Talk:Breath of the Great Dwarf

Its the super-extinguish! Shiverz 01:20, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

...Except that extinguish removed one condition regardless. A weak version of extinguish. Extinguish was used to counter SF and to remove disease, this is much more conditional. Flechette 01:30, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Unconditional Heal, only removes burning. Opposite of extinguish. The Paintballer (T/C) 17:27, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

I already know about the healing beind unconditional, I was talking about the condition-removal. It heals for less and it only removes burning unless there's a alot of burning-inflicting monsters, it's more of a super heal party but is harder to get as it's from a title track. Flechette 01:54, 21 August 2007 (CDT)


 * I wouldnt really call it a 'super heal party', the recharge time on this is 15 seconds while , even though it costs more , the recharge time on Heal Party is only 2 seconds.--Oremir 19:31, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Lets just say the skills has relations to extinguish, actualy i would prefer extinguish over this seeing as it both removes burning, both heal (extinguish conitionaly i know but i guess in an area where u don 't get set on fire constanly this skill is pointless to) also extinguish has the ability to remove other contions to and has a faster recharge, casting time in pve doesn 't mather that much. 84.192.118.21 14:50, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

This skill is made to fight The Great Destroyer,that is the only real use of it,and when we see name,its evidently.The Kall 12:28, 2 September 2007 (CDT)

well i would say that The Kall is right, but u could also consider this a heal party (or extinguish) for any class, so you dont have to be a monk, and can help the monks out in a pinch. The Observer 71.214.192.79 08:19, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

Mo/E Party Healer:

Fun to play, though it only really shines against Searing Flames and stuff. (T/C) 03:45, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
 * That bar makes me cry a little inside. &#91;Faer]
 * ='( Zulu Inuoe 05:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I know...it's missing Mending, isn't it? [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 06:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

This page has a skill anomaly on it, but it's not on the anomalies page, from what i can tell.

This on an E/A AP nuker = mini-LoD! --Call Me Rexy 23:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Anomaly?
Who has seen this skill remove poison over burning? I certainly haven't. 23:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * nope. removing. --Shadowcrest  02:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Not Allies or Spirits
I find that the skill's definition of "Party" does not include Allies or Spirits. Is this the case for all "Party" heals? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Separ (talk &bull; contribs) 19:07, 25 August 2010  (UTC).


 * Neither this wiki nor the official one are explicit about whether the "party" Range affects any entity not specifically in the "party" window. I think it's confusing to define "party" as an AoE "range" for that reason. See Range & GWW:Range, AoE & GWW:AoE.


 * Instead, if you think of BotGD (and other party-spells) as having "compass range" and targeting "party members," it no longer sounds like it should affect allies or spirits. &mdash;Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 02:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * And that's exactly what this skill's description says: "affects party members." Most 'party' skills do explicitly state "party members" or "entire party" and then give a range, such as 'earshot'; see Divine Healing, "Watch Yourself!", Restoration.  If a range is not given, then it is compass range.  "Party" itself is not a range, as Ernie noted.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 03:39, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * As has been said. You should always take note of the wording with party/allies. Martyr for example also takes conditions from allies within range, which is something that is easily overlooked.--[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]]El_Nazgir 12:07, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep. "Party" = players, henchmen, heroes; "allies" += spirits, minions, pets, NPCs.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 12:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)