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Onwan, Lord of the Ntouka Trouble
I'm probably just an incridable newb, but I'm having trouble killing this guy. I put on shadow form, but he uses chilling victory (I think) and it hits! Chilling Victory is an attack skill, and I don't understand how it can work if I have shadow form. Is this an A-Net modification or am I just really really dumb? Jordan
 * i think its the skills cold damage that hits, also skills like heart of holy flame are adjedent(poor spelling soz) area of effect so they can hit u also. never tested it tho oris rhy 06:01, 5 January 2007 (CST)

Actually, since Chilling Victory is a scythe skill it is AoE (which was part of heated debate a while back) and, as you know, AoE gets through Shadow Form. However, I think you got the wrong boss if Onwan is using chilling victory, Onwan is a warrior boss. Are you sure you're not confusing him for deathbringer? Onwan is in Arjok Ward, Dabineh Deathbringer is in Sunward Marches. Cowboysoultaker 19:38, 6 January 2007 (CST) I'm possitive it's not deathbringer. I checked the map on wiki and everything. That's why I got really confused... Hmm. I'll ckeck it out again, but I'm almost certain that was him. BTW, whether I'm right or wrong, is there any stradegy anyone would recommend for taking on bosses that use AoE skills? Thanks. Jordan
 * What's happening is the raging ntouka in the area surrounding onwan is whats getting you killed. While you need big mobs the raging ntouka will make it much harder.  try kiting a plant mob or skale mob instead.  The only option to make AoE less effective that I can think of is Feigned Neutrality. Cowboysoultaker 02:54, 7 January 2007 (CST)

I've had problems with this boss for one main reason, and that is enchant removal. The Rampaging Ntouka surrounding him have intimidating aura, and if you have less health then them, your enchantments will be removed along with the ice damage from Chilling Victory. I suggest we change this boss from very easy, as I've had a much easier time on harder bosses. Match 23:00, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 * Just somthing I should add, I've found that if you attack this boss form the west, and avoid pulling the two Ntouka groups nearby, it is possible to kill him (using obsidian flame and Crystal wave...) Match 01:14, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Siska Scalewand and 3 others
I think these 4 should be added to the list 3 are in yatendi canyons and are about very easy/easy/medium Makdeh The Aggravating medium/hard but you MUST take out the healer first and once healer is dead aggro tain the corrupters group. Tain the Corrupter he is about very easy/easy run isnt that long or hard dont need to kill the priest in order to kill him. Hajok Earthguardian very easy just aggro nearby margonite group on the bridge.

The skill replacements for farming them are obsidian flame teinai's crystals and feigned neutrality.So... I guess I made 101 bosses on list.:)P.S. Can someone please add them to list cause i might mess it up. Megaman4732 20:54, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Elaboration on Korr
To me this boss does not seem farmable. Sliver is almost impossible to target korr since the stone dudes are in close and he floats in and out. Also, even if it does target, it doesn't seem like there are enough enemies in the area to do the damage needed. I'll keep trying but I need help, lol. Cowboysoultaker 19:33, 6 January 2007 (CST)
 * I'll answer my own problem here. The article says it helps to pull the mob of jin nearby but that can be bad advice since sometimes they wield scythes, which cause AoE damage.  combined with the four-legged stone elementals it will end in death.  I recommend running past korr and looping around the mountain range to lose aggro, wait a bit for shadow form to recharge, then attack with just the three of them.  If sliver runs out, then kite out and wait.  the skills should recharge fast enough for korr to have a little more then half health.  Go back in and you should be able to finish him off.  Be sure to pack obsidian flame and aftershock. Cowboysoultaker 01:03, 11 January 2007 (CST)

shadow of haste
What if you replaced dash with shadow of haste, then upon slaying the boss and taking the green, you used dark escape, returning to your starting position, makes it a lot easier than running, especially with dark escapes 0 cast time

All Kourna Bosses Confirmed (vid) + Deathbringer?
Here is a video I made showing how all 21 bosses in Kourna can be farmed, and also how the Deathbringer can be farmed (its E/A but its just the same :P)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knl3fhifYxE

Deathbringer is not in the list, however, I feel he should be. He needs to be accompanied by all Crested Ntouku Birds for it to work but it still works (also his enchant removal doesnt work if you have feigned neutrality on you). Can anyone else please try it and confirm (it is in the vid anyway for proof, second last one before nightbringer) Link To The Future 11:30, 17 January 2007 (CST)
 * Any luck with Churrta the Rock? &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:15, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Churrta the Rock is impossible due to the lack of mob around him and the fact that it looks like he runs under heavy damage. Shooting Arrows 16:11 23 January 2007 (EST)

70 Bosses
Good job to everyone who contributed, even if you were just a grammer touch up guy. You guys are resoponsible every time an A/E or E/A gets rich... you'll also be responsible when bosses become extinct from overfarming in Cantha and Elonia :D. Here's to hoping the next story will boost that count to 100+. Wyvern Afini 15:48, 22 January 2007 (CST)

I win, i got the 71st :). I added the Glimmer of Light boss, he has a nice green too. Shooting Arrows 16:10, 23 January 2007 (EST)


 * Everyone will have to thank Desires from GWOnline and GuildWarsGuru for telling everyone this build. But I got to tell you, it made MANY people rich in June/July mainly because it was one of the only builds that could solo the constructs, and farm other extremely hard bosses such as Sunreach.

Hey I found a 72nd! Xuekao, the Deceptive in Pongmei Valley, replace Dash with Obsidian Flame and aggro as many Am Fah near him and he's soloable.

Confusion with the success rate
I am sorely disappointed in trying this build. But then again I may have not done it right, but I have followed the directions carefully. My case in point was first trying to farm Bramble Everthorn. I activate shadowform then immediately death's charge to the boss. Glyph of elemental power then sliver armor(and the sliver is focused on the boss I see the damage on him), follow up with shock and aftershock. I can usually land two shock and aftershocks during the duration of shadowform but even with all that the boss does not go down. I ran away with dark escape and tried again this time with the boss at 80% hp but still no success. I cannot drop the boss no matter how perfectly I execute this. What frustrates me about this is that the guide says it is very easy->easy to farm him which I see is improbable, unless there has been an update and the mob surrounding Bramble Everthorn has diminished. Any feedback?
 * It's a very easy to use build. There's a video that shows how you can farm. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 02:15, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * Sure its easy... if you have the perfect aggro-hoarde of doom (which generally isn't the case). It claimed The Pain Eater was a good one to practice on, but if thats easy then I hate to think what hard would be. I've killed him around 3 or 4 times amongst an absolutely VAST number of attempts, most of which involve my dying while trying to get surrounding groups to actually join in... and many of which actually involve Sliver Armor running out just before the gimp died... Its hell. Absolute hell. ~ SotiCoto (28/01/2007)

Do some of the boss difficulty rating come from the E/A form of the build? some of the very easy -> easy bosses are VERY difficult imo. i can see how many of these bosses can become very easy with the increased dmg from having 16 earth, but at 12 earth i cant see how the rating is very easy -> easy--71.64.115.233 20:51, 8 March 2007 (CST)


 * I agree with the original poster, here...it took me a while to get the Ghial run down, and even longer to master manipulation of the mobs to get a good kill. Even then, there are times when I do not deal enough damage. Problems with this build (on the Ghial run, at least):
 * Does not allow for user error.
 * Does not allow for server/computer lag.
 * Does not allow for minor disruption (mesmer interrupts on Ghial run, and warrior body blocks on the way to Death Charge take precious time away)
 * Even past all this, does not consistently kill the boss in question (Ghial)


 * My current rate of success on the Ghial run (that's for kills, not for drops) is around 1/5. When I switch to a better PC, with less lag, it's still 1/3. Mesmers interrupt too often, or everything goes right and I just simply don't deal enough damage in the time allotted. EDIT: Sorry, forgot to sign in on the aforementioned better PC. Spen 12:10, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

Suggestion
With the GOEP buff so its next 5 spells i find it alot better to cast that then to cast deaths charge it means sliver armor is up for that little bit longer, mabay we can change the note on it it helps me alot? :)--Blade (talk|contribs) 10:38, 27 January 2007 (CST)

The Run to Modti Darkflower, ain't hard at all. If you walk against the left cliff, and walk off the little hill, there won't be any mandragors popping up

Rotwing Recurve Bow?
An idea struck me. COULD this build be used to farm Rotwing Recurve Bows dropped, not by Rotscale, but by the rotting dragons? Theoretically it SHOULD work, as long as it targets anything else BUT rotscale (no hope). I tried it once. Made the run there, but always it targeted not the dragons but rotscale himself. I think you gotta get really really lucky, and NOT use deaths charge.

Theres a lot of enchant removal with rotwing though, this is one I dont know if can be done. ~the rat~
 * Rotwing is level 30 right? if he is then sliver armor will target him EASY.--Coloneh RIP[[Image:Coloneh.png]] 00:40, 23 February 2007 (CST)
 * yeah but Rotwing's health is through the roof, I think it's impossible to do enough damage (i've tried it once a while back)209.45.206.102 20:59, 28 February 2007 (CST)

12 points on Earth Magic?
How do you do that? I have 12 points on Shadow Arts + Shadowy Mask + sup rune = 16. 3 points on Air Magic is easy but then I have only 82 points left which push Earth Magic to 11 with 5 points left over. Any explanation for this? Wiking 5:01, 28 January 2007 (CET)
 * Chances are you haven't done either Lost Treasure or An Unwelcome Guest. Those each give you 15 extra attribute points. Oscidaes 22:58, 27 January 2007 (CST)
 * Oh, I thought it might have someting to do with that but I really believed I did those 15 AP quests. Thanks for the reminder! Wiking 6:52, 28 January 2007 (CET)
 * You can check quite easily, if you hover your cursor over the box which shows how many attribute points you have unused, it says something like - you have earned 185 out of a possible 200 points possible or something. --Lemming64  04:34, 28 January 2007 (CST)
 * All those little things...you'll never stop learning, right? :) Wiking 16:05, 28 January 2007 (CET)

Silent Ancient Onata??
Has anyone been able to farm him because i couldnt get it to work. there are quite a few things to pull but i never go it. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legion rat (contribs) 02:59, 29 January 2007.
 * Isn't there like a Mob right in front of it? &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:56, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 * Yes, not sure if its my timing or what, this one seems to be the medium/hard to me, or i am just not doing it right. Anyone else had success with it?~the rat~
 * Are you letting the Assassin(s) run up to you and casting Shroud of Silence? &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:02, 31 January 2007 (CST)

Lunto Sharpfoot
Listed as "Medium/Hard" but once you know how to aggro, "Easy/Medium." So I'm guessing that somehow the aggro is different from other bosses. Maybe a touch more detail? I tried to have a chat with Lunto this evening, and it didn't go so well. But I have no idea what I was doing wrong -- Sliver Armor targeted him, but the Veldt Beetle Queens were healing him faster than the damage I was dealing. (Even with the 1 or 2 damage from the Totem Axe, and yeah, I was totally surprised that he didn't fall down dead just from shock) Thanks for any pointers.--Nkuvu 23:56, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 * I had a different problem. He ran away from my Sliver. So did Chor the Bladed. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:57, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 * Well he never got below... I dunno, 90% health or so... before the Queens healed him. So I may still run into the running away problem later.--Nkuvu 23:59, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 * I neither can kill him, he goes down slowly but my sliver armor expires to early--[[image:questbrod.png]] 12:39, 1 February 2007 (CST)

I had trouble with this boss because he would run, even using caltrops I could barely snag him, sliver armour would run out before I could finish him off... any ideas? Match 01:53, 2 February 2007 (CST)
 * I practiced alot with this and found that it is easier to aggro the boss and his mob to a nearby mob of elementalists, cast shadow form before aggroing the elementalists, pull them half way, and poof to the boss activating sliver armor once you are near him, He will try to teleport away (kind of...) but return quickly, and should be finished off by then, I also spammed obsidian flame and Crystal wave around, and it helped divert the healer a little... Match 02:06, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Ssaki, Dragon's Birth
Whenever i try to farm this boss the sliver always targets a different warrior even if ssaki is closest. Can anyone help?--Skullhat 15:28, 1 February 2007 (CST)
 * It's an inevitable problem, really. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 15:41, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Captain Chichor
Captain Chichor Is also farmable, you just need wait for him to start patrol, by going north of the small base, and waiting for him to join the large mob at that north gate. Match 00:59, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Help
Hi.I have a problem with this build ,I dont know why but i cant use it well.Maybe its because i dont know what "agro" means.Every boss i try to farm kills me,and i proceed the way it is written down in the usage.I have all the skills that are posted except one "Shock" but i use the "Obsidian flame".Please someone post a movie or something that can help me to use this build.thx &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ede (contribs).
 * There is a video linked at the bottom of the article. — Jyro X [[Image:Darkgrin.jpg]] 08:30, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Onslaught of Terror
I can't kill this boss, no matter how hard I try, He always flees, but is labled easy, does it need caltrops and relabeling or somthing else? Match 17:53, 24 February 2007 (CST)
 * Nevermind this, I found if you attack from the east it is very easy to kill this boss, intimidating aura proves as a difficulty if you approach from the other side. Match 15:07, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

Fighting Kepkhet Marrowfeast
I read in the build that said it is possible to farm Kepkhet Marrowfeast. I understand what to do, but the problem is, what skills should I bring. Should I bring Death's Charge to reach her easily? Or do you recommend farming another boss? I heard the staff can sell well, even though I really don't know how rare the staff is? --Dark Paladin X 12:50, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 * I haven't tried farming Kepkhet, but that's because I don't really think it's worth all that trouble. The staff is not very rare. I've seen it selling for 5k at the highest, but I suppose it's a nifty protection staff if you have a monk

Getting to Morgriff
I have been able to kill bosses but how do I do the run to Morgriff? Kiteeye 18:58, 3 March 2007 (CST)

Which to Practice?
I tried to use this build exactly what it tells me but I kept failed to use Sliver armor damage onto the boss, it always runs away, minion saving the day, or monk spam healing on it. How do I prevent that? and which one is the top 3 to practice on? so far I just tried on Lunto and Charr the Bladed. Kullwarrior 6:48, 5 March 2007 Mountain Times
 * Good training ones are The Scar Eater and Sessk, Woe Spreader, as stated in the article. Also, I found Ssyn, Coiled Grasp to be pretty easy too. What you want to do is Death's Charge to the boss so that Sliver Armor will target them (although a small chance of it targeting someone else if depending on the boss's behavior. --NYC Elite 18:19, 5 March 2007 (CST)

Ritualist Construct, not so hard?
Just went to try Ritualist Construct real quick. Pretty easy, got Kaolin Wand, not that it matters. Anyways, should difficulty rating be changed to possibly Easy/Medium? The trick that helped me was this: Not so many mobs surround the Construct, right? The article should note that adding a few damage spells (taking out dash and/or dark escape for more damage spells) such as Obsidian Flame and/or Crystal Wave, possibly in place of Shock and Aftershock. I'll add it under Ritualist Construct on the build article, revert if its unneeded. --NYC Elite 18:23, 5 March 2007 (CST)

Clean up?
This page is very messy, we should split the boss sections, maybe create new pages. --Defx 16:41, 7 March 2007 (CST)
 * I think the boss section is fine, the boss-by-location method is helpful when I'm in an area and want to see if anyone near me is farmable, I just think the explanations need to be cleaned up a bit, reduced to perhaps 1 or 2 lines (I see a boss explanation that takes up about 7 lines, I'm going to tackle that one), and some of them are a bit silly (someone wrote near Mahto Sharptooth - "The run is sometimes a bit tough.", he isnt difficult to get to at all, right after you finish with mindclouder head north, there's only one mob of hekets you can easily dash away from) but really guildwiki uses the majority rules principle, so if more people agree on one aspect then let it be done Wyvern 16:58, 7 March 2007 (CST)

Milthuran?
How about the Cultist Milthuran just outside Reahs Crater? Do his assassins have shadow form too?
 * Milthuran Uses Chilblains which can strip shadow form and just leave you for dead, but anyone with a damage dealing build can farm Mil as long as they're friends with the luxons at the time, the luxon priest can keep you healthy enough to kill him, see the talk of this build for an example Wyvern 15:22, 10 March 2007 (CST)

100 Bosses, reached and surpassed!
With the recent addition of The Hidden City of Ahdashim, we have reached and passed 100 bosses... yay! Match 20:40, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
 * Wow, this build has been here for over six months. I'm surprised this has not been nerfed yet. --Swift Thief 22:23, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
 * You've just jinxed it! AARRGGHH!!! Just kidding. Not really. --Mgrinshpon 22:14, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

kephet doesnt seem possible
too many mobs on the way,getting hit by 20 traps insta kills u,and the vamp touchs kinda kill u too.plz update.

I've done it but just barely. I picked up the green and died. I think i had to die once to get most of the traps gone however. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4862/kepkhetfarmeduh7.png ~Angelodeth

the mass amount of traps and vamp hurt a hell of alot,plus getting to the sucker from augury is a pain,minatours folow u,while u get getting hit by traps and degen,ughhh,but currently,i am not able to kill him.........

Vahlen the Silent?
I'm having trouble farming this boss, as an A/E I don't think my damage is high enough, and his constant spell prevents other spells from targeting him, so obsidian flame is out of the question. However, is there any better method to farm this guy at all? ~ Melton 22:25, 25 March 2007 (CDT)

Xuekao, the Deceptive
Jade Brotherhood and Am Fah keep agroing each other, resulting in boss not dying before shadow form runs out. "Be sure to let the Knight Brotherhood kill the Am Fah before you approach the boss, as how the Knights will attack the surrounding Am Fah making for a quick kill with 1-3 possible attackers" Can you post a video of this? All the Knights manage to do is get themselves killed, leaving nothing but Am Fah healers and necros.

It wasn't me that posted that but I recently made a video of soloing him that might be useful...It also helps if you put in teinai's crystals and obsidian flame for shock and aftershock. Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-US9hBQpS00 ~Blahblablee

Okay, the bad quality of youtube videos (you can't see red dots, names of things, any chat text) aside, I've managed to do this successfully and reliably. I run to the spot a little differently to avoid the mesmers, but it works out the same. The two keys that seem to make it work are running in only far enough to spawn the Jade that come from the hills without spawning the healer, then moving in close and casting as he attacks the final Jade.

Yeah sorry about the bad quality; it was fine before upload >_< stupid youtube...glad you managed to figure it out though ~Blahblablee

The Template
I request that the template be put on the page so that I can get the build before the build wipe.