Talk:Effective ranger guide

"Energy Hoarder"
Complete BS. Is this not the effective ranger guide? (T/C) 07:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that part is rather horrible... Having a zealous bow doesn't make you a new ranger. ANY weapons using energy attacks benefits from having a zealous weapon and an IAS. Didn't you remove that from the article anyway? The person who reverted it should give us a good enough reason why it should stay there. Silver Sunlight [[Image:SSunlight.jpg|19px]] 07:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fortunately it was removed again. I was scratching my head about that. --BeeD 10:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, after much hating on the part of everybody else, I conceded and removed it. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Revan The Retarded (contribs) 10:59, September 17, 2008.
 * There seems to be a RV war going on on this section, Added, Removed, Added and Removed now. Himm Taeguk  (T/C) 12:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that IP was the person who originally uploaded it. --Macros 12:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I try to hate on the content, not the poster. My issue is that it's things like that which made/continue to make so many players into bad players. We ought to try to give good advice in these guides, and that wasn't it unfortunately. Also, unlike the crappy Effective monk guide, there are pretty straightforward and clear-cut ways that a Ranger should be played...the article mostly completely lists those types. Yes, there are niche builds and strange things which you may want to run, but they are only effective in a few circumstances and/or are generally outclassed by other ways. For example, in most normal cases I would take Prepared Shot or Body Shot or Scavenger's Strike or Expert Focus for Energy management, if I needed it. Unless I was in a build which spammed bow attacks nonstop - which would look like this:


 * ...the addition of a Zealous bow is rather trivial to most other build. This kind of build requires very high Expertise and a Zealous bow. However it's also a pretty bad build.
 * Greater Conflagration is useful in only a few very specialized builds, such as an Eskimos team. But then you have to combine it with Winter + Mantra of Frost / Ward Against Harm. Also a fragile build. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Glass Arrows Spiker?
I've been seeing this build a lot lately, anyone else?

Using those main skills and a ton of other things that just add to damage and increase in speed to put DPS on the table? --Hel llb rin ger 22:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a build I and many others thought up long time ago, with Asura Scan thrown in. Nothing new. Some variants are Conjures and Triple Shot etc. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)