Talk:Vocal Minority

Uh, wow. This is pretty much a complete area-wide Paragon shutdown, and it isn't Elite? O_O Arshay Duskbrow 18:31, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Not just paragon shutdown, this is ViM and IWAY shutdown. Lightblade 19:38, 25 October 2006 (CDT)

Someone can check my math if they want but as far as I can tell, at 16 curses the duration on this will be 21 seconds, exactly equal to cast + cooldown, meaning literally complete shout and chant shutdown, which i get the impression would be quite lethal to a Paragon. --Colonel Popcorn 22:36, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 * yes and no - In the Area means you need to be reasonably close. Hex removal gets rid of it and the Paragon's own skill Lyric of Purification can be used - provided the lyric is used before the necro casts (but be careful of necros covering with 1 second hexes if you do that - best to have a hex removal secondary if you're a shout/chant Paragon).  Even better, use a secondary knockdown as they approach and then Awe them, which should give you time to counter most anything. --146.122.71.143 18:47, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm pretty sure that means "in the area of the hexed foe", which means the casting Necro doesn't need to be close at all. Arshay Duskbrow 19:09, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 * bad verbage - I meant the targets need to be relatively close together (but in the area is still pretty big).--146.122.71.143 10:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

The icon looks a lot like the "Matrix" interrogation scene, where Neo's mouth is melted shut. Or has such an image been used prominently before? --RolandOfGilead 19:10, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

Great, now my warrior can't use shouts as effectively. -.- --Life Infusion 19:58, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
 * try this - target the necro first and knockdown or interrupt all those 1-2 second skills. Necros are going to be pesky in Nightfall if left alone, especially since they counter both paragons and dervishes quite well.  I still don't think this will fix the fact that I haven't personally seen a necro primary in PvP in about 6 months, but maybe because it can be kept up indefinitely at L16 (21 secs required - 20 secs + 1 sec recast) we'll see more of them  --146.122.71.143 10:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

Everytime I look at that icon I think "Hey!, That's Jon Stewart doing a Bush impression!" -

Trivia
That reference is even more obscure. Where does it state that message in particular as being the source of the skill's name? Also consider that "vocal minority" comes from the same branch as Nixon's "silent majority". --Scottie theNerd 21:58, 23 November 2006 (CST)
 * Agreed. Changed the page to reference the well-known metaphor rather than a dev's throaway reference to the well-known metaphor. &mdash; 130.58 (talk) 22:46, 23 November 2006 (CST)


 * Hilarious that this piece of trivia for Vocal Minority made it through guild wiki's crack deletion squad: "The Skill icon resembles Paul Grays' mask, which he wears on stage when performing with Slipknot." It also resembles a man eating mashed potatoes with his mouth open.  The skill icon is clearly not a reference to Slipknot.


 * But this was deleted: "The name of this spell could be a reference to Alex Weekes' forum post on GuildHall.net where he addressed the PvP community as a Vocal Minority." While the actual forum and post are debatable, the Vocal Minority skill name 100% is a good natured, funny dig from a.net directed @ the vocal forum members. It has very little to do with a Nixon speech, other than the ancient origin of the phrase.  The current trivia kills the joke entirely.


 * It's as if you've removed the punchline "To get to the other side!" and replaced it with "Chickens have two feet."--24.206.111.186 23:15, 14 February 2007 (CST)