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Rare mini pricecheck please!
If anyone knows the recent going prices for the purple ultra-rare minis, I'd really like to know. Heard that Grawl was about 100+20 - 100+35. No clue on the other three or if this one is correct... Anyone know? Thx. RoseOfKali 19:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, pricecheck all of these if you can.

If you have a different price than one that's listed, please post your in addition, do not remove the previous. Add your source if you can, like did you see it for sale or just heard a pc or saw someone buying. All undedicated please. Thx much. RoseOfKali 19:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Greased Lightning - 1000e pc
 * Polar Bear - 1500-1750e pc
 * Vizu - 450e pc
 * Kanaxai - $5,000 USD on ebay... O_O
 * Ghostly Hero - 1100e for sale... 1500e pc... 1000-1750e pc
 * Shiro'ken Assassin - 800e for sale... 650e pc
 * Zhed Shadowhoof
 * Island Guardian
 * Panda
 * Grawl - 100k+19e bought
 * Longhair Yeti - 130e pc, 150e pc
 * Naga Raincaller - 130e pc, 220e for sale
 * Oni - 200e for sale, 250e pc


 * Don't pin me on it, but I think the prices for naga, oni and yeti are way to low. I think the naga is around ten times as much, but I am not sure. I have neaver seen a polar bear being sold, but I don't do things on e-bay. The rest of the mini's are bound to be very expansive, count on price around 500e - 1200 e.

1 tip though. Go and stand in Kamadan america 1 for a while and ask ppl for prices on these mini's. you'r bound to get some responces. Say so if the things i say here are mad ravings, so i can get my brain straigt. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 11:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I already knew about Kamadan, but I don't feel like wasting time there. Anything up in the list that says "for sale" are prices that I have seen people selling them for, so your price estimate for Naga is either really really wrong, or the seller I saw was an idiot.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 20:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I wouldn't even conceive the idea of buying a mini on Ebay, the Kanaxai bit was just something I find hilarious. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 20:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I looked and asked around a bit. Greased Lightning 1000e; Ghostly Hero 1000e-1750e; Polar Bear 1500e-1750e. Hope it help. I can't even imagine having more then half a stack of ectos @_@ &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 13:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks... O_O *realizes she needs to start ecto farming like there's no tomorrow* RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 17:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I asked to be told if my ravings were mad. And they are! (YAY!) But I only have memories of Naga's and stuff being so expensive. And i was kinda right about the rest of the mini's XD Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 10:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

please see...
Talk:Necromancer Tyrian armor/Male - I did a random search for my username in mainspace and found your comment in the stub tag on that article. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 01:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Necromancer armor galleries
Please see User:Dr ishmael/Sandbox - I changed the template to set a fixed height, instead of a fixed width, for the images, so those galleries will look just fine in the template now. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 14:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Fixed height? Sounds familar... ;-P --◄mendel► 14:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "INAFR!" ? ^^ --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  16:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Ishmael. I didn't even think about that.  And just to think, I was the one who "lobbied" for fixed height in the profession armor reference pages, like Necromancer armor, etc.  I think I'm getting dumber since I finished college...  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 23:05, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah...
"...I think I'm gonna go plant a bomb in D.C. and go out with a "bang" if nothing else... :(" --> I suggest taking that off your page before the government sees it and marks you as a terrorist.. Mitch Spiritslayer 18:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Too late. ;)--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]ìğá†ħŕášħ  18:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * She did at least acknowledge it wasn't a real threat, eh? :P [[Image:Rsz_PLSig.jpg‎]] 18:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah... But can you blame me? RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 23:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Necromancer armor
Hello, I have a question about the male necromancer elite scars armor. What would you consider a "complete" gallery for that? The scars don't dye(the speedo doesn't either) and they look different on different skin tones. Thanks. Wanmoke 20:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC) Wanmoke


 * Well, actually, they don't look different on different skin tones at all. They are black, and so they're easy to see on light skin, and hard to see on dark, that's all.  It's kind of like the Istani/Sunspear armors that have a shaded skin area that you can only see on light skin.  I would suggest doing that gallery on a light-skinned character, and noting that the armor does not dye at all, and that the black scars do not stand out as much on dark skin as they do on light.  As far as colorables go, you can either ask Ishmael to modify the standard armor template to allow a non-colorable gallery (kind of a far fetch, since this is the only set in the whole game that does not dye), or you can just take the code straight and modify the colorables area to simply say that this armor set cannot be dyed.  Another simple solution would be to just use the standard template and upload the undyed images as dyed too, and including a note in the colorable section (check the template on which note # it is, I can't remember) saying that this armor set cannot be dyed, and say "any color" for the color field.  Also, if you really want to, you can use a dark skinned character in the colorables section, and say something like "this armor set cannot be dyed at all, but is very distinct on light skin, and blends in with dark skin."  If you need help with the code, let me know.  With exceptions like this one, the rule of thumb is just use common sense, and there usually isn't a "best" solution.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 20:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright. Only problem is all my male necromancers are dark skinned.  >.<  Thanks for the quick reply thought.  Wanmoke 21:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, Wan's a guildie of mine, and I recommended he ask you about this. You're right, I could of course edit the template to allow an optional dyed section, but you're also right that this is the only armor where it would be used.  I like your suggestion of having images on light vs. dark skin, although we'd have to suffer with the current light-skinned images for now.  I have a light-skinned necro, but he's Canthan and I'd have to run him down to the Grotto to get the armor.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 21:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Small world. :) I agree that the best way would probably be the dual skin tone set. We've suffered with the current gallery for long enough, a little longer won't make any difference.  I'd offer to run you to Grotto, but I'm not much of a runner, I mostly play casters. :P Anyway, you can have Wan do the 3 "colorable" shots on dark skin to show the "blending in" effect, and then get your pale necro to do the overview and component once you get it, since the scars are almost impossible do discern on really dark skin.  I think that would be the best way to go, and you don't have to mess with the template.  This follows the same reasoning as when I created dark-skinned mules to do the Nightfall Necromancer headgear screenshots - you can only see them on dark.  Colorables note: "Dye has no effect on any part of this armor set.  The black scars will blend in with darker skin tones." (or something like that, you're good with writing notes.) If you want to elaborate on the dyes, you can say that it will ACCEPT dyes, but it will have no visual effect.  I've tried dye-previewing this on my female's male mule, and I could preview every piece, but there was no color change, as you already know. Good luck. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 06:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ishy: If you want, I could help you some time to get to Grotto. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  14:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the offer, but we're good now, except for crafting materials. Wan has access to a friend's account who doesn't play anymore, and he had a pale male necro at Droknar's, which we took through the missions over to the Grotto last night.  If you've got any wood, dust, or feathers you'd like to give away, though, we'd be happy to take them. :D  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 15:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Get online <3 --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  15:20, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * 250 50  20  Catch me if you can. ;) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 17:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I see you online, but you're away. Now I know why; you're spending all your time on here.  ^_^  I'd really appreciate those mats if you can spare them. Wanmoke 19:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Quote
"There are few if not no hackers that are not out to destroy the world."

Let's simplify that to "There are no hackers that are not out to destroy the world."

That means as much as "Every hacker is out to destroy the world", because there isn't one that isn't, so all must be.

Undo the simplification, and it means "All but a few hackers are out to destroy the world".

This doesn't summarize as "hackers are virtually harmless". --◄mendel► 22:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Exactly. He was trying to say that most hackers are virtually harmless, which makes the triple negative even funnier.  Thanks for the exhaustive analysis, though. :) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 02:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * White Hats are quite nice people actually. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 02:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh?! [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh...no. I was talking about so-called "White Hat hackers". Now you've ruined my reference. :\ [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 02:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC)