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Rare mini pricecheck please!
Just trying to keep a list as I see them around, maybe some day I'll even buy something. :P If you have a different price than one that's listed, please post your in addition, do not remove the previous. Add your source if you can, like did you see it for sale or just heard a pc or saw someone offer a price. All undedicated please or state "ded". Thx much. RoseOfKali 19:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Greased Lightning - 1000e pc
 * Polar Bear - 1500-1750e pc, 950 e for sale (ded)
 * Vizu - 450e pc
 * Kanaxai - $5,000 USD on ebay... O_O 9200e dedicated for sale (184 Armbraces)...
 * Ghostly Hero - 1100e for sale. 1500e pc. 1000-1750e pc. 1650e for sale. 950e pc. 1850 payed price unded.
 * Shiro'ken Assassin - 800e for sale... 650e pc
 * Zhed Shadowhoof
 * Island Guardian
 * Panda - 1,500e+85 Armbraces offer for dedicated... 5,000e ded for sale now that I think about it, I wonder if that was an elaborate scam, as these prices were only a short time apart, and the offer was 750 ectos higher than the asking price
 * Grawl - 100k+19e bought
 * Longhair Yeti - 180e offer, 400e pc, 500e pc, 800e pc
 * Naga Raincaller - 370e for sale, 450e pc, wtb ded 100k+70e, 1,000e for sale
 * Oni - 333e offer, 430e for sale, 550e-600e pc, wtb ded 100k+98e, 1,000e for sale and wtb
 * Interesting facts: there were originally 29 Kanaxais, 56 Vizus, 115 Zheds and Shiro'kens, 136 Pandas and Island Guardians, 200 Greased Ligntnings, Yeti/Naga/Oni/Grawl go over 1,000, and Ghostly Hero/Polar Bear are "virtually" unlimited.
 * Last updated: RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 23:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Last updated; Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 10:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC) The Ip was me, not logged in.

So I herd....
...You're from Ukraine? &mdash; DarK  19:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 20:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Me too! Which city d'you hail from? ^^ &mdash; DarK  08:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ^_^ Sokal', L'viv Region. You? What's your name? I'm Halyna. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm from Kherson(Herson, Cherson, whatever), dunno what region that is cuz I was 7 when we moved to Belgium :P My name is Slava. &mdash; DarK  19:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, near the Crimean Peninsula, it's the region's capital. The first spelling was the correct one - Херсон ( Герсон, Черсон ). :) Been there, very nice in summer, watermelons and peaches for sale on every corner. :P I left Ukraine when I was 15, and only been back for 9 months since then (7 years ago), but as you may have read on my page, there's a possibility I have to go back for a while before I can become a resident here. *sigh* RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 19:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm only 16. And I too still need to become an official resident here, as my mom is Ukrainian and she's simply married to a Belgian guy. We already did make a request, but it'll probably take an other few months, if not longer, until we get an official reply.... Sigh... All those officials.. Instead of speeding things up they just slow everything down and make our life even harder >.> &mdash; DarK  21:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I hear you. I'm still waiting on a reply for my case, almost a year now.  They have everything they could possibly want/need, but they sent me a notice saying they will get back to me in the next 6 months...  I didn't know that people could possibly need 6 MORE months to look through a complete application.  >_<  I hope things work out for you quickly.  :)  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 04:48, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, seeing your immigration rant, things do work out pretty good for me compared to you, don't worry about that. Just make sure that you get through this as well :) &mdash; DarK  09:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yay, someone who lives in Belgium too! And yeah, immigration stuff sucks (the entire bureacracy does, but still...) . I'm native though :P --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 10:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy wedding-day!
=) - Wuhy 13:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * rofl i posted at 13:37 - Wuhy 13:38, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, congrats with your 1st year :) &mdash; DarK  17:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Congredulations!--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg|Roar.]]îğá†ħŕášħ 18:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy anniversary! [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 19:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I wish you enough strength and happiness to last through the times ahead! -- ◄mendel► 20:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, all. :D I'm all giddy today. ^_^; RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 21:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, a late GZ from me too, but I couldn't get on yesterday :P Let there be many more years! --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 14:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Workload B
It's not your workload your suggestion is trying to reduce: you've implied twice that the work others have been doing so far is "too much effort" and "just a lot of work". You are discouraging other people's effort for no visible reason. That was exactly the same thing I was observing the last time, hence I referred to it in my edit summary; and it was intended to be that, a reference, not an insult (and I'm sorry if you took it that way), because I'm sure you are not intentionally assuming that discouraging role. -- ◄mendel► 00:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I never said I'm trying to reduce my workload, I guess it's in my nature to try to make repetitive processes easier, if possible, both for me and for others, especially considering that there may not be an end in sight for this one. This is the nature of an engineer.  I appreciate the work done by everyone on this wiki, but I didn't think there was any harm in trying to make things easier for them, but seems like that's not desired.  I also never implied that other people said anything about this being hard or w/e, nor was I trying to discourage anything, it was solely my opinion, and as such it was open to criticism of its content, I think that should have been clear.  Instead, you made a reference to a largely unrelated previous PA, without really discussing anything particular of what I said, only claiming that I implied things.  I also don't see how that was exactly the same thing [you were] observing the last time, not sure exactly how it is the same thing, but that doesn't matter.  I accept the apology this time, but I would really appreciate if you stop calling me that, be it a reference or not, it was uncalled for and insulting both times (3 if you count this header).  I let the first one slide because I was sick and largely not in the mood for discussing anything, and because of the ST incident, and the fact that someone decided to put together their idea for the tonics page in userspace first after talking to me (I see nothing wrong with developing an idea in userspace first, but with your defensive stance about it, I will stop discussing this with other users, and only do it for my contributions; and we happened to resolve this issue in a rather friendly manner, by the way, after a very brief 1-comment-long misunderstanding), but I really didn't expect being called names by you again, especially for something like this.  I would like to consider this discussion closed, as I don't see anything further left to discuss before it gets ugly.  I would also like to think that both of us will remember this in the future and attempt to avoid making it happen again.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 01:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You missed almost all of my point. -- ◄mendel► 10:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Please express it clearly, without implications, obscure references, and PA next time. And discuss my comments, not my personality.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 17:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "You are discouraging other people's effort for no visible reason. " -- ◄mendel► 20:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Still don't see how I'm personally discouraging anything, but alas. Aside from being called a bitch again for a simple suggestion expanding on another person's idea, and having implications and assumptions assigned to me that may or may not have been there, a comment along the lines "On this wiki we strive to document every smallest detail of the game, and so far our editors have largely succeeded at this enormous task.  Removing the individual quest articles and consolidating them to a single list goes against this mission." would have been more than adequate to reply to that.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 21:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

internet.ua
263 million hits, so there must be some kind of infrastructure? The final(?) installment of your saga sounds right out of Kafka. :-( Get over asap so you get two summers in your 15 months instead of two winters, is my suggestion... -- ◄mendel► 06:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, especially with the gas prices as they are there now... We're working on it.  Got a new laptop today to take with me as a DTR.  And yes, there is an infrastructure, but it's very.. underdeveloped, and to most people internet is still dark woods never ventured.  I'll find out soon enough what speeds are available, once my dad gets back from Moscow, I'll ask him to see what's out there.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and it's not quite final. Final will be when I get my Naturalization certificate. ;) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and what do you think? 250 fps on GW peak, about 120 fps avg with highest settings seems quite sexy to me compared to like 20-30 on my desktop. ^_^ RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sexiness confirmed. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 07:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ^ Def nice for a laptop ;o Watch out you don't get burnt by it. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  17:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Does it have an aluminum keyboard? My guildie got a laptop and thought "fans are useless... I don't need one," so whenever it overheated his aluminum keyboard literally burnt his fingers. Or did you mean some other kind of burn? --Macros 19:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a DTR with plastic keys, so it's not meant for my lap. Gets a little warm, but that's about it, I just make sure to not put it on anything fuzzy to block the airflow, like with any other laptop out there.  And apparently the newer NVIDIAs are much better with heat management, unlike the 8600s that kept breaking GW for people.  Aluminum keyboard... lol, people are crazy.  And Viper, if you meant another type of "burn," you better say it now, while I can still return it...  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 19:26, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * NVIDIA...huh! *spits* Have I ever told you about the time my laptop overheated and died even with all the vents clean and unobstructed? I hate this machine so much. :(
 * On another note, sad to hear how things ended up... I guess I didn't expect much better from the government, new administration or not. US may be the biggest magnet for immigration, but that doesn't mean it treats them well...anyway, we'll take good care of the Armor section even if you can't. I've got some I could have added for a long time but I've been holding back; I think now would be an opportunate time. Best of luck :) Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 00:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol... What Nvidia was it?  I've read bad things about 84-8600s, but supposedly it's all better now.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 03:46, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It's better. In desktops :> Prog always gets told he should upgrade his videocard driver (which is the laptop nVidia driver), however, there's no more recent version. Sucks. Also, I meant "burn" as in, whenever you put it on your lap (it's a laptop for a reason huh), you'll hurt yourself. A mate of mine has a laptop which can cook an egg . --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  14:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M. The last time I "upgraded" the drivers, it made GW crash in ~5 minutes instead of some hours. :] Also: I find it silly that laptops were never meant to be put on your lap. I was reading the manual yesterday and it says never to let it touch any part of your body for an extended period of time or rest it on a soft and flexible surface, especially as it might block the exhaust ports...so whoever coined the term "laptop" is a marketing genius. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 15:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think when they first came out, it was possible to have them on the lap, so they got coined "lap" versus "desk" top. Now they're technically "notebook" computers. :P It's like the duck tape story.  But yeah, this thing runs very quiet and cool, until I run GW with max settings for 8 hours straight... ^_^ But it's still not too bad, even after than kind of time it's only warm, not really hot, and it's not all that loud, I don't notice the fans unless I listen for them.  I like it so far.  I just hope it withstands my GW abuse.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 20:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * If my city machine can withstand ~24 hours of straight GW playing (no breaks!), then your shiny new "notebook" should be able to also. :> btw, it's "duct tape" Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 22:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In Great BritainLand, there is a product called "duck tape" linky Random Time  22:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In USA, there is "Duck Brand Tape" too. But the original stuff, with the fibers n stuff embedded, is known as "duct tape" because it was meant to be used for repairing ducts. (which, incidentally, it does not a good job of, or so they say) Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 22:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Watch and learn. Vaseline optional.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 04:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * She's got a sexy accent..."Naughtyfied"... :D Also, there are two sides to every story. Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 08:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, but because of the two sides, you should not have corrected me. ;) And it sucks for ducts, anyway, IMPOSTOR! RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

lightgrey
"lightgrey" is the only color that is standardized to have the "ey"; all the others have the "ay", and that's what I had in mind when I edited that page. :-( -- ◄mendel► 23:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * GODDAMIT why does IE have to make things so confusing... :'( I just remember that there's an E in "IE" so IE uses grey for all shades except "gray" itself. >_< That, or I'm just completely lost now... :/ RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 00:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought it was a British English/American English thing. British English usually uses "grey."  (And British English would also have me put that last quotation mark in a slightly different place, too, for that matter.)  Nwash 19:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Art galleries
Off the top of my head I tend to think of you as the armor art gallery person. So, i have some questions about some new pictures i uploaded and the pictures I didn't. I uploaded the dyed male versions of Assassin Elite Luxon armor, but as I dyed it white and screwed up my own gray pictures, I didn't update those. Should I bite the bullet and re-dye, or is what's there fine? --JonTheMon 05:19, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I have some good news and more bad news... The visual quality of the white dyed images is awesome, they are plain beatiful.  However, the positioning is a problem...  The character is rotated way off from the proper armor viewing angle - do not focus on the face, focus on the body, because the current images are about 1/4 turn (45 degrees) off.  The fact that the face is to the side isn't a big deal, as the mask gets its own set of images.  The visual quality of the gray images is not as good as it should be, they're a little fuzzy, which wouldn't be a big deal by itself, but they are all obstructed by shadows (facing away from the sun), and suffer from the same positioning problem as the dyed ones.  Assassin_Vabbian_armor/Male is what it should ideally look like.  It is your choice whether to waste 15k worth of dye, but to answer your question, I'd personally say that the gallery needs to be reworked for all images...  As it is now, it can be marginally stretched to be marked as done in the armor project list, but it's not up to the highest standards.
 * So, to recap:


 * 1) The character is rotated off-angle on all views: front and back need to focus on the chest/hips, profile needs to be... a profile, not 1/4 view. The Vabbian gallery is a perfect example on great positioning.  Also note the camera height, which shouldn't be above you, but closer to eye or chest level.
 * 2) Try to not face away from the sun to avoid shadows. Facing the sun, or even having it to your side is ok, just not in the back.  This is only a problem on the gray images, which aren't yours, but just make sure not to run into that problem if you re-do the shots.
 * 3) Keep the visual quality of the white dyed images, they look awesome.
 * 4) Don't feel like you have to re-do the gallery. It's overall sort of kind of passable, just not as good as it should ideally be.
 * If you have any more questions or need help, feel free to ask. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. - Lol at the chin spike. ^_^ RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 06:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * New dyed images; screw image caching. --JonTheMon 02:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Very nice. :) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 03:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

count
I wouldn't be worried about making teh 15 count, you'll have a current passport with visas in it to prove that. Be sure you can make those months count that you already have, you know bureaucracy can lose things. -- ◄mendel► 11:14, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * When my mom was deported, she was given a form to be filled at the consulate once she arrived in Ukraine to confirm that she in fact departed as intended. This in itself was weird, as she only needed to depart the US, and did not have to be in Ukraine.  My 15 must be spent in Ukraine and no other country, because that is where I am resident.  This is the reason I cannot just go to Canada and stay there instead, even though there is family there who would have helped.  And after everything we went through, I can't really blame myself for being a little paranoid about that crap.  Still makes me rage that neither the Consulate nor their website bothered to tell me about the fact that they no longer issue the statements for OVER A YEAR now, and that little bitch did not feel like replying to my E-mail was at all necessary.  Just confirms further how rotten that place is, nobody cares about anything but their pocket.  Hell, if this wasn't a higher-up political issue, I'd be able to BUY the friggin statement, just like anything else there.  Take a looksy, but beware, it's quite disgusting, not in a graphic kind of way.  Ukraine's corruption rank is 118, clear in the middle of Africa and countries nobody's even heard of.
 * The only reason this is even a problem is because anyone with half a brain and an once of opportunity runs for their lives and never looks back, I can't think of a single family from my town who doesn't have people abroad. The government just takes every chance to destroy those little opportunities, because if they don't, soon they will be left with nothing but mentally or physically challenged, and retirees.  6 million decline over 15 years is more than 10% of the population gone.  Some due to immigration (don't believe the charts, it's higher than that, they don't consider all the illegals), and a lot is due to premature death.  My mother is there for a month now, about to come back on Saturday, and says that they burn landfills due to lack of space.  Every week the stench is gagging, and it's not made any better by the fact that they are full of mercury bulbs and other toxic waste that is never recycled or properly destroyed.  Almost every time my mom calls her friends, she hears that someone she knew died of cancer, heart failure, or no apparent reason at all, at the age of 50-something.  The coal mines just miles away don't help, I'm sure.
 * The stories that I'm hearing from my friend and my grandmother don't help much, either. People get robbed in broad daylight in public, and nobody does anything, because they're afraid.  An old couple was murdered because her daughter sent them money from here to buy a house that's not falling apart, and the only person who even knew they had money was the bank cashier.  A girl got her ear ripped off when someone tried to nab her cellphone at a bus station.  A homeless woman was murdered by three 11-15 year olds for no reason at all.  And this is not nationwide, this is just in my little 20k town and the one 10 miles away.  I don't remember it being like this 7 years ago... people are going crazy.  The situation is driving them crazy.  Kids grow up with no supervision with parents working abroad and sending them money they throw away on booze - bars are loaded with teenagers, as witnessed by my dad, there doesn't seem to be any age enforcement.  What do you think is going to grow out of them?  Other people who don't have family sending the cash can't afford utilities and food, there is no social support, no jobs, and retirees and workers are often not paid for months on end "just because," so they turn to stealing with no other way out.  Others just go crazy for no reason, like my aunt, who threatened to kill her own mother, calling her an "old cow" days after her father died, all because she signed over her crappy little house to my mom.  My aunt is in Italy for 10 years, no contact, no phonecalls, while my mom has been sending my grandma money to support her.  I'm not surprised at who got the house, considering the GVT would have otherwise got it once she died, even though it's falling apart at the seams, has only 2 rooms and a tiny kitchen, and no running water or bathroom.  I'm really not looking forward to all this drama and all this... crap.  >_<
 * Gas over there is currently about $4/gallon, while people are lucky to make $200/month. I'm going to be walking everywhere for groceries, etc, and it doesn't help that half the town knows who I am and thinks I'm loaded with cash after 7 years in America, which is not true.  Hell, I've been delivering Chinese for the last 5 years, how much money do you think I have left after paying 65k for my education?  I guess I'll just have to "tread lightly and carry a big stick."  No guns over there, I wish I could carry around a samurai sword, maybe that would be intimidating enough. :/
 * Anyway, I ramble a lot whenever I get on this topic. This crap gets me so angry I can't see straight.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And I thought Kherson was bad enough already... Damn. People going crazy there is just one of the more minor cases, money is the bigger problem. My mom and I had left Ukraine because we were too poor (and cuz that fucking asshole that would be my biological dad left us when I was 3 years old, and left no money, no belongings, NOTHING). We had found someone here in Belgium with who we could spend our lives with, hoping to live normally. But no, our problems would start just then. My step-dad now is turned out to be one of the biggest assholes ever. He almost strangled my mom when he got angry once, and I've fought him more than once as well, just because he got some serious anger problems which he won't admit. Then, we're also running low on money right now as well, with the fucked up economy speeding up the case, while my mom still needs to send money to my grandmother, cause without it should we have a tough time to survive out there in her appartment. Goddamn, why is this world so fucking cruel on us? I wish I knew what we have done wrong to diserve such fate. &mdash; DarK  18:25, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Little sucks more than leaving one pile of crap just to step into another... Personal issues are personal, though.  Overall, Belgium is a good place to be (that's where you are, right?).  I hope your mom can ditch that bastard and get your lives straightened out.  Ukraine, on the other hand, is like a whopping tar pit, there's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, nowhere to turn to, the more you fight, the worse it gets.  Most people just have to accept their "fate" and make the best of the little they have, while others join into the stream of corruption and crime.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd send you my samurai sword, but as saddened as I am by your story I don't know if I'd want to put myself on the no-fly list for that. :| Entropy [[Image:Entropy Sig 2.jpg]] (C) 18:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Good luck on the deportation thing. If you haven't tried your Senator or Governor yet, it's worth a shot. A friend of mine married a lady from Bosnia (a Croat with family in Serbian territory at that) and had the same problem. She did end up having to go back for several months, but as I understand it, it was more because she couldn't become a US or dual citizen because they have messed up property laws there and she owns property. The kicker was not long after she got back to the US he got assigned to a US embassy and she got stuck in the US (and he now works for Secretary of State Clinton...). I think she finally got travel clearance, 6 months after he was assigned. --Falseprophet 19:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You misunderstood... I am NOT getting deported. And my leave is timed, I have to spend 15 months to clear a stupid requirement.  Contacting the Governor is a waste of time, as he can't do anything.  What the Immigration is doing to me is LEGAL, it is the law, stupid one, but it's still the law.  It involves international politics with a post-Soviet country that is bursting with corruption on more levels than you can imagine, so a U.S. Governor is a joke on that scale.  I can stay here all I want if I continue to go to school, but it is a waste of money (5x more due to non-resident tuition), and a waste of time, because I will never be able to become a resident or citizen before this requirement is satisfied, or before the law itself changes (yeah, right...).  So, my husband and I had made the decision that we will get through this in order to set our lives straight, instead of trying to delay the inevitable, because I am sick of being a "nobody" here, not even being able to get a job above McDonalds level, and living in fear of being "denied" the case at any time and having 2 weeks to leave the country.  What is the most frustrating is that I did not do anything against the law, but illegal immigrants, such as my own mother and hoards of half-literate Mexicans, can get residency and Green Cards much faster than me, who followed the law and is able to contribute to this country with a special honors level Engineering degree.  THAT is broken.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 19:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Forgive my ignorance and random indentation ...um...is that a word? if half the town knows who you are, thinks your rich, and generally goes around killing and robbing people... why that town?
 * Either way I wish you the best, Rose. A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 22:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm... *confused* I was actually here to apologise about missing this. I didn't steal it, but don't claim to have been the first inspired person. A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 22:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Indentation is a word.
 * "That town" because that's where I grew up, that's where my remaining relatives are (grandmother and dad, some distant family I barely know anymore), and, most importantly, that's where there is still a place to live that belongs to my family, without having to pay an additional small fortune for rent elsewhere. Rent over there approaches or exceeds U.S. expenses for seriously inferior accommodation, and that is just a little too much for my husband to handle by himself, already paying for a house here in the U.S. on top of it.  Considering the economy there, I doubt I'll have a job worth even a measly $10 per day, so that's not even worth the trouble.  Besides, that town is nothing special, it's like that pretty much anywhere, so I'll rather live in a house with a full bathroom and running water (versus a bucket of well water and an outhouse...), within walking distance of a grocery store, and close to at least some people I know from the past.  The way you put it, it makes it sound like some movie inspired Sin City or something, it's not quite like that.  But it's still not safe.  Police do whatever they damn please, except their actual job of patrolling and responding to calls, and corruption is one of the worst in the world, on par with central Africa, I posted the corruption ranks earlier.  Those who haven't witnessed this first hand cannot possibly imagine what it's like, it is not like the Batman movies, it only sounds like it, except there's no Batman.  My mom saw a convicted-for-life local gang leader sitting at district prosecutor's office (or whatever the f* his title is, the regional police kiss his ass, so he's important), both calmly drinking cognac and cracking jokes in her presence, only 3 years after the conviction.  The bank teller demanded (not just asked for) her ATM card pin number in order to withdraw a money transfer, and implied that my mom was crazy refusing to provide it, as it was "standard procedure" to ask people's pin codes.  After that, it makes you wonder why people who withdraw large sums of cash get gunned down the same day...  So, you know what, I'll be sitting in my house most of the time, only poking my nose out mid-day when I need to buy some food or something, asking my husband for small $200 or so transfers, and keeping my mouth shut about everything and everyone.  That said, I really hope that they have at least somewhat functional internet, or I will go insane...  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 23:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. Wasn't 100%.
 * Just, the way that you made it sound... let's just say you'd have an expensive Live Assurance Policy. This is where the whole "forgive my ignorance" bit comes into play. But... being close to your family can't be worth rsking your life... A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When Needed 14:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You gotta keep in mind that I'm very frustrated and angry right now, and hearing the stories that I relayed here wasn't something I needed. In any case, like I said before, it wold be the same no matter where I went, except maybe fewer people would know me, but that would cost me a lot more cash, and even more of my sanity.  What I was trying to say with the bank teller story is that it only takes one wrong person to know what they're not supposed to know, even if nobody else in the entire city knows who you are.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Internet not only sux there but also...
... Costs a shitload of money to get some proper (well, define proper...) internet connection in Ukraine. At least, that's what I heard when I was there last time (almost a year ago). Best thing they got there is a sort of city/region-wide LAN connection, some weird thing called SKYnet (or skyNET, can't remember), and I don't understand how that shit works tbh.... Best chances for good (define good...) internet connection would be internet cafes, but those prolly cost a shitload more than the so called "proper" internet I mentioned before. I wish you good luck in finding something that works out, cause I don't see any options yet... :/&mdash; DarK  18:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah... so I hear. I guess I'll have to find out once I get there. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)