User talk:The unkown elven

i've always heared that wiki build sucked. i wanted to try to see if there was a way to help in a place where good builds were shared but now i know that the reason Guild wiki is a where good builds are never found. not enough testing and input by the community, those who come on to guild wiki.

the answer to why guild wiki builds suck and good one are never found is becuase of the bias attidutes and idotic minds of some of those who rate the builds.

here is all that was said in order to consider it unfavored...

what was posted
Build talk:R/Me Epidemic Ranger From GuildWiki Jump to: navigation, search [edit] Rate-a-build

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Favoured:

1. Having used a build like this since the release of factions I have to admit I like it. Fevered Archer makes use of a hex, that is something I do not generally do. The build is great because you can substitute so many key effects into the build. For example if you know you are going to be going against something you do not need to Daze you can use burning,poison. The problem with the hex is that it can be stripped and epidemic can not. Each has it's own downside and it's own upside, but for me the epidemic build makes more sense. Also with using epidemic build you are free to use that elite slot for much better attacks. Using Fevered Archer you could not take burning arrow, or broad head arrow. Though FA has the area better what I like to do is go in and pick my target then hit them with BHA from out of agro range quickly epidemic because epidemics cast is only 1/4 compared to 2 sec for FD I can get them both off fast. Tenetke 05:24, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Unfavoured:

1. This has been done before and it also copies the Fevered Archer build pretty closely more than seems to be inspired from it. Epidemic isn't enough to spread alone in PvE anymore as the enemies scatter too much and rarely will group close enough. Fevered Dreams covers a large area and works much better. Not to mention that Screaming Shot > Hunter's for bleeding. If you can cripple, bleed, daze, and poison a target and have them run (with criple... hrmm...) close enough to most of the mob while clicking away on Epidemic than it may be worth it but that doesn't happen and you'd run out of energy (I suggest Druids as the preferred armor too). I'd love to use BHA in an area but it just doesn't work as good as one would hope in this build.--Image:VallenIconwhitesmall.JPG Vallen Frostweaver 13:08, 19 January 2007 (CST) 2. Honestly, while I think this does work, I don't think it does the job as well as the Feverish Archer. Defiant Elements 22:52, 20 January 2007 (CST) 3. epidemic sucks — Skuld 15:15, 23 January 2007 (CST) 4. Feverish does this better. ALOT better.--SBR 15:25, 23 January 2007 (CST)

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Discussion
I like the concept of spreading a fair amount of conditions, but the problem is that this most likely wouldn't work too well in HA, just because people tend to be spread a slight bit further apart than "adjacent", even if they are Crippled, and therefore Epidemic would be rendered useless. In PvE, this would probably work because of the groups mnosters tend to be in. Nhnowell 17:13, 16 January 2007 (CST)

...Not too bad, but you've got to remember that in PvE, your opportunities to apply Poison and Bleeding gradually become scarcer and scarcer. Burning would be nice in this build, though with the current setup you can't fit it in. Entropy 17:17, 16 January 2007 (CST)

I just checked, and this is the exact same thing as the Feverish Archer except exchanging some skills, like concussion for BHA and fevered for epidemic...--Kickside 02:42, 18 January 2007 (CST)

Not a bad idea, but pin-down isn't going to be very useful (I've always found crippling in PvE to be utterly underwhelming), and hunter's shot is meh. I'd replace those two. Spreading daze to a group of casters seems like fun though. The problem is then hitting them all - take a barrage hero ;) NightAngel 07:36, 18 January 2007 (CST)

This is not like Feverish Archer at all. FA uses Fevered Dreams to spread conditions, and although it may appear similar FD is a hex. While epidemic is not. FD suffers from all the negatives that any hex spell will, while epidemic can be used on the "fly" to spread more conditions. I posted a similar build on ranger forums soon after the release of Factions, it is similar but not the exact build. In my opinion it is much more flexible. Tenetke 04:18, 20 January 2007 (CST)

I prefer epdemic over FD because it allows to switch targets and spread more conditions, aslo becuase team members do not always cause conditions to your target. Not having to spend any attribute points into the meser attributes that you only have one skill more effective use of attributte points. The Epidemic ranger is a build that can be use by people who have only one or two of the campains, not owning Prophecies, making it more versitle to people who don't own all three campains. This buld also makes use of many of the ranger's elite condital attacks that allow more variations to deal with enemies. Yes Epidemic has a short range, but it allows much more flexibility with conditions caused--The unkown elven 15:02, 23 January 2007 (CST)

they compared it only to something that already existed, instead of testing and analyzing it for what it is.

i don't give a shit if people hate me here or even ban me. this is a page out the unkown elven and this is his rant about the shittyness of the quailty control of the build testing.