Category talk:Forces

What to call the political factions without using the word "Faction"?
Since removing the Stone Summit I have put them (and the White Mantle) into the category Forces. Well I think they belong in some kind of category, but not exactly sure about the name. This is what I have been through when brainstorming:
 * "Political factions" or "Factions" - first of all, because of chapter 2, the use of the word Faction would get really overloaded, so I want to avoid that. Second, not all of them are really political entities (politics of bandits or titans?)
 * Armies - doesn't always seem to fit, especially with the bandits.

Then I thought of "Armed Forces", but decided to just go with "Forces" for short. The bandits are a force in the game. The White Mantle are a force in a game. Simple, and not conflicting with other stuff, I hope.

If anyone has an alternate suggestion, speak up. 7 days to decide the category name for these political factions/armies/forces/things. -PanSola 10:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * What about just calling them Groups of Enemies (as in Enemies to the PvE player)? --Si Tacuisses 10:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * "Groups of Enemies" sounds too small, like patrol parties. I know outside the Hotspring, you always get one "group" of skeleton rangers to the north east, while to the north west the "group of enemies" varie between a group of skeleton rangers (in which case there's also a lone necrid horseman running around the place) or a mixed party of Sk mesmers, monks, and sorcerers. etc etc. -PanSola 10:46, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortuneately, "Factions" is the best description here. The only real synonym that I can think of is "Political Parties".  --Barek 10:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * What about "Entity"? That's rather abstract, but I still liked it when somebody came up with Faction (Entity).
 * Whatever name we decide upon in the end, all kinds of groups that are not strictly "species" should go into that category: White Mantle, Stone Summit, Lionguard, Flaming Scepter, Shining Blade, Ascalon Army, Seekers, ... and many more. -- 11:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally I find "Entity" overly vague, especially when Entities can even be single individuals. -PanSola 11:13, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh, thanks TL. It was the best I could think of when I noticed somebody had accidentally linked the GW:F factions to faction, which has nothing to do with GW:F. &mdash; Lunarbunny 11:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * PanSola is right though that it is a very vague term. What about "Organization" instead? -- 11:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Either "Faction (Organization)" or "Faction (Political)" seem more accurate to me; PanSola is right about 'Entity' being a vague term. --Barek 11:19, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

So NOBODY likes the term "Forces" eh? ~_~""" -PanSola 11:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * "Forces" sounds too martial to me. Pacifistic organizations might be offended if we file them under such name. ;) -- 11:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well Barek has turned me. I think we *should* use the word "Category:Factions (Blah}" to describe White Mantle, Shining Blade, Lion Guard etc.  They are intrinsically the same class of things as the two factions players can fight for in Chapter 2, except the game is set up so the two in chapter 2 are special where player can choose to fight for one or the other and gain influcience.  Thus, they should all be factions.  So now my question moves on to what is Blah?  First to distinguish all these "forces" factions from the other usage of the word, THEN we need to sub-divide it into the "nation-factions the player can join to compete against other players to gain influence for" versus the other "factions that the players might join (White Mantle), fight against (White Mantle), or hear about, but not part of the game mechanic's Faction System". @_@"  -PanSola 11:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * "Forces" by itself is too vague. Force of nature?  Political forces?  A synonym for Energy?  It would work in "Faction (Forces)", as an alternate to either "Faction (Organization)" or "Faction (Political)".  Or "Political Parties" is still an option I suppose, although I don't care for it as much as the other options.  --Barek 11:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I just wanna say I like this design much better than the existing one. Our Bestiary classification works very well until it runs into the Jade Armors and the Ice Golems, then it fails, badly.

I think this is good, from now on we categorize all creatures by species in the Bestiary tree and by Political affiliation in the Factions/Groups/Whatchamacall it tree. Thus Jade Armor would have both Catgory:Mursaat (political) and Category:Golems (by species). What we call Mursaat (the group) vs Mursaat (the race) is a different issue. But one that can be solved with enough suggestions. --Karlos 07:41, 13 January 2006 (UTC)