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Errors
A lot of the time I go onto GuildWiki (but not all the time) my Firebug error tracker repeatedly picks up this error:

urchinTracker is not defined var wgCatId;

Also sometimes I'm given another urchinTracker error with something along the lines of this (different green lines denote different error messages):

urchinTracker is not defined if (wgUserName == null) ...     if (wgIsArticle) ...      if (skin == null) ...

It also sometimes catches a div tag in the green part. Also, Firebug will not work at the moment, and the first bug on the huge list (which has been stacking up each time I change pages) is:

Any clue? --Gimmethegepgun 21:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like a Wikia problem to me, I suggest moving this to the staff noticeboard. It's probably not a site-breaking problem though so I wouldn't worry too much about it. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Does this happen on both monobook and Monaco, or just monobook? --KyleH (talk) 04:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked, the Urchintracker thing is still there in Monaco as well as monobook --Gimmethegepgun 02:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Special:Wantedpages
Some pages seem to be showing up in here more than once, and the extra copies say they have different numbers of links to them. But they both link to the same whatlinkshere page, with the same links. For example, R/N Touch Ranger shows up at least twice, the first saying it has 24 links, the second saying it has 21.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 01:36, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Those ones that are for builds also seem to be borked, because if you click the Whatlinkshere link you'll see that none of them are even linked. Probably needs a system cache purge --Gimmethegepgun 02:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * More than likely it's due to transclusions, and the fact that the wiki engine deals with refreshing link counts (among other things) only when an article gets edited. When a source article is created with a link to a certain article, say "Article A", that adds 1 to Article A's link count.  When another article is created that transcludes the first article, then Article A's link count is again increased by 1.  However, there's still only 1 actual link to Article A, and it exists on the transcluded article.  When the transcluded article gets edited to change the link, Article A's link count is decreased by 1.  The count that the transcluding article added for Article A will not be removed until that article gets edited again.  The system cache definitely needs to be purged if we've got incorrect link counts for articles that were deleted a year ago.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just relayed that information to our tech team so they can take a look at it. Thanks! --KyleH (talk) 17:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The deletion log
Is borked? See this. Note that the offset number in that URL is approximately one decillion, and it's showing edits from august 2007.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 02:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It went back beyond the beginning of time and wrapped around, obviously d-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 02:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay everyone's back and I've still got all my teeth! --Xasxas256 02:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, just fyi, it shows those entries for any offset number of 10000 or higher.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 17:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering the "correct" behavior is probably "ERROR! Invalid offset! Go delete more pages!", I doubt this is high on the priority list to fix... -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 18:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's not what the correct behavior should be. Perhaps using an offset of one decillion wasn't the best example. Look at the deletion log with an offset of 10000 and with an offset of 10500. They show the exact same entries. But go to the bottom of the page and look at the date of the last entry - July 9th, 2007. The builds wipe was in May of 2007, so there should be entries in the log after that, but you can click "next 500" forever and it will never get to them, it'll just keep showing the same 500. Those entries are still in the log - if you search for a specific user you can see them, and you can probably see them if you search for a specific page, but you can't see them without specifying a user or an article.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 21:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 21:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I reported this issue to our tech team so they can take a look at it. --KyleH (talk) 17:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Done, but with errors...
Displays every time I load an "Edit" page. No clue what the errors are, but it always takes forever to load and Edit page, and then another forever to preview/save it. Wikia sucks... >_< (This edit page was still loading when I was done typing all this, never finished before I hit "Save" just kept "waiting on ...pagead2.google....blablabla...  Aaaaaand.... still "Waiting...")  RoseOfKali  04:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Spam filter - false positives
There are a number of pages being blocked by the spam filter for no apparent reason. The common thread seems to be pagenames that end with a trailing slash. These are the pages that I have seen blocked: The talk pages for these articles also get blocked by the spam filter. Bot ishmael 20:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Bump. These pages really need to be edited as they contain a lot of redlinks.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Agree Random Time 19:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The solution, of course, is to change the page names. I got the the bottom 4 moved, then I was throttled. I'm hoping this doesn't create too many double redirects. mendel 23:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I would argue that those pages should be moved, they have no good reason to have a slash at the end of their names. Additionally, lots of spam bots like to create random page with names ending with slash. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Taken care of - Mendel had already moved them all, and I deleted the redirects. Only two of them had anything linking to them (from within the same user's space), which I fixed.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 00:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually you never know what external forum posts etc. may be linking to articles that we move - maybe it'd be best to keep the redirects. It doesn't hurt, does it? mendel 00:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Redirects
Are currently borked on Image pages --Gimmethegepgun 15:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Known issue. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 16:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Been known for how long now...?--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 16:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Special:Uncategorizedpages
See this. It doesn't seem to want to show anything past the 1000th page. Even though there's definitely at least one uncategorized page with a title starting with a letter after M. It's possible this is related to the issue with the deletion log I reported above.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( talk ) 03:45, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That is a common occurrence on most similar Specialpages, I've noticed. See User:Dr ishmael/todo - Special:Longpages, Special:Shortpages, Special:Uncategorizedimages, Special:Uncategorizedtemplates, Special:Wantedpages, and Special:Lonelypages are all ones I remember that do that.  Special:Unusedimages was an exception, for some reason.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Last time I asked about this one, I was told "it's a feature, not a bug" ;) The idea is that users fix the problems in the first 1000 or so, and others move up the list to be fixed.  If it's a big problem, I may be able to find out if there is a setting that can be adjusted, but in general we'll go with the devs reply. -- sannse (talk) 11:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * For ones like Wantedpages, Longpages, or Shortpages, I can understand that, since they are sorted by number of links or page length, and in those cases this "feature" makes sense - a redlink that appears 200 times needs to be fixed much more than one that only appears 2 times. The Uncategorized and Unused lists, though, don't have a set ordering scheme (they seem to be mostly alphabetical or by creation date, but not entirely), so in those cases I'd have to call this a "bug".  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The reasoning is, that all those pages are provided to help people fix the issues on them. So showing 1000 is plenty for people to work on, selecting each and adding a category, or linking the image... and once those are done, the next 1000 will be visible -- sannse (talk) 21:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * One reason for this being useful is that you might have a list of pages from some other source (say, all pages that start with "Game update") and want to find out which of these are also uncategorized = find which pages are on both lists (which AWB can do for you, I believe). Having only a partial list available isn't going to cut it. --mendel 01:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems that enough people didn't like this for the software to be changed by the MediwAiki developers :) I'm told that a future version will change this - you will be able to scroll though all the listed articles.  -- sannse (talk) 17:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Message upon Opening Page
Every time I open a new page (Eg go to refresh RC- its everywhere :|) a little box saying "Guildwars.wikia.com asks: does a box come up? Ok." Dunno what it is :| &mdash; Warw/Wick 10:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That means your User:Warwick/monobook.js isn't completely broken d-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 10:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just blocked wikia.com with noscript, wikied stopped working (D:), and so did my personal preferances from my .js, but at least the irritating box went away! Yay! :p &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 10:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Paan! That was mean d-:.. Good prank though.. Gets me thinking about next april fools.. >_> &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 10:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not a prank. You told me your entire Monobok.js was broken, I was testing that claim. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 10:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Eh, you told me "the whole thing" wasn't working. That would've included WikiEd too.  Grr... -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 10:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Bot posts triggering new messages notice
We have found that if a bot posts on a user's talk page, it does not seem to trigger the new messages notice. I have found no information indicating that this is normal behavior. The only special feature of a bot is that its edits do not show up in recent changes by default because of their flag. We would like to use bots to leave important notices on user's talk pages and if the bot doesn't trigger the new messages notice, they won't know about it. Is this a bug or some setting that can be changed? We are discussing it primarily in relation to Bot tasks/License reminder but I bet we will have other reasons to perform similar tasks in the future. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 18:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heya! The reason that the bot is not triggering notification messages is because it is marking the changes as minor changes.  By default, users to not receive notification of bot edits marked as minor edits.  Try leaving the messages as non-minor edits and see if notification works properly.  You can find more details here  --KyleH (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not something I would've guessed, but that's exactly what it was. I got a notification for my bot editing my talk page as a non-minor edit.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kyle. Good to know. Could have sworn I read that exact page yesterday when I was looking for my answer though... must have missed it. I can easily change it so the bot's edits are not minor. &mdash;♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥  18:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)