Talk:The Frost Gate (mission)

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Cartographer
Recently, while obtaining my Cartographer title, I noticed that if the snow wolf near the bridge dies while under the bridge, necrotic traversal brings you on top of the bridge, usually where you already are, and dont want to be. This got me to thinking. Inside the cave, killing an ettin or a dryder under the small bridge Rurik runs across, then using necrotic traversal on the corpse brings you to the top of the bridge, and thus to Rurik's path. This has worked for me everytime Ive done this mission, and I find it is much more reliable than the methods already posted. Perhaps somebody can confirm this for us and have it added to the page for future Cartographers. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.109.4.234 &bull; contribs) 19:42, 19 July 2006.


 * This trick no longer seems to work, using NT on the ettins just takes you to the corpse, rather than popping you on the bridge.Ynara 18:34, 12 January 2007 (CST)


 * I tested today and agree that this is a very easy way. It worked for me both times I tried it. I also tested killing things over me, and this took me up to their level as well. Basically, it seemed to me (guessing), that teleportation tends to favor the top level, regardless of the corpse location. There are benefits, however, to teleporting earlier in the Frost Gate mission, since this breaks the mission and it will not fail when Rurik dies. (I read that you have to rush because Rurik might die, but in my experience this did not happen when I warped back up after leaving Rurik behind (basically, by skipping a couple of Engineers you force him to stay behind and he is later moved forward by a cut scene)). Also, the 0.4% I wrote about was measured with screen shots before and after, and should be reasonably accurate minus any rounding. --Alphastream 17:20, 2 August 2006 (CDT)


 * If you run to the end and kill the first stone summit that rurik will attack (just leave the two that spawn afterwards) before his cutscene, after the cutscene he will not attack but just stand still. If the mission does indeed fail because of his death, this is a (rather tedious) way of avoiding that.


 * To use the first option (Ice Golems kill Rurik's Guard(s)) the spawns for the Ice Golems must JUST right. There are MANY spawns where you can't get both Golems to attack the guards at once. If only one Golem attacks the the guard(s) then they will NOT die, BOTH Golems are needed to kill them. To give you a feel of this I had to do 45 runs to get 2 correct spawns. ALL other spawns meant that the first of the Ice Golems could not be aggroed far enough to get it to latch onto a one of Rurik's Guards. Raxous 05:00, 5 January 2007 (CST)

I just did this and only obtained .1% of my title that was not obtainable normally. I also merely waited for the first ice golem to kill a guard (the one right where you first see rurik)... it takes like 2 minutes... and it works every time.

Dialogue
Cleaning screenshots, but I'm not entirely certain where to put this:
 * (at the beginning)
 * Prince Rurik: Those Stone Summit ballistae are guarding the pass to the Frost Gate!
 * (slightly further)
 * Prince Rurik: Destroy them so we may lead our people through!
 * (a bit further)
 * Prince Rurik: We dare not move forward until they are destroyed!

And when doing the bonus:
 * (when first spoken to)
 * Rornak Stonesledge: Just me luck. I've been caught again.
 * Rornak Stonesledge: The Stone Summit are tryin' to buid a new and devastatin' siege weapon. King Ironhammer sent me in to steal the plans.
 * Rornak Stonesledge: There is a decrepit ballista pointed to the east. Take me to it, and I'll help ye blast open the doors that keep safe the plans.
 * (taken to the ballista)
 * Rornak Stonesledge: It should work now. Ye can fire it at the doors.
 * Rornak Stonesledge: After ye blast open the doors, return the secret plans to me.
 * (when given the plans)
 * Rornak Stonesledge: Any friend of Rornak Stonesledge is a friend of Deldrimor Dwarves. Many thanks, friend.

Just a quick question I am guessing that Ronak Stonesledge must live to obtain the bonus.

Bug?
Whilst going for the cartographer title Rurik managed to die whilst fighting two stone summit gnashers off the minimap, though the missin let me continue. I had not unlocked all of the gate mechanisms yet, and once i did i recieved mission reward even though Rurik had died! Don't know if this is isolated or whether it has happened before, but i have screen shot proof if anybody requires it. ~ Hunter Darkbow 01/06/07 (edited, typos and i had "bonus" not "mission reward", i did not do bonus, already had it done)