Talk:Eviscerate

In my Opinion, Eviscerate is better than Cleave because not only does it do 1.5x the damage of Cleave, as you can read in the description, it causes a deep wound. It does all this for less than twice the adrenaline so that is my reasoning for why Eviscerate is better than Cleave. (If you still think 7 adren is too much you can always use "To the Limit!" and get some adrenaline that way.)  Renegade of Funk 23:57, 24 February 2006 (CST)


 * Bah, now it's 200 adren points. Owies.  69.124.143.230 14:46, 3 March 2006 (CST)

Dude, the rate at which you can spam Cleave totally makes up for the lack of damage compared to eviscerate
 * No deep wound, though. You would need to throw in another skill to cause deep wound or go without it.  But you could deal the damage from eviscerate + 90 max health loss caused from deep wound (450 (average health) * .20). Especially useful when the enemy is being pummeled with attacks or being 'spiked' with damage. | Chuiu 13:39, 22 March 2006 (CST)
 * You can't spike with Cleave in the same way you can with Eviscerate.--Spawn 01:29, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Exactly. As long as people want to kill a target as rapidly as possible, they will use Eviscerate over Cleave (barring mechanics changes).
 * Since Eviscerate is nerfed now doing "only" +33 damage at 16 Axe Mastery compared to Cleave which does +31 damage costing only 4 adrenaline, Cleave is the better choice now imho. - Aragorn ii 07:35, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm so glad Eviscerate was nerfed again. Now maybe PVP warriors will actually start using other elites. 70.132.28.72 02:40, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
 * But even with the reduced damage, Evis still causes deep wound, which people still want because it's STILL better for spikes. Sure, at 16 axe mastery Cleave hits for 31 for only 4 adrenaline, but keep in mind, on that first hit with Evis, it hits for +33 then ANOTHER ~90 or so cause of the deep wound...and that's in one hit. That still comes out to more damage than Cleave does, even with the higher cost. I'm just not sure people are going to replace Evis with Cleave, and then ALSO have to replace something else to work Dismember in. Even with Cleave's higher spammability, it doesn't provide the deep wound, and since that is desired by nearly every axe warrior out there, you can't just swap Cleave in for Evis and get lower cost equal damage skill, as you have to change something else as well if you want to get deep wound. I could be wrong, but ultimately, I fear even with the damage reduction, Evis will still be the more widely used elite, simply because it adds damage AND provides the deep wound, making it a better spike skill.

With cleave you must hit twice with 2 seperate skills to get a deep wound, that is not good for spiking... the nerf was an insignificant one &mdash; Skuld 06:37, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

correct dmg
the note says that the attribute level should be 1..12 but anet uses 1..15