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No more arguing
Or Else. &mdash; Warw/Wick 20:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Or what?[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]reanor 20:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Or you'll make baby Jesus cry :'-( JonTheMon 20:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh boo hoo RT | Talk  20:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that truthfully Ereanor is being childish and slightly trolling me =| &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's end it, just answer me this: Do you honestly think your wiki won't trigger a community split before it's due time (i.e. when GW2W turns evil)? Would you bet on your answer?[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]reanor 20:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say no, I could bet that RT | Talk  20:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a noticable split, no. And yes, I would. Now drop it, Ereanor. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I will, ty.[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]reanor 20:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

<font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  20:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * lol[[Image:Ereanorsign.jpg]]<strong style="color: black;">reanor 20:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Quote from
GW2W: "I do contribute to GWW, so I wouldnt really say much against them..". so there --- -- (s)talkpage 21:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I said that? And I don't contribute much. I was saying that to plactate everyone or whatever. :P. I dislike their way of dealing anything, and their interprutation of policies and such. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 21:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Goodnight
All &mdash; Warw/Wick 21:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * For real now. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 21:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Night, we should've went with Heals, btw. Alesia did cracker-jack, lol.--Powersurge360 21:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

A few requests
Firstly, read GW:YAV. Is any part of that policy unclear? You know about said policy, yet your comments and your actions show that you simply choose to disregard it. That's not okay. Aside from it being dumb (how often do you ignore the law and just steal stuff or shoot people?), it hurts the wiki and fellow contributors. If I see you blatantly ignoring YAV in the future, you will be blocked. I know I've said this before, but you're a really visible editor. Judging from recentchanges, you and maui are the most active spam magnets on pretty much the entire wiki. The amount of spam you've received is pretty ridiculous (37 archives, most of which don't even span the length of a week?), but in order to preserve a working archive section, you need to organize it more carefully. Each individual archive has a rate-a-user template at the top, taking up a good three or four screens. Outside of that, there's no way to tell which archives are from when; because you archive so often (and you move your entire talk page every time), you should make the contents of each archive a little more clear. If you plan to keep a high level of traffic to your talk page, you might want to pull a Gaile; each general topic is a base-level archive, each with subpages separated by time. You could do a similar thing, you'd just have to work out what topic names you're most comfortable with. Remember, the point of an archive is to be navigable; currently, yours aren't. Lastly... for all the spam your talk page receives, you do amazingly little for the betterment of the wiki. The userspace exists for people to learn a little about one another while documenting the game, not as a full-time occupation. It should be something to keep you busy/entertained for short periods between wiki projects, not something to do instead of actually playing the game. Myspace/facebook/livejournal/xanga all exist for that. Instant messangers exist for that. If you really like a bunch of the users on this wiki, add them to MSN messenger and you can chat all you want about whatever you want; spam to your heart's content. When you get to the wiki, however, you need to be a little more focused on your task here; documenting the game. - Auroñ 08:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S.; nobody cares when you go to bed. Save yourself some time and don't bother posting new sections every time you do. - Auroñ 08:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fyi, Auron, I dont care. As far as I care, you're just that guy who thinks we're a bunch of immature brats. So yeah, go away. Any more crap on my talkpage is going to get removed. You say I'm not a visible editor- I only have 2,400~ user talk edits- RT has 3000, and only 600 more total contribs than me. About 12 of those archives have either been RT, Fire, Bored, or my brother spamming 1 post. I've been helping around here for ages, and I do a multitude of new things. Instead of just consistantly going towards me, preach that to everyone else- I'm no worse than anyone else afaik. If the reason you're "attacking" me is because of the GW2, Dont. Just go away. I'm not going to respond to any more crap about GW2. It'll either be removed or ignored. Kthx. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Auron, I must re-point out that YAV is not a "Obey the majority" policy.  That said, archiving a talkpage while the topic is still going on is a problem, it just has NOTHING to do with YAV. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 09:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I Archived it in the hopes of killing the discussion, and I always archive before 40kb, because it makes my computer lagg. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, despite what I said above, I agree on Auron's sentiments pretty much 90% (minus any association with violation of YAV, and some other stuff). -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 09:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe the point, Warwick, is that you should not attempt to "kill" active discussions. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussions that arn't going anywhere (last archive) should be killed.. Perhaps I should take Zulus advice.. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's really not your call whether a discussion is "going anywhere." [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If its on my talk page it is. Said previous archive was imo rapidly once again degenerating into a flame war. It stopped when I archived it- you can't say it didnt work. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

BTW War, re-read Auron's words. He said you are a really visible editor. You mis-read it to mean the opposite. It's because of you being a visible editor, that raises the issue to a higher level. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 09:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * He said I'm a visible editor? I didn't see that. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Quote: "I know I've said this before, but you're a really visible editor." [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 09:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What is a visible editor? &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The opposite of an invisible editor, obviously. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ...smartass... Whats an invisible editor? And if you want, I'll start soley contributing negatively. Then you can see the difference, if you want? &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In all seriousness, Auron presumably meant that you make frequent edits and are well-known around the wiki. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, its highly unlikely he would have decided to compliment me. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 09:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not a compliment. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Then what does it mean, Failix? -_- &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 10:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think it means? I could have said "You often make valuable contributions and are very popular" or I could have said "You spam and no one likes you." That would have been a compliment and an insult, respectively. What he said was neutral. A statement of fact. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 10:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It means the consequences of your actions have relatively greater impact on the wiki (because it is noticed by and affects more people). Rhetorically Auron probably wanted you to feel a greater sense of responsibility (by the awareness of your impact) and listen to his suggestions with that in mind.  -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 10:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sadly the effect didn't work since I only just found out what he means. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 10:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I still encourage you to re-read his first paragraph with that knowledge in mind. It might not change your mind, but I'd like you to re-read his message under the correct premise. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 10:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

it doesn't matter, 'cause you are all maggots >:( <font color="Purple">Yikey  <font color="Green">∞  10:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yikey: I'll take that as a permission to bite you. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 10:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It wont, since we have an animosity between us. I'll reread it after this mish though. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 10:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Bite me. <font color="Purple">Yikey <font color="Green">∞  10:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

And said poll
End. &mdash; Warw/Wick 11:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Having you leaving this community won't solve problems, and it'd make problems harder to resolve. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 12:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No no, why should I be in a community where virtually everyone dislikes me? If anyone truly thinks that me leaving will make it better, please vote yes. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 12:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that ppl who truly think your leaving would make it better should vote yes. I just happen to think that you leaving won't make it better.  But then, I don't usually comment on RFAs, and I don't feel like taking this poll either. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 12:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Very diplomatic. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 12:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, if you find that you cannot stay in this community (due to a poll), then the challenge of building guildwars2.wikia into a sanctuary against the downfall of GW2W might become harder, as those whom you want to welcome may include many whom you feel you cannot co-exist with. On the other hand, if you can stay despite the issues between various community members, then there's more chance of you and the others to better learn how to deal with each other (in a constructive manner), which would help with your vision for guildwars2.wikia.  Assuming I understood your vision for it correctly (please do point out if my understanding is in error). -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 12:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Make your own mind up. Its your account, your decision. Lord of all tyria 12:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If the community wants me to leave, ill leave. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 12:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What if the majority of the community don't mind you staying, to the point of not voting at all? You are really only collecting the desires of the vocal minority of the community. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]])
 * Polls, like votes, don't solve anything; and a wiki is not a democracy. Famous words from every smart leader from Tanaric on down. I'll be blunt when I say this is an unnecessary appeal to sympathy for, as LoaT says, is a very personal decision. You're just frustrated right now. "The emotions you feel while posting are reflected in that post"; it will pass if you just wait a bit and come back with a clearer mind.
 * That being said, I am against you leaving, as I have stated on my talkpage. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 12:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No poll, then. Bah, im in a bad mood, bah everything. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 12:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ugh drama....--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 13:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

As a GuildWikian, I don't want you to leave either. And on a personal note: remember you can't run foerever. EDIT: lol, that sounded threatening, I meant it as a piece of life-wise-advise.<strong style="color: black;">reanor 16:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Z0mg ereanor! NPA!!!!!!!!!! banbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanana. Yes, I can run forever. At least till I run out of breath.. which I wont, cause this iz teh interwebz &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 16:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Anyone know what this means?
MediaWiki internal error.

Original exception: exception 'DBQueryError' with message 'A database error has occurred Query: SELECT page_id,page_namespace,page_title,page_restrictions,page_counter,page_is_redirect,page_is_new,page_random,page_touched,page_latest,page_len FROM `page` WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Main_Page' LIMIT 1 Function: Article::pageData Error: 1033 Incorrect information in file: './defiant_wikidb/page.frm' (localhost) ' in /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Database.php:824 Stack trace:
 * 1) 0 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Database.php(779): Database->reportQueryError('Incorrect infor...', 1033, ' SELECT page_i...', 'Article::pageDa...', false)
 * 2) 1 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Database.php(1224): Database->query(' SELECT page_i...', 'Article::pageDa...')
 * 3) 2 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Database.php(1243): Database->select('page', Array, Array, 'Article::pageDa...', Array)
 * 4) 3 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Article.php(280): Database->selectRow('page', Array, Array, 'Article::pageDa...')
 * 5) 4 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Article.php(292): Article->pageData(Object(DatabaseMysql), Array)
 * 6) 5 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Wiki.php(259): Article->pageDataFromTitle(Object(DatabaseMysql), Object(Title))
 * 7) 6 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Wiki.php(46): MediaWiki->initializeArticle(Object(Title), Object(WebRequest))
 * 8) 7 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(StubObject), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 * 9) 8 {main}

Exception caught inside exception handler: exception 'DBUnexpectedError' with message 'Error in fetchObject: Incorrect information in file: './defiant_wikidb/page.frm' (localhost)' in /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Database.php:953 Stack trace:
 * 1) 0 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/MessageCache.php(314): Database->fetchObject(false)
 * 2) 1 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/MessageCache.php(251): MessageCache->loadFromDB
 * 3) 2 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/MessageCache.php(441): MessageCache->load
 * 4) 3 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(467): MessageCache->get('databaseerror', true, false)
 * 5) 4 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(421): wfMsgGetKey('databaseerror', true, false, true)
 * 6) 5 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Exception.php(23): wfMsgReal('databaseerror', Array)
 * 7) 6 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Database.php(276): MWException->msg('databaseerror', 'Database error')
 * 8) 7 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Exception.php(125): DBQueryError->getPageTitle
 * 9) 8 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Exception.php(88): MWException->htmlHeader
 * 10) 9 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Exception.php(111): MWException->reportHTML
 * 11) 10 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Exception.php(191): MWException->report
 * 12) 11 /home/defiant/public_html/wiki/includes/Exception.php(225): wfReportException
 * 13) 12 [internal function]: wfExceptionHandler(Object(DBQueryError))
 * 14) 13 {main}

Still trying to figure it out. here is the source. The problem keeps occuring, and I want to try to fix it. &mdash; Warw/Wick 15:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like an error in your SQL statement. If you have access to the underlying database, I'd go ahead and manually run that query (SELECT page_id,page_namespace,page_title,page_restrictions,page_counter,page_is_redirect,page_is_new,page_random,page_touched,page_latest,page_len FROM `page` WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Main_Page' LIMIT 1) and see if it returns any records. JonTheMon 16:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fyi its not my site, though :P. Just trying to help Jio. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 16:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That's definitely not a statement error. It looks as if the database file is corrupted (in this case the ). See this page on how to repair corrupted databases; A backup is very helpful here. [[Image:Poke.gif]] Poke 16:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)