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item unlocking
Hi all,

I am trying to find out how item unlocking works. Is there an article on this wiki about it because I can't find it. There is a few things I am trying to find out. Skill unlocking seems straight forward acquire a skill in PvE and it is unlocked. But with runes for example it doesn't seem to work this way. I have some superior runes sitting in my vault (and I found; identified and salvaged these myself) but these don't seem to be unlocked (checking at the priest of balthazar). As for item upgrades I see only max upgrades are listed what about lesser upgrade items? Well thats all I guess might start an article about this myself. Carnelain 22:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would you want to use the lesser mod? It's not displayed because using the superior mod is better.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * In theory, identifying an item will unlock it. For runes, it's pretty simple, but for item upgrades, you can only purchase 1 or 2 levels of it (not-max and max). However, if you id a non-max upgrade higher than what you've got unlocked now, you'll unlock up to how good the item is. Sorry if that's confusing... it is.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  22:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See Unlock for the page with the details.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  22:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * >alari I wanted to see what me current max is. I don't have a pvp char so I tried the priest. >entrea It is not confusing at all it makes perfect sense but at the priest I can't see what my highest unlocked upgrade is. For the runes however I have like three or four superiors sitting in my vault which I didn't buy to store. I'd swear I identified 'em myself but they do not show up as unlocked. There is indeed the possibility I am wrong and I got 'em for free but I don't think it's very likely. Anyway thanks for the quick responses. [[image:haiku2k72_leaf_bg_white_tiny.jpg]] Carnelain 23:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

days in a month
I was wondering how many days there are in a month to determine the age of your character, that way I can find out how many exact days there are until I get my next birthday present.
 * Hmm that's a very good question, if I had to take a guess I would say 30 but I never really put much thought into that..--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 02:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You get you're next present precisely 365 days after your last one. I think Guild Wars uses a fairly accurate calendar, probably even including leap days.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  02:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think it counts leap days, because my characters this year have been getting their presents a day early. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of bdays my war just got her present, only a white but I get a little frog dude to follow me around now.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 02:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

So if i have been playing for 23 months, this month being the 23rd, how many approximate days are there until i get a present?
 * It depends on what day the character was made. --Shadowcrest  02:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You would basically, need to remember when you created your character to answer that question. I sometimes wish it gave you a day breakdown, because my Ranger has been sitting at 35 months for the longest now. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] User:Isk8 (T / C)  02:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why can't they tell you your age, not more-or-less age?[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]Entrea  [Talk]  02:21, 22 May 2008

Well then hopefully they do that in GW2. Anyways tyvm for your responses, they were very helpful :)
 * There are, on average, 30.436875 days in a month. Quizzical 04:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Gunnar Poundfist
I completed Curse of the Nornbear but I can't locate Gunnar Poundfist in Gunnar's Hold in order to get the Quest Truthseeker. What's going on??
 * Unless the update somehow made him disappear, he should still be there. I had trouble finding this guy at first, too. He's waaaaay over on the east end of town. I think you have to go over a bridge to get to him. You won't be able to find him by holding ALT and walking around the merchant NPCs unless you head towards the bridge I mentioned.


 * If you still can't find him, take a look at this. You see the bridge on the south east corner? he should be across it.-- franc likes tacos 02:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks much! got it now

HM guide
I was looking through the different guides and was surprised that there isn't a guide to Vanquishing areas. I have been able to complete a few areas, but there are areas I cannot seem to beat no matter what, like Grothmar Wardowns, cannot get the charr groups to fall no matter what. Anyone have any tips on this?
 * many of the explorable areas have vanquishing tips somewhere in the article. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  03:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If you think there should be vanquishing guides, the solution is for you to write them. It's likely that the reason why such guides don't exist is that very few have the proper expertise.  Unlike missions, there's no reason for a character to vanquish an area more than ones.  There's not that much reason to vanquish an area with multiple characters, either.  Someone who has vanquished an area only once doesn't have the proper expertise to write a decent guide, and if he did it by cheats like ursan blessing, knows even less about vanquishing the area.  Quizzical 03:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The other problem is that most areas have multiple ways in which they can be vanquished, and not that many require a very specific strategy. So even if such guides were written they would be of questionable value. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Grothmar Wardowns is a very hard area to vanquish. Personally, I did it by finishing the mission Against the Charr. That clears all the mobs in the fortress in the middle. The rest is relatively easy, however any EotN Charr group is a formidable foe. They actually have good builds (unlike most mobs), often balanced parties, good teamwork and if one of you dies it can cascade pretty quickly because of their Gloats. If worse comes to worst, buy a full set of EotN Consumables and you can win pretty much anything with little to no effort... &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 06:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm doing such a guide, just for the sake of doing it, but the problem is that is suck at both writing and vanquishing. but then Here it is. Feel free to edit/add areas. --Rotfl Mao 08:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

what the hell
why did i get kicked off gw all i tried doing was selling stuff no told me i wasnt alowd to do it in the chat box so why did i get kicked off now i cant play thats so un far &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.179.47.238 (contribs).
 * You can contact Guild Wars Support to contest your ban, but there's nothing we can do for you here. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hero & Runes
The other day on guild wiki I found a page on someones user page which listed all their Characters Heros and what Runes/insignies they had on them. Does anyone know which user/page this is? I've tried a few times but I cannot find it. I'd like to borrow this to manage my Runes etc. Ta. Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 08:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Try search only in user space and search keywords like 'heroes runes'. Anyway, here is an example (there are more) User:Flesh_Over_Steel/Heroes -- [[Image:merty_sign.gif]]-- ( talk ) 08:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I tried all sorts of searches in the user space, Just couldnt find anything :D Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 08:47, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You add insignias and runes to your heroes - they don't come pre-equipped
 * Thx IP, but I was after a Wiki Page that I can use to Show me which of my heros have which runes equipped, etc. Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 15:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Question
What are we going to do about the new balance differences between PvE/PvP, in terms of skill articles. Sorry if this has already been asked anywhere, i didnt look very hard-- - (<B><font color="Blue">Talk </B>/<font color="Green"><B>Contribs</B> ) 19:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It has, look harder. &mdash; Powersurge360 Violencia  19:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Helpful as always Surge. GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] User:Isk8 (T / C)  19:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What Quests Have I Completed?
Is there any way to get a listing of/or determine which quests I've already done? Khukri 14:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, no.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]<font color="Black">ìğá†ħŕášħ 01:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

charactors
i was just wanting to know if i could take my player from proph. and play with him in factions if i can please let me know Joe houser 22:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)--Joe houser 22:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can! There is a quest that you can take in Lion's Arch which will allow you to move your Prophecies character into Factions, provided you own Factions of course. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Mhenlo's Request--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 22:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That really sucks, that was not the answer I wanted to hear. XD 14:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khukri (contribs).

If you own Factions, take the quest in Lion's Arch and invite youre friend for a party. He probably needs Factions too.

SLOW MOVING MASTER OF WHISPERS
My Master of Whispers moves his minions slow into the battle and sometimes it takes forever to get them into the fight. Does anyone know why this is happening or what I can do about it? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.101.32.62 (contribs).
 * You could potentially set Master of Whispers to "Attack" mode, but be warned that he'll frequent leap ahead and aggro random mobs. The AI really has no idea how to coax minions into battle, so normally the best you can do is flag Master a bit forward so his minions get within range of the enemy more quickly. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 05:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if you pause your movement for a moment, minion master heroes tend to stop to cast Blood of the Master or to animate another minion... and this tends to be another reason they fall behind. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  I~sk8   (T/C) 05:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I found that Death Nova was the most common cause of MM lag - BotM not so much. The easiest solution is to just flag the MM along, like Felix said, but you can also force the hero to use an offensive skill (if you have one equipped) or use the "lock" button to lock the MM into attacking your target.  Either of those will force the MM to interact with a foe, which will cause the minions to attack.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * My personal preference lies in PSing him and sending him in first... after bonding up the minions with Death Nova a bit :P Oh, and he is always on attack. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 15:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally let my MM fall behind; if he's far enough behind (normally not far at all), he'll run to keep up, and stop casting spells. I don't mind him showing up to the battle a few seconds late when I do aggro, since I generally keep aggro under control on my own... and once a few melee foes have charged me, the minions are more then happy to mimic their movements. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Bonus weekends
Hi my name is George.. I am wondering a few things about the bonus weekends...

I played Guild Wars thru the triple key and lockpick drop/and bonus point weekend only to get a total of 3 keys on sunday... I ran in eye of north in factions and in prophecies... I used myself 22 lockpicks and of those only retained 2... So i am wondering how me and my account are supposed to be benefiting from this... Granted, i was able to work on my UNLUCKY title track a good bit, but lets be honest here... That was not the way I wanted to spend my 3x drop/and 2x bonus weekend...

Now i have bought all 4 guild wars games for me and my family 4 times ea... My wife, both my boys, and myself only to find that we just are not deserving of these bonus weekends...

Thanks...I really appreciate that... You have showed me that all i have done is for nothing...

This is not an isolated event either... You had a green drop weekend a few months back... My wife and I as well as several members of my guild got 1 green out of all the farming we did... NICE...

Another thing... You have the ability to change, mod, or ban an account... So why prey tell am I, The Leader of a Kurzick Guild getting several mini siege turtles for bday pets... It is as if u are just adding insult to injury now... Though I can sit back and watch some of the rudest, most unappreciative scammers benefit from all that I am not able too...

I really like the game but if there is no bonus for me to play... Why should I??? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.219.151.29 (contribs).


 * First off, I would like to say that I feel your pain on this one. My favorite line when it comes to these so called double this and triple that weekends, is 3 times 0 is still 0.  I think in my entire career of Lockpicks, I've maybe retained 1 or 2.  Lockpick retention is all based on the difficulty of the area, and normal or hard mode, as well as your titles in Lucky and Treasure Hunter.  I have I lousy 1 in both titles, increasing my chances, negligibly.  Mini pets are all another game of chance.  I've got 2 accounts, and an inherited 3rd account, and User:Isk8/Minipets as you can see there, my mini pet record is not much greater than yours.  I have 5 siege turtles and 4 hydras.
 * The various weekend events all give different bonuses to different areas of play. You will see that typically every other weekend is dedicated to some PvP bonus.  Just take it with a grain of salt.  Anet is not required to give us these weekend events, they choose to.  It is an extra addition to a great game.  As to your final question as why you should play.  Well first off, I hope you play because you enjoy the game, and not because you expect bonus weekends all the time.  Its a free online game, which is one of the reasons I still play it.  Guild Wars login announcements/Archive lists every login announcement, which the majority is all the past weekend events.
 * My last point is, that we are merely a Guild Wars Fansite. No Guild Wars employees work for us, so we can only give you advice pertaining to these complaints you have, and not really get you any farther.  I would suggest This official wiki page to ask a question pertaining to your aggravation on the subject.  I think that is about as far as I can direct you.  Don't let something as silly as a lousy weekend event ruin your gameplay experience.  It is a great game with mostly great people playing it.  Just go out and enjoy yourself. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 14:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * {ec}I can understand your frustration, but trust me, it happens to alot of people. while it may seem you only see the persons with the coolest items and everything, really they are a minority. your unfortunate hunt for keys is most likely also not an issolated incident. normally keys dont have a very high percentage of dropping. triple that percentage and you still don't get a high number. the same goes for greens. Ow and as a response to your last sentence. I think playing with your wife and kids is a nice bonus :) <font color="Green">Lยкץ๒๏ץ <font color="Blue">talk  14:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a pretty disappointing key drop w/e too. I've found that every single chest I've opened has always yeilded some useless weapon..but on another note, how are you getting several mini turtles as b/day presents? I wish I could get some, but I've only been playing GW for about 2 months now. Consider yourself very lucky to be playing with the rest of your family.Khukri 14:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You get bday presents for every one of your characters birthdays, 12\24\36 months after character creation. If you want a siege turtle, you can have one lol. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]  I~sk8   (T/C) 14:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've personally got a small pile of Miniature Jungle Trolls from my b-day presents. :D All a matter of luck, sadly.
 * Just a note on Isk8's comment; While the official wiki's "Ask A Game Question" page is helpful, it's the exact same as this page; no game mods answer questions there, it's all answered by normal players (such as myself; I'm a semi-regular on that page as well). If you're really worried, I'd suggest contacting [www.guildwars.com/support Support] instead, although they're probably just tell you it's just bad luck.
 * On that note, a total of three keys? Compared to my normal drop rate for this event, that's three times as many keys as me. Do you often get keys dropping for you on regular (non-event) days? I'd say you're actually fairly lucky in that regard. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  14:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Factions character can't get any quests in Ascalon City
Hi, I have a character from Factions that I've successfully managed to get to Lions Arch. I've done the quests I've found from LA and have taken a "run" to Ascalon and Piken Square but I cannot get any quests/missions from there? Is there a particular quest I need to do so I can start from Ascalon post searing like any other Prophecies character as I'd like to meet some friends who've only got Prophecies and have just started playing GW.Khukri 14:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As a factions born character, you don't have access to any quests prior to Lions Arch. You can go back and do the missions, but that is about it.  You won't get the primary quests, or any secondary quests before Lions Arch. The best suggestion is to party with them, and have them "lead" the way, as they will have the quests.  You unfortunately won't get the quests or rewards. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 14:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As a foreign character in Prophecies, you can do all the missions without doing the corresponding quests; a good number of those early quests are for Prophecies-born characters only, so you won't be able to do them. So long as you meet up with your friends, you'll still be able to join up with them and help out on quests, as well as doing the missions.
 * If you can just ask your friend which quest he's currently doing at any given moment, hop into GuildWiki and look up the quest; the requirements will tell you if it's for Prophecies-characters only, or if you missed another quest. That's the simplest way to go about it. If you can't do the quest, then just help your friend finish it. :D --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  14:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

dervish help
is it possible to create a dervish in the prophesies campaign instead of the nightfall campaign well of course after you have purchased nightfall because i really don't wanna have to go through all that questing again.....
 * Nope, dervishes can only be created in nightfall. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * However, characters created in other campaigns can effectively skip well over half of Prophecies, if your goal is to complete it. Get a run from Lion's Arch to Sanctum Cay, get a run through that, get a desert tour, and then do the missions from there. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OR: Get a run form lions arch to beacons perch, get a run to droks from there, get to thunderhead keep and then the Ring of fire missions and your done.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 00:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You still have to do a good chunk of Nightfall now that they closed the Guild Hall ferry. That's probably what he wants to avoid.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  00:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Party Search box help
I'm confused about how the party search box works. Only confused as to who joins who's team as sometimes I'm suddenly the head of a team and other times it's someone else. When you click on a persons name in the Party Search box and select "join" does that mean you're inviting them to your team, or you're joining their team. At first I figured it put them into who had the most ppl in a team was the leader, or who was the higher level but it seems to be different every time. What's the best way to work the party search function so I know whether I'm joining someone elses team or whether they are joining my party. I hope this makes sense.Khukri 12:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think no-one knows for sure. See Talk:Party. mendel 12:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am fairly sure that the person creating the party search is the designated leader. Though it may revolve around the join rule where, whoever has the larger party becomes the leader too.  I never really gave it much though myself.  I am pretty sure though 1 on 1, every time I've clicked join on someones party invite, they have been the leader.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]]   I~sk8   (T/C) 12:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoever's party is larger will become the leader, I've never seen a different result there. For equal-sized parties, I'm not sure. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Equal Sized parties: Whoever invited becomes party leader. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 19:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When you're using the box yeah. For party search, who is counted as the one who invited? I think it's the one who posted the message, but I'd have to check. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The Join button works like the invite button on the PArty Menu afaik. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 19:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Join button on the party search window does not work like the join (+ -- the plus sign button) on the Party Formation window. If you invite someone to your party via the + button they will be in your party and you're the leader, with party formation window it's anybody's guess who joins who. Khukri 13:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

account name change
Can some one please help me with changing my name because when i did it and when i got the email it says something to do with expiried. And it tells me to re do it but when i do that again it says that name is in use already. PLease can someone help??? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryanvt (contribs).
 * I am slightly confused which account and which name you refer to. Obviously you were able to log in to Guildwiki with the Ryanvt account. Have you attempted to change a character or account name for the Guild Wars game? I didn't think that was possible. Who sent the email? If you copy the email here, we can read what it says and maybe help you better. (xxx out any email addresses and passwords, though.) mendel 15:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the account name (and at the same time, the e-mail) of your Guild Wars account, you can change it via www.plaync.com (though they have maintenance right now). &mdash; Poki#3 [[Image:Poki.jpg|19px|My Talk Page :o]], 15:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

What level is my character?
Is there any way to tell how many times you've flipped over the level 20 counter? As I've noticed some people state their level as lvl 20(+8), how do they know how many times they've flipped the counter? Or are they just keeping a mental note. Do your skill points help in calculating that? I'm an assassin and have 65 skill points out of a total of 77.Khukri 12:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Experience. Look around, there should be a formula to calculate your approximate level. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage 12:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can't find your level on the page Viper mentioned, you can get your XP from your H panel, subtract 182,600, divide by 15,000, and add 23. In other words, level = 23 + ((x - 182,600) / 15000 ). Round down. mendel 12:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ok I did some calculations, but it doesn't sound right. My hero panel says I have 557,437 xp ( so minus 182,600 divide by 15,000 gives me 24) and add 23 to that and that makes 47. Could that be right? Level 47? Sounds like a lot for a character that's only been around just over a month. What's the sort of xp amount that long time players get up to? And does this extra xp make you any stronger? Khukri 16:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got a character with 6 million XP, but I've seen screenshots of ones that are over 10 million. And no, once you're level 20 and have completed your attribute point quests, you don't get any "stronger" - the only benefit to XP beyond level 20 is skill points.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's just it: a character with more well-chosen skills to equip is potentially able to adapt better to a given situation. You could call that strength. Then there are the Skill Hunter title tracks.... mendel 21:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Separating multiple items in inventory.
Hi, I've got a few items in bulk together (birthday cakes, poppers, lucky clovers, etc) and I'd like to be able to separate them so I can just take one or two out with me and leave the rest in my Xunlai chest. Is there any way to separate these items without having to ask a friend to hold it for me? Thanks for all the answers to my silly questions guys, it's much appreciated. Khukri 16:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you hold shift while moving the stack, you get the option to split the stack up into whichever sizes you want. Lord of all tyria 16:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Searching for 'boss'
When I click [Search] after entering 'boss' in the search block the 'Boss' page is not displayed, although it does appear as third in the resultant list. When I click [Go] the boss page is displayed. Why doesn't it work for [Search]?
 * Search actually searches for all pages that have boss in them, clikcing go will take you to the page by the name you entered in box if it exists.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 01:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

How can I get Seed of Life monk skill
The Wiki page says that Seed of Life can be acquired from the hero skill trainers, yet the skill itself is unusable by heros. Would they really make a skill available thru a hero skill trainer if heros cannot use that skill? How would a player character get that skill? I have gone to the hero skill trainers listed in the Wiki article, and they do not offer seed of life, not even to heros. So how do I get that skill for my player character?
 * A hero skill trainer is a bad name. In fact, they just teach YOU a skill, thus unlocking it for your heroes.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sunspear_Title -- Xeon 03:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You also need to be a Sunspear Sergeant to get the skill. Then just go to a hero skill trainer in Sunspear Great Hall and ask for Sunspear skills.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  03:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)