GuildWiki talk:Wikia Migration

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A new thing to worry about
Hey guys, watch this. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/karloth666/rickroll1.gif Neat, huh. Posting an image's URL direct-links the image now; vandals can image-spam without having to go through the trouble of creating an account and uploading images. Also, this probably breaks countless talk pages with links to screenshots and the like on them. Sweet. 08:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * External image hotlinking is *supposed* to be disabled I think... with photobucket being on a whitelist >_<"  -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 08:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, as you can see from this image http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9832/badgerdj1.jpg taken from User talk:Lann, that's not the case. Hotlinking will be bad for load times, and would be very easy to exploit- post a thousand links to that rickroll gif on one page to see what I mean. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's better now. :D [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 08:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No it's not RT | Talk  15:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If there is concensus to do so, we can remove the ability to use any external images. By default, as PanSola said, most external images are blocked; however, a few sites like ImageShack are whitelisted.  You can view the full whitelist here. --KyleH (talk) 17:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Because hotlinking removes the need for licensing details, one of the things we take rather seriously here, I would vote to remove the capability altogether. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove imo --Macros 18:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove imo. --Shadowcrest  18:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove. I'll be personally removing any such images that I find regardless of what is officially decided, since it contravenes GW:IMAGE. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Remove. [[Image:Thoughtful-new-sig.jpg]] Thoughtful 00:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

(resetting indent) It seems that the verdict is unamious. I have requested that the tech team disable the the embedding of external images. This change should be implemented some time in the next few days. --KyleH (talk) 04:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Still working on this ... --KyleH (talk) 04:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Name change
If our name is already taken, is it possible for us to keep our current name on this wiki, but use the "GW-" on all other wikis? --Macros 21:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably not, because part of the merge is (I think) having those other users use our wiki, not just us use other wikis.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  21:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Entrea is correct, I'm afraid that it is not possible for us to do that. --KyleH (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that my username has a conflict on it, now I wonder if this is because of the user I created the other day on Wikikariam. This would mean that I have a name conflict with myself. Shall I delete that user until the merge is over or are there more than one person with my username? Winterbay 12:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If there is only me, then I have now solved it by setting the same email adress on both :) Winterbay 12:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Database Merge
Alright, let's get cracking! First off, I think a lot of those userspace articles will cause a significant problem because of templates; for instance would no longer work on User:GW-Bob's userpage. D: It also can't be good when random Wikia users get hundreds of userspace pages for no reason. What happens if User:Bob/Smellysocks and User:GW-Bob/Smellysocks both existed before the merge? 21:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the main thing that I'm worried about, which is why I tried to get an idea of the impact beforehand using the username survey. Fixing subpages should be fairly simple, but until the change happens, it's hard to determine whether it's best to do it by hand, or set up a bot to do it.
 * With the scenario of both User:Bob/Smellysocks and User:GW-Bob/Smellysocks both existing, because subpages will not automatically be moved, they'll both stay at their respective locations. As for the actual users Bob and GW-Bob, we'll be handling those on a case-by-case basis and posting information about any such conflicts. --KyleH (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that final concern isn't really one, User:Bib/Smellysocks will probably be on another wiki in the unlikely event it exists. As for, most users probably won't find it too hard to move their pages to their new username. For the few that have a bunch of pages like that (poor Entropy) Wikia can hopefully arrange either the bot-move or inactice-name-replacement Kyle was talking about.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea   [Talk]  21:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just somthing, I have the same name on Wikia, same password, same email and such- Will I be changed to GW-Warwick? &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png|Hello]] Warw/Wick 14:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "If you already have an account on Wikia with the same username as your GuildWiki username, make sure the email address is the same on both accounts. If the email addresses are the same, then the accounts will be merged, otherwise your GuildWiki account will be prefixed. " -- Brains12 \ Talk 14:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think I know what I was misunderstanding. While the user may exist on every Wikia wiki, that user's userspace will not. In retrospect, it was silly of me to think so. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Question
Ok, I have noticed that myself and several other users who signed the username survey saying that their names were taken on wikia do not appear on the list of name conflicts, does this mean we get to keep our names and the other users were inactive or what?-- - (Talk /Contribs</B> ) 15:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * List of name conflicts? :o &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 17:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think there's a link to it from this article. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 19:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * ziz. Most of them are spam accounts and people who no longer are active, I think... --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 22:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not on there too. I'd like to know if it's because the "other" Poki is inactive, or because they're going to change me to Poki3... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 12:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * If your name is not on the list, means your name is not taken on the wikia db. So, there is no "other Poki" in this case. Or it means the "other Poki" is registered by you and has the same Email adress set. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 12:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You are wrong on that second point Viper. Even if you own the same user name on wikia, your name still appears on that list.  (You just have to make sure that you have both emails the same) -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   (T / C)  12:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have an account on the Wikia db, and my name is not on the list. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 12:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * And I have an account as well, and my name is on the list. And both my emails have been the same since account creation. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   (T / C)  12:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Look harder, you ARE on the list :P -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  (T / C)  12:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Lolfail. That;s kinda dumb. Basically, it lists everyone with an account here and on Wikia, if they own it, remains an unasked question :P Weird --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 13:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, which I find it rather pointless that they even compiled the list. If you created an account on Wikia, I'm sure you would know that you did or not.  If you tried, and it told you someone already had that name, then you would know it was taken.  And I could see this as a real easy way for someone to #$%^ over a GWiki user that is NOT listed, by taking their name.  Raptors ring any bells? -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   (T / C)  13:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * So, am i in danger of being forked over then? I tried registering on wikia ages ago but it said Cobalt was taken...maybe that account somehow got deleted, i should probably have tried again before posting this message, but meh, il go try again now, if it still exists, and i can see no reason why it wouldn't, then this list really tells us nothing due to all the anomalies--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 16:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yup, Cobalt is still taken, then why am i not on the list??--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 16:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for triple post, but this just got even stranger, i looked on special:Listusers on wikia and cobalt wasnt there :S....what the hell is going on??--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 16:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! Also, if an account has no contributions, it diesnt show up on listusers. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh good, well he doesn't have a userpage, so he will be a nice placeholder to reserve my name for me till the merge :-)--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 16:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Aha! In 2003 he fixed a typo on the Tai chi chuan article on wikipedia. That is his only wikia contribution. He stole my name for that!? For shame!--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 16:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Afaik, Wikipedia != Wikia :P Else they'd lagg for cookies too. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

So because I'm not on the list, it means that the "other Poki" also doesn't have contributions. Good to hear. My signatures and userpages are safe ^^; &mdash; Poki#3, 16:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * For now...--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 16:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * :o &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 17:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, lots of discussion here. Unfortunately, there is no easy way for you to check how active a given Wikia user is because because while the user database is centralized, contributions, user pages, and the like are still specific to each individual wiki.  Special:Listusers on Central Wikia represents only a fraction of active users.  There are a number of names here that do conflict; however, they are not on that list because they signed the username survey and the local account here will replace the existing account on Wikia.  That said, I can't guarantee that the list is completely free from omissions, but we will work with you through any username conflicts that do come up. --KyleH (talk) 08:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sooo, is this still happening today (or rather, tomorrow, due to american time zones)?--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (<font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green">Contribs</B> ) 18:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Because of some system-wide upgrades that are taking place today and tomorrow, we have pushed back the database migration. It is now tentatively scheduled for Thursday, May 8th. --KyleH (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)