User talk:Warrior Nation/Mo/Me Inspiration Boon Healer

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Favoured:
 * 1) Exactly the build on the Guild Wars Website article "Skill Synergy-Part 2", but it does work well--Ofer1992 08:41, 25 December 2006 (CST)
 * 2) I was going to unfavor it - surely we must have a healer's boon build somewhere in tested, but surprisingly, there isn't. I'm not sure on all the skill choices here, but I think one healer boon build with variants should be in tested. It's a very nice elite. NightAngel 21:35, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * 3) We need a tested Healer's Boon build, and this one is pretty much as good as they get. Defiant Elements 17:20, 30 December 2006 (CST)
 * 4) I guess the variants need an update, but hey... ~ Nilles (msg) 04:19, 29 January 2007 (CST)

Unfavoured:
 * Ehm, 12 Inspiration isnt needed. Skills are also a big no. UnexistNL
 * Yes, v. bad attributes. &mdash; Skuld 07:40, 25 January 2007 (CST)
 * 1) Was there mentioned the attributes are spread weird? -- S i  g  m  a  [[image:Aura_of_Faith.jpg|19px|||My Talk]] 07:43, 25 January 2007 (CST)
 * 2) The attributes need fixed see below --Lania Elderfire 21:19, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * Updated with new set. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:34, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * nice, striking my vote-Lania Elderfire 01:42, 28 January 2007 (CST)

Variant
What about this...

This will completely illiminate the chance of etheral light being interrupted. good build even as it is though.Two thousand health 23:09, 17 December 2006 (CST)


 * I like. Ethereal Light was practically made for Healer's Boon. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:20, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Switch inspired for holy veil &mdash; Skuld 08:48, 25 December 2006 (CST)

I love the idea behind this build. I've been trying it and a few small variants trying to get one that's as effective as a Zealous Benediction build for RA. Even with Channeling and Inspired Hex I find myself running out of energy very quickly most of the time. And if one of your self heals gets interrupted or diverted while you're being attacked, it can mean trouble. Perhaps replacing something with Contemplation of Purity would help survivability. Perceptes 11:56, 25 December 2006 (CST)

Put heal party is under variants? I know that in HA if you're good with channeling then this can become an amazing heal party bot. --Theonemephisto 13:46, 25 December 2006 (CST)


 * Heal Party + healer's boon has been seen in GvG quite often lately, it needs to be in variants... IMO... Lania Elderfire 19:02, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Discussion
One thing I noticed with watching monks use HB in GvG is that builds focused around HB is very vulnerable to fearway warriors, and e-denial. A lot of times, I see them staying far out of range and using heal party from a great distance. As it is now, the build works with PvE ok, but it needs more work for PvP. Also I really don't see the point of 12 points in inspiration magic... even with 12 points you can only gain 4 net energy every 20 seconds, and it only makes chanelling last longer. I think you can bring it down to 9 at least... but depending on inspired hex for energy management isn't viable anymore with such a low energy gain since the nerf. -- Lania Elderfire 19:07, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Maybeee 12 heal, 10 divine, 8 insp, 2 prot? (without runes, that is) -Ichigo724 19:15, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Seeing a monk bar without some sort of protection is asking for death. I'd say run like 12+1+1 heal, 9+1 div, 8 inspiration, 5+1 prot and run healing touch/heal party/heal other, ethereal light/words of comfort, orison/words, shield of absorption/prot spirit, dismiss, channeling/power drain, holy veil/inspired, healer's boon. This allows at least some sort of ability to prot up extremely pressured targets, and still retains enough healing power. Heal party/heal other/healing touch really depends where you're running it. In HA heal party can rule on altars, while heal other is great for saving spikes. --Theonemephisto 19:37, 27 December 2006 (CST)
 * I run a very similar healing build, though I use a couple less points in inspiration and more in healing and swap the skills drain enchantment instead of channeling and Dwayna's Kiss instead of Healing Touch due to my preference in sticking as far back as possible (that's my pref, probably not the best option for power PvP'rs). Heal Other is not usually necessary with this sort of build because of the extra 50% from the elite and the double speedup from the enchants (and you can cast Healing Whisper quite quickly).  I rarely bring Heal Party on my monk because it's too expensive, but yes, it's invaluable (esp. on E/Mo).  Blood Ritual (or BiP) is nice to have on you with this build, and makes it much more maintain-able, but this build is still very vulernable to melee.--Falseprophet 18:34, 5 January 2007 (CST)
 * In HA, channeling is king, especially on altar maps. Heal other is used instead of infuse, allowing your HB monk to have the fast spike healing to take care of spikes.  Heal party + altars/spirit/minion + channeling = amazing.  Have you ever seen a HB monk just sitting on an altar, spamming HP and getting 10+ energy back per cast?  --Theonemephisto 12:28, 6 January 2007 (CST)

Who's the editor of this build? no one person seems to be consistantly editing this -- Lania Elderfire 12:18, 30 December 2006 (CST)

Why use Dismiss condition when you could use mend condition? Giangn626 10:22, 9 January 2007 (CST)
 * Dismiss Condition can be used on yourself, while Mend Condition is other ally only. The 1s extra recharge isn't that much, so it's down to a less conditional (not a pun. honest.) heal vs. being able to self-cure. GregPalo 10:41, 9 January 2007 (CST)

How Necessary is Holy Haste? Dropping it will allow for another heal (Infuse, most likely) as well as allow you to recast Channeling need be. It seems almost counter-productive in this build.
 * Reading Variants >.<--Nog64 17:16, 10 January 2007 (CST)

Changing the build
i think the attributes aren't really like they should be. 12 inspi is just overkill. so i propose this setting:

i would also change inspired hex for holy veil or ... even smite hex would be better o.O (all this has been said before). and finally, i've found this build also works in pve... resurrection chant as a 4 second res is just great. only needs some other energy managment :) - Y0_ich_halt  10:45, 25 January 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah this have been mentioned before, and I've said that too I belive... That does look good though since 12 insp before was way overkill.  That was basically the only thing that prevented me from casting a favored vote.  Not sure about the functionality in PvE though, mainly because of the dependance on chanelling which is a lot harder to use and is less effective in PvE.... but that also depends on the situation and the area too.  But for pvp I think chanelling is enough. Oh I also propose taking out the major rune too,  the meager increase in healing power isn't worth the -35hp. --Lania Elderfire 17:02, 25 January 2007 (CST)
 * i just use the major one because i also have a vitae and +27hp on my staff (which is a random drop btw) and with channeling read my comment again: "only needs some other energy managment" ;) - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] 09:41, 26 January 2007 (CST)
 * Ah I read it wrong :-), look at this . It's a PvE version of this build. --Lania Elderfire 21:18, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * wow, Rapta, that +1 protection prayers makes dismiss cond. heal for 4 more hp! that's amazing! ;) - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] 14:55, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 * That's what makes it ownage. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 14:59, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 * :D - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] 08:21, 1 February 2007 (CST)

PvE Tag
Can you tag this build for PvE? I think it fits there as well. ~ Nilles (msg) 02:59, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * This build isn't as effective as others for PvE, chanelling isn't a good e-management to use in PvE. --Lania Elderfire 22:28, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * it does work in pve i think (im using it there myself o.O). but im still looking for something to manage energy. til then good ol' WoH or BLight will have to do ;) ...let's see what the 4th gw brings. if it will ever exist. - Y0_ich_halt [[Image:Y0_ich_halt_logo.jpg|15px]] 07:24, 30 January 2007 (CST)

Dismiss Condition/Heal Other Variant
So Jamei's Gaze can be another variant? --68.209.227.3 22:45, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 * Jamei's Gaze is just the factions version of Heal Other. –Ichigo724[[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 22:51, 10 February 2007 (CST)