GuildWiki talk:Redirect

Vote

 * Increase redirect usage (allow below types of redirects)
 * Alekti 17:23, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * --Vindexus 06:57, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
 * (your vote here)
 * No change to redirect usage (disallow below types of redirects)
 * &mdash; Skuld
 * --Rainith 15:24, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Greven 15:35, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Xasxas256 22:15, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
 * - Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:37, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
 * [[Image:ST47logo.jpg|User:ST47|50px]] (talk) 17:26, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * (your vote here)
 * Abstain
 * (your vote here)

Discussion
I would like to (re?)open discussion on where redirects should be used on the site. In particular, I am for significantly increasing the usage of redirects to cover the following:
 * Synonyms (Hall of heroes -> The Hall of Heroes)
 * Plurals (Weapons -> Weapon)
 * Mixed-capitalization workaround (Amulet of the mists -> Amulet of the Mists)
 * Note: The MediaWiki behavior for case-sensitivty makes it so titles with mixed caps are case-sensitive when using the "Go" box. Having one (1) of the above type of redirect, from the all-lowercase version, works around that limitation. It is not'' necessary to construct every possible capitalization variant. Nor do titles without mixed caps need a redirect of this type.

My arguments for this change are:
 * Redirects help users get to their destinations faster
 * Redirects reduce server load by lowering the number of search queries
 * Redirects themselves take essentially zero server resources, in space or time
 * Redirects are "self-justifying" -- the only time a user will see a redirect is if they type that form of the term. Thus, a redirect is only seen by those users for which it is useful, and harmless to everyone else.

For reference; Wikipedia uses a very wide variety of redirects, for mainly the above reasons.

-- 66.92.33.187 15:18, 19 June 2006 (CDT)


 * In our case, I believe our policy is:
 * Acronyms: GvG --> Guild versus Guild
 * Synonyms: leaver --> quitter
 * Very common misnomers: Silver Armor --> Sliver Armor (this might even be disputed)
 * Common name to official name: Amnoon Oasis --> The Amnoon Oasis
 * Different capitalizations of Acronyms: gvg --> Guild Versus Guild
 * We do not by policy redirect plurals to singluars. That's unnecessary as you can link with the "s" outisde most of the time and searching for the plural is uncommon and will lead you to the single article most likely. On the flip side, maintaining a plural redirect for every single noun in this wiki is ridiculous.
 * Did I get everything? --Karlos 16:42, 19 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Maybe I was unclear; I was not suggesting that anyone go through and add all possible instances of these redirects; only that if someone wanted to add a particular instance of one of them, they should be allowed. At the moment, they seem to be deleted without discussion. I have added notes to the vote categories to clarify.
 * Also, note that plural/singular redirects are already used for a number of articles, including among others: Weapon to Weapons; Henchman to Henchmen; Runes to Rune; Command to Commands; Weapon upgrades to Weapon upgrade. These redirects seem to be useful, so I don't see the point of having a policy against them.
 * Lastly; it seems odd to allow acronym caps correction (gvg) but not other caps correction (amulet of the mists).
 * -- 66.92.33.187 20:13, 19 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Heh, most (if not all) if these plural->singular redirects are actually moved pages. --Karlos 02:51, 20 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I would vote here, but I think what I really want to say is this:
 * I don't think it should be GuildWiki policy to add redirects for plurals or obvious mistakes, but equally I don't think it should be our policy to remove them unless they are incorrect. &lt;LordBiro&gt;/&lt;Talk&gt; 01:39, 27 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I agree that more redirects would be good for the listed reasons. --Vindexus 06:57, 24 July 2006 (CDT)


 * If a relevent/sensible search comes up with the article then I don't see why a redirect is useful. --Xasxas256 07:01, 24 July 2006 (CDT)


 * I'm ambivalent about the kind of redirects mentioned above (plurals, mixed cases, synonyms), but for "PvP shorthand" names like "boon prot" or "SB/infuse" I'd rather see a page with a short explanation and links to builds that would qualify as such a build than a redirect to one build. --68.142.14.19 07:27, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Vote Status
This vote has been open for over a month. I believe that's more than long enough, it's time to close the vote. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:31, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * It's a real problem when a vote is called but no closing date is specified. The latest round of discussion and voting seems to have finished, 1 month is long enough, I agree should be closed. Unless someone objects I'll try to remember to come back and close this within the next hour or two. --Xasxas256 19:17, 25 July 2006 (CDT)