Talk:Nearby

Just... WHAT? 08:13, 7 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * It's describing the actual range of skills that effect "nearby." The skills listed resurrect "nearby" allies, etc.  --Fyren 16:25, 7 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Yes, perhaps "WHAT" isn't explicit enough. If the term "nearby" varies for every skill then perhaps the skills should not be linked. Surely it is worthwhile just saying in the notes "The actual range of this skill is..."? 21:32, 7 Aug 2005 (EST)
 * Heh, sorry. It isn't the first time I've had to decypher an Ollj page for someone else.  You're right.  --Fyren 02:54, 8 Aug 2005 (EST)

There is actually no "nearby" spell I used that covers half aggro range or full aggro range. All nearby spells are basically a full circle of red dots around the current red dot you are targetting. Much smaller than aggro range. --Karlos 03:13, 8 Aug 2005 (EST)

The online manual list the ranges:
 * Adjacent: An area of effect that equals 156 inches from the target point. This is the smallest area of effect.
 * Nearby: An area of effect that is equal to 240 inches.
 * In the location: An area of effect that is equal to 312 inches. This is the largest possible area of effect.

I've also added some more ranges to Area of Effect. --Tetris L 05:03, 6 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * Bleh. There's been testing done by the people at the gwonline.net forums.  The ranges vary between skills even with the same term.  So, two spells that say "nearby" DON'T have the same range, though in general (they found an exception), that range is larger than "adjacent."  --Fyren 06:25, 6 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * Bleh. I wonder how they did the testing. It'd be damn hard to make precise measurements and to tell the difference between 13, 20 and 26 feet, considering all of these distances are small compared to the aggo circle of 88 feet. Anyway ... these are the official numbers and I've got no reason to believe that the GW code doesn't measure distances correctly. --Tetris L 15:10, 6 Sep 2005 (EST)


 * Double-Bleh, we have to recognize by now that ArenaNet's standards of documentation are not that high to begin with. Quite frankly, listing those areas of effect in inches is in and of itself proof that the guy who wrote that part is either a lousy developer or a pizza delivery guy.
 * I'll give you an easy example: Meteor Shower and Chain Lightning have the exact same "area of effect," the magic word here being "Near." That said, they recently (during PvPX) announced that they "tightened" Chain Lightning a bit, and as an avid user of both, I can tell you that it is true, Chain Lightning has become narrower in effect. Yet, both still use the same loose fitting word "near."
 * I am not saying ignore the manual or official word altogether, but when official word conflicts with reality in the game, I think we have enough reasons now to ignore what the documents say. --Karlos 15:41, 6 Sep 2005 (EST)
 * If we have evidence that the official numbers are not always correct, then maybe we should list them, but with a NOTE. --Tetris L 16:21, 6 Sep 2005 (EST)