Talk:Secondary professions for a Ranger

Rewrite
I think this whole page needs to be rewritten, and this time by some1 who actually knows what there talking about, and i removed the dervish part(what 6 year old kid wrote that??) Kurd 10:22, 14 January 2007 (CST)
 * Ok i corrected some stuff:
 * The R/W runner part isnt correct as the energy cost of non-ranger-shout isnt reduced
 * Removed the EoE bomb under the R/Mo section
 * Corrected the paragon section
 * Removed these example builds:
 * , has been nerfen and has a unfavor template
 * , has been nerfen and has a :unfavor template
 * Build:R/Me Cripshot Ranger, has been nerfen and has a unfavor template
 * , removed as it has a unfavor template, added Build:R/A_Burning_Arrow_Ganksman
 * We still need to fill the dervish section but overal i think its accurate now ---> Kurd 11:27, 14 January 2007 (CST)

Preliminary information: good or bad? I made a reasonably effective during the Nightfall PVP preview, and the R/P Pack Hunter was a big favourite among the newly introduced builds. I'm against speculation in article-pages, but I don't think it'd hurt much in these cases, given that we already have some information to work with. --Black Ark 04:52, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 * It might be good, but you'll have to add a { {c3} } tag to the page that warns people that some of the information may not apply when Nightfall is officially released.
 * Best not do it. Who needs the info if you can't even create one yet? It would just mean that we need to do a lot of updating later. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 04:57, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

The R/P section ought to be partially rewritten to address the Expertise nerf. --Desme 04:22, 27 November 2006 (CST)

Shouts/Chants
In the R/P section it says that Expertise Lowers paragon's shouts and chants. This is not true as far as I know. Is this a mistake? Lionfire


 * It got changed, they used to work on all non-spells &mdash; Skuld 18:10, 4 January 2007 (CST)


 * That wasn't my point. The point was that the R/P section of the article is wrong. Lionfire


 * You could fix it if you know it to be wrong? :) &mdash; Skuld 19:00, 4 January 2007 (CST)


 * I wouldn't know what to do be delete it. That wouldn't be constructive would it... Lionfire


 * Okay, I did it. Doesn't like much better. And I NEED to work on typos. Lionfire

Clean-up
By god, some of these notes are horrible! Readem (talk *contribs ) 19:31, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

delete
see Category talk:Profession combinations --Honorable Sarah 22:38, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Elementalist
How come you removed the section about R/E? Conjures are very good for adding extra damage onto Barrage, Kindle, and even regular shots. It deserves to be there --Gimmethegepgun 20:52, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

Assassin Secondary
Ranger/AssassinRangers get very little benefit from this profession combination. Are you kidding me?Just go play an AB to see the R/A with escape whirling defense and dagger skills.Wormtongue Gr 00:15, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The entire PvXwiki community disagrees, mostly because assassins are able to use much better dagger chains than rangers. The e-management provided by expertise is actually overshadowed by critical strikes, and primary assassins have a free secondary. Toraen  (Talk  / Contrib)  10:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never understood why people make a R/A with a dagger chain. Lower damage, inferior energy management are traded for survivability (which could be attained by using Shroud of Distress, Critical Defences etc) Silver Sunlight [[Image:SSunlight.jpg|18px]] (T/C) 11:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Shroud of Distress is commonly held to be bugged- it often only works if you're under 50% when you cast it. 10.8.2.70 11:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lightning Reflexes and Whirling Defense zomg [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 11:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never noticed it not working... Either way, most Assassin chains are "hit and run", prolonged survivability isn't all that important. Silver Sunlight [[Image:SSunlight.jpg|18px]] (T/C) 11:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Smite Ranger?
Couldnt we add the smite ranger on here? 68.221.121.31 23:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ...what is that? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Something about Smite being an attack skill if I recall correctly. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome to three years ago? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well gosh, you think of something then. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, maybe he means Stonesoul Strike and Holy Strike, which are reduced by expertise. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a horrible build. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Dual shot with smiting prayers buffz? A ranger that farmz smites? A spelling nazi who smitez me for my bad spelling? Deviant Priest 03:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The only buff you could use is Judge's Insight, and that is a lot of energy/long cast time for a pretty meh effect (compared to Conjures etc.) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Then in my personal opinion IP address probably maybe meant this pvx build Deviant Priest 04:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That makes a lot of sense, actually. Might want to list R/N farming builds too. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean mention there's some synergy between stone striker, ranger armor, and storm chaser? Or is that sarcasm I detect? (I can never tell on the enterweb) Deviant Priest 04:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Pure Was Mi Ling
I don't see how that is any more relevant to Rangers than any other class. Besides, it conflicts with Antidote Signet and isn't affected by Expertise...and I don't think it would be useful on a split or spike. (T/C) 01:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I take it on Felix when I get CoF runs... but that's not actually playing GW. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)