User talk:Dr ishmael/Archive 1

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E/any Dual Attunement Nuker
if you look at the talk page of that build, you'll see it has been deleted once before. please be sure your new build can stand to the pre-existing comments. --Honorable Sarah 13:45, 22 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Yeah, I noticed that after I posted the article. I'm pretty sure my build can stand to those comments, though - it's not for AB, I don't use Mark of Rodgort, and it's sufficiently different from the Heavy Nuker (IMO).  Dr ishmael 13:54, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

Editing
Hi. When editing your user page, please use the 'minor edit' check box. Also, you might want to use the 'Show preview' button more often. -- (talk) 19:41, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

Signature
Just looking at your signature bit in your sandbox. I've just been playing around with mine. You know you can put the bit in the "Signature" bit of your preferences, then just use ~, which will add the date automatically? You probably already know but just in case, will save you some time on talk pages :) —Biscuits (talk contribs) 11:26, 21 November 2006 (CST)


 * I had wondered about that. Thanks for the tip. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] (talk|contribs) 11:41, 21 November 2006 (CST)

dont add quests to acqu
it was decided to not add quest data to the acquisition sections on skill pages. "You're All Alone!" Magehunter's Smash Xeon 20:36, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Category:Collectors format standardization campaign
While doing research for my User:Dr ishmael/Collectable trading article, I noticed that a lot of the collector and collectable drops pages had inconsistencies and even errors in both their content and formatting. I corrected some of these, but only where it was obvious; I know there are still a lot of problems.

Since the collectors already have a style guide, I'm going to work on them first - I plan to find them all in-game and verify all their info, as well, since I already noticed a few that were incorrect. When that's done, I'll write a style guide for collectable drops (adding it to the Items style guide) and work them over as well. &mdash;Dr Ishmael (talk|contribs) 12:10, 1 February 2007 (CST)


 * Cheers, and you work too hard. :) Entropy 15:45, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Clarifying 1RV misunderstanding
"Reverting" a page is to restore it to its previous state. Therefore, if you make a new change to a text, and this change is reverted, it does not constitute a breach of the 1RV policy. mikkel 15:04, 11 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Right: If you find your edit was reverted, take your case to the article's talk page. (from GW:1RV) You made the revert, so I can't revert back.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] (talk|contribs) 15:30, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

Re: Disambiguation
Click-ity click! --Ishmaeel .ping ; .peek; 10:21, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

cats
check the categories before you remove a stub. -- Xeon 10:25, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Vanquisher
Hi, on the vanquisher page, stating that you are 'completing' a quest seems redundant since that tab is only for quests that affect the number of enemies... hence while the quest is active and whether or not you are completing it. It should be in a similar format as all the other quests. Rcollins779x 18:32, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Greetings. I noticed you reverted a change someone made on the Vanquisher page regarding Bukdek Byway. Whoever changed this to one is correct. If you have both The Drunken Master and Chasing Zenmai active, all you need to do to vanquish this zone is to defeat the Drunken Master. I have verified this, as it is how I vanquisher Bukdek. -- Ale 13:19, 30 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Oh, I get it now. The way they made the edit didn't make any sense because they didn't make it link correctly to the quests.  I'd forgotten about the "The Drunken Master" quest, and thought they were just being funny making it say "Zenmai and Drunken Master".
 * Still, as that is a special case, it should be mentioned in a footnote like the one for Zen Daijun. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 17:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I agree, a footnote is probably best, but your Summary note said "Huh?" so I wasn't sure if you knew about the special case. Cheers. --[[Image:Flask_Of_Firewater_small.jpg]] Ale 18:08, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

Sortability at Collecting for fun and profit
Please see my response at that talk page, and thank you for commenting. 15:42, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

EotN and Collectors
I was wondering if you were working on another section to the "Collecting for fun and profit", for EotN collectors. Since all of EotN is "L20 high end campaign", all the collector items are by default maxed. However, I was not sure if any/all gave profit for collecting (since I don't actually have it yet >.>)...no unique collectables other than the Armors are available, so for me the only reason I have to keep and collect EotN drops is if I can make some cash profit. Otherwise I would just trade in stuff from other campaigns, since that's easier... (T/C) 00:43, 16 September 2007 (CDT)


 * Nope, Anet made sure there was absolutely no profit in collectibles this time. All collectibles are worth at least 20g to the merchant, all collectors want at least 5 of an item, and all collector items are only worth 100g.  The best you can do is break even.  Unless some odd item like Aged Dwarven Ale has a really high market value for some reason, there won't be an EotN section to that article.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 11:43, 16 September 2007 (CDT)


 * Aww, damn. Well thanks for checking. I can finally go sell off all those collectable drops I got in the Sneak Preview Weekend. >.> (except for Superb Charr Carving, lol) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 11:45, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

Interwikis
Hello. GuildWiki has recently updated its interwiki map. This means that w: now points to Wikia instead of to Wikipedia. You have one of these links on your user page. You can change it to point at Wikipedia by changing the w: to wikipedia:. Angela 07:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Just want to thank you for the effort you put into the weapon QRs. Unfortunately, the only thing I have to offer in appreciation is Lyssa's Cookie of Bemusement. Even though what you didn't isn't funny at all (in fact, it's very serious), I hope you'd accept a cookie as a token of my appreciation. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 19:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Considering how I have absolutely nothing to do at work right now - and may not for a while, we've been slow all month - my brain was eventually going to melt out my ears anyway. It was either do this or keep playing Free Rice all day, and I think I've donated enough rice already this month...  Anyway, thanks for the cookie!  I made a userbox for it. :D  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to say that you've been doing more work lately than the rest of us combined. Thank you. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * o: All done, great job there. =) J Striker 08:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Special:Newpages 'Nuff said. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 06:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Here's the official appreciation: Lyssa's Toast of Appreciation. Same effects though, cuz I kind of lumped all the cool effects I can think of into one big package already. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 23:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot Mode.. Disabled (Concise descriptions)
Hehe, nice job with all of the concise descriptions. :) &mdash; Warw/Wick 12:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Bot mode, wha? >.> Just another case where I was momentarily bored with playing the game, browsing the wiki, noticed something missing, and decided I'd add it.  And I do kinda go into a "bot mode" mentally with tasks like this, or the weapons QR project... which I need to finish up soon... right after I finish this... <.<  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, question: I noticed that some people who'd already added concise descriptions had wikified them, while others didn't. My opinion is that everything's already wikified in the standard description, so there's no need to wikify the concise one as well.  Was there a discussion on this somewhere that I should read? &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Drat, while you're adding the concide descriptions it's not updating the Category:Skills_missing_concise_description category correctly, 'suppose I'll be making some null edits to update the category. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 18:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe that's happening because the skill articles get that cat from the skill template, within which the cat is only specified in an parser function.  I think I read somewhere that the wiki should update stuff like that once per day, but I dunno if Wikia has it set up that way or not. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Good work! And no, there hasn't been a discussion (that I know of), but since as far as I know the general rule is one link to a specific thing in an article, only the full description would have the links. --Shadowcrest 18:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's usually 1 link per section, but both descriptions are still in the same section. That's what I'm going with then. I won't bother de-wikifying ones that already have it, though. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh crap, I really screwed up. The coding includes any page that the template is included on, including using templates that are transcluded by another template.. Dammit! &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 19:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bah, I'm relying too much on Firefox's auto-complete to fill in the edit note. So if anyone sees weird notes (like the one on Oppressive Gaze saying the concise description is identical), just ignore them. ^^; &mdash;Dr Ishmael  20:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Whew... All player-usable skills (including all PvE skills, temporary PvE skills except for Category:Allegiance Title skills and three of the Celestial Skills (monk, mesmer, assassin), and the Bonus Mission Pack skills except for Spectral Agony (hex) (I didn't feel like playing all the way through that one right now)) have a concise description. Big thanks to Jedi Rogue, Progger, Organism X, Theruon, and everyone else who had already added some - if you people hadn't started it, I never would've. And with that, I die for the night. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 07:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

hey (Concise - why wikify)
I got more info on the concise stuff. But I have to find it. But I do know that it said to wikify stuff in the concise descriptions; it'll make sense when I find the post. --Shadowcrest 00:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Found it. Read Jedi's posts here. --Shadowcrest  00:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Fudgemuffins. *grumblegrumble* &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, I don't expect you to go back through all the ones you've done and correct them :P --Shadowcrest  01:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate to do a job half-assed, even if I didn't realize it at the time. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 01:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd finished E, W, and most of R before you posted about this, and since then I was able to go back through all of them and wikify the concise descriptions. While doing so, I also took the liberty to standardize the wikification of both forms of skill description:
 * I left out links for terms like foe, damage, attack, etc. These are really basic things that anyone playing GW should already know, and they were already un-linked most of the time anyway.
 * I enforced wikification of Energy, since it was almost always linked, and I added links for adrenaline, which wasn't usually linked, because it is also "fuel" for skills, just like Energy is.
 * I fixed the capitalization of terms in the standard description after I noticed they were screwed up. In-game, Energy, Health, and condition names are nearly always capitalized, and other terms like spirit, skill, spell are hardly ever capitalized.  However, I noticed Spirit, Spell, and Skill (among others) capitalized quite often in the descriptions here.  Did they used to be capitalized and Anet changed it?
 * I enforced one-link-per-section within the standard descriptions. Most Nature Rituals had Spirit linked every time it appeared for some reason, and a lot of skills with both primary and bonus damage would have damage linked twice.
 * I'm gonna crash now, but I'll be back on this tomorrow. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 06:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, the monk skills seem to have a 50/50 split on wikifying heal. Since Heal redirects to Health, and most descriptions have both anyway, I wonder if this one really needs to be wikified. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 17:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Btw what's wrong with placing the concise description on the bottom of the template code? -- -- talkpage 16:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nothing wrong with it exactly, it just makes more sense for it to directly follow the full description - especially when I'm comparing the wikification. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah ok, I'll think of it if I add more of them in the future. Luckily I did it right with the prot skills. --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 16:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Editing Concise descriptions too? ;)
greetings theruon 18:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict - I demand your comment stay! XD) Yep. I'm going through by the standard profession order, and I'm double-checking everything that already has it, too. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm using the Category:Skills_missing_concise_description in the alphabetic order. Thanks to an edit of yours on one of my Skills - Castigation Signet - I'm going through them again - Wikifying >.< theruon 19:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Make sure you're using correct capitalization, too - I notice you capitalized "Skill" in you comment there, so I thought I'd mention it. I'm seeing a lot of normal descriptions that have capitalized words that shouldn't be, as I noted in the above section.  I haven't seen this in any of the concise descriptions (I haven't been looking at who added each one) yet, but just in case. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I usually don't capitalize anything, but when I do, I capitalize too much... But as I am just transcribing the descriptions from my guild's Priest of Balthazar that won't be a problem. theruon 19:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Coolies. I'll be watching for the inevitable edit conflicts when we cross paths. ;) &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That won't be a problem 'today' - my bed is waiting ;) theruon 20:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Star
RT | Talk  20:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, keep up the good work.[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]reanor 19:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thirded --[[Image:Progr.png]] -- talkpage 23:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, thanks everyone. I've still got the PvE-only skills to do to finish the "equippable" skills, but that won't take long.  Oh yeah - I can't do the Kurzick/Luxon skills because I don't have enough faction with either one, so someone else will have to do those. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You're amazing. Lost-Blue 02:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Kurzick/Luxon skills are done ;)[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]reanor 17:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Credit
You thought I wouldn't find out? Where's my credit for the userpage rip off? lolreanor 19:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I just forgot. ^^; Of course, I've modified the tabs enough that they aren't all that much like yours anymore, although the layout of the main page still is.  I'll still put a little "inspired by" note in there. ;)  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool! Thanks.[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 15:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

more consise work
monster skills won't show up in the needs concise cat because they have a nocats attribute. If you want to add concise descriptions to monster skills, that would probably be more useful than what you're currently doing. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 22:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know about those, but they'll require me actually going out and finding the monsters in order to screenshot the skills... unless this other idea works out. All in-game text is stored as Unicode text within gw.dat, so it's just a matter of finding the descriptions and then matching them up to the right skills, which shouldn't be too difficult.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Whoo! I now have concise descriptions for 99.6% of everything in the game (2302 total skills/effects/etc that I found in gw.dat).  I'm gonna have lunch, then start adding them to the wiki. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay
Thanks for clarifying your position to me. I've made you into the official House-Cleaning Admin. Welcome to the team. Also, please add yourself to the admin info page at your convenience. Thanks, and happy hunting. :) (T/C) 03:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, less than a week ago I hadn't really thought about becoming an admin, but then Gigathrash put up the RfA, I had an email convo with Entropy, and now here I am. It's been a crazy few days, that's for sure.
 * Thanks for giving me the opportunity to serve the wiki in this capacity. I'll continue making mainspace contributions, of course (the weapon QRs and CSDs for monster skills still need to be finished...), but I suppose now I'll dedicate most of my time to deleting the hordes of unused images and the other "housekeeping" that needs to be done (while I don't particularly want to be known as the GWiki Janitor, I guess that's pretty much what I volunteered for XD).
 * Is there any sort of "admin guide" that I should look at - something that explains the sysop tools, etc.? Also, what will be expected of me outside of the janitorial duties?  I'll take care of my admin info in the morning, right now I need to crash.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Suggestion: create an account called "IshmaelDr" or something, and experiment your powers upon that defenseless shoe of yours. Or go make your personal sandboxs and play with deletion and protection etc.  As for expected duties, I expect you to come up with something clever for next year's April Fools.  Or else, you shall learn of the consequences of my disappointment on that fateful day!!!  Oh yeah, and my laundry. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 09:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You've been Adminated
Grats man! Hope you put em to good use. --Powersurge360 03:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You're
Welcome, have fun being a pillar of our community!--<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ Talk 23:45, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, thanks to you I get to clean up all you guys' messes now. :P &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 21:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the fact that you withdrew, and Entropy then gave you the powers <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  21:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It happened because of an email conversation I had with her afterwards. I wanted to clarify some things and get a better explanation of what she said in her vote, and it ended up with her asking if I'd like to help with these housekeeping duties, and I basically said, "Sure!".  And so far today, I've been too busy digging the concise skill descriptions out of gw.dat that I've completely neglected all that. XD I'll get some done this evening, though.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 21:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, you might want to bookmark Category:Candidates for deletion + Category:Candidates for banning, just in case, imo, keep doing what your doing, and if you see something that could benefit with the tools, use em <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  21:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, copying User:Entropy/monobook.js to your /monobook.js is useful tool for such tasks. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * A fraction late but congrats, not entirely sure what the, "I have spoken to the user privately and this is going to be a special case." means as I haven't been around but I'm sure it's all good. I've actually been RC patrolling a bit today but you wouldn't know it as I haven't actually edited anything yet... Every contribution in the last two hours seems to be from someone I don't know editing another person I don't knows user page!! :/ So it's nice to see someone I recognise even if I still don't know what's going on! --Xasxas256 02:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My .js is a viable alternative to yours though, mine puts that topbar to use --Gimmethegepgun 02:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't Forget
To delete the pages you left behind Mr. Admin. --Powersurge360 03:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd probably leave the old pages, they fall under "Incorrect capitalizations" on GW:REDIRECT and they were previous official spellings. Also saves a whole lot of broken redirects. --Xasxas256 03:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I was thinking. In fact, I was surprised that "Destructive Was Glaive" didn't already exist as a redirect.  I fixed all links to the template, so I'll delete that, and the old image itself, but I'll leave the old article and the image page as redirects. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 03:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

You're
really a doctor? <font color ="#73C2FB" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 04:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah, I chickened out of the PhD program. XD Realized that research, as done at a university, wasn't something I enjoyed.  I'd already done enough work for a Master's, so at least I had something to show for two years of grad school.
 * I got the nickname waaaay back in high school, actually. It was completely random - a friend of mine, who had just decided that he would be known for the day as "Doctor Bobo" (I think from MST3K), decided that I needed a nickname too, so he dubbed me "Ishmael" (from Moby Dick).  He then granted me the title of "doctor" so that we would be equal partners in "Dr. Bobo and Dr. Ishmael's Fried Pickle Stand."  (We were monitoring a room at All-Region Band tryouts, and we were very, very bored.)  For some incomprehensible reason, my nickname stuck. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL <font color ="#73C2FB" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 23:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

GO TO BED
You've been working so hard for so long, I'm tired just watching you work lol <font color ="#73C2FB" size="3px" face ="mistral">Lost-Blue 05:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Bah, you should see me writing Perl scripts at work. The only reason I can stop working at 5 is because I'm salaried, meaning I don't get paid for overtime.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

unused images
If you ever come across an unused image that might be useful for something, add it to Non-orphaned images. Sometimes there is an unused image that's rather nice that I always feel like I don't want to delete because it might be useful later to someone. Just thought I'd pass that on to you. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 15:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been keeping a list of those, and I'll add them in large batches so I don't make hundreds of edits to that page. And of course, if there's any I delete that you or anyone else thinks might still be useful, feel free to revert it.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, found a few that I'm not sure what to do with (also not sure where I should ask this, but I assume that at least a few people are watching my page now, so...). They're screenshots of the Prophecies henchmen with their new quotes that were added in Feb 2007. They're >100KB (some near 200), only linked from the henchmen's talk pages, and pretty useless now. Should they be left alone, or should I delete them and edit the talk pages to remove the links? &mdash;Dr Ishmael 16:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleteion
Do you mind adding a reason for deletion, as IDK why you are deleting those images + <font color="Black">Talk</B>  18:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll start doing that. Mostly they've been unused character pics uploaded by users whose last contribution was at least a few months ago (~150 from User:CarTune o_O).  I did try  to leave a reason if it was an NPC map or other "useful" image that got renamed or replaced.  For the rest, I just didn't know what to put; I guess "unused" would be good enough?  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Should be fine, unused, generic name etc [[Image:Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg]] + <font color="Black">Talk</B> 18:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)