User talk:Seph Valentine

Also known as jzf. -  jzf.  02:01, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

Virtual Sociology and Identities within Cyberspace
I still don't understand... why do you have two accounts? Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 02:01, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

Moving. I decided that capital J really was getting up my nose. I don't suppose you know how to tag an image to a sig? - jzf 02:03, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

Change you raw signature on preferences. For example, one could be Seph Valentine 

Also, contact an Admin and tell them you decided you wanted a different name because I don't think you are allowed to have two active accounts. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 02:07, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

You definitely can't edit a page with this name but sign with jzf. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 02:08, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

Leave a message on User:Gares Redstorm's talk page. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 02:08, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

My idea this morning was to get User:Jzf deleted. Is there only the one (extremely busy) fella that does that stuff? - jzf.  02:19, 31 March 2007 (CDT)
 * What you do is this, you talk to any admin, I just mentioned Gares because I think he is on, and have them infinite ban your jzf account. Defiant Elements  (talk ~ contribs) 02:21, 31 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Cool, I posted him a note. I'm sorry I'm causing you so much hassle this weekend. - jzf.  [[Image:Ranger-icon-small.png]] 02:29, 31 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Please also read GW:SIGN. Your sig must make clear what your user name is, so you must have 'Seph Valentine' visible, not jzf. --[[Image:Gem-icon-sm.png]] (talk) 04:20, 31 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Oh, I was looking for something like that last night! "signature" in the search engine comes up blank. I'm suprised that you don't appreciate the point though.  The small pink gem links to Gares' Userpage, the same way jzf links to Seph Valentine. Through repeated use, the small pink gem has become your identity.  Which reinforces the theory that identities are a social construct.  Since 'jzf' and 'Seph Valentine' are both the same person (one being an internet identity, the other being an in game character) with the same IP address (unless I'm posting from my phone) there really is nothing to be gained though deception, just a few years worth of social capital being lost.

It could be argued that I would not be recognised as Jzf. Wiki doesn't recognise lowercase usernames. Once upon a time my good name was saved because someone pointed out that the original poster used uppercase JZF rather than lowercase jzf.


 * "User signatures must have a link to their user page or their user talk page." I think that's the most important rule, and one that I have taken steps to make sure I abide by.
 * "Signature must show their user name or by other means make clear the user name" I'm using other means to clarify my identity.
 * "The icon's image file should be exclusive for the signature, not shared with anything in GuildWiki" personally I thought that [[Image:Ranger-icon-small.png]] and [[Image:Monk-icon-small.png]] was an accepted form of showing your point of view. (at least in theory, long term Monk players see a different view point from long term Ranger players, right?)

In closing, user names are there to identify posters. What you are suggesting would be a case of "the Tail wagging the Dog". The rules are there for a reason. But reason always overrides rules (as in the case of how Law cab be changed by Court rather than by Parliment), which is why interpretation decides what goes on in a house of Law, rather than 'tick boxes' and automatic sentences.

I am not here to cause havoc. -  jzf.  11:31, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

NOTICE
Please read GW:SIGN. Per policy, your sig must match to your user account. By signing as "jzf", you are violating site policy. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 11:56, 31 March 2007 (CDT)


 * If you take the time to read what is going on, you can see that I am quoting the policy that you are assuming I haven't read. -  jzf.  [[Image:Ranger-icon-small.png]] 12:07, 31 March 2007 (CDT)