Template talk:License

As you've already changed, just use |- instead of nextrow (which I just deleted). --Fyren 14:01, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * was going to mark it after this, thanks for that. -- Xeon 14:03, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Do you need help? --Fyren 14:30, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, cant work it out, see User talk:Aratak. -- Xeon 14:31, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Tada. MW strips out whitespace at the edges of parameters.  A does nothing but means it won't strip out the newlines you were putting in.  --Fyren 14:34, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah ok, where were you 1 hour ago? lol, thanks for that. -- Xeon 14:34, 3 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I found another way but 2 min to late :(&mdash; ├ A ratak ┤  14:45, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

/doc
I rewrote the documentation, to be included with  when/if a change to the template is necessary. (The doc alone doesn't justify adding 18000 jobs to the queue, I believe.) Here it is: Template:License/doc}} --◄mendel► 22:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC) & 13:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Why does it state "Template Talk:Screenshot"? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  01:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It does that because the doc for that is included there, and it adds a category upon inclusion, and the categorytree doesn't limit itself to the Template namespace, but also works on Template talk. I'm going to comment that cat out though, so it doesn't disturb you any more. --◄mendel► 02:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

This change and the one below have been applied. --◄mendel► 13:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wanted Pages
The phrase talk page creates a Wanted Page for every licensed image. This is not a good thing. Does [ talkpage] work better? If nobody edits [ this] I gues we're going to find out. --◄mendel► 07:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

width
I removed the fixed 800-width on the table. If there is any interest in constraining the width to be no greater than 800 ever, I advocate using the "max-width" CSS property instead. If anyone wants to the width to be at least 800 pixels under every circumstance, please state your case. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 23:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You haven't actually removed it because the column width still add up to 800. Please announce changes to this template well in advance because any change to this template basically shoots our job queue. Oh, and why did you do it? -- ◄mendel► 06:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "The current job queue length is 27,885." Is that still from this edit, or have there been other large additions to the queue? -- ◄mendel► 03:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't been keeping an eye on it. But since the job queue doesn't really impact regular server performance, unless it is going up, I wouldn't worry too much about it. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 06:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * a) it impacts how quickly template (and image?) updates propagate (not at all right now, is my guess)
 * b) somebody thought it'd be ok again in a day or two, and that impression seems to have been proven wrong
 * -- ◄mendel► 10:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure the job queue is only about propagation of auto-categorization, and that it won't hold up other stuff. In this case, no category-stuff was affected, but the job queue wouldn't know that until it checks every page using the template to make sure the output of the template doesn't affect the categorization of the page.  At least, that is my impression. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 21:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Job_queue -- ◄mendel► 23:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That doesn't inform much (besides correcting my statement), since we don't know the natural lifespan of a page's HTML cache, and when combined with the fact that most image pages are rarely visited (compared to main articles), I wouldn't be surprised of 99% of the jobs in the job queue are to invalid the HTML cache of pages that aren't cached. In fact, if I were to optimize a typical MW installation, I wouldn't bother having HTML caches for the Image space at all. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Happily, you don't get to operate MW installations, because the google spider crawling those pages would kinda bring the server to a halt if it recreated the pages then. The real problem is that not only are some image pages not updated, any other template changes or other actions (such as image uploads) that get queued don't get done until the images are. Until then, users get the outdated cache versions unless they purge/refresh the page manually (I believe) or edit it. The natural lifespan of a page's HTML cache (inside MediaWiki, not in Varnish) is "until the page gets changed". -- ◄mendel► 00:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Things that affect less than 500 other pages don't get hold up in the queue, and can't I ban spiders (at least Google's) from the image namespace? -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 00:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Then someone who googles gwen screen capture guild wars won't find our screenshot. Why don't they find it now? The 500 page thing happens more often than you think, because it's recursive. -- ◄mendel► 00:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The next time somebody plans to edit this...
might as well move all the styling into Common.css. Not in a hurry to do it, but a good idea to keep in mind the next time any happens to need to edit it. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 07:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and change the edit link (see above, "Wanted Pages") to make use of  as that makes the wiki more portable. -- ◄mendel► 07:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)