Talk:Range

Where did the numbers of this article come from?
Melee can hit up to barely the inside of the second layer of concentric circles. There is no way that is only 1/80th of the longbow range. I can believe touch is 2ft, but not melee.

Additionally, this article is entirely inconsistent with Bow, at a ratio of approximately 3/4.

Thus I would very much like to find out where the numbers used for this article come from. -PanSola 09:56, 13 February 2006 (CST)


 * Well, I foudn the numbers on the website, but also found blatant inconsistency in the numbers. Removed all feet measurements, substituted with some radius measurements that are more meaningful. -PanSola 22:13, 17 February 2006 (CST)


 * The numbers were taken from the offical website! I'll dig up the link again if you give me a minute. I hope I find it, since ANet have restructured their site. The numbers can be found in the Prima Guide too, consistent with www.guildwars.com. -- 22:32, 17 February 2006 (CST)


 * Dammit, I can't find it any more. It was in the Online Manual, in the Glossary. -- 22:38, 17 February 2006 (CST)


 * Ha! It's still there, just not linked to from the main page any more. But Google still has it listed: -- 22:40, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 * Um, that was NOT the source of the info I deleted... The numbers that I removed came from here. -PanSola 22:45, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 * I know the numbers can be found in the website. It's still there. BUT I also know the info is wrong.  Go to Nameless Isle and test the ratio of Melee range vs "Adjacent".  -PanSola 22:42, 17 February 2006 (CST)

Ok, I've found the range info on Prima Guide (cept I don't see nature ritual range) AND IT IS WRONG!
 * "Adjacent" range is NOT more 6.5 times greater than Melee and Touch range
 * Flatbow range is NOT shorter than Shortbow
 * Shortbow range is NOT significantly longer than aggro circle

While the ratio between adjacent, nearby, and "in the location" is correct, you need to give me a very good reason to believe those feet measurements.

What does a "feet" mean in the game? In the Real World, "feet" and "hands" are used in some cultures as common measurement because it is something they can easily compare by (adults of the same ethnicity have a relatively consistent foot/hand size). In GuildWars land, you can't directly measure things by feet. Things that easily measured are with respect to aggro circle and radar. After that is the Isle of the Nameless testing radius. That is why I picked them for the basis of my measurements. -PanSola 22:58, 17 February 2006 (CST)