Talk:Rata Sum

Think the Mursaat will attack here? With all the "perfectly safe" energy flowing? Axel

Mhenlo
Did anybody else notice Mhenlo in Rata Sum, with the majority of the female Henches doing "Pick Me!" emotes and Cynn looking jealous? This is funny... Meanwhile, Lo Sha just kind of stands there sighing... XD --Kajex Firedrake 00:58, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

Ok, is this a bug? I went throught Rata Sum, finished the campaign, now I cant find it on my map !!!

Yeah, it's cool that henches live in Outposts/Towns, not just stand there and use /bored

Trivia Section
I'm fairly sure 'rata sum' does not mean 'I have thought', bearing in mind 'sum' means 'I am' not I have. 80.42.183.74 17:51, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
 * so it means "I am thinking"(fem)?
 * Probably means I am thinking, based on the fact Asurians are genius, of course i'm not so good with latin tenses, Latin 2 i take in 3 months :(
 * I had initially thought that myself until I looked it up, but the original poster is correct. Rata sum is the perfect form of the deponent verb reor, so it really does mean 'I have thought,' or even 'I have dreamt.'  &mdash;DaveK  04:45, 7 September 2007 (GMT)
 * Ah yes perfect forms of deponents verbs heh, I'll admit it's been a while.

"Rata Sum" is also an anagram of "Sumatra", part of Indonesia. Haven't been there, but can imagine the geography is similar. Jkuyl 20:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC) Quint Essence
 * Why is the alleged bug part of trivia, and not a bug? [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Because it's trivial? Nah, someone just messed up. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Its also an anagrama of Muursat, perhaps something there...
 * It's in there already RT | Talk  08:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It has been speculated that Rata Sum, being an anagram of Mursaat, is the hidden city of the Mursaat (even though it is located somewhat far from the Ullen River). The in-game description however mentions that the city was erected by the Asura, so unless it was destroyed after the titans had been defeated (unlikely since Rata Sum wasn't attacked or even known of) I don't think this is the Mursaat city. 85.144.107.189 21:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Looking in english to latin dictionary i find rata and ratus not found and sum to mean to be... Lost-Blue 04:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, the trivia is legit: "I had initially thought that myself until I looked it up, but the original poster is correct. Rata sum is the perfect form of the deponent verb reor, so it really does mean 'I have thought,' or even 'I have dreamt.' —DaveK 04:45, 7 September 2007 (GMT)" King Neoterikos 06:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Mursaat City
I don't think this is the Mursaat city for the following reasons: -- Marin  Bloodbane  14:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1. The description says "Rata Sum was quickly and magically erected when the race arrived from their native underground homes." This in my mind implies that Rata Sum was not there before the Asura came and built it.
 * 2. While we haven't seen very much of what the Asura built, we can probably assume that they built the temple-like structure in north-western Arbor Bay and the thing with the spinning rings in Riven Earth were constructed by Asura, and they and Rata Sum all share the similar polygonal shapes and affinity for things that float or have a "jigsaw effect" that allows the shapes to be able to fit together, not to mention using what is (as far as I can tell) the same materials.
 * 3. Even if we discredit #2 by saying there's no way to be certain that the Asura did build those structures, we can know that the Mursaat did build the Jade constructs and the Onyx Gate in the Ring of Fire mission (there's no one else down there to build it for them) and nothing in Rata Sum remotely resembles their purple metallic appearance.
 * 4. Rata Sum is latin for "I am thinking", "I have thought", "I have dreamt", etc. Great. But why would Rata Sum, which translates as a phrase that clearly can be applied to the Asura, be an anagram of a word that has no alternative meaning? It's like saying "computer" is an anagram of "trecupom". Perhaps, seeing as how the Mursaat are intelligent as well (they're certainly smart enough to know how to animate jade soldiers, manipulate most of a population into thinking they are gods, and recognize allies and enemies) "Mursaat" is instead an anagram of "Rata Sum" as opposed to the other way around, meaning that since Rata Sum already has a meaning, wouldn't it make more sense to have Mursaat be the anagramed form?
 * 5. There is an extremely large area on the other side of the Ullen River. Rata Sum is by no means the only possible place for the Mursaat to hide out. If they have a shroud or whatever that keeps people from finding the city, somehow, I doubt that we could find it if we tried. My guess is, it's in the area between Riven Earth, Riverside Province, and Tangle Root. My reasons for this? There is a dark cloud on the horizons of Tangle Root, Riverside Province, and Riven Earth that all seem to point at a location directly between these three areas. Although the one in Riven Earth may just be smoke from the Destroyer hive...or maybe a shroud being removed from the Mursaat city for some reason.

Well, I'm not sure anyone can be truly right until Anet clears the speculation officially or through enough factual information added to the story. Until then anything that seems to far fetched should be considered so, as that is only speculation for the time being. :/  --68.111.234.189 00:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)