Talk:Celestial creature

Minipets = true Celestials?
Ok, so, the celestial pig, and the celestial rat are both on this list, but are they actually in the game? If not, they should be removed. I have never seen the rat, or the pig, outside of the Canthan New Year events. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  22:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Observe that this article is not only classified as "Bestiary", but also as "Lore", and the two minipet celestials certainly are relevant to the Canthan lore. --◄mendel► 23:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes it is, but it seems like it should be separate, as they were invented more to take part of a huge holiday than genuine relevance. And, if we are going to list these celestials, should we also list the other members of the chinese zodiac, as they were also mentioned in the game. Although the name escapes me, there was a fortune teller, or something to that extent, that told your characters their signs and characteristics in the monastery. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  23:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They are, indeed, actually in the game. They appeared during the new years events as themselves as well as minis.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  23:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I wasn't arguing that point beyond the original point that they existed in a semi-canon event, more so whether it should be split into another, more appropriate article. Second, I presented the point that other celestials, the ox for example, have been mentioned, but not seen. Should these be included on this page? Norn spirits that aren't shown in-game have been mentioned and are listed, and can be used as a precedent, I guess. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  23:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this article is appropriate. It is also short. I suggest leaving the section on the celestials and their characteristics as it is now (with more animals), expanding the section on where to find them in-game, linking to the New Year articles for pig and rat, place note with a link to the fortuneteller so there's a connection to the source. Do we have the fortuneteller documented? --◄mendel► 00:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, we do: Court Astrologer. --◄mendel► 00:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)