Talk:Winter

Hi, a newbie here.

I read somewhere on Guild Hall that Greater Conflagation + Winter does not work, can someone check this?
 * It is said that GC needs to be put down before Winter for the combo to take effect. I didn't personally test this though. -PanSola 11:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I just tested Winter + GC in the guild hall and it converted all damage to cold no matter what (I think I tested both combinations although it was a little bit chaotic ;). Most interestingly though, Kindle Arrows (or a fiery string or GC) and Winter still triggered Conjure Flame and not Conjure Frost, although all the damage received (from bow, Kindle Arrows and Conjure Flame) counted as cold damage. (Mantra of Frost triggered 3 times per attack.) --Ts 17:07, 6 August 2006 (CDT)
 * That's because Conjure Flame does its bonus damage based on whether or not you have a "fire weapon," sending out fire damage. Winter just converts the damage type after the trigger is pulled, so to say. Mujaki 01:59, 27 September 2006 (CDT)
 * So if you were to bring winter and kindle arrows, would you want conjure frost or conjure flame? I tried it with conjure frost and it didn't seem to work--Devils Apprentice 19:15, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
 * OK answered my own questiong, went and tried again with conjure flame instead and it triggered.--Devils Apprentice 19:17, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Winter + Air Magic skills
Does Winter also neutralize the armor penetration inherent in many Air Magic skills, or does the penetration carry over despite the change in damage type?


 * armor penetration has nothing to do with the damage type, so the latter is true. - 19:28, 9 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Yes, the armor penetration is associated with certain skills, not with lightning damage. --Karlos 01:09, 10 June 2006 (CDT)


 * OK, thanks. I have a tendency to make things more complicated than they really are.  --HopefulNebula 23:12, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

How does this work with Stone Striker and Mantra of Earth? Shido 11:59, 15 December 2006 (CST)

I second that. Does Winter take effect before, or after Stone Striker? Judging by the evidence presented by GC, I'd say that it takes effect after. Still, GC is a spirit and SS is an enchantment. Possibly affected by the order of coming into play?