Talk:Regina Buenaobra

Speculation and discussion of other people's personal life is not cool nor fair.

Jumping to conclusions and making assumptions based on circumstantial evidence is a violation of the values behind GW:NPA, even if nobody is actually "flaming".

Please keep that in mind in all future discussions.

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Mass Censorship
This was relevant to the community and there was considered argument from concerned parties. This should be reinstated in my opinion. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.192.60.20 (contribs).
 * It is located in the archive link above. -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] Sk8  (T / C)  22:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You want to rez that shitstorm? How was it helping the community? At the point it got to, it was all pointing fingers and he-said-she-said and "you're a crappy parent" and nonsense. I think it's fair to establish that statements about someone without proof is unfair. Just because person x joins movement y which is stereotypically full of z's doesn't mean that person x is a z. Ezekial Riddle 03:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless person y is me or Maui lol Lost-Blue 03:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Gah, do I have to include exceptions in my example? Ezekial Riddle 04:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Community Relations Manager
A lot of her articles are very offensive. I'm disappointed at her appointment to this position and I hope she doesn't let her prejudices affect the community. Comments like "Have you heard how immature guys talk to each other? Quite honestly, it’s embarrassing, ridiculous, and stupid. Why would I want to be a part of that?" fill me with worry when she's supposed to interact with the community, most of whom are teenage boys. -- Useve 16:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that siting a source of hers from almost a year ago justifies your concerns. Why does that comment bother you anyways?  A good portion of gaming community consists of immature players.  I think alot of statements made in that article are valid.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] Sk8  (T / C)  15:37, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless you're saying you're an immature guy, why is that statement offensive? It's a fact, considering they're immature guys. The only offensive things being said are the countless moronic things being said about Regina for no reason whatsoever. The way certain members of this community have acted towards her makes me extremely disappointed in the player base of my favourite online game, and in humanity in general. Capcom 18:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read the big yellow box at the top of this page.--[[Image:Cobalt6.jpg|50x19px]] - (Talk /Contribs ) 18:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Use of photo
I disagree with "who cares". What I am interested in is whether we can claim fairuse, and/or if someone can seek permission on behalf on GuildWiki to use the photo. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 22:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

No watermark = fair use. I'm sure Regina or the magazine that hosted it wouldn't give a damn anyways, it's more advertising for them if anything. Rue Bemeria 18:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * This image does not qualify under fair use. To begin with, a person is not an object. Furthermore a picture of the new CM is not information that is necessary to the content of the article. Finally, neither Regina or the magazine have been contacted regarding the use of this image, so you don't know whether or not they are okay with it. It has been used without permission. 24.18.150.225 18:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's very nice of you to defend her. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, what exactly is your point? You are using a copyrighted image illegally without permission. That's my point. 24.18.150.225 18:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * First off, Mister Anon, you won't get anywhere with that attitude. I'm no expert with licensing, so perhaps it doesn't qualify for fair use. In any case, since this seems to matter so much to you, why don't you scamper on over to GWW and ask Regina whether she'd like us to display her picture or not. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 18:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do you persist in assuming that anonymous contributors are male? That's sexist. And no, you are not an expert with licensing. That much is obvious. 24.18.150.225 19:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Careful, buddy. You might want to take a look at GW:NPA before you continue. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 19:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Felix, you need to chill. How in the world does a discussion about the usage of a photo gets into "defending" Regina??? I agree with most of what the anon said right now, except the if the magazine holds the copyright, then even if Regina says ok, it would still not be fine to use the image without the magazine's permission. -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 23:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't particularly like being called a sexist or being insulted and trolled by an IP. The anon has a valid point, but the way he's presenting it makes me care very little. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 23:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Felix, his unregistered status has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. Reading this, I feel that you're the one with "the attitude", and if anything, you should be giving yourself a notice about GW:NPA (even though it's not relevant, but you get the point in that 24.18.150 has done nothing wrong). Perhaps the "sexist" accusation was a little off (because obviously, there are no girls on the internet) but nevertheless... calm down.
 * But yeah, the image shouldn't be here. -- Brains12 \ Talk 23:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that you don't like being called sexist, but you the fact that you keep assuming that I am a male is sexist. 24.18.150.225 23:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well technically, "he" or "his" can be used when the gender of a person is unknown. Also, on an internet wiki based on a competitive game, it's more likely for males to be playing it, so one would perhaps strike more accurately using a male pronoun rather than female. Arguable, so the first point is more relevant. *Off-topic* -- Brains12 \ Talk 23:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, what Brains just said is accurate. Using "they" or "them," while more neutral, is grammatically incorrect; an unverified or generic user is referred to as "he" or "him" for consistency.  Ask any grade-school English teacher.  And as a female who's been referred to as male numerous times, I'd like to point out that being called male doesn't instantly make me think that the other person is sexist, merely uninformed. [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 00:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It has been established that using "they" and "them" in cases of unknown gender is grammatically acceptable. If you are not offended when others assume that you are male, great. Really, I mean that. But you don't speak for all women (and I do not claim to do so either). It does bother me and I find it to be sexist. Felix Omni may not be a sexist person, but I believe that his gendered assumptions constitute sexist behavior. 24.18.150.225 00:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not incorrect, but just because the practice of using male pronouns as the default when the gender is unknown is common does not mean that it is not sexist. And while I am sure that there are more males playing GW and/or contributing to this wiki, I don't think shooting for statistical accuracy makes for a valid argument. If you don't know, why assume anything? But anyway, yes, *Off-topic* 24.18.150.225 00:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to add that the definition of sexist, according to thefreedictionary.com, is sexist (adj) - discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men's attitude toward women). Felix was in no way discriminating against you.  He could have been somewhat less condescending, yes, but referring to you as 'Mister Anon' is not discriminatory nor, by the above definition, sexist. [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 00:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * By one definition. There are many definitions of "sexism" and that's not the one that I ascribe to. And he didn't just call me Mr. Anon. Even after I pointed out that he shouldn't have made an assumption about my gender, he referred to me with male pronouns. Look, you don't think Felix Omni is sexist and you want to defend him. I get that. That's okay. I do, however, think his behavior was sexist (and please note that I am making a distinction between his character, which you are defending, and his actions, which I am raising issue with, here) and trying to convince me otherwise is a waste of both of our time. 24.18.150.225 00:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; and I will admit my bias in defending Felix, as I am his friend. However, if the issue raised were that he attacked you unnecessarily, I wouldn't waste my time trying to justify his actions:  he was treating you unfairly, whether it was sexist or no.  And, clearly, whether or not it was sexist is open to interpretation, so I agree with you -- this debate is getting us nowhere.  On another subject entirely, have you considered making a GWiki account?  It could avoid such misunderstandings in the future, and, unfair as it is, the contributions and opinions of registered users seem to be granted more weight than that of anons. [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 00:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Off topic ftw --Macros 00:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's safe to say that I'm neutral here.
 * Unregistered users should have the same weight as any other user on the wiki. I think it's GW:YOU? -- Brains12 \ Talk 00:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They should, yes; but I think remarks such as 'Mister Anon' alone indicate that it's not always true. [[Image:Maui_sig.png]] 00:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Would calling you Miss Maui mean that I don't take your contributions of the same value? Or would it have to be Mr. 111.111.111 to be right? Don't think it really matters.--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 01:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * First off, Perhaps "fair use" is the wrong term, but what about the millions of pictures of Tom Cruise on the internet? Are those illegal too? Yeah, I didn't think so. The way I see it (and the law as well), the picture is "fair use" as long as it's not being used in a way to defame, demoralize, or otherwise "ruin" a person/place/thing/whatever. Until an official "cease and desist" letter is sent, no criminal activity has been committed.
 * Also, this has nothing to do with sexism. By you saying that it is a form of reverse-sexism by assuming that anyone gave a damn about that. tl;dr: don't feed the troll. Rue Bemeria 02:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)