User talk:Gemigemi

I need help with my MM hero builds! Any comments and ideas are appreciated.  

Build archiving
Seeing as the builds section wipe will be going off tomorrow, is it a problem if I archive one of my own builds by simply moving the page to my userspace (and removing category links and all that)? I really don't see a need to keep the original build page there, having it missing from the wiki the day before it gets wiped doesn't seem like a problem. And I'd like to keep the original history of the page intact, and moving it seems to be the best way to do so. The build's A/any Critical Fox, in case you were wondering... having an answer before tomorrow would be preferable, if at all possible. -- Jioruji Derako.> 11:48, 30 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Be bold in editing &mdash; Skuld 12:15, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Imho go ahead. I would only be conserned if the build was one of the most popular ones in the game. I'll probably save a couple of builds to my user name space in the same manner too, but I've got the admin tools so I can undelete them after the wipe so that I can then move them. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 12:21, 30 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Hehe, WP:BOLD is something I'll have to keep in mind more... I think I worry too much about being reckless, though.
 * Anyway, I didn't think there would be a problem, but I always like to check. I'll probably move the page over a little later. First off, I'm busy trying to figure out how to use a Show/Hide box on another wiki... I can't tell what I'm doing wrong, but I think I know what I'm doing. Should keep me busy for the rest of the day.
 * A quick question on that subject; I was trying to figure out how to make a Show/Hide box be hidden by default, but I couldn't get anything... what I stumbled upon was that having more then one Show/Hide box seemed to make a difference. Is there any other way to set this default? --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 12:33, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
 * No clue. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 12:34, 30 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Ah well. Makes no difference to me anyway, at this point; I thought it might be good to check, and I copy+pasted your "useful links" coding over to my userpage on the other Wiki, just to see if it worked (figured pasting code that I knew worked would be the best way to check). A quick press of "Show Preview" proved that, apparently, they use an older version of MetaWiki, because it didn't work... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 12:38, 30 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Back to the original subject, I need to delete my original backup to make room for the the original page. I added a delete tag, I'll be able to move the page over once that's deleted. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 12:45, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Deleted. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 13:10, 30 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Thanks a bunch. I've got it all copied over now. (and I was able to archive the talk page in the process, it was getting long.) --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 16:58, 30 April 2007 (CDT)


 * Sorry I didn't see this until now, but no, simply moving a build is not a good idea for a ton of reasons. Firstly, though, the point of the wipe is to remove all the builds; if 90% of builds were moved out of the Builds: namespace, what would the point of the wipe be? Secondly, we haven't allowed anybody to move builds so far (including authors), so saying "sure it's okay" at this point would be hypocritical. You can steal the build from someone's archive, Jioruji, but the original is going back to the Build: namespace. -Auron [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|19px||My Talk]] 04:16, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

Auron, but that's what happened. A lot of people loved the Wiki for the builds, and now each build has 2 or 3 copies in various User namespaces. IMHO it has made a bigger mess... With or without history is not a big difference. &mdash; Poki#3, 08:52, 1 May 2007 (CDT)


 * I can understand your point, Auron, but realize that my archiving the build page is not just a way to "dodge" the build wipe here. Either way, I'm allowed to save the build to my userspace, correct? By moving this build, as far as I can see, I just save trouble; I don't have to completely re-write the build article in my userspace, I don't need to copy and paste the entire history for crediting purposes, and the redirect page that's created when I move it is wiped as normal. If the userspace copy I've moved is that big of a deal, then it can be deleted; but on that note, seeing as I plan to save this particular build either way, I would just re-create the same exact page in my userspace. The only thing deleting would do is give more work, both for the person who deletes it, and for myself, who would need to re-make the whole page.
 * Was their a particular reason that I missed that makes moving such a bad idea, as opposed to re-writing entirely? I'm not trying to argue here, I just want to straighten out this point. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 12:59, 1 May 2007 (CDT)


 * If there's any way this could get cleared up before the wipe, that would be just awesome. Keeping the original build history would be a great boon, for me. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 13:51, 1 May 2007 (CDT)


 * If you move a build before the wipe, our pre-wipe backup will lack that build. It's not a good thing. &mdash;Tanaric 13:56, 1 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Then do I have any other options to preserve the history just as it is? Moving seems to be the simplest way to do this, but as you say, that would affect the wipe process itself. The build has a full copy on PvXwiki as well, with history intact; can the method they used to copy it be used in reverse? And is it an easy method? --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 14:01, 1 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Just to note, I have a working backup at the moment, so there's no big hurry here. Either way, if there's a way to copy a page's history, I'd like to know it. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 14:12, 1 May 2007 (CDT)


 * The only way to import with history is to do so from a database dump. Such dumps are available from my user page – however, to import them into a wiki, you require sysop access. I'm aware of no method to copy an article on a wiki complete with contribution history. &mdash;Tanaric 14:27, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

My userpage =O!
Hi Gem xD, I have used and credited your javascript boxes at the bottom of my userpage, but theres something wrong with the code that makes the bottom boxes look fatsojmbo >.>, could you help? (t-c) 14:38, 1 May 2007 (CDT) Nevermind, Ive found the problem, thanks anyways. (t-c) 15:33, 2 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Once again, Gem fixes a problem without ever even doing anything. I would do anything for your abilities, Gem... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 15:59, 2 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Well, I opened the problem page, made a small edit to the code, didn't figure out the problem immediately, logged into GW for 'a while' and forgot about it. :D --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 16:01, 2 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Aha! That's your secret! You log into GW for "a while", and things magically start getting fixed. That would explain why my problems remain unresolved... I haven't been playing GW much lately. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jioruji Derako.> 16:04, 2 May 2007 (CDT)


 * Yeah, alt-tabbing from the wiki to GW really often solves all problems. I can't explain it, but it must have something to do with something... something... I dont know. ;) --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 16:10, 2 May 2007 (CDT)

Fun talk missing :(
I just archived all the April stuff and realised that I only had very little fun talk and non-business stuff on my talk page, and compared to the good old times the few fun topics were pretty lame. Where has all the fun gone? Where are the good old chats with Xas and the other nice guys? I noticed that the drop of fun stuff happened roughly at the same time as I got promoted to a sysop. Is that the reason? If so, I really need to think about it more... -- (gem / talk) 19:42, 2 May 2007 (CDT)
 * It's just that Adminstend to get more formal talk since there "almighty" like and people look up to them ;] Want some fun talk? Let's talk about GuildWiki humor ;]
 * It's nice that you used my skillbox for "Coming Through!", but you really should find some icon ;] &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 20:05, 2 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, I've been neglecting that one for a while now. I'll look for one pretty soon. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 01:50, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Hmm, I should probably try to advert User:Gem/Fun more. It's been pretty dead for some time. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (gem / talk) 01:50, 3 May 2007 (CDT)