User talk:Skuld/Archive 11

Reverts
Hey I'm noticing all these "reverted edit by Naff, changed to last version by (random editor). I looked through the history of most of these and it seems like nothing is actually reverted by you o.O (Not a fifty five 13:28, 15 October 2006 (CDT))

Yeah nevermind, I see. Just put a hold on that for a lil bit tho if you like, its being talked about. Less work for you >.< if that's gonna happen I'll get to it myself. (Not a fifty five 13:50, 15 October 2006 (CDT))

Unrelated message
Hi, I still dont understand, so I guess can you please tell me were to find such information of when to sign or not information. Thank You. Because I dont know what are talk pages.
 * Found that at the top of your page. Looks like someone tried to contact you, lol. ~ Nilles (chat) 14:06, 15 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I sorted that out, just left it there for some reason :) &mdash; Skuld 14:28, 15 October 2006 (CDT)

Why the hell
Have you moved W/N Crippling Slash Sword Fable Warlord 11:47, 17 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Sorry for not responding, I've been ill for the past couple of days. This debate decided to delete all builds with nightfall skills in. I didn't delete it, but moved it away from the builds system. You can move it back when the game is out :) &mdash; Skuld 02:21, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

Now the game is released, move it back please Fable Warlord 06:16, 8 November 2006 (CST)


 * You don't need Skuld to move it, you can do it yourself easily enough. Just head over to User:Fable Warlord/W/N Crippling Slash Sword then use the move tab up the top and rename it to: W/N Crippling Slash Sword and voila, it's back in the main namespace. You'll also probably want to readd   to the top if it's ready for testing. Skuld can then delete old redirect at User:Fable Warlord/W/N Crippling Slash Sword when you've finished moving it ;) Sing out if you have any questions. --Xasxas256 06:34, 8 November 2006 (CST)

Quest stubs
Hi there. I want to help unstub some of the Quest stubs. It seems that a lot of them are just missing maps. Is there anything else I need to look out for? --  Karalin (talk|contribs) 04:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Not that i'm aware of. Those look pretty done to me. Good luck :) &mdash; Skuld 04:46, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Great! Err... is there anyway to search for/link to/display pages in 2 categories? eg those in Category:Quest stubs and those in Category:Factions quests?

Reverts again
I just wanna why you reverted the secondary Necro edits. I just did some cosmetic changes and now it looks ugly like before... --85.25.136.135 04:51, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * What is the point of putting none as yet? Just remove the text O.o &mdash; Skuld 04:55, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * What is the point of putting an empty star for these which makes the little square appearing in the next text (under Firefox)? So why then not just completely delete "Example builds" with no buil in it. I just don't understand this "kicking" edits --18.78.1.92 05:03, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * To clarify what anon is saying, the empty text results in a rendering error. More important, however, is that "none yet" illustrates that the GuildWiki could use builds with that profession combination, which is better for us. I've reverted your change.


 * I've seen at least 5 reverts of recent edits of yours in the last 10 minutes&mdash;and those are just the ones on my watchlist. Normally this wouldn't bother me, but these have been things like blanked pages and redirects. Slow down a little and think about what you're doing. &mdash;Tanaric 07:41, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

Mungri
Want to farm Mungri sometime? I need his cap, and you need his weapon... and I'm ungodly bored. --Tisiphone 12:36, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I'll help you get the cap but I don't hold much faith on getting the green ^^ &mdash; Skuld 12:39, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

Unfavored...why?
You moved my A/E Tempest Blades build from 'deceased' to 'unfavored' classification. I know it's a great build, b/c I've tried it myself countless times in a crapload of scenarios. Rather than simply slapping some 'unfavored' tag on it, as if the entire community judged it, rate it yourself or put to be "immediately tested".Sage722 16:07, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Mistake. I was changing back 55's edit to the previous one and got the wrong tag. Put it back :) &mdash; Skuld 16:09, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
 * You voted as unfavored (vote not move), could you give any imput on why you didn't like it and how I could improve it?
 * You marked my build as candidate for deletion, and I think it should be removed. Two people have tested this build already and have said it works.  I think it would get tested by more people if it didn't have a deletion tag on it.  I know you think its a bad idea, but others have said they never had a problem with survival.Giangn626 21:52, 25 October 2006 (CDT)

About the talk page blanker...
I think THIS will stop him ^_^.-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 13:15, 20 October 2006 (CDT)


 * A user blanking his/her talk pages are not against any policy and it's that user's choice whether they want to blank their page or not. &mdash; Gares 13:25, 20 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Erm...does my action look "administrative"? Cause I'm pretty sure I conveyed my message in a light and comedic manner.-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 13:27, 20 October 2006 (CDT)


 * lol. I don't think an ASCII bunny is administrative, but I looked at the IP address' history and it seems his choice to blank his talk page is being reverted quite a bit after he blanks it. He's basically playing with those that post on his talk page. ;) &mdash; Gares 13:38, 20 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Well now he has a bunny to play with :D -!!!!

Thanks for the help
Thx for moving my translated page, I didn't know how to do it. =) - - Shikaru Nara  (talk|contribs) 15:13, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

Calendar
Hey bud, is it ok if I steal your Calendar template code? I'll put in proper credit. — Jyro X 19:08, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
 * User:Barek, User:Luobailong and User talk:Auron of Neon do. Although Auron gives no credit... --Xasxas256 21:31, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Sure. Doesn't half travel ;p &mdash; Skuld 02:30, 22 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Got it. Put in the credit in the template itself. :) — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg|25px]] 04:12, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

My builds
That page has been recreated, I added a +del tag but its been removed. As I'm hamstrung but both 1RV and not being an admin I can't do much now except dump it on your doorstep. I've added to your note explaining why My Builds isn't a valid article. Have fun with it, I'm going to bed! --Xasxas256 08:42, 22 October 2006 (CDT)

Ale
Ale Merchant (regardless of namespace) just seems like shameless advertising to me... Didn we formalise some sort of policy or understanding on this issue? --Xasxas256 07:45, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I have no clue what you're talking about, but I'll assume you mean on-wiki advertisement of in-game services. Last decision I remember was to let those be. Main argument was Gem's and Gravewit's advertisements of running services. ~ Nilles (chat) 09:39, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * yah, thats the name of my character, aren't I entitled to have a user page like everyone else? How come I can't post my signature next to the stuff i've written or posted? Hardly seems fair. -Ale Merchant
 * Are you User:Am? I just see this happening and its a bit suspect. Even if you've changed your user name, the sig should remain for the OP &mdash; Skuld 12:32, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Yes, that was the sig i used when i first posted it but since i created the user page under a different name i figured it was Ok to update the the sig on the stuff i've posted. No i'm not taking credit for someone elses photo.- Ale Merchant
 * It seems every time i try to use my sig it just gives an i.p. address, care to explain why this is?70.78.90.177 -Ale Merchant


 * You need to log in (top right of the page). It signs with an IP address for not-logged-in ppl. &mdash; Skuld 12:24, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * thank you, is it all right if i put my sig next to the picture i posted???


 * I have no problem with it o.O &mdash; Skuld 12:32, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Wow, looks like you've got a rival
hey, check this out---> Special:Contributions/Defiant Elements. I cant believe it but theres someone out there who can post edits at a similar rate as you!! He wouldn't happen to be a, oh I dont know, say...a Puppet of yours would he? :P&mdash; Azroth    18:19, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Since everyone's sig links to their userpage, the real measure is whose user page has themost pages linked to it. Out of the top 25 most linked to pages, only four are user pages:
 * 6. User:Skuld ‎(2,762 links)
 * 8. User:Karlos ‎(2,011 links)
 * 19. User:PanSola ‎(1,311 links)
 * 21. User:Rainith ‎(1,217 links)
 * All other users have under 1,000. Lets face it, Skuld rules all! --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:26, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Top 100, w00t! --Xasxas256 19:36, 25 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Yeah, Skuld has the most posts, no question there. But what I'm refering too is how quickly a person makes a post.  In the past the speed at which Skuld worked has been scary at times.  But this guy is posting comments, though be it not long ones, extremely qickly as well.  I mean hes only been on the site for about a week, so trying to compare him to anyone with links to his user page is impossible.&mdash; [[Image:Azroth sig.png||builds]] Azroth  [[Image:Azroth sig2.png||talk]]  19:50, 25 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Hmmm, I've managed to comment 1217 times w/o ever really saying anything. :P  --Rainith 20:08, 25 October 2006 (CDT) (1218 now baby)
 * Pssst: this post made it 1,218 ;-) You're way ahead of me (and sneaky, adding that comment after the sig - I never remember to read after the sig).  --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:13, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm just hoping to get to 500 without ever making sense. Then User talk:Barek is next on the hitlist! --Xasxas256 20:28, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Congrats for being the user that responds to anything and everything. Somebody make him a userbox. ;) &mdash; Gares 21:32, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Ha! As it so happens I have been making some "real" edits lately, in the words of Karlos...read it and weep boys!. So nah naaah naaayyyaah nah! P.S. I'd only want a "this user is a creepy stalker guy" userbox, that's the greatest honour any GuildWikian can receive! P.P.S. You don't need Tizzy when you can get community spam!! --Xasxas256 03:16, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * For quite some time my sig doesn't link to my user page any more (at least not directly, so it doesn't count for mostlinked pages). :p --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 03:42, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Pffft I made 6 edits a minute for an hour stright once :P I'm totally Not a fifty bot (Not a fifty five 03:46, 26 October 2006 (CDT))


 * I have to say that MediaWiki is not a fair MMORPG. Some players have OBVIOUSLY been grinding their way to the top, amassing XP by killing rats (i.e. voting on builds!). Why can't there be a nice wiki somewhere where everyone is level 20?  &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 04:14, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * I like posting too! Sir On The Edge 05:56, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Quiet n00b or i'll blast you with my shocking god staff of swiftness d: &mdash; Skuld 05:57, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Fear my Sword of a Thousand Truths you evil PKer!! (I think thats what it was called in the WoW episode of South Park) :P&mdash; [[Image:Azroth sig.png||builds]] Azroth  [[Image:Azroth sig2.png||talk]] 16:46, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Yeah but I erase you with my Sword of a Thousand Edits (Not a fifty five 19:10, 26 October 2006 (CDT))


 * *Pulls the wiki from "Azeroth" and repositions it within "The World"* "Data Drain!" Hahah, now you're in a coma. *retreats to Net Slum (well outside the reach of system admins and hangs with Helba after paying respects at Hidden Forbidden Holyground)* :P&mdash; [[Image:Azroth sig.png||builds]] Azroth  [[Image:Azroth sig2.png||talk]]  22:21, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Unban
Could you possibly unblock my home IP? It\'s 67.80.155.17.-OaS

The nightfall changes have broken the core of the old build. I have rewritten it based on Nightfall's updates. It no longer uses the Mesmer secondary. Is there any way you or someone else could change it to "A/any Impaler" so its not A/Me without reason? thank you. --Midnight08 09:40, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Best skill note ever.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki?title=Barbed_Arrows&diff=375985&oldid=375971 --Fyren 09:55, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I can't take credit for that, it was from the talk page. Awesome though d: &mdash; Skuld 10:02, 26 October 2006 (CDT)


 * lol thats pretty funy--Midnight08 10:41, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Ban
I had User:24.23.34.152 contact me in game to ask why he was banned this time. I reviewed the situation and have to ask you the same thing. What was the misinformation? No one objected to his contribution of the max friends list, so your basis of the ban has to be the title, which proof is found on this page. Though his contributions in the past may have seemed a little odd, I see no reason for this ban. &mdash; Gares 16:57, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

-_-
I really have to ask you why you don't think the shocking flurry build is viable, it kills 60 AL targets and leaves 80 AL targets with a small amount of life left. It's largest weakness, enchant removal isn't that bad if you consider a 30 sec recharge and HSR on casting equipment. There is even a varient for a more sever-gash type build. There really is no serious weakness with this build now.-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 09:41, 30 October 2006 (CST) *poke* -Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 13:11, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * Why use something inferior to a dragon slasher? &mdash; Skuld 13:25, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * To get past prot skills like prot spirit, RoF, and spirit bond. All of which are very popular in the metagame. Dragonslash may give you 60ish damage on the hit, but if a target has one of those skills(or similair) that damage will be cut down quite a bit. The multiple low damages add up to deal significant damage while effectivly cutting through those skills.-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 13:38, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * You might not trigger spirit bond, but you won't be doing anything worth me as a monk worrying about. Apart from slightly buffed regular attacks, this isn't applying a great deal of pressure. A dare say a hammer warrior does more with no attack skills and conjure, without hitting 60? &mdash; Skuld 13:47, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * Rly? I've never seen a monk who didn't notice when he/she is dead on the floor. A frenzy hammer war attacks more slowly than a sword war with no IAS, therefore it doesn't have the needed damage to actually kill the target (if that target has a reliable self heal or monk healing him/her).-Onlyashadow, Top 100 Guild 14:11, 30 October 2006 (CST)

Warrior Elite Sunspear Armor
hey, i noticed you changed the page i made.

im curious about how the armors should be listed now that nightfall is out, before people used to distinguish between 15k and 1.5k, now there are 5k, 10k, and 15ks. shouldnt the elite sunspear armor carry the 15k title?

also, im not sure if u saw, i changed the main armor page under "common art types" to include elite (15k) sunspear armor under the already shown sunspear armor. now it matches the format for luxon/kurzick armors.

sorry if i messed up the pages too much, but there isnt much to go on as of now, i was just trying to start a template.

--User:FloatingLakes


 * I'm not sure actually >_< &mdash; Skuld 02:42, 31 October 2006 (CST)

Vandal?
"The Power Is Yours!" and Motivation skills have "The Power is Yours!" linked as Zomg Cap'N Planet? I am waaaay too nub to figure out who did it, plus the sites so slow that I gave up. :P - BeXoR  07:10, 3 November 2006 (CST)

Google ad
Hi, guildwiki is screwing up and I can't find the help page. Is there a way to find an admin without being linked to one? I think not allowing redirects is pretty stupid, and I've seen a few of dozen of them, and wikipedia allows it, but I won't do it again.

I was going to post this google ad: www.warcraftexposed.com but it's displayed on this page, and pretty much everywhere else... Enjoy :D Are you still trying to filter out store sites?


 * The main concern is not having GW gold ads displaying, as this breaks one of the terms of being an official fansite d: there is a post on http://gamewikis.org/blog/ somewhere wher you can report bad ads &mdash; Skuld 17:25, 4 November 2006 (CST)

Wow. More Fake Votes. This is pathetic.
Got a user pretending to be multiple other people to get his build favored. And he didn't even bother to log out to do it... It's kinda sad.

Take a look here man:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:D/W_Wild_Solo

Tell me that's not pathetic. Just take a look at the history. — Jyro X 19:39, 4 November 2006 (CST)
 * Nevermind. Karlos temp-blocked the guy for 3 days. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg|25px]] 20:32, 4 November 2006 (CST)


 * Lol, those weren't even registered accounts xD &mdash; Skuld 03:13, 5 November 2006 (CST)
 * Now I've seen everything. >> Kessel 06:38, 7 November 2006 (CST)

User page pictures
Ello again. I want to put portraits of my characters on my user page. I have read that it's normal for users to upload their pics under their character name. My problem is that I have 28 characters and I think that might be going a little too far on the already strained server. :P So shall I host them externally or is it cool if I upload them? Plus hosting them externally at this point would be faster. :P Or alternatively I could host them externally and then once things here slow down upload them. 28 pictures is a lot. :S And I don't know how big they are yet. Also! Am I right to create subpages for each character? Like User:Bexor/Charname1 User:Bexor/Charname2 and so forth, for the 28. I'm pondering it right now, because I'm undecided if my e-shrine to my characters will require mass amounts of information that no one will ever read, or if I can manage without it. Just for informations sake and help make my decision. :D - BeXoR   17:24, 7 November 2006 (CST)
 * You're pretty much welcome to make subpages like you've suggested for anything GuildWiki/Wars related. We're all hoping that the speeds will get back up to where want we them soon. It may depend a lot on how big the pics are, if they're too big it'll just take forever to load. As for the written part, that's up to you, there's no guarantee that anybody will read what you write. --Xasxas256 17:44, 7 November 2006 (CST)
 * Don't I know you from somewhere? :P I saved the pics, all jpg and average 50kb each. 50 x 28 = like 1.3meg. I am going to shove them on imageshack for now at least, just because uploading them here anytime soon will be just.. death. :( I no worky brain right. No sleep for Bex and all her words went to nanowrimo. PLS SEND HLP! - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 18:21, 7 November 2006 (CST)


 * For articles, the preference is that the images should be hosted on-site; but you have more flexibility in the userspace.
 * You can create one page per character, or place them all on one page, or group them however works for you (maybe all of one profession on one page, or some other variable that works for you). The flexibility is yours.  As you say, it's likely that no one will ever view it - which is why I've been slowly pruning the writeup on each of mine - easier to maintain that way (I still need to clean mine up more, but waiting for the server to speed up).  But, the choice is yours. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:16, 7 November 2006 (CST)
 * Thx Baz. I will keep that in mind when I go to mess around with everything. - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 18:21, 7 November 2006 (CST)
 * You know me because you're in the same timezone, it's 1AM in Londom atm (I'm not entirely sure when in England Skuld is but you'll probably be waiting a while for a reply :P ) Also I'm sure I wrote somewhere a while ago that Aussies need to give everyone nicknames (see I can't even write Australians, it's Aussies!) but I'm not sure that Baz will catch on. Particularly when "Bazza" is sooo very much better! --Xasxas256 19:20, 7 November 2006 (CST)
 * I see Skuld in-game more than I do on wiki. I normally have to whisper Skuld or Karlos in-game if anything urgent comes up on the wiki. :D — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg|25px]] 19:53, 7 November 2006 (CST)
 * Baz is short for Bazza! I was just lazy. :( We'll have to take it upon ourselves to rename everyone in an acceptably Aussie way! - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 01:18, 8 November 2006 (CST)

User page shot
I'm relatively new at the whole GuildWiki thing, just wondering how you got such a damn good screenshot/carachter portrait at the top... I can't get mine to show just the carachter, or it does show just the carachter but the UI is also visible. Any tips? KyrothVyzaltar 13:36, 15 November 2006 (CST)
 * Press Ctrl + Shift + H to hide the interface :) &mdash; Skuld 14:26, 15 November 2006 (CST)
 * Screen capture has some more tips too. --Xasxas256 15:20, 15 November 2006 (CST)

Help for Ranger builds to be deleted/changed/etc.
As I've been perusing the Ranger builds for a while now (as I volunteered per Xeeron's sign up sheet at User:Xeeron/Build volunteers) I'm noticing plenty of builds that are not being deleted, moved, or otherwaise finished off when they have the requisite votes, etc, etc. Who should I contact to notify of these specific builds that need updating/deletion? No admins signed up for the ranger builds or I would've asked them and you seem to be next most common to vote on them. Just in case it is you that can help here's the info I've gathered. It should seriously help clean up some ranger builds:

Those currently ready for deletion due to no changes in past month and beyond deletion tag date, etc:
 * R/A Shadow Striker
 * R/Me Chaos Ranger
 * R/Mo 105 HP Solo Ranger
 * R/Mo Pongmei Valley Farmer
 * <<-- also ready for unfavored.
 * R/any Clinger (3 days away...)
 * R/any Ettin Farmer <<-- also ready for unfavored.
 * R/any Neverblock Ranger
 * R/any QS interrupter <<-- also ready for unfavored.
 * R/any Neverblock Ranger
 * R/any QS interrupter <<-- also ready for unfavored.

Those currently ready for deletion due to merged with another build:
 * merged with
 * R/E Pyromaniac merged with
 * R/W Caster Shutdown merged with
 * R/Me Degen Ranger merged with Build:R/Me Cripshot Ranger
 * R/N Chehbaba Farmer identical to Build:R/N Touch Ranger
 * R/W Poison Blade same exists under variants for and made after

Those ready for unfavored status:
 * R/E BM knocker
 * R/Me Bunny Slasher
 * Build:R/Me Chkkr Thousand Tail Farmer
 * R/N Marksman's Minions
 * R/N Shivers Interrupter

Those that need to be changed to stub status (not finished...):
 * R/Me Degen Assault

Those ready for vetting/tested process (enough positive votes): --  Vallen Frostweaver  16:46, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * I took care of the ones which are now struck out. You are allowed to perform any of these tasks besides deletion by yourself. If you want a short tutorial on to accomplish those, leave me a message. ~ Nilles (chat) 16:38, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * Thanks. Totally got carried away with thinking deletion was the same access as stubbed, untested, and tested when I wrote this.  Funny that I changed back one just after this from an error someone else had made on another build and didn't even realize it.  At least the Ranger section is looking a bit better. (also just added my signature to the above as I forgot to earlier)--[[Image:VallenIconwhitesmall.JPG]]  Vallen Frostweaver  16:46, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * Found another ready for deletion due to age and no changes (though it isn't Ranger): Team - Two Man Nahpui Quarter Farm. Thanks.--[[Image:VallenIconwhitesmall.JPG]]  Vallen Frostweaver  16:54, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Deleted all applicable, much appreciated :) &mdash; Skuld 17:38, 17 November 2006 (CST)
 * Thank you, thank you! :D --[[Image:VallenIconwhitesmall.JPG]]  Vallen Frostweaver  08:06, 20 November 2006 (CST)

Site blanking
Huh? Are you alright? 0o ~ Nilles (chat) 07:53, 18 November 2006 (CST)
 * o.0 — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg|25px]] 10:31, 18 November 2006 (CST)

Ethereal Aid -> Attacker's Insight
You deleted the icon for Ethereal Aid, which was renamed by Anet to Attacker's Insight: but you didn't give an icon to Attacker's Insight. Just suggesting a rename for the future, as with Essence -> Empowerment. Craw 12:14, 18 November 2006 (CST)

User Page
Why did u delete your user page? i thought u'd have sumthink about hating the 55 monk nerf--slogankid1 (talk) 05:33, 19 November 2006 (CST)
 * Huh? &mdash; Skuld 05:39, 19 November 2006 (CST)
 * Umm, yeah. What's up with your user page? --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 05:40, 19 November 2006 (CST)

What about the 55 monk nerf? :s &mdash; Skuld 05:42, 19 November 2006 (CST)

Hmm
Something tells me this W/any_Sundering_Slayer is in the wrong place. :P Got some terrible spelling and grammar there too. I was spellchecking until I noticed where the article was and then I stopped. - BeXoR   07:47, 19 November 2006 (CST)
 * IDS_farming_build and Quick Strike! Anti-enchant Dual Spiker too - they are everywhere - BeXoR  [[Image:Bexor.png]] 07:49, 19 November 2006 (CST)