Talk:Balthazar's Pendulum

Skill description incorrect?
The description for this skill is possibly incorrect (I got it from a forum, not from ingame). First of all it seems gramatically wrong. Furthermore it talks about a target foe as well as a target ally. But the spell can have only one target. Somebody please verify the wording ingame. -- 06:58, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

Since you can't enchant enemies I would assume it effects an ally.

Shock Warriors
au revoir shock warriors. we knew thee well.
 * Not just shock wars, but any war kd skill (Bull's, Irresistable (in case of block)). But then again, Balth's Pend is rather pricy for its elite status. --8765 13:43, 22 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Its an elite smiting skill.. &mdash; Skuld 13:43, 22 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I cant see this being used in PvP ever. Elite smiting just to annoy KD warriors? No way. --Xeeron 04:46, 23 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Yeah rly. How about Ward against stability lol.  Non-elite that prevents KD on all people in the ward!  Its quite obvious this needs to be stripped of elite status.
 * When I first saw it's elite status I was in awe. Why anyone would use this in PVE as their elite is beyond me.In PvP I could see using it on monks against shock and hammer warriors but it still takes smiting prayers. --Life Infusion 19:32, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Um... This is a stupid elite, just use Shield_of_Judgment instead for PvE, and it is useless for PvP.
 * Agreed. This skill is in dire need of un-nerfing. ><  Carmine
 * Idk, Sheild of Judgement has a long recharge time, however this can be kept on your forever(so long it issnt removed). I Think this may become a very useful skill. Just alow a warior to try to kd you then Holy Strike him. ~ Zero rogue x 22:09, 3 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Do none of you get how the skill works? It only prevents ONE knockdown, and then needs to be refreshed. --Curse You 01:41, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Yup. That could be why it sucks pretty bad. Kessel 05:28, 8 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Despite being not too good in general, I could see use as a "GG Pwnt" opportunity... at least it'd be funny. 1/4 second cast would make it cool. 24.19.163.245 20:56, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

Neuton's Law
I was thinking and I began to wonder: What would happen if a player enchanted with Balthazar's Pendulum were to use a knockdown on another player enchanted with Balthazar's Pendulum? Would they nulify eachother and knockdown the target anyways, or would neither get knocked down? --Curse You 18:52, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I think that will depend on whether or not the "reaction" knockdown takes effect as if coming from YOU or simply an effect (like Desperation blow). If the reaction KD is from you, then the attacker's Balthazar's Pendulum will negate it and knock you down (at which point your own Pendulum will have been removed by the first attempt and you'll be KD'ed). If the reaction KD from you does not register as being a KD by YOU then it will just get negated I think. All speculation though, definitely worth scrimmaging to figure it out. --Karlos 20:47, 21 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Based on some wording and some mental simulations, I'd go for this sequence happening:
 * 1) You attempt to knock down a foe using a skill.
 * 2) Your knockdown is cancelled and Balthazar's Pendulum (an enemy monk's skill) attempts to knock you down.
 * 3) Your Balth's Pendulum triggers, preventing the enemy's knockdown, and knocking down the enemy monk who used pendulum.
 * 4) The monk standing in the middle of nowhere suddenly falls over, and gets confused.
 * Presumably if the enemy monk had cast Pendulum on himself too the chain would get to your monk with pendulum.