User talk:Zerris17087

 Archives:  March 27, 2007

Mo/D 55 Monk Gold Farmer
Urgh, I already moved it to Build:Mo/D Bergen Hot Springs Farmer :S (T/C) 20:52, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
 * It's like an edit conflict, but worse >_> --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   20:53, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

Archive
Woo, my first archive! --   21:00, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

Discussion
Well, go ahead. Discuss something! - Zerris

May me use thy Attribute Spending link, because your's did inspire me? Readem 20:28, 27 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Feel free... you can use any of those links. They're all quite useful, and insanely hard to find.  Also, Special:Specialpages is a useful one. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    21:07, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

My sig pic for Nog64
Just a little hint, I edited his picture in Paint Shop Pro 6.1. It is quite a good program to use. It isn't as complicated as Photoshop, but works better than Paint. Unfortunately, version 8.0 onwards is very confusing with drop-down tool selection menus. &mdash; Ebany Salmonderiel (Talk) [ Leave a note] 13:26, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
 * I'll take a look, thanks. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   15:08, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

Glyph of Elemental Power
Missed that one, Good catch. Thanks,--JP 15:01, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
 * No problem. You might wanna see if there are any more, that was the only one I knew of the top of my head. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    15:08, 28 March 2007 (CDT)

Userboxes
Your credits page better have me on it for stealing my "Doesn't sign his contributions but aspires to be a wiki admin" box! Lol.Cheese Slaya 19:04, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Done:

--   20:00, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

As an even earlier designer of the "Doesn't sign their comments" userbox I feel I should get credit as well! Just kidding of course :) (T/C) 20:04, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

Really? I never saw it :PCheese Slaya 20:08, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Check the edit history on my page, and you might know *why* you never saw it. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   20:09, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

User:Defiant Elements/Build Collaboration
Spread the word. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 20:39, 30 March 2007 (CDT) Quick blunt version. May make a better one later. --   20:54, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

Well... I see that you added my template. It is short and to the point, but it gets the message across. If you want to make a different one, feel free to do so. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 23:57, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

What we do need is a way to advertise this to new users who are the ones unlikely to find the advertising on user pages and the ones most likely to post new builds. Maybe I can talk to an Admin about getting an official link posted somewhere on the wiki. Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 00:01, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

Any...
ideas? InfestedHydralisk  10:37, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Infuriating Heat needs some major protection if you're gonna make it the backbone of a build. You need to:
 * Stop Interrupts. Otherwise, even the Ghostly Hero could mess you up.
 * Keep yourself alive. With the major spirit, you're likely to be a common spike target.
 * Keep the spirit alive. Since this is pretty much impossible, do the next best thing: Recast it often.
 * You can take a look at my build here to see how I solved those problems. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   12:24, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I'v been thinking of swapping the rit's Pain for Draw Spirit to move it out dangerous places, good idea? InfestedHydralisk  [[image:Shadow_Prison.jpg|19px]] 17:40, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Might help a little, but it's still gonna be one heck of a blazing red spike target. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   17:43, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

32 Words Userbox
Since when was I, and not D.E., the some users in your userbox??? I've learned with you to ALWAYS hover over links.Cheese Slaya 19:22, 2 April 2007 (CDT)


 * I changed it a month or so back. And you haven't learned enough... on your poll, every time it says your name, it links to my userpage instead.  Mwahaha!  Also, check the comments next to "Favored". --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    19:35, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Skill Modifiers thing
I'm going to bed soon, so you can flesh that out if you want to. I'm planning on putting that on the mainspace by the end of the week. Thanks in advance for any help.--Nog64Talk 23:03, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You're slow... I was already editing the page before I even got this note. Instead of doing yours for you, though, I think I'll add my own pre- and suf- ixes. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:05, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Build: Team - 1337ness
Look at this... if you try it out you actually have 1,337 health... making you're uber leetnees even 1337er. I'll provide a pic as soon as I figure out how to upload images lol :D&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 23:40, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

Image titling
Zerris, your image, is too generically titled. If you could re-upload that image with a more descriptive name, by following the directions for image naming [|here], it would be much appreciated. --User:Albinobird 23:48, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
 * lol he didnt upload them *points* Albinobird ia s fool! [[Image:Wingsthatheal-icon.jpg]] "Wings" 23:54, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Since I no longer have a need for either one as you can see from the links to them (and the contest has already been decided) they may be deleted. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:55, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Oops, just noticed that while they link to his page, they are not his. Sorry about that, Zerris. --User:Albinobird[[Image:Albinobirdsigicon.JPG|Albinobird]] 18:05, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Suits you
&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 22:14, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Domain of Anguish
I just beat Foundry for the very first time. I did it after 7 hours, with most people at 60 DP and half asleep, on a combined Gloom --> Foundry run. Some of the people didn't even speak English and couldn't understand each other. I got 2 Torment Gems, 2 Titan Gems, and an Armor Remnant. I also beat the last area I needed for Mallyx the Unyielding. And it's 12:30 in the Morning. I'm happy. REALLY Happy. So...

'''       YAY! :)       '''


 * --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   00:31, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Beat monkey now. gogo! - Skakid9090 21:16, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I've now killed him twice, as you can see on my user page (once monk, once elem).  The second time got me the last Titan Gemstone my elementalist needed for her Tormented Fire Staff, so I got my Ambrace from Mallyx himself. :) --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    21:25, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You should get in on some speed runs, find the good players, play with them often, ect... you can bring that 7 hours down to 2 and a half xD - Skakid9090 21:33, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * We had a nuker AFK for 50% of the mission. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    21:35, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, can't stand that kinda stuff. Our NT monk went afk for 45 minutes right before the 4th room. - Skakid9090 21:37, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Contest

 * Creativity:6
 * Viability: 10
 * Presence: 7
 * Unusibility of Skill: 8
 * Favored:+13
 * Total: 44/40

Reasoning:


 * Creativity:Build:W/Me UW Solo. Changed enough, but not a completely new build.
 * Viability: Favored+Pictures. 'Nuff said.
 * Presence: Used to build energy and thus rather important, but not the life's blood of the build. Disabling of either attacks or mass enchantment stripping would hurt you more than disabling WE.
 * Skill: Personally, I think this skill is rather terrible due to its limited scope and eng gain. Good job on using it well.

Top of the line favored for this.--Nog64Talk 19:01, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
 * How did the scoring on being favored go? I'm looking at the votes, but I don't see 13 anywhere. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   19:06, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
 * +10 for being favored, +1 for each vote. So, basically, any favored build is +13.--Nog64Talk [[Image:Yaaaay.png|19px]] 19:07, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I don't get +6 for the other 6 votes? Awww... --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    19:08, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
 * It was only +3 when I went to rate it. I pretty much threw that system out the window after about a day.--Nog64Talk [[Image:Yaaaay.png|19px]] 19:09, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Then I guess it's time to sit back and see how the voting goes. After all... Gotta get that cash back. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    19:14, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

I love this template:)&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 13:13, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

That 3k
I keep trying to message you in game, but you don't respond. I need that 3k cus I gotta pay people for my contest! My character list is on my page, you can add me to your friends list if you're afraid of someone else claiming the money.--Nog64Talk 20:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Perhaps I was playing the other account? I often play both at once, while only paying attention to one.  Try poking me right now, I'm on. :p --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    21:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
 * How in Lord's name do you...?--Nog64Talk [[Image:Yaaaay.png|19px]] 22:00, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
 * On one of them I join a partially made Domain of Anguish group or a Heroes' Ascent PuG (That would normally be my American Account). On my other account, I join FoW or UW solo with my warrior and farm some (Either with that build I designed for your contest, or with a general Spider Cave farmer).  Then whilke the group is setting up in DoA or HA, I farm a little.  Since I'm solo, I can just find a safety spot, go afk, then come back later.  Also, I use wiki on this computer while playing Guild Wars on the other one.  It works out.  Anyway, I'm on now... wanna come on yourself? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:05, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Ehh, offline now. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   22:30, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Contest again
This is the third time I've messaged you in a row....

Anyway, Congrats, you've came in third place! Secret prize will come soon.--Nog64Talk 17:00, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Woot! And yes, I'm reading my watchlist.  >_> --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    17:00, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Congratulations
You are one of five finalists in my build competition. Similiar to Nog's contest, users will vote on which they think the best of the five builds is, but I will still be the final arbiter. Good Luck! *Defiant Elements*  +talk  19:56, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yay. Not surprised my build made finals (I was hoping to win both contests, but alas... :p) but how did my Damageless Killer make Honorable?  Does it even work?  (Side note for full disclosure:  I never even tested that Me/Mo build, for all I knew it could have been utterly broken.) --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:55, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * It does. I tried it out as well as an N/Mo variant.  Both work.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  22:55, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh. Maybe I'll have to try them myself some time. *laughs* --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    22:57, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You can also solo farm Aataxes with a variant :) as I discovered to my delight. That variant I am keeping to myself though.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  22:58, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Not surprised. Only reason I couldn't was because I could only do 600 dmg in degen and Aatxes have 1,150 health-ish.  Since I doubt you managed to double the damage, I'm guessing you found a better way to chain Amity? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:01, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yup. Works very well.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:02, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, if you max Protection Prayers, you can use 50% Recharge (the cap) to get nearly constant Amity. Quickening Zephyr comes to mind as the only non-elite skill that can halve recharge time.  Serpent's Quickness comes to mind as a close second.  My only question is, if you went Mo/R...  How would you kill?  Rangers only do degen when it's attatched to damage, unless I'm missing something. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:06, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * And if you're not reducing Recharge, there are only 2 posibilities; Echo the skill or increase its duration. Since There are no skills which increase the duration of non-illusion based hexes, it would have to be echoing, and the only echo skill available to you solo is the one I used in my build.  Which brings me back to square 1.  What am I overlooking? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:10, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Or the last option, namely to duplicate the skill in another manner. In this case, you could bring Pacifism.  But since it's single target, and Aatxes come in groups of 2 or 3, I fail to see the use. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:13, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, my method doesn't work perfectly, it doesn't actually deal directly with Amity, it just gives you a little extra time, time enough to kill aataxes. Works a reasonably high percentage of the time, and, it is solo mesmer farming aataxes in an unconventional fashion which means it deserves honorable mention.  Another interesting idea would be to use Soothing Images.... hmmm... well, that means they could then use one skill, now, how can I block it... *goes off to think about best ways to do so.*  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:16, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Nah... Soothing wouldn't work. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:17, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Glad to see I'm not crazy yet. I didn't think there was a better Amity Based build for this purpose. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:19, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

(reset Indent) Oh, and do I get to see my score for this contest too? --   23:20, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * No, my idea still works, I have playtested it. Now though, I am thinking of trying a solo Mesmer farmer using Signet of Midnight + Epidemic to farm small groups of Aataxes.  But what is the best way to deal damage...?  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:22, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * instantly pops to mind... --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   23:23, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, but if you can kill with spells, you can probably do more damage. I was thinking E/Me with SoM and Epidemic (both unlinked) and using Ele AoE.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:24, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm sure Ele AoE is fun and all, but you'll never have enough energy to take out an Aatxe. They have insanely high armor, and as previously mentioned, a lotta health.  Elementalists are not built for Endurance. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:27, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Oh, yeah, and your build got around an 80%  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:25, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm surprised I even got 10 out of 30 on "Original" for an IWAY build. Just out of curiosity...  What were the 33% of builds that were *less* original? --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:27, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I looked it up, your actual percentage was 72%. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:30, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * You got 72%, Skuld got 70%, InfestedHydralisk got 80%, Zaq got 83%, and Abs of Glue got 65%, so you are right in the middle. [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  23:34, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * Not too bad. We should have more of these "Make a build with restrictions" contests, they're fun. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    23:55, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Build: W/A Forceful Burden
I hate Move Conflicts.&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 23:58, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
 * I know the feeling. --[[image:rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   06:43, 11 April 2007 (CDT)