Talk:Spear of Lightning

Most cheesy single attack ever? :) -- Bishop [ rap|con ] 04:52, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Spam spear, wonderful spam. --Black Ark 05:14, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Diversion, welcome back to the metagame. Ubermancer 00:31, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
 * This plus Conjure Lightning for a lot of armor-piercing pain. I loved this skill in the preview to build up adrenaline and damage warriors.193.61.111.50 11:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Conjure isn't armor piercing. I don't get why it's that good.. I mean, 2 second recharge, I get, but that's nowhere as good as focused shot, which is completely armor ignore... I didn't get to play a paragon during the weekend, and I regret it. Silk Weaker 07:09, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Focused shot deals 5 more bonus damage for corresponding weapon ranks. Your base attack damage, for any attack skill, doesn't ignore armor.  Only the bonus does.  --Fyren 07:13, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Spear of Lightning's Bonus doesn't ignore armor though. I'm unsure whether 25% bonus applies to base damage, but I can only assume that it doesn't...? If it does, it really would be very good, but as far as I can tell, normal +damage is armor ignoring, while SoL's Lightning Damage is not... --Silk Weaker 07:17, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
 * The 25% penetration applies to the base damage. Every attack skill's bonus damage ignores armor.  --Fyren 07:18, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Ah, okay then, I can see the point. Like 2 second recharge Penetrating Shots, but better. About lightning damage though... uhm, I was under the impression that elemental damage does not ignore armor? For example, Kindle Arrows and Conjure Fire do not ignore armor... Silk Weaker 07:20, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
 * There's dust trap noted on the anomalies page as dealing armor-ignoring yet earth damage. I suspect this is the same.  --Fyren 07:53, 19 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Ah, I see... I didn't get to test it and didn't know. This IS cheese then. I think it would make sense to make a note about it on the page, though, perhaps after nightfall has come out. Silk Weaker 07:57, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

NERFED. --Silk Weaker 09:41, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Nerfed you say? Well, 6 second recharge with 25% armor pen is still way too leet :D UnexistNL

Oddly, unlike Kindle Arrows, this skill deals damage in a single packet, which means that, if the skill works as written, it would be the only skill that deals two types of damage in a single packet. I suspect it actually converts the damage type to lightning, adds 25% armor penetration and adds 8..18 damage, but this can only really be tested in Scrimmage with the aid of "Go For The Eyes!". -- Gordon Ecker 00:00, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

Profession changers?
Why are professions changers listed under this skill? Shouldn't this be Skill Trainers? --Dfscott 13:31, 16 January 2007 (CST)
 * When you change professions, certain skills are unlocked for you. Since this is one of them, it's not even possible for a player to figure out which trainers really offer this skill.  --Fyren 13:33, 16 January 2007 (CST)
 * A fresh Paragon also starts out with this skill, so you *really* can't find out. ~Seef II [[Image:Weapon-spell-icon.png]] 03:31, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 * Should we remove the category for need nf trainer then? -- Xeon 04:16, 31 January 2007 (CST)