User talk:The-True-Bim

Augmented Flesh
Can anyone tell me what Factions monster drops this item or how is it obtained? Thank You.

Hi there
Hi there, are you also the owner of User:Brother Bim nad User:The True Bim? At least from the User page it seems to be so. I just want to bring to your attention that having three different user accounts with the exact same guild advertisement banner is getting on some people's nerves. If the other two user pages were also created by you, it'd solve much contention within the community if you can remove the userpage contents of your old accounts (though whether guild advertisements should be allowed at all is being debated too). -PanSola 07:24, 15 May 2006 (CDT)

Removed the material in questioning. If anyone did find this "advertisement" as it has so been put, offensive or was simply upsetting them in any way, then it would have been better to have done what you did and actually notify me of it. Cheers and thank you for making me aware of this!

I didn't intentionally mean to "advertise" it and I'm currently removing it from other accounts. Is it possible to delete accounts on Guild Wiki? I made new ones as I had problems logging into my account, when I solved the problem I no longer needed the other 2.

--The True Bim 15:51, 15 May 2006 (CDT)


 * Actually, at this stage, it's still not clear what degree of mentioning guilds on a user's page should be permitted. If you want to sidestep any controversy entirely, then it's safest to remove any mention.  Otherwise, there have been multiple freedom-of-speech vs. reasonable-use-restriction vs. GuildWiki-practices/policies vs. high-blood-pressure-of-many-users debates all over the wiki recently.  If you leave the mention in for now, until the issue is resolved, you're probably safe.  At the very least, it gives yet another place for the issue to be debated.  It's just a question of if you want to avoid controversy (at least until you get a better feel for the community), or if you want to push the limits and see what happens. --161.88.255.140 16:10, 15 May 2006 (CDT)

Hi, and sorry. I was the one who originally raised up the discussion about your user page. However, your page wasn't the only one. I had just read through a lot of the user pages in the userlist and your user page and one other users user page seemed like pure advertisements to me, more so as you and him had never made any contributions to the wiki. I however didn't mark the pages for deletion, I went to User talk:Rainith to ask for him to make a decision. After this a few people made this into a big 'fight'. Now it is clear that you are active and that your only purpse wasn't to advert your guild. I don't recommend having the old stuff back on your user page yet, as it is uncertain wether or not people are allowed to have such advertisement-like things for guilds on their user pages. Hopefully people will decide soon. I should have contacted you on your talk page, but I do not feel that I acted too wrong because I started a discussion, I didn't mark your user page for deletion. -- 01:17, 16 May 2006 (CDT)

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Bim, welcome to the Wiki! I hope the discussion that you accidentally stepped in didn't turn you off regarding the wiki; it's really a great community.

Don't worry about the content that you had originally posted. As long as you're not posting ads in articles, and not linking from articles into ads, you should be fine. Many users, including many regular contributors, have references to their guilds within their user pages. Just look at Gem's user page, even it mentions "For professional running services visit runningrangers.net or rrforums.tk!", and has a section further down the page describing that guild. I honestly believe that the only thing that caused your page to receive special attention was the fact that it listed the guild and no other information.

Feel free to join in on the Wiki community. Contribute, discuss, and don't be afraid to tell us about yourself and/or your Guild Wars characters. As you can see from many other user pages, people tend to post infor about their in-game characters (except mine, I'm lazy). If you added that content, your guild listing would likely not be an issue at all (not that I even thought it was one now, but it would be even less of an issue).

Your original listing didn't start the debate; there has been long-running discussions about what can and cannot be placed on a user page. So far, the only thing specifically barred is anything of an illegal nature. Everything else, from Guild advertising, to swearing, to off-topic discussions and tirades have been discussed with no clear agreement on what is and is not appropriate. Stay tuned, and feel free to join in on that or any other discussion. --161.88.255.140 15:29, 17 May 2006 (CDT)