pretty cool guy" on Encyclopedia Dramatica for the real story. I tried to link it, but it's blacklisted. e.e 18:53, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * I improved the second one now. That's perfect atm imo. A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 17:01, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't make me fail this RfA out of spite. >:( [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 06:34, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey! It's not because AFK dragged in a meme that reminded Rose of the scorpion wire, that my Rfa should fail!--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 14:50, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Do it Entropy. There'll be a bureaucratic war. Mayhem. Madness. Sparta, etc.
 * Then in the midst of the carnage I'll be made an Administrator. And that'll solve everything.
 * I'll be demoted in seconds and the community will never have been so united... A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 22:02, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Dunno
As stated on the page, I dunno. I don't think he would make a mess of things, and he seems like a nice guy who gets along with everybody, but why promote him? I mean, the reason Mendel gave (the one where he recalled thinking "He could have done that himself if he had adminpowers"), thats just no reason. Do we really need another admin? I'm not really against, but I am not in the support category. I hope I have given enough explanation why I voted neutral (I wrote this because I am the only one not supporting).

Also, El Nazgir, don't take this personal. It's not about you, or your skills, or your attitude, its just (dunno really what its about, thats why I'm neutral).

Just my 2 cents, Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 20:46, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, tbh, I never really thought of "hey, I'd like to become an admin" or something. I fully understand your views, and if there are too many admins, I'd be the first to voluntarily leave the admin team.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 12:38, October 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * We have fewer active admins than we used to have. The ones we have are quite reliable and are doing a fine job, but I'm not averse to being prepared for worse hiring some backup. -- ◄mendel► 10:51, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mendel, that's also why I voted neutral. I only voted positive on Jonthemon's RFA, because he is really good coding, and shizz, and you can't ever have enough ppl's doing that. But to make and hold peace, we don't need more admins. But since I do like El Nazgir, and think he is made out of the wood they craft admins from, I voted neutral. (Ok, what have I said uptill now, not much :/ ) To summerise things, I don't dissagree the idea of El Nazgir being an admin, I dissagree with just creating more admins. That's not really gonna solve anything. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 07:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then you should change your vote to "support". I'm going to think about rewording the RfA template to make it more clear that you are showing your support for the person (as admin), not the RfA. You would be doing it right by signing for "support" and explaining the "not now" here. -- ◄mendel► 11:55, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * uhh... but surely that's wrong and you are deciding to support (or not) the RfA?
 * Otherwise on El Nazzer's RfA I'd have gone to Support and signed with He's my friend. Yarr. ~  A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 16:35, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mendel, good point. I will change my stance. I will do the same on Roses, but only if you are gonna make something the change you mentioned.
 * Also, AFK, I don't do nepotism (yes I had to look that up). Friend or foe, I try to treat them ecually fair. And if that means opposing, or being neutral, so be it. Bein my friend doesn't cut it, you have to qualiefy, and El Nazgir passes. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 18:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * ...wat?
 * That response was clearly aimed at Mendel, tbh A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 18:44, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * O.O FAIL!!1! Sorry AFK, I think I'm just tired. Ignore it, please. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 18:48, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, that's me. Looking over it again it's not obvious in the slightest.
 * My apologies. A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 18:52, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * By signing the "community support" section, you are stating whether you are ok with that person being an admin. Whether we need admins now is a different issue. -- ◄mendel► 21:42, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I dunno...
Seeing how powerless I was (still am) during real wikidrama on w:c:UnAnswers, where I am an admin, I'm not sure whether this actually is such a good idea. I'm beginning to think about withdrawing more and more...--El_Nazgir 17:05, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as I'm concerned (and I think this jives with mendel's "admin qualities" thingamajob), being an admin isn't about being a mediator. You don't have to be an admin for that.  Being an admin is about del/prot/ban and being able to make the required judgments for applying those abilities.  Just look at me: I suck at mediating (actually, I try to avoid conflict at all costs), but I like to think I'm a damn good admin.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 18:17, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * You are a damn good admin, but that is (mainly) because of qualities I all lack. I know nothing of coding at all, which is (I think) one of your main qualities. I'm very prudent with making decisions involving other users, and often just don't know what to do, while an admin with no other qualities than mine should be able to make decisions like that.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 19:22, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you're underestimating yourself. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 00:13, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * As a disinterested 3rd party *cough* I think you performed pretty exceptionally well in a very difficult situtation. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:43, December 9, 2009 (UTC)