User:Mendel/Talk Archive 7

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These guys!
180px|left-- ◄mendel► 17:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

No fucking way.
I won't believe it until I hear in vent. (T/C) 09:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Believe it. I'm willing to give a vent concert, no problem. -- ◄mendel► 11:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Moar userboxes
--> Suicidal Tendencie 17:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The contrast [[Image:Glowing Gaze.jpg]] it burns my eyes!!!!!! Random Time  18:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * NSFE: Not Safe for Epileptics. RoseOfKali [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]] 18:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just wait - now he'll make a flashing one. Jink  19:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the idea :D
 * btw, he's Ishy, so are you Jinkie? --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 19:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I'm Jink. "Ishy" is short for Dr Ishmael.  Jinkie... isn't short.  Jink  20:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I prefer Kink- *ahem* Jinkie to Jink tbh, more catchie with the "ie" bit at the end :-) --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 22:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC) Not trying anything here, the K bit was a real typo I thought I'd include for the lolz
 * Sorry dude. I prefer Jink, will only answer to Jink, and I hope you'll respect that. :)  Jink  02:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've not figured out yet whether you're Japanese or good at dodging. -- ◄mendel► 02:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My secrets are only for me to know (and Ishy, but he's special). :D Jink  03:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I see that we've brought the conversation away from the userbox =/ And I'll respect whatever you want Jink, but, by your logic, Ishy can request people call him Ish. Or Ish-Ish, if he should so desire. --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 16:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, he could. Your point?  Jink  16:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ...that is all... --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 17:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Symbolic Kick (Placeholder) - Autocat with Location InfoBox
Here's the placeholder for the symbolic kick/reminder to setup some autocat with the location infobox. I'll update the title of this section if I really think you need the cymbals. &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 06:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Postcard
The first person to send me a postcard or letter (postmark counts) will get their own userbox on my page (see that for my address). There'll be a collective userbox (or better) for those who aren't first. -- ◄mendel► 11:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * New! The Add a Section link partially blocks any links on the last line (I was trying to click your username, had to click the top ~4px for it to work >.>" ) EDIT: Oddly, my contribs link is working... --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  16:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's broken anyway because for me, it is smack dab in the middle of the banner ad. Sigh. I hate Wikia. -- ◄mendel► 17:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Your comment vs. my virgin talk page
Hi! Thank you for going out of your way to comment on my feeble attempt to create a QR. x]

Basically the current Assassin attack chain quick reference is a bit of a disjointed mess and formatted completely differently from every other QR. I wanted to improve and standardize it. But, the more I think about it, the more I realize how difficult it is to create a truly usable QR for Sass chains (for reasons I'll resist detailing). So, I'm simmering on the concept before I try to bug someone into making it for me.

While we're on the general topic... why does GuildWiki structure its sortable QR tables (example) with Cost, Activation, and Recharge all lumped under one "Stats" category? It seems more intuitive to be able to sort by, for example, Energy cost. In fact... GuildWiki's skill lists are kinda sort-unfriendly in general. Is that a deliberate decision?

Actually... the more I think about stuff like this, the more ideas I get, which leads to more questions, which means... I usually should stop right about now. x] Take care! -- AudreyChandler 07:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Afraid of brainstorming? I consider that a good thing! -- ◄mendel► 08:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Archiving
Greetings, my friend. If I may call you that and consider you as such. I was wondering if you archive merely in accordance with the size of the talkpage in question, or if the coding is taken into consideration when pondering such a notion. You are almost relentlessly helpful and wise, as well as managing to know and understand the policies better than the people who wrote them. If you have the time and would ponder the notion I am pondering, I would be most grateful. Thank you in advance for reading this, John. --> Suicidal Tendencie 18:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * When it gets hard to edit or hard to read. And yes, code size is a criterium. And everything is quite subjective. You get a cookie for grovelling the proper way. Have you used the Internet Oracle at some time in the past? -- ◄mendel► who may or may not know how to ZOT 18:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Cookie? I see no cookie... do you mean Wikia left one on my P.C.?
 * Tragically the remainder of your doubtlessly insightful writings were beyond the grasp of my most humble intelligence or lack their of, as the case may be --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 18:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I am curious
why it is not a copyright violation for us to have pictures like the piplup on Optime Doom's talk, when gww, gw2w, and even pvx (who is also CC) aren't --  Shadowcrest  19:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it's a bunch of 1s and 0s, it merely resembles Piplup, proving that it is indeed Piplup and in anyway violates copyright would not be the easiest task
 * And orly? PvXWiki is where I originally encountered it. --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 19:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It indeed resembles Piplup, and that's all there is needed for it to be a copyvio. When you draw a Piplup in Paint, but alter the colors to red/orange/purple, it's still a Piplup.. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs)  &emsp;(talk)  19:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I believed that it would be required to prove that something is something, for a court to sanction it, or whatever the procedure is.
 * This is largely based on the idea innocent until proven guilty and guesswork
 * If I was incorrect, I apologize --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 19:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's intellectual property. Nintendo could sue at any time- iirc, the gist of what they told PvX (yes, someone from PvX asked Nintendo) was "We're probably not going to sue, but we can still sue whenever we want." --  Shadowcrest  19:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I herd it was more like "we technically could sue if we wanted to, but frankly we don't /care so you may as well go ahead" [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If they weren't going to sue why'd you remove it from gw2w? I thought we were always aware there was like a .01% chance of ever being sued for anything, but we deleted copyvios anyway. --  Shadowcrest  23:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No one's going to sue over copyvios on gww, gw2w, pvx, or gwiki (99.9999%) but we delete them to give some semblace of caring about copyright law. It's the only responsible and moral thing to do. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 00:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ...then why is the piplup still here? --  Shadowcrest  01:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it's still under discussion (?) and I'd be getting iffy with 1RV stuff? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:28, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it is in Warwick's userspace and should be replaced/removed there. Who wants to tell her? -- ◄mendel► 03:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Would someone please just explain to me how it got there? =/ --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 10:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * She put it there. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  10:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * While we're on the subject of PokeHunts... User:Felix Omni/Piplup would also neeed to be removed, amirite ? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 11:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ty Viper --> Suicidal Tendencie [[Image:Suicidal_Tendencie_Sig.jpg]] 12:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya, I suggest 7 day copyvio warning (the one we use for images) inside noinclude tags, and a note on the talkpage, but I don't want to do it (for personal reasons). -- ◄mendel► 14:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and there are also some Mudkips floating around. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 08:28, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You're an admin, do your duty! ;-) -- ◄mendel► 11:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That was a subtle hint that I don't remember where they are and was wondering if maybe you did, or else I'd already be on it. Felix also informs me that he wants to do some more research into copyright laws before we launch a full-scale PokeHunt (or delete anything, rather). [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 02:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've only ever seen the handdrawn copyright-safe mudkips. Felix's got 7 days, and if that's not enough, he can always undelete later. -- ◄mendel► 02:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments
Would be imprudent to place in public place. Contact me next time we're both on IRC. Short summary: I don't agree with or understand your position (who'da thunk it?). (T/C) 04:34, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * :-( -- ◄mendel► 09:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * On further consideration, since there's really an absolutely massive amount of stuff to respond to (without performing very liberal, juducious concicementizing), would you prefer I just e-mail you instead? That would also let me send it to you when the sun is up. (that's right, I'd risk getting tanned just for you!) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 11:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, since for some reason you're not on irc now, that would certainly be an option. Remember I am the user who has Wikimail me? high up on his userpage? ;-) -- ◄mendel► 11:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not on IRC because I had full intentions to go to bed hours ago, but got distracted by more wiki stuff. Why would I use emailuser function if I already have your normal email? So I can use wiki formatting? :\ [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 12:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I just mentioned that to indicate that I don't mind getting emailed. :-P -- ◄mendel► 12:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)