Talk:Aggressive Refrain

So this is basically an unlinked skill? There's gonna be some kind of downside to it, or W/P will be using this with "Watch Yourself!" at 0 Tactics. Sure, Warriors have a hard time with the initial cost, but tell me it wouldn't be worth it... 149.169.109.183 19:46, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Yeah plus you just cast this before battle in say team battles. And just have a paragon chanting for no particular reason to keep it up. (Not a fifty five 14:28, 26 September 2006 (CDT))
 * Because at 25e, 15% DP will render it useless.172.143.33.145 19:37, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Just like with avatar of Melandru, you bring a high energy set for when you have DP. --Fyren 19:44, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

Good thing Rangers and Necros get some dedicated Shout/Chant hate. --RolandOfGilead 14:55, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

Now duration varies with attribute lvl. Can be maintained almost indefinitely with "Watch Yourself" at 0 tactics, "Go for the Eyes" and Devona shouting "Charge!" for instance

This skill can be useful for ranger primaries that have around 12 in expertise.
 * No it can't, because Expertise does not affect Echos. Arshay Duskbrow 07:01, 14 February 2007 (CST)

lmao lasting 5 at 0 leadership and then costing 25e? I dont think so buddy.

Ever notice that para's cast this at the beginning of a match and then never recast it? It's a pretty darn good skill if you ask me: cast once at the beginning, Go for the Eyes and Anthem of Flame are all you need. Anooneemiss 00:14, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

How does head piece swapping affect this? If u have 11 in leadership and a +4 leadership head piece it lasts 25 seconds. If u then swap to a spear mastery head piece and refresh it, would it last 21 (or 20 if u have no minor rune) or 25 seconds? 77.241.133.175 16:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Odd nerf this skill just got. Could be interesting with Plague Signet, if you keep sending it off to someone every time the echo gets reapplied. 79.179.142.218 21:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

poor baby aggressive!
way to overnerf! This means that if you are running a team with alot of paragons, you basically have permanent cracked armor. I mean, I was thinking, this isn't so bad if you have SoP but it will get reapplied as SoP ends. If you want to use this, you have to take cracked armor pretty often. They only way to make this not suck would be to only use it if the only shout/chant that you're going to encounter is only used just often enough to keep this from ending. Aggressive gets reapplied whenever anything ends which means that during the course of a match, it gets reapplied pretty frequently. More often than it would need to be just to keep it up. So basically, if you want to use a lot shouts and chants, forget aggressive refrain cause you'll be screwing yourself over with shouts and chants. &mdash; ♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 00:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)