Talk:Index of skill lists

I agree with the merge --Hewus 12:26, 14 Aug 2005 (EST)

If you want a merge, discuss it here, don't marr the article with it. The merge template falls under "Ollj's undiscussed additions to wiki policy," and I'm systematically removing it. Anyone wishing to propose a merge tag/category should do so on Talk:Main Page. &mdash;Tanaric 22:03, 16 Aug 2005 (EST)

I propose this page take on a new name/identity of "Index of Skill Lists" or simply "Skill Lists". --Rezyk 13:42, 14 Oct 2005 (EST)


 * I guess I'll start moving it in this direction and see what the reaction is... --Rezyk 11:20, 25 October 2005 (EST)


 * Why do you want to do this? Perhaps if you make a case for the request people will participate. As it stands now, all we have is that you wish to do this. --Karlos 16:50, 25 October 2005 (EST)


 * I'm not out to get participation unless there is an objection. =) The basic reason is: it would make for a generally better reference page. --Rezyk 17:21, 26 October 2005 (EST)


 * I'm fine with that. I think all it needs is List of skills by type. --Karlos 22:53, 26 October 2005 (EST)

why so many elite lists?
Okay, I just don't get why we need these "elite skills by locations lists." See Elite_Warrior_Skill_Locations. These seem completely redundant. We've got the very nice Elite skills list which allows you to click whatever skill your actually interested in and find out where it is. We've also got the location pages themselves which crossreference all the different skills you can find in the area. These two things alone, allow us to look up skills by class/name AND by location. Not to mention the regular profession quick reference pages (like Warrior_Skills_Quick_Reference) that list the elites along with the regular skills. So what is it that these additional "elite skills of x profession by location pages" really add except even more places to update changes? Although i respect the amount of work that someone put into these, it doesn't seem like having all the locations on a single page is really worth the data duplication. --Squeg 01:43, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * More never decided stuff. Look at the talk page for elite skills list. --Fyren 06:05, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * Hmmmm... An interesting history.  I'll comment there, I guess.  But i have to say, I really like the Elite skills list as it is now, without locations/bosses to clutter it up.  There are two ways people approach lookin for elites... they say where can i look for skill x, so they look up skill x to see.  Or they say what skills can I find in location alpha, and they check alpha's location (or mission) page to see what's there.  Anything else seems like overkill. --Squeg 07:24, 29 October 2005 (EST)

Skill Lists by Profession
I really preferred the bulletted list over the new one Rezyk just put in. The icons are pretty, but the "quick reference links (the ones i absolutely find more useful than any of the others) are way to hard to find. I don't care at all about those location links, as stated above, and the category page doesn't offer nearly the information that the quick ref pages do. I want to go back.  Anyone else?  --Squeg 07:47, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * What are your thoughts on this new version? I took out the location links as there's discussion about deleting those articles anyways. --Rezyk 07:53, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * It's better, but i'd really like the so called "quick reference" links to be the primary link for the profession. It offers a lot more information than just the category.  If we really need the category links, then i propose doing something like (category) after the quick ref link and renaming those links to something other than "quick reference".  I'll take quick stab at it so I'm not foisting it all on you. As for removing locations, I love it.  But so far, I think i'm the only that's said as much. --Squeg 07:59, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * I went ahead and made my suggested changes... Alternatively, we could try something like the following:

Warrior skills
 * by category
 * Elite skills by location

Ranger skills
 * by category
 * Elite skills by location

Monk skills
 * by category
 * Elite skills by location

Necromancer skills
 * by category
 * Elite skills by location

Mesmer skills
 * by category
 * Elite skills by location

Elementalist skills
 * by category
 * Elite skills by location

I'm generally fine with your new version. One thing I've also been considering is that attribute links might be worth having:
 * Monk skills (by category)
 * Divine Favor
 * Healing Prayers
 * Protection Prayers
 * Smiting Prayers

I think any vertical expansion might be best used for this instead. --Rezyk 08:27, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * Given that these are all just really subsections of the main page and that the main page already has a table of contents at the top to allow you to jump to the attribute you want without even incurring a page load, I don't really see taking up space listing all the attributes again on this page. --Squeg 11:18, 29 October 2005 (EST)


 * Well, it would also be a way to support links to the attribute skills categories. --Rezyk 11:29, 29 October 2005 (EST)

Pending the discussion of their deletion, I readded the "elites with location" in the form of a link to Elite skill locations. --Rezyk 08:42, 29 October 2005 (EST)