User talk:Nova/Archive 1

Thank you for taking the time to visit my awesome discussion page. Feel free to discuss anything here. Don't worry, I won't bite, but my dog might. -- Nova   --  (contribs) 18:15, 13 February 2007 (CST)

"Don't use the Gem icon" -campaign
Hi, you are part of the campaign. I've made a change and decided to leave the heart icon out of the campaign, allowing others to use it freely. The official user box has also been changed to reflect the change. -- (talk) 01:02, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * I think's a good idea. Maybe ask LordBiro to make another icon for Kalomeli, lol. Nova 02:02, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * I wont bother him with any new tasks, besides that would be unfair. He has turned down everyone else asking for personal icons after he did these two for me. That's actually why I decided to 'release the heart icon to the public'. I felt a bit bad. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 02:26, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * Really? Oh... I see... Never knew that, sorry... and how do you keep track of who is using the Campaign userbox so fast?? I put it up, two seconds later, you're on my talk page... Nova 02:30, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * In your case it was pure luck that I was so fast. I keep track of the participants by checking the 'what links here' page of the nogem icon, and I was posting the same message to everyone taking part in the campaign when you joined. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 02:37, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * Yay, I'm lucky, lol. Nova 02:40, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * But your still using the old version of the campaign user box. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 12:47, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * I'll change it soon. I'm en route to Hawaii now, what can you say? Nova 00:07, 13 January 2007 (CST)
 * Wow! Have a great time! --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 03:19, 13 January 2007 (CST)
 * Thanks! I'm back. It was warm there, rofl. Nova 12:13, 20 January 2007 (CST)

I can't find the new version of the user box! :( Nova 19:25, 21 January 2007 (CST)
 * Just click the link in the heading. The user box didn't change drastically, I just made small changed to the text and posibly the coding. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 05:06, 22 January 2007 (CST)
 * Ooh, I thought you changed it around and took out the heart... Nova 16:41, 23 January 2007 (CST)
 * The text now reads "the Gem icon" instead of "Gem's personal icons", which means it no longer prevents the use of the heart icon. I will update the icons sometime soon. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 05:07, 24 January 2007 (CST)
 * I see, I see... 19:27, 24 January 2007 (CST)

Discussion
trolls at level 10 you say? I win! Level 7 for my spirit bonder :) --Coloneh RIP 23:51, 12 January 2007 (CST)
 * Level 10 was an approximation. I think I started aT ~lvl 6, lol. Congrats anyways though. Sofun killing stuff at low levels. Nova 00:06, 13 January 2007 (CST)
 * to bad about the spirit bond nerf though. SoA works at level 13, but its really hard to kill things with 3 smiting.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 00:11, 13 January 2007 (CST)
 * Yeah. Not like 55ing and spirit bonding was easy and cheap! It was probably as good as any other build, like seriously, who's ever heard of PvPing with 55 or PvEing with55?? Nova 12:13, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Are we allowed to put items we want to sell on our user page? Or is that not allowed? --Nova 11:25, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * You are allowed to put almost anything on your user page. Sexual and oddensive material isn't allowed, and large images (or really many images) are not recommended. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 16:15, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * Thanks! and how do you upload pictures anyway? --Nova 16:56, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * There is an 'Upload image' link on the left in the toolbox. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 19:38, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * Ahh... and did someone change the "New Messages" from "Diff from penultimate revision" to "last change?" oops forgot to sign Nova 15:40, 29 January 2007 (CST)

New signature! Yay! -- Nova   -- 19:16, 11 February 2007 (CST)

testing -- Nova   -- 20:37, 11 February 2007 (CST)

Testing 2 -- Nova  (contribs) -- 21:21, 12 February 2007 (CST)


 * Only one sig icon allowed by our policy. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 21:35, 12 February 2007 (CST)
 * Link? 18:05, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Here: GW:SIGN. (T/C) 01:55, 19 February 2007 (CST)
 * Thanks. -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 20:43, 25 February 2007 (CST)

E/N Cryonic DoT Elementalist
So I moved the build back to untested and added a new R-A-B. However, I didn't add category tags so you have to do that yourself. Good luck. Defiant Elements 23:03, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 * Thanks. -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 20:43, 25 February 2007 (CST)

I'm experimenting with water right now, would you mind if I remade your build? I'm thinking maybe something like this:

Similar concept, but less exhaustion, and a win-win situation with Icy Shackles. Tycn 05:06, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

Discussion
It think Gem has cancelled the no gem campaign offically and wants people to remove the user boxes from their page, but still asks if people wont use the icon. -- "Wings" 08:17, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * Thanks. -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 08:21, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * np, can you sign me talk page plz, would be appricated. -- [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 08:22, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * You want publicity, don't you. Nice fancy heading on someone else's talk page. :( :P All right, will do. One sec. -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 08:23, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * No, i just wanna make my guest book really big since im one of the 2 known people to have a guest book or signing page, and the 2nd copyied my idea, cause i let him you will c in the signing like no.4 can i copy this plz. -- [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 08:24, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * Fine, fine, fine, there you go, my sig. Two bucks please. :P lol jks. -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 08:26, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * Ty, sorry spend last 2 bucks for the space to open me guest book. sorry -- [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 08:28, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * But, but, I spent 5 dollars getting the special India Ink and fountain pen to sign your guest book!! -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 08:29, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * Damb you got ripped, i just used the fountain ink pen chained to the book. -- [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 08:31, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * Aww shoot, didn't see that. *goes to wing's book with acid, melts chain, steals pen* -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 09:39, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 * *crys*give it back. -- [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 03:29, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 * Two bucks please. :P -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 08:08, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Does this build look good or even work?

Basicly use left to right until Repeating Strike then just spam that for 0 energy. If you get blind use Signet of Malice to remove it.
 * use for PvP for basicly spiking casters, even spamming Repeating Strike on Melee's or Rangers.
 * [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 08:23, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

umm.. o k... what was the point of your edit to my user_talk page, 1st you changed a word from else to otherwise and 2nd you didnt make the same change on my user page, i just want to know what the point of it was, its staying there for now lol. -- "Wings" 08:28, 17 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh. That just bugged me ^.^ Sorry. -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 08:29, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

lol can you check out my new idea for a competiot on Zerris user page, if you like can you support it, it found in his suggest a new competition. -- "Wings" 08:32, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

Hi
Hi. I need to apologize because I could'nt speak to you in game when you contacted me. We were about to set a GvG and speaking in english on team Speak and writting at the same time is something difficult for me. You'd better contact me by talk page anyway because i'm always busy in-game. I did'nt really understand what you meaned by adding my Judas Build in the humor page. I already added an humore flag in this page. If another specific humor page exist just give me the link i will add the page there. Thanks. --Ttibot 19:03, 2 March 2007 (CST)

R/Mo Melandru's Runner
When you compare Dodge and Escape you forget that Escape blocks all attack while Dodge only projectiles. And when you use Melandru's Resilience you don't have speed boost. Matek  13:20, 20 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Forgot that. :P Thanks for pointing that out. The thing I like about Resilience is that in places where rangers have to tank out damage, conditions and hexes, e.g. Droknar's run, it is tremendously useful as the regeneration usually overwrites the degeneration from most hexes, with the exception of Life Transfer and the like. Escape would be less useful there, but on the other hand, you won't have to tank out hexes if you can Escape from the casters fast enough ^.^ Anyways, I guess it's just different opinions. And thanks for visiting my user page, how did you get here?! -- Nova  [[Image:NovaSmall.PNG]] --  (contribs) 18:07, 20 March 2007 (CDT)

-- Nova   --  (contribs) 16:19, 2 May 2007 (CDT)

&mdash; Nova   --  (contribs) 16:26, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

&mdash; Nova   &mdash;  (contribs) 11:59, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Upload
Special:Upload. &mdash;Sig mA  09:18, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * ?-- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs)

Talk:Maxine_Coldstone you asked how to upload, there I said it. &mdash;Sig mA  09:21, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I asked about 3-4 months ago :) -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 09:22, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Lol, didn;t note the timestamp :P My bad. &mdash;Sig mA [[Image:Sigm@Oo.gif|19px]] 09:24, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * No problem... happy belated birthday, very belated :P -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 09:31, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

lawl

Chance meeting
re: Comment Intriguing. (Sorry about delayed response; didn't notice your message). What is your IGN? And yes, a lot of people ask that. Not quite as annoying as the woman who reviews books under the nym Blue November, but hey. Why can't people google for conflicts before chosing their name ¬_¬. I was here first damn it xD Great paragon build linked to in your page btw. Using something similar in hard-mode myself. Hard mode is like the stealth buff for Paragons/Mesmers.

--BlueNovember 08:42, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
 * My IGN is Paladin Blazestar. ^_^ That paragon build is what I'm going to use when I get Nightfall ;) I'm glad to know it works well :P -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 08:50, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Right now, I'm writing up an extremely complicated B/P Team Build ^_^ -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 08:50, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Invited
Greetings noobcake!You are such a nubcake that you get to join (if you wish) Cheese's Nooby Guildhall Challenge! Have a good time and...if the hall page isn't very descriptive now, it will be soon...so live with it:D.&mdash;  Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 19:12, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

July 4th
Happy birthday! –  Mgrinshpon  (talk)  09:35, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Grrrrratz =) &mdash; Shady Guy  [[Image:shadyguysig.gif|19px]] 09:36, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Thank you, everybody! Thank you! And nice new sig, Sigm@. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 09:49, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Later than these guys, but happy b-day anyways. Lord of all tyria 09:51, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Have a very happy B-DAY! If I see you in game I'll give you a present, if I dont, NO PRESENT FOR YOU!  And no soup!  The kitchen has closed down becuase of all the newbs wanting free food.--Gigathrash 09:53, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Soup, soup! And NP Loat, I only posted it like an hour ago. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 09:54, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

RA
Maybe you should put a link to your Twelve Days of RA page in the Linkies section? It's great! --Gimmethegepgun 14:49, 8 July 2007 (CDT)
 * How the fudge did you find that buried page?! -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:51, 8 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Special:prefixindex, naturally :p - Auron 10:55, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

Uh
Why do you want me to alter my signature text?.. &mdash; Skuld 17:47, 6 August 2007 (CDT)
 * You should make it cool. Just my opinion. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 18:01, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

Really?
Of all the possible creative character pages, you go with.. my (stolen from Biro a million years ago) 1st gen wiki main page design? Well, it's a start I guess ;) --Nunix 22:19, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I like it the best :) It fits my style. I'm going to incorporate some show/hide dropdown character pages (hopefully Auron will let me use his template), and probably change the colours around a bit. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 07:17, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * =O what?!?! first generation wiki main page design?!?! -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 10:37, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

Nice
User Page :). Readem (talk *contribs ) 13:52, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks very much :D I'm going to fix the show/hide problem soon. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 13:54, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Like the gif? ;p -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 13:54, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * May I fix your page, or at least attempt to? Readem (talk *contribs ) 14:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * What do you have in mind? Sure, go ahead though. I trust you :D -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

For example, this:

Readem (talk *contribs ) 14:08, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * It appears that to close them, one must have another pressuring it, persay. So, I am going to try and make your page into template sections, and see if that works :P. If it doesn't, I will merely rv myself :). Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 14:10, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, oh. I was about to add another one of my characters up there :S -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:14, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * But - oh - whatthe - template sections? You and your templates. Your user page is one big unnecessary template. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:15, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I don't have anything against that though ^_^ -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:16, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Ofc, overlycomplicated just as I planned :P. Don't worry, messing around with it in my Sandbox :P. Try to make it simple. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 14:18, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I failed bad at adding a second character. It goes outside of the main box and it seems something is wrong with it. I think templates might be needed :| -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:26, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Try this :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 14:39, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Very nice, very nice. Except that you did not have to add my list of quest in there, nor the magic words NOEDITSECTION & NOTOC, but it's very nice :D Thank you. -- Nova   --  (contribs) 14:48, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * All you did was draw that line and put them into separate templates right? -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 14:48, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Ok, now as you can see, the hide feature is now correctly working :). I also divided the characters into their own separate Templates for your convenience. I also already pre-set 2 extra characters, when you feel like adding them. Merely fill in the blanks, and your done! To change any of your characters, merely go to these template pages: Finally, if you want, I can design something to make it so you are able to quickly access all of your templates :) (Been meaning to make one for myself tbh :P) Hope you like it, if not, I understand ;). (And yes, it was as simple as cut+Paste and linelineline :P) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 14:52, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * User:Nova/Template:Character1
 * User:Nova/Template:Character2
 * User:Nova/Template:Character3
 * User:Nova/Template:Character4
 * Well, later then :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 14:55, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Heh. Thanks very much, Readem. I really appreciate it. :D Have a cookie. -- Nova   --  (contribs) 14:56, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

sidebar
See if you can figure out how to make the right sidebar not-expand with a lot of empty space when you show a character? ;D For.. uh.. for your own good! Not for selfish reasons because I'm going to take all the code for myself. No. Nope. Nuh uh. --Nunix 20:49, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh. I knew that problem was going to happen... see Auron's user page for an example. I'll get to work on it though... someday.. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 20:53, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
 * sjhseserhsejr im tired of trying to make it work. i phail bad. -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 19:36, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Aww no worries. Hey, sorry about yesterday; power outage! Did you want some assistance on some of those master-diff quests? --Nunix 14:22, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Power outage! Anyways, I managed to make it work, utilizing templates (thanks Readem!) to prevent one box's height from affecting the other one's height. I simply placed a template with the sidebar in place of the sidebar. But even with cellspacing set at 0, there is still a lot of blank space, probably there by default, that I can't seem to get rid of. It's the best I can do, anyways. The template I used is here: User:Nova/Template:Novabox. Note that width is set at 100% because it is 100% of the alloted space for the chart... which on the user page is 25%, but on template page is 100%.
 * About the master difficulty quests... Thanks for the offer, but I pwn all master quests in Istan. Maybe in Kourna, though, since I'm on the Survivor title track... ;)
 * On a side note, I just did Consulate Docks with a French-speaking Dervish (NO idea at all how we managed) but our party was so leet (him as AoB derv with Tahlkora and Dunkoro, and Whispers as MM, then me as Motivation para with Koss as a gladiator tank and Acolyte Jin as Burning Arrow, and Olias as a second MM [there were more than enough corpses for both the MMs]) we could have probably pwn'd Varesh and all her demons if it were not for the cutscene. We had like a massive army going, a huge blob of green on the map... around 20 minions, eight of us, and some amount of sunspear reinforcements... awesome pwning.
 * Well, again, enjoy the coding, and I hope to play with you in-game sometime soon. :)
 * -- Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] --  (contribs) 16:26, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. :)
Thanks for looking me up, I had fun ABing with you. Let's do stuff together again soon. :) Arshay Duskbrow 21:48, 22 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Anytime. :D &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 21:57, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

To the puppy
Hello puppy.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ₮ /ḉ〛 19:36, 31 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Puppy sez: Ohaidere. Who are you. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 07:44, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Buying
If you're still selling that stuff, I'd like to buy some. 15^50 inscription, Shield of the Lion and the Zealous Axe haft. IGN Damian the Difiled - <font color="#000080">(snō hwīt tăn)  [sic]  09:42, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

note to self
i owe tycn 1 transmogrifier tonic. edit via ip to add new messages.

Yo.
Hey, thanks a bunch for that help earlier, messing around with Hero builds... I've got both Anton and Zenmai running some pretty kick-ass builds now (and they actually work). I took them both out into Isle of the Nameless, and just sicced them on random NPCs... it was awesome. They have trouble with some of the fighters out there (which is expected), but they normally can handle it if I sic 'em both on the same guy. Poor Axe Warrior didn't stand a chance; I used him to test the attack chains, then sent them both out at once and watched him die.

Anton's skills:
 * 11 Dagger Mastery
 * 11 Critical Strikes
 * 8 Deadly Arts

Zenmai's skills:
 * 11 Dagger Mastery
 * 11 Critical Strikes
 * 8 Shadow Arts

They work especially well both on the same target. Just going alone, I would probably merge some of the attack chain together, just BSS and Twisting. But the current setups work awesomely. --<font color="#237d00"> Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  01:46, 15 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Teehee. Sin heroes generally can't handle chains longer than three attacks long, and I believe they were programmed especially for lead-offhand-dual. But yeh, if those can work together (a single pair of offhand-dual teehee) then that's awesome. I'll talk to you ingame. &mdash; Nova  [[Image:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg]] &mdash;  (contribs) 08:48, 15 September 2007 (CDT)
 * As a matter of fact, I gave Anton Black Spider Strike > Vampiric Assault > Black Lotus Strike, and he managed to use that fairly well, despite it being a slightly complicated chain. He would always start BSS > Vampiric, then when he had enough energy, he's fire off BLS. By that time, Vampiric would be recharged (or close to it), so he'd use that again. Sometimes he'd use them in quicker succession, and only once did he use both offhands before the dual. I was pretty happy with it.
 * Another note; it's a little tough to test Hexes for enabling those chains. Siphon Speed is always the first thing Anton activates, but he never uses it twice on the dummies. Turns out that's because they don't move. I had him beat up on the healer and enchanting NPCs, and the moment they move, he snares them again. Shadowy Burden, Zenmai seems to use it more often; she's programmed to really take advantage of the reduced armor, too. If you really watch how they use their skills, it's actually possible to figure out a bit of the reasoning. Pretty fun; perhaps I can make a decent Assassin Hero build to submit to PvX; I kinda promised I wouldn't submit another build there unless I had to, but they've got zero Hero builds there. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  14:57, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

hi
entropy cant unsigned me now! 65.95.24.153 21:27, 15 September 2007 (CDT)

colons
lol, I'm surprised no one in the past has done something like that. At least you reverted it quickly... --Gimmethegepgun 01:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Happy November Day
<3 tyty. =) --BlueNovember 09:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Random thought
You tried out the rockets on Armadillo Run? :D -- -- (s)talkpage 18:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Rate-a-user
I don't know if that's a joke or not, but what have I ever done to you (recently)? (T/C) 23:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)