Talk:Drop rate/Red Gift Bag

Help inputting data? I'm still working my way around the formatting and input for the Wiki. I have some info for the Drop rate for Red Bags though and wanted to add it. Here's the raw data if someone else wanted to add it, I don't want to mess up the formatting of the page.

Total Bags: 40 Champagne Poppers: 8 100g: 3 Rice Wine: 2 Sparklers: 10 Sugary Blue Drink: 5 Bottle Rockets: 8 Lunar Tokens: 1 Bean Cake: 3

Any help would be appreciated. GhostBear 09:45, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Why is this page needed at all? After today these statistics will be useless. Also, it's a gift, it's not like you're making a calculated judgement into which chests are better value. You just open it and get a nice suprise. 132.203.83.38 09:52, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * Maybe we're curious? If you don't want to see the data then don't look. --Pork soldier 14:08, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * What a confrontational comment. I'm just asking if it's needed. Not that I hate it. Maybe you should phrase things in a nicer way. 132.203.83.38 18:32, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * Yes, my suggestion was purposefully tactless. The data is useful for future guesswork~ say you have a few varied festivals with these sorts of bags (not identical, but similar). Once you've seen past festival statistics you can make educated guesses about the contents of the new bags. If you know the drop rate of items out of any present (or bag) you have some idea of whether they're useful to you, ie: will this bag likely give me sugar items for my sugar title track? Booze for my drunkard title? Can I make money buying the presents for X gold and opening them for items? There are quite a few reasons to collect the data. --Pork soldier 21:38, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * I thought better of taunting you after I did it ~ here are the points to take home: If you're concerned about spoilers then don't view the data. If you have no use for the data that doesn't mean that it's useless. --Pork soldier 22:03, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * It's alse useful if you're buying or selling them. -- Gordon Ecker 21:50, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Ok. Lesson learnt. 132.203.83.38 00:19, 19 February 2007 (CST)

Is it just me, or are the numbers off? Does it really matter? Mel from Hell 18:35, 19 February 2007 (CST)
 * To be honest I'm not really sure. They're pretty close to my numbers. --Pork soldier 23:35, 19 February 2007 (CST)

Hi, as i don't want to do the calculations, here is my list of opened bags : Total Bags: 54 Champagne Poppers: 9 100g: 2 Rice Wine: 4 Sparklers: 8 Sugary Blue Drink: 10 Bottle Rockets: 15 Lunar Tokens: 4 Bean Cake: 2 Gib Resahp 9:26, 19 Feb. 2007 (GMT)

Avrage value
Considering sweets and drinks at 100g per point, and fireworks as nothing:
 * Champagne Popper: (+/- 20.53%) - 0g
 * 100g: (+/- 5.26%) - 100g
 * Bottle of Rice Wine: (+/- 5.13%) - 200g for the merch
 * Sparkler: (+/- 20.02%) - 0g
 * Sugary Blue Drink: (+/- 15.72%) - 100g
 * Bottle Rocket: (+/- 19.25%) - 0g
 * 10 Lunar Tokens: (+/- 9.56%) - 300g as creme brulee or firewater
 * Red Bean Cake: (+/- 4.04%) - 200g for the merch

100*0.0526 + 200*0.0513 + 100*0.1572 + 300*0.0956 + 200*0.0404 = 68;

on the other hand, 5 tokens are worth 150g as creme brulee or firewater. Foo 05:32, 9 July 2007 (CDT)


 * If we will want to find how much fireworks would have to be values in order to make trading tokens for bags worth it, we would check: 68 + (0.2053+0.0513+0.1925)*(3 fireworks) = 150 which gives: 1 firework = 60.8624657. so if you value a firework as more than 60g, it is worth trading tokens for bags. Foo 05:37, 9 July 2007 (CDT)