GuildWiki talk:Requests for adminship/RoseOfKali (2)

Now is not a good time to start this imo, as it is uncertain when she'll return. If she does though, she'll get my full support (tbh, I was kinda surprised she wasn't a sysop yet, I always seemed to think she was).--El_Nazgir 20:28, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * My thinking was that she could accept or decline the nomination upon return; this way we can get a head start on rationale and the like. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey guys, I jumped online at another person's house and decided to see how things are going on the wiki. I was surprised to see the notice, and I feel flattered, as this is the second time I've been nominated.  The first time the idea was abandoned as most people, including myself, didn't really see enough need for my promotion.  I'm posting here, since there is a notice about my absence on the main page, and I'm still working on getting internet at my house in Ukraine.  I should have it either by the end of the current week or sometime next week, as my phone line is extremely old and unfit for internet connection, so we're working on getting things up to date.  I will accept this request for adminship once I'm able to post regularly again, if you guys still think that it will benefit the wiki, but for now let's leave it how it is.  Feel free to "discuss me behind my back" as it will not offend me at all, I'm curious to hear what people think.  I know I've gotten into some heated debates in the past, but if I become an admin, I will certainly be more careful, as I will be in a position of authority.  As you may know, it was not because of something personal, but because I was trying to get my point across or expecting to be reasonably convinced otherwise.  We're all human and make mistakes, I try to learn from them and do things better next time.  I will reply to any further comments once I can post from home, and we'll figure things out from there.  For now, I miss you guys and I hope I can get back online soon.  RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 13:58, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, no new discussion happened since I posted the above, but I am posting from home, FINALLY, so I will be available from now on. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 08:23, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * For some reason I didn't have this page on my watchlist D:
 * I don't have any issues with Rose, and would not object to a promotion. We have other, ah, "tenacious" sysops which have done just fine. Being able to take care of the deletion of armor images would be nice; in addition, Rose knows how things work around here and I have confidence in her ability to both battle vandalism (whatever little bit of that we still get) and just generally help out. Finally, it's always good to have sysops covering different timezones; while the USA and UK are covered, Europe isn't quite so much, and Herr Mendel keeps strange hours in any case. ;) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 08:42, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess the last thing I would need to clarify is exactly what duties I will get with this and what's generally expected. Let me know what is needed of me, and I will accept this position gladly.  But for now, I think I will go satisfy my 3-week long GW withdrawals. :P Just in time for some grog! :) RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 09:14, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Prospective admin can't find GW:ADMIN, so noted. ;-) -- ◄mendel► 10:13, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Blame it on severe internet deprivation and withdrawal symptoms. :P Oh, and holy crap my feet are killing me... I have to walk everywhere. :( RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 10:38, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Next steps?
What are the next steps in progressing the RFA? How can I help? &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 18:41, October 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe I can be more clear: I strongly support this RFA. I think RoK is a passionate defender and supporter of this wiki, trusts-but-verifies appropriately, and I am certain that she will use her powers to support the forces of Niceness and Good against those of Badness and Evil. Like any admin, I hope that RoK will carefully notice when she's acting in her sysop capacity vs. her capacity as a mere mortal contributor, especially during conflicts when she does not share the views of others.


 * Despite the obliquely referenced items under Opposing..., I have confidence that Rose will be able to sort through any such situations; she has shown that her passion for the good of the wiki is stronger than any particular opinion she might have on an individual issue.  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 17:37, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Opposing factors
I would like to ask Warwick to please define "drama magnet" and elaborate about the conflicts. RoseOfKali 18:58, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Both of them are views mendel expressed to me previously, but I had noted were not there. So, I added them. I'd ask mendel to elaborate, not I. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 20:24, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * something something kanji on necro scar pattern something, other than that I'd have to dig. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 09:06, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Failure to identify a purposely bolded letter is a sign of vision loss. :P RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 09:43, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Couple of conflicts with Darksyde Never Again and AFK When Needed, neither of whom are the easiest people to get along with. Nothing recent. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 21:43, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, @Warwick: if you can't support your opinions, don't bother voicing them. Someone else will do so, but much better. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 16:05, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * You're stirring the pot yourself. Jennalee 16:15, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm a professional. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 16:23, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

intermediate mind dump
No, I haven't decided.

Rose of Kali is a loyal, diligent editor who has contributed much to this wiki. Admin or not, GuildWiki will always be in her debt. We all recognize that the armor gallery is a distinguishing feature of GuildWiki, and its current excellent state is owed to no small extent to the effort Rose Of Kali has put into it, both adding to it herself, and in guiding others to achieve the high standards she herself set.

As we have added the ability to move/rename images to the rollback group, housekeeping the gallery has already become somewhat easier for her.

I have no doubt that Rose could recognise and ban vandals easily. She knows a lot about Guild Wars. Her technical Wiki skills are ok, but not great. 

However, I don't have faith in her ability to encourage new users and projects, and resolve conflicts. Some links:
 * the biggest recent drama, about a single line in an article about a Necromancer scar pattern, in February, has her talking in caps
 * In April, she denounces the Zaishen Quest totals as "too much work" (we still have them, and they helped find a problem with Coin values that weren't updated):
 * reverts are very sensitive with me, because they the easiest way to discourage and enrage people, and when she reverted a simple sandbox edit, I bluntly stated my opinion (plus the previous issue rolled into this)

I will admit that since that last occasion, I haven't noticed anything but exemplary conduct from Rose Of Kali. (But then I don't notice much). If that is a sign that she has improved, and if she would keep her hands off the admin tools in any conflict where she is personally involved (good advice for any admin), then I might be willing to promote her if the need arose. -- ◄mendel► 22:18, October 6, 2009 (UTC)