Talk:Shock

Whirlwind?
I want to ask, why do most builds use Shock instead of Whirlwind? Both the skills are mostly used for the knockdown and not the damage, which narrows down the difference to:
 * Shock cost's 5 less Energy
 * Shock causes Exhaustion
 * Whirlwind is AoE
 * Whirlwind only knockdown attacking foes.

The 5 more energy may be something, but I think that the Exhaustion is worse when it comes to secondary Eles. Is the "attacking" requirement of Whirlwind THAT bad (mostly PvE player xD)? &mdash; Poki#3 16:57, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * shock is a guarenteed knockdown to the target you want. whirlwind is a knockdown to any target that is attacking you, which may not be the target you want. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 17:08, 25 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Also, ele secondaries like W/E tend to chase their victims who are kiting/running, not attacking, so whirlwind wouldn't work so well there. Plus, if their target is kiting, the moment you stop to cast whirlwind, the target can move out of range. If you stop to cast Shock, it will hit and they will be knocked down, if a few meters away. --Vortexsam 17:12, 25 July 2006 (CDT)


 * If whirlwind and not shock, why whirlwind and not bull's strike? &mdash; Skuld 17:33, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * same reason shock and not whirlwind, it doesn't knock down foes unless they're fleeing, which may not be the target you want. --Honorable Sarah [[image:Honorable_Icon.gif]] 17:35, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * My point to the OP &mdash; Skuld 17:38, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
 * However, if you look at PvP most often everyone in the match is constantly moving, making skills like Bull's Strike, Bull's Charge, "None Shall Pass!" and even "Coward!" fabulous alternatives.

Related skills
Shock is special for the instand KD, if anything, I think Gale should be related not stuff like whirlwind, and lightning surge. Don't understand the war skills either. Gale warriors were used before the nerf, and I think the similarity should be noted.Silk Weaker 08:18, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Cut down, before we used to have 20-skill long lists on every KD skill page, not as bad as some &mdash; Skuld 08:20, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Should there be some comment/user note on the shock war build? -Thomas 04:26, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

Isn't Shove close enough related, same mana, activation, KD, and similar damage. Couldn't the idea of Shove possibly come from Shock warriors too?--Relyk 17:45, 25 February 2007 (CST)

Possible Bug?
Can someone else please check in-game if Shock is costing them 10 energy instead of 5? i'm noticing it with a w/e shock tank; he will have 25 energy, use shock once on one target, and have 15 left, with 10 exhaustion. 216.232.7.242 00:17, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
 * [15---][--5--]
 * [---10---][--10--]
 * Use 5e skill, get 10e worth of exhaustion greyed out &mdash; Skuld 01:31, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
 * The best test for the cost is to use Shock when your current energy is below 10 but your max energy is normal. If Shock activates, then it is not 10. --Ufelder 01:37, 14 October 2006 (CDT)

It costs 5 energy in that you can still cast it with only 5, but it will deduct 10 from your energy bar because of exhaustion. --209.152.59.117 16:41, 13 February 2007 (CST) This is written by Eetaq, btw.