Talk:Necromancer armor/Archive1

Mesmer Armour on Page?
Why is Enchanter's Armor here, as it is obviously mesmer armor?
 * Someone probably just grabbed the Mesmer table, edited it a little, and slapped it on without checking too much. I don't even know what TBD means.  Hopefully someone will come in and clean this up, I'm no necro expert. -PanSola 22:56, 2 May 2006 (CDT)
 * I removed the mesmer armor from the list. I dont see why the table layout was changed though, it just makes it really confusing. Whats the point in having "Necromancer Armor Art" table instead of "Armor available in Factions". --Dwiea 08:43, 3 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Now that I understand more about the Factions armor I can see why ^^ --Dwiea 10:04, 8 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Sorry about that. My baby showed up midway through editing the Necro table to include Factions armor. I'll get the rest cleaned up. ^^ --TheaLeonis 17:28, 12 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Everything on this table should be accurate and complete now. I can't vouch for links! --TheaLeonis 17:53, 12 May 2006 (CDT)

Just tell me which necromancer function gives me energy tattoos stats so i don't have to wear tattoos and I'll be happy, ty :) --Jamie 08:45, 3 May 2006 (CDT)
 * That would be the Cabalist version of the armor. --Dwiea 14:05, 4 May 2006 (CDT)

I created a draft update on my talk page based on the Mesmer armor page. This table would replace the two tables in the current version called "Armor available in Prophecies" and "Armor during FPE". The middle table, "Necromancer Armor Art", would remain as is. --Glynnis 18 May 2006
 * Looks great. I've been waiting forever for someone to clean this page up d-: -PanSola, LAFTable (sing) 19:22, 18 May 2006 (CDT)

Why not use the pictures available on the armor pages in the art table, where pictures is missing? -- Stylva 00:26, 12 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Probably because it takes more time to do that (look up each filename of the image and edit the link accordingly, as opposed to just autogenerate all links first according to how most of the images are named), and the person/people who did what was done didn't have more time to spare d-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 00:58, 12 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Actually it was because I couldn't find any front view images of most of the armor types. For at least one of the armor types, the only undyed images had the front view and back view in the same image, which would either mess up the table or be too small to make out clearly. By the time I realised that dyed images are better than red links someone already beat me to it. -- Gordon Ecker 18:44, 13 July 2006 (CDT)

Fanatic's Armor
Hi, just wondering why there is no picture for Fanatic's armor (available at Droknar's Forge)? 203.214.109.140 23:30, 14 August 2006 (CDT)


 * I guessed we just missed it =) Putting it there now. --Stylva 03:03, 15 August 2006 (CDT)

Breaking Down Armor Stats
how about instead of the "base armor has X energy and Y ER" and "this set of armor has Z energy and D ER", breaking it down by piece? ie: "base tunic has --, base pants has --, base boots..." and then putting the specs for each style's parts changes from the base. because i'm trying to mix armor types into a custom setup, and that would be more helpful. armor TOTALLY confuses me. different names, different looks, different materials, different styles, different stats... oy! Bloodsong 07:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * i don't see the issue, all caster pants have +1 regen, all caster boots have +1 regen, the only delta is the additional bonuses covered by the notes section. even mixing and matching, looking at the armor pages provides full details --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 10:31, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Cleaned Up
I cleaned up the necro armor page and all the armor art/function pages, mostly to update the descriptions and to add Prophecies art tables. The necro headgear page still needs work though. Thanks again for the nice Mesmer examples. --Glynnis 06:45, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
 * You have done a great work =) -- Stylva 07:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Thanks. :) Also thanks for fixing some of the page formatting.  I finished updating the Bloodstained Boots links on all the art pages and on the summary page.  Now that I'm done, I realised it would have been easier to use "all 7 functionals". /sigh --Glynnis 14:07, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Though I think it is better in the way you did it, linking to all the arts/functions. Makes it easier to access the armor you were looking for. -- Stylva 14:09, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

I "finished" updating the main necro armor page, adding more links to the art and functions and "7 functions". I also updated the section titles and table headers to be clear about the difference between Armor Art and Armor Function. If useful, perhaps other armor sections could use the same terms. Necro armor is now ready for the new Nightfall designs. :D --Glynnis 13:20, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

PVP Krytan vs PVE Krytan
I was recently experimenting with different looks for a new necromancer, and I noticed that from the PVP screen, if you select the GRAY as the main color for your Krytan/Collector armor, it looks very different than if you actually get the armor in PVE and/or dye it gray. I'm thinking that the "gray" dye available in character creation is actually silver. Is that true? [ MagickElf666 14:33, 20 March 2007 (CDT) ]
 * Yes, I think so. It looks more silver than gray to me too. &mdash; Stylva  (talk)(contribs) 20:29, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I asked this question a few months ago, and yes, the colour is silver, not gray. -  B e X or [[Image:Bexor.png]]  02:53, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
 * When creating a character in PvP, the colour you are dying the armours is SILVER, not GREY.

Need Undyed Pictures
We need people to take pictures of their necros with UNDYED armour for all those on the necro armour pages with still the old versions of red colour. Since the update that all armour now comes in grey, we need to update this.

If you have a picture, upload it and change the picture on both this page and the corresponding armour page.

Thanks. Leina 23:07, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Pagan?
Does that armor type exist? And if so, why do we have a red link? Readem (talk *contribs ) 20:55, 29 May 2007 (CDT)

Pagan armor wouldn't be very PC... 75.45.82.212 17:27, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Scar Pattern
Seems like the regular scar pattern armour has been removed from this armour page. It's still in game, but I don't know enough to put it back on here. Thx Magua 14:01, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Fixed it. There was a typo that simply cut it out of the template's listing, and the linkname was pointing to Scar Pattern armor (which redirects to the Insignia page); sorted it out after some poking. And since we're on the subject: does the scar armor still do weird weird things with dye? Or does it take coloring straight now, without "tweaking"? --nunix

Core armor galleries
Ishy, why are you no longer using the {{gallery index| template for them? The code looks much cleaner than the DPL thing you're doing. All the other sections have the green background, and the new ones are white... RoseOfKali 17:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing this white background in either FF3 or IE6. The sub-table should have a transparent background by default, but I think IE7 instead applies a white background to anything that doesn't have one defined.
 * Honestly, the DPL is much cleaner - except for the unfortunate "format=" line, it's more compact and easier to maintain, and it doesn't assume that the reader will be using a resolution that can display 5 armors across without scrolling. I suppose I could template it, actually, then you wouldn't have to look at it.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "Cleaner?" To me it looks like a 10-line run-on continuous chunk of code. :P Not at all easier to maintain for anyone who didn't write it. ;) And if someone is using a 10-year old monitor that can't handle the width of this page, well, it's not my problem that there's a huge wiki control bar taking all this space on the left side. But really, I don't think that the scrolling would be an issue for pretty much anyone. And if so, well, they'd have this problem with a loooot of pages... RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg]] 18:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Then let's make this one less page (or 10, once I finish them all) that they have a problem with. :P I pulled the format line out into a template, so it's not exposed on this page anymore.  Converting all the Prophecies and the semi-core Factions galleries to DPL with this template reduced the page size by ~2,000 bytes.  Would you agree now that this is cleaner? ;)  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 19:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)