Talk:Divine Boon

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It might also be useful to note, that the healing from Divine Boon is applied before anything else ... this is very evident when using a spell like Word of Healing when the party members' health is just a tad below 50% ... the boon will put them over 50, and you don't get the bonus from Word.Geblah187 16:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That has been changed a LONG time ago d-: -PanSola 01:49, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Oops I was thinking the Divine Favor bonus. Just verified the above claim is true using lv1 bone fiend.  But not sure whether this note belongs in Word of Healing or here. -PanSola 02:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Nightfall Preview Nerf
As of last night, Boon still had a 10s recharge IIRC. Has it been de-nerfed yet? --Lemming 17:03, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
 * No, none of the changes the patch notes said were temporary have been restored. (They never changed the Balthazar's aura description, but it's been 8s since the patch.)  --68.142.14.106 17:08, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Phew. I was panicking after I saw that Balth's Aura's description said 10s again. Guess who didn't play smite over the weekend? ;) --Lemming 17:23, 1 August 2006 (CDT)

Reverts
Back and forth and no discussion hehe. Lets just say: Most people dont use P&H together with boon, because (even in the same attribute line) P&H is just a bad energy management skill. --Xeeron 06:28, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

I reverted bcos it doesn't even make sense. So what if it counteracts the loss of one pip - what about the main energy loss - the +2 cost to skills??? No reason not use an inspiration elite &mdash; Skuld 06:50, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * That is, 63 healed for 2 energy, just because thats not your style of energy management doesnt mean it's not a valid way of monking. I have been using boon and PnH together for a very long time, and I know many other monks who do also. I Don't have energy problems because all of my 5 mana heals are huge spike heals. IMHO MoR and OOB are a waste, and just because you disagree that is no reason to remove a note mentioning it. When I first capped PnH my first thought was: I can go pure monk and boon heal. If you want to fight about different healing strategies take it to a forum, Boon and PnH is a valid and usefull healing combo that is widely used and as such there is no harm in it being mentioned here. Mercurius Ter Maxim 15:09, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * There is much harm in mentioning it here - wiki no being taken seriously by such a poor suggestion :| &mdash; Skuld 15:11, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

You had no right in reverting that without talk. I don't know where I stand with RV1.. can anyone help here? &mdash; Skuld 14:18, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Everyone, stop reverting. There are 5 reverts in the recent history. Discuss this first. The way I see it, yes you can monk with boon and P&H. I can also monk with breeze and the henchies do it all the time. Look, in GW, you can make a lot of different builds but I don't think we should list any suggestions except those that are extremely common and the general consensus of the community. If we list stuff like "well I've tried it and it works decently", then the skill articles will be filled with...less useful info. P&H is specifically designed for use on multiple monks. This comment only indicates using it for yourself. Thus, it is less useful. --Vortexsam 16:07, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Please show your sources from GW devs showing that it was " specifically designed for use on multiple monks". If as I suspect you do not have one, your comment is just speculation, and as such you really shouldnt pose as an authority on the matter. Mercurius Ter Maxim 17:41, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
 * The same request could be made of your statement below "pnh was made for boon". Also, keep in mind that your statement "Finally this isnt the place for people to impose their opinions" applies equally well to yourself. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:44, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

Comparison tables
Mercurius, take a look at these two tables (copied right from the skill pages of P&H and MoR), especially the "energy per second line". --Xeeron 16:22, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Yeah, suggesting a trashy elite is bad. A much better note would be to suggest Mantra of Recall or Energy Drain for elite energy management. Also, a link to Boon prot would fit nicely in there too. -Savio 18:46, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Added a couple links, removed the P&H note as Mercurius is the only one arguing in favor of it. --Fyren 19:05, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * --Where is the healing loss table from wasting attribs on insperation? and where is the 10 cost for mor, the extra 5 cost for CoP (you mentioned boon prot) or the fact that 1.) you need to be in agro range to use energy drain, and 2.) it requires target foe to have the energy required in order for the gain to be the expected amount. Finally this isnt the place for people to impose their opinions. pnh was made for boon.


 * with a 20% enchant mod at 16 divine favor it is basically a FREE pip of energy the difference between 12 and 16 DF for boon is 12 + 13 thats 25 healed.


 * Perhaps if there were a table that actually took all variables into account yours would be a valid argument, as of now it's just more groupthink. Mercurius Ter Maxim 17:36, 18 September 2006 (CDT)