GuildWiki talk:Armor galleries project/Archive

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Who would want a male necro :p &mdash; Skuld  04:23, 22 June 2006 (CDT)

Nice, I wanted to do a list like that myself, for personal reference, but yours is a lot neater than any I would've done. :) The armor galleries (or rather the lack thereof) is something that's bothering me for quite some time now. I hope there'll be a lot more in the near future. How do you think about adding the other professions? Even if you won't be updating those, other people may and it would be nice to have one whole list for reference. --84-175  (talk) 04:47, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I put in stub sections, as to leave no doubt to my intent of including all classes :) In case you might have some wrong impression, I'll do my best to fill in missing galleries, but do not plan to do all of them &mdash; I am fully aware that I am only human :P -- Ledrug 19:34, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Oh, you are? Dang! And here I thought we had the solution for our armor gallery problem at hands... No, seriously, I'm well aware that one single person cannot possibly complete all armor galleries. You're not alone, though. ;) --84-175 (talk) 19:40, 22 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Nice work. Some of my chars have some of the missing galleries, but my characters do not strip. :) --Karlos 03:55, 23 June 2006 (CDT)

I've got Female Mesmer Canthan 15K (except Mask), Female Assassin Kurzick 15K and Female Necromancer Tormentor's 15K which, according to your list, are missing partly or totally. If you want to get screenshots to complement the galleries, just contact me in game. --Theeth (talk)   20:57, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Great, I'll see if I can find you in a short while -- Ledrug 21:00, 25 June 2006 (CDT)

Added Female Monk Kurzick Armor, feel free to scratch that off your list. :) &mdash; Galil  01:19, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Did Female Necro Luxon Armor too, but then my list of chars whose armors aren't listed is very empty. So keep up the good work! &mdash; Galil  01:47, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Done :) I cropped those images and formated the two galleries also. -- Ledrug 02:14, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Looks better now yeah, I just went with the inconsistency of Monk Kurzick Armor/Male. :p &mdash; Galil  02:28, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

I have a couple of sets of female 15k tyria tattoos, i'll try get round to doing those at some point &mdash; Skuld  05:33, 6 July 2006 (CDT)

15k Druid (male) done for ya :) -Auron  00:34, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Update... Warrior Ascended Kurzick section finished, including colorable areas on male armor. Oh, and male ele fissure armor (dyed) has been added. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|||My Talk]] 03:05, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Updated Male Canthan Warrior 15k some time ago. --84-175 (talk) 04:36, 3 September 2006 (CDT)

Now it looks pretty :) I found a template I like for armor pages, and it organizes pictures quite well. Thanks for your images, 84, I included most of them in the newly-templated version, I just filled in a pose or two with my war. But before I do more armor-page editing, I'd like to know if there's some kind of pre-set template for armor pages. I don't want to re-do loads of work simply because I was ignorant of the "accepted" template. -Auron  01:39, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
 * I assume you mean a template for the armor galleries? Because the armor pages thenself indeed do have a template, which should be in place at all of them already. See Style and formatting/Armor and the corresponding Talk page. The guidelines for Galleries there are pretty vague and so far there are as many different templates for the galleries as there are users editing them (although all look quite alike). You should creating an example page of your template and put it up for discussion here (that topic definitely needs to be revived). --84-175 (talk) 02:21, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Yes, my mistake, I mis-used "template." I took a stab at breathing life into that thread, but it's so buried that I fear nobody will uncover it and put forth their ideas. I mean, how many people stumble onto "guildwiki talk, style and formatting, armor, gallery standardization?" You'd have to be pretty lucky. May I be as bold as to suggest a more public view of the issue, so users can discuss, vote (if necessary) and carry out the standardized armor formatting? -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|||My Talk]] 05:43, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

I have a Dervish Female Primeval set, if someone wants to take screen shots contact me in game. --Theeth (talk)   23:00, 18 November 2006 (CST)

Your Tick
May I make use of your tick icon on my builds page? --Ab.Er.Rant 23:29, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
 * [[Image:Yes.png|16px]] :) -- Ledrug 23:36, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Thanks! XD --Ab.Er.Rant 23:44, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

Moving to project
Since this is belong to a user page and that user have been away from the wiki for a long time and this would be a good project for the community to take, I wonder if admin can give tell me if I can move it. I know that what people summit to wiki are free to use but the right to user page always trouble me.&mdash; ├ A ratak  ┤  12:01, 23 October 2006 (CDT)
 * It is right that a user's namespace is usually considered off-limits to edits from other users. However, I wouldn't apply this rule to a reference list like this one. It has already been used by the public anyway (although it was edited by Ledrung himself only, until recently). I agree that making this a project in the main wiki namespace is a good idea and will perform the move myself. If Ledrung disagrees, should he come back, we can always revert. :) --84-175 (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

Gray base color
I think we should make all main images and icons with the current original grey dye, and make all the other pictures 'alternate' views, romoving no longer possible colors. Mithran 18:10, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * A good idea, but a long project. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 02:27, 31 October 2006 (CST)


 * A good idea for eventual goal, but in the mean time, if we don't have the gray color image, and there are two colored images, we should keep both colors. Having the contrast of different colors to see which parts are affected by the dye is the most important thing. - 02:36, 31 October 2006 (CST)


 * Yeh, ofcourse don't remove images before the new version have been uploaded. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 04:23, 31 October 2006 (CST)
 * Sure, look like a good idea but since most gallery, even some profecies armor, are not even finish, I doubt that changing them all to grey will be easy. Maybe if we make this easier to find. I know that we have a task list but I don't think is easy to find and most user never see it.  I seen active user talking about something like that on talk page and never realise it already exited.&mdash; ├ A  ratak  ┤  22:12, 31 October 2006 (CST)
 * Currently we have 'Yes', 'No', and 'Maybe'. We should use...:
 * 'Yes' for the ones that are completed, with main pictures and inventory icons in grey base color, showing separate parts and colorable areas, with at least one alternate color other than grey to help the user see the difference.
 * 'No' for the ones that have missing overview image or invetory icons.
 * And 'Maybe' for the ones that have images, but they are:
 * Overview or image icons not in grey base color.
 * Poor image quality.
 * Images in really bad size (too big, too small, wrong proportions, etc...)
 * Sets with non-uniform colors (not the same color in all parts, they should be removed if there are any).
 * Do not show separated parts (the "head, hads, legs" and "torso, feet" pictures).
 * Only one color, so do not show colorable areas.
 * Mithran 09:21, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * I don't think we should redo all the galleries. If we have one basic gallery and one other to compare the color, I consider them done.  Sine most armor cost a lot and we dont even have gallery for all of them.  I think the priority shouldnt be putting effort on gray color armor and finish the gallery.  So your proposal is good but I dont think that the lack of a gray gallery make them a maybe.&mdash; ├ A  ratak  ┤  21:31, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * Well it's not to redo all of them, but the one possible, and remember that grey dye is the cheaper, we could pay some people to pose with some othe colors. We pay the dye, you get the cash. We could add a fourth catogory... what a bout No, Myabe, Yes and finally... PERFECT? Mithran 22:03, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * If you want to reevaluate the galleries with your system, I don't see any problem. It's just a lot of work :( O well, I'll start spamming "LF models" in LA.&mdash; ├ A  ratak  ┤  22:12, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Ah, don't mind me here. Just trying to help out a bit. ...Anyways, the male ritualist Kurzick armor has been without pictures for a while now... I've just bought the armor myself, and I'll have some nice, plain-grey screencaps up there for you in just a little bit. Buying armor and whatnot isn't my strong point, but if there's anything else that you guys need, drop me a line, I'm always glad to help. Jioruji Derako 22:39, 26 December 2006 (CST)

Dye preview for headgear?
I'm thinking, that using the Dye preview box for close up headgear images would be good, since it allow for a more close up view of the details, however the background smoke can prove to be a problem. I was even thinking, that we should split the component view into single armor parts and use the dye preview, if not even change the whole colorable areas section to that... but I got over it ^^: Sill, what about the headgears? &mdash; Poki#3, 01:53, 9 January 2007 (CST)


 * Style and formatting/Armor/Art gallery should answer most of your questions. Look at some of the Mesmer galleries if you need examples. - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 02:22, 9 January 2007 (CST)


 * I already read that. What I'm getting at, is that the Dye Preview allows for a closer up view, then the normal camera zooming. The Mesmer Masks are quite big, but some of the Necromancer scars for instance would probably be too small to show the details, unless someone has an 19 inch monitor, for a High resolution... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 02:40, 9 January 2007 (CST)


 * Well one question that occurs to me is why would someone want to see closer than you can yourself see in game? Like, if you want to see the mask from two inches away, what's the point? Because you will never see it in game, nor will anyone else. o_O There are ways to get a closer view that the camera usually allows, without resorting to that. I don't know how good the lighting is in the preview window, or if it is a neutral colour. And it doesn't matter what size your monitor is, or what resolution you use, screenshots always show the same size. Another point I would like to raise, is why we need to show every pixel of detail. There are plenty of points of interest on every armor art, but documenting each one would be silly. The current system is more than adequate. - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 03:13, 9 January 2007 (CST)


 * True enough... Well... I made some screens for the Female Assassin Ancient Armor, but that was just before the S&F came to be :( You think I should re-take the images of the mask? ...though I don't have any money for the Dyes -_- &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 04:18, 9 January 2007 (CST)


 * Nah that's fine. It's completely acceptable to do that if you wish, but either way is fine. Lighting looks okay. I'd just stick to the normal ones (I can show you a good place to take them in the Battle Isles) so that the images all match but I'm crazy that way. I would suggest though cropping them until they're size ratio is 6:7 (eg 150w x 175h - I usually go into photoshop and use the default size and make a blank picture and resize it to the desired size, then use that as a guide to crop the armor pic). There's a lot of dead space in those. - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 04:41, 9 January 2007 (CST)

Good??
I did studded ranger armor for male, did i do it good enough?? If not plz remove the tick. -- 15:31, 26 January 2007 (CST)
 * They look good but I feal the background should be in a lighter color. Also you could use the template to follow the same naming patern then the other galleries.&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  20:45, 29 January 2007 (CST)

I did the Male Ele Ascended Canthan, and I was wondering if it is acceptable. I realize the background may of not been the best, and I can go change it. I have more armors that I can post up, and If I can get some feedback on that one, it will help me out for the rest. Also, where is the location that most of the shots are taken. I tried many places on the Isle of the namless, but I could not find a perfect spot. Thanks. Moiax 20:02, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * Bexor has a video of her doing armor screenshots (in the "Misc" section of her userpage). It looks a lot like the northernmost beach on Isle of the Nameless, and she gets the characters to stand still using /attention.  &mdash; [[Image:Fin_sig.gif|User:Kyrasantae]] kyrasantae   20:18, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * Image capturing tips for more info.&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  20:45, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * You misnamed all of the pictures as "Cathan". Make sure you use the template, as it generates the names for you automatically (as long as you enter it correctly the first time). The template and how to use it can be found on the s&f page. You were very close to the location I use, and you're facing the right way. I'll post a small map after this. Also you should turn post process effects off because it tints the light and blurs thing, and make sure your pictures are 200x600 or a variant of that size (if you use photoshop you can test sizes by making a blank image of that size and resizing it to get the correct height and width). This is because the profession index creates gallery thumnbails automatically and we want them all to be the same size. It's not a rule that you have to stand to attention, but it helps a lot because it squares the character off and makes the pictures smaller and easier to crop to the right ratio. Also ignore my crappy build, I just made that character (6 hrs old). :P - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 22:39, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * Image:Bex-Map.jpg 120kb-ish sorry. The spot I use has a slope where your camera is positioned. This means it's higher than usual (the ground) because my mouse at least only scrolls in clicks in GW. It's good because then you aren't looking at your character from too high or too low. :) - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 23:01, 29 January 2007 (CST)

Um.. I just redid the Paragon Ancient Armor Male gallery. I realise I didn't do the best the first time, hadn't done an armor gallery before. But I posted to have my old images deleted and read through all the guides, how and where to take better quality pictures etc. I THINK I've done it right, but knowing me I've probably screwed something up >.< any thoughts? --Blobulator 17:12, 2 February 2007 (CST)
 * Looks good to me. I changed the profession index image to yours as well. It says you're using Photoshop 7 (like me :D). Make sure you use ctrl + alt + shift + s (save as for web). It cuts out the metadata and makes the files very small. I save mine as jpg with a quality of 60 (high I think). - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 23:57, 2 February 2007 (CST)
 * Ah ok, well I'll try to remember to save them like that for the future. Thanks :) --Blobulator 01:22, 3 February 2007 (CST)
 * Well I just did the Elementalist Ascended Aeromancer's Armor/Male with all the proper shots I think, and tried doing that "Save for the web" thing. There were a few random shots though of different colours against different backgrounds and things. I wasn't sure what to do with them so I put a delete notice on them? Although one of them linked to the Elementalist armor section. So I'm not sure :/ ignore those delete notices if needed I wasn't sure what to do about them. Anyway just wanted to make sure I'd saved the images right.. (Um also, bit confused as why they appear on the separate page just for male, but not on the page for both male and female? o.0)--Blobulator 17:15, 3 February 2007 (CST)
 * To put delete notices on those pictues was good, if they are not used anywhere else, and they aren't :) I fixed that picture that was used on Elementalist armor since yours is better. I'm not sure what you mean with that last question, what appear on the male page but not on.. what page? &mdash; Stylva  (talk)(contribs) 17:30, 3 February 2007 (CST)
 * Well whenever I go here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elementalist_Ascended_Aeromancer%27s_Armor - all I see in the male section is the old images with the delete notices. But when I go here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elementalist_Ascended_Aeromancer%27s_Armor/Male - I see the new pics. Maybe it's just my comp's memory acting up or something. Not sure >.< Nevermind, cleared the files my comp had stored in offline content. Works fine now >.< sorry about that --Blobulator 17:32, 3 February 2007 (CST)

I just re-did the Assassin Imperial Armor/Female section. I followed all the instructions everyone gave me: save for web, /attention, etc. If someone could check it out, I would appreciate it. I'm going to go fix all the references to the old pictures before I mark them for deletion. Thanks for the help. Moiax 16:47, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * They are miss name :( The template takes F or M not Female or male.  If you don't want to reupload you just have to make the gallery by hand.  Just see this page for the basic syntax.&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  17:50, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * Damn, I knew that too. I must have gotten confused when I was using the template for some reason.Moiax 20:47, 4 February 2007 (CST)

Well I've redone the Elementalist Ascended Aeromancer's Armor Male and Elementalist Kurzick Armor Male, after all the stuff I talked about in the Accidental Misnaming bit below. Wondering if they're completed properly now? I used the template format this time, someone else fixed up the one I did of Paragon Ancient Armor male from the Syntax to the template for me since I was using syntax. Anyway used the template this time on both, hoping it's right :/ --Blobulator 02:35, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Accidental misnaming...
I just realised that when I did the Elementalist Ascended Aeromancer's Armor/Male and Elementalist Kurzick Armor/Male, that I accidently left out the word Armor in all the images names. Is there any easy way to fix this? Will it be an issue? Or would I have to have them all deleted then reuploaded? --Blobulator 20:07, 3 February 2007 (CST)
 * There is no way to moved file, only reuploading them and marking the old one for deletion. To be sure to have the gallery right you can use the template.  See here on how to use it : Template&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  22:53, 3 February 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah I used the guide there, that small template bit confused me though :/ but when I was copying and pasting "Elementalist Kurzick" over and over for example, for some reason I kept accidently overwriting the word armor too >.< so that was an error on my part :/ I guess I'll go put them up for deletion and reupload, thanks for the info :) --Blobulator 23:49, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * Well I redid the Elementalist Kurzick Armor and Elementalist Ascended Aeromancer's Armor with the template, I think I get it now. If I didn't do it right please tell me. --Blobulator 00:16, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Better this time??
I did Warrior Male Canthan i think its good now, isnt it? -- 07:09, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * For me, they're a bit too small, and there is definetly to much nothingness to the right and left of the Warrior :( &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 17:10, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * Armor should be in a 200×550 (4:11)or 175×525 (1:3), well anything that keep one of those 2 ratios.  Also headgear should be 6:7 ratio.&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  17:37, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah but i couldnt come closer to my character with zooming in. --80.127.222.217 05:35, 5 February 2007 (CST)
 * Zoom it as much as you can (FPP view), next, zoom it out a bit (2 clicks if i remember correctly) so that your whole char will be seen (don't chop the boots :P) and them maneuver the camera to the ground by holding the right mouse button. By doing the last part, you can move the camera along the ground a bit closer to you then normally possible. Your feet should be barely above the bottom of your game window. Chop them if your image editor of choice ^^; &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 08:27, 5 February 2007 (CST)
 * Have you watched the video I made? I stand in a spot where there is a slight slope in front of the character and put the camera on the ground and get in as close as possible. Because the slope is in front of me the camera height is still even with the character's stomach. - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 09:04, 5 February 2007 (CST)
 * Ok thx for the tips, i will try that next time then :-D --[[image:questbrod.png]] 09:07, 5 February 2007 (CST)

April Fools
Anyone know a spot in one of the affected areas where we can pose for screenshots? If there's a spot, I can do male versions of each of my contributions. Craw   12:14, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Ranger Ancient Armor
I have ranger ancient armor if someone in charge wants to do screen shots and stuff i noticed the cross Necromantic Biscuit 06:22, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * You have to do them. Other people see lower quality models. &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 10:08, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * No that is not true Poki. The game do not render every armor in town to their max resolution since it would have to render 50+ armor but out side town it will render it to full texture.  I did several armor this way.  The only think is it can be hard is if his char is small it can look like the shot were taken from a wrong angle.  Biscuit you can contact me in game ( Micha Truefaith) and Ill help you.&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  15:33, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Aratak is technically correct, but the image is always centered easier to pose if you take them yourself. the gimp is a fine image editing program for this purpose. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 15:54, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I wouldn't trust the person who took this screenshot;)&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  16:02, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * so i have a crap video card, are you going to hold it against me? --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:06, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Of course not. I like you, was just mad because you screwed up my name ;) &mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  16:14, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * ;p --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 16:34, 6 May 2007 (CDT)