Talk:Aggressive Refrain

So this is basically an unlinked skill? There's gonna be some kind of downside to it, or W/P will be using this with "Watch Yourself!" at 0 Tactics. Sure, Warriors have a hard time with the initial cost, but tell me it wouldn't be worth it... 149.169.109.183 19:46, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Yeah plus you just cast this before battle in say team battles. And just have a paragon chanting for no particular reason to keep it up. (Not a fifty five 14:28, 26 September 2006 (CDT))
 * Because at 25e, 15% DP will render it useless.172.143.33.145 19:37, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Just like with avatar of Melandru, you bring a high energy set for when you have DP. --Fyren 19:44, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

Good thing Rangers and Necros get some dedicated Shout/Chant hate. --RolandOfGilead 14:55, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

Now duration varies with attribute lvl. Can be maintained almost indefinitely with "Watch Yourself" at 0 tactics, "Go for the Eyes" and Devona shouting "Charge!" for instance

This skill can be useful for ranger primaries that have around 12 in expertise.
 * No it can't, because Expertise does not affect Echos. Arshay Duskbrow 07:01, 14 February 2007 (CST)

lmao lasting 5 at 0 leadership and then costing 25e? I dont think so buddy.

Ever notice that para's cast this at the beginning of a match and then never recast it? It's a pretty darn good skill if you ask me: cast once at the beginning, Go for the Eyes and Anthem of Flame are all you need. Anooneemiss 00:14, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

How does head piece swapping affect this? If u have 11 in leadership and a +4 leadership head piece it lasts 25 seconds. If u then swap to a spear mastery head piece and refresh it, would it last 21 (or 20 if u have no minor rune) or 25 seconds? 77.241.133.175 16:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)