Talk:Leaver

I'm sorry they're not called leavers in your locale. I really am.
 * Note to self: Must resist to make sarcastic comments towards Karlos. ;) --Tetris L 21:18, 3 November 2005 (EST)


 * I have been playing the game since May. I have been to every nook and cranny of the game (except the HoH) and as such, I do actually place a lot of stock in my experience as to what is "commonly used by players" and what is not. My locale is pretty much the entire game, so if I don't hear it in "my locale," I suspect it doesn't exist and if the only case you can make for it is another sarcastic comment, then you're not helping alleviate my suspicions. That being said, I know that there is no "objective" way to measure popularity, as such I marked the article for deletion and waited to see what others think. --Karlos 23:25, 3 November 2005 (EST)


 * You "place a lot of stock in [your] experience". Nicely said. Again, I will resist to make a sarcastic reply. ;)
 * Well, I've heard "Leaver" being used, but I agree "Quitter" is a lot more popular. How about making leaver a redirect to quitter and covering both in one article, as the meaning is exacly the same? --Tetris L 01:24, 4 November 2005 (EST)
 * I use Leaver instead of Quitter. Hmm, feels un-locale now --Xeeron 02:01, 4 November 2005 (EST)


 * I must say I have heard "leaver" more often than "quitter", but maybe I wasn't paying attention... In any case, I think Tetris L's suggestion to link both words to the same page is a good solution. --SDC 01:27, 4 November 2005 (EST)


 * One problem: A redirect article can not be categorized, so it won't show up under Category:Slang & Terminology. --Tetris L 01:31, 4 November 2005 (EST)

Leavers are used to activate catapults =p 02:02, 4 November 2005 (EST)

I thought those were levers.


 * No, Lever is a type of soap. :P  --Rainith 03:33, 4 November 2005 (EST)

Why I feel "Leaver" is more fitting that "quitter":
 * usually quit is used for exiting programs
 * you not only quit the arena, but you leave (your party members alone to fight without you). It is the later that aggravates people, not the former.--Xeeron 20:46, 4 November 2005 (EST)


 * In Europe they're predominately called 'leavers' or something else I can't mention here. At least in my experience.


 * My feelings exactly. I think this is an English vs American thing. Xeeron is in Europe, so that corroborates me theorum! Here in the US, they're called "quitters" because they are quitters, they quit on the team. Leave is used as a verb, like if someone is upset because of something, the other members say "pls dont leave." but a person who "leaves" a party because the situation looks grim or they didn't listen to his grand plan for saving the universe is called a "quitter" and after they go everyone grumble "I hate quitters!!" --Karlos 21:24, 4 November 2005 (EST)


 * Actually I play on the american server, but you might still have a point, since a very substancial part of the american server is populated by non-us players (at least during the "european hours"). --Xeeron 02:43, 5 November 2005 (EST)