GuildWiki talk:New henchmen project

Unique henchmen
I noted on the table here which new henchmen have seemingly unique models. My wife is pretty well-versed in the imagery of Guild Wars and spotted quite a few (models as well as emotes) that I didn't immediately recognize. I did some dpl-generated image gallery searches for the ones she didn't know, and I found one that way, but the rest of these truly seem to be unique. If anyone else wants to go gallery-spelunking, here's a sample of the dpl I used (remove comments before use):

category=*Vabbi           <-- The * means to use this cat's subcats; ** means sub-subcats uses=Template:BeastInfo linksto=Human             <-- So we don't get heket and skree and everything else... include={BeastInfo}:image <-- Some pages don't use this parm since it defaults to .jpg, so we do miss a few images columns=5 format=,,,

Just preview that and look through the images, no need to save the page. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 21:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd call this "awesome," but that hardly does your work justice! Nicely done. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tennessee Ernie Ford (contribs).


 * So when you say "a sub page to compare the choices," do you mean a page listing all of their skill bars? That would be way too large to put directly on the outpost pages, even as a transclusion, I'd think.  Could we just list the henchmen on the HA/GH pages with a link to a QR page?  "Heroes' Ascent henchmen quick reference" for example, for anyone who wants do comparisons like that.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 03:43, November 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmn &mdash; I think you are correct that the comparison ought not be on the HA/GH pages. I like your idea of HA and GH Quick reference articles. If we were clever, we could setup things so that the comparison article grabs the skillbars from the hench pages (therefore only needing to keep one article up-to-date; I'm sure ANet will tweak the pvp henchbars at some point before GW2).  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 04:21, November 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * I can try to whip up some dpl for that in the morning. This is the best I can get right now - a simple listing of the skills used by each henchman.

category=Henchmen (Core) nottitlematch=Zaishen% linksto=Guild Hall uses=Template:Skill icon include={skill icon}:1 format=::::{|class=stdt\n!henchman\n!skills\n|-,\n|%TITLE%,\n|-,\n|} secseparators=\n|,
 * I can't figure out if there's any way to insert formatting between the skill names, since they're taken from multiple calls of the same template. If they were different parameters of a template or different templates, I could turn it into a skill bar, but...
 * Maybe we should just put skill bars on the henchmen pages instead of a listing of skill icons. We'd have to make a special copy of Template:Skill bar that doesn't rely on #ifexist (and clean out a bunch of the other fancy stuff for dealing with empty or optional slots), otherwise we'd exceed the limit for expensive parser calls on the QR page (100, and there'd be 20*8 = 160).  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll get to work on that, see what I can do, though knowing nothing of dpl, I'll try a more conventional method --Gimmethegepgun 06:19, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, after some work, got a preliminary that uses an if statement only if you use a different row template because the bar has Faintheartedness on it. Good as far as I can tell, though someone may want to make it minutely prettier or something. Too tired/bored to finish up the list, so if anyone wants to and then move to main or something, go right ahead. Also, minor job to use bigger prof icons or just the name or both name and icon, idk, idc --Gimmethegepgun 07:58, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * That prelim looks purty darn good! I like the 'steel' background and the larger size for the text (at least it seems larger to me than other bars). Some of the skills seem to have emboldened lettering; I think the non-bold reads easier. Nice work!  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 08:19, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * "'Steel' background"? Also, no, the text size is exactly the same as it is in the skillbar template, as the spacing is exactly the same for everything (copied directly and trimmed to cut out parsers), and none of them are bold. So... I really have no idea about anything you commented on :P --Gimmethegepgun 08:34, November 22, 2009 (UTC)