Talk:Defy Pain

Is it really usefull to keep the 17 to 19 strength values with "N/A" associated with them since I believe it is impossible to reach such strength values ? I would rather delete them, the article would be clearer. And I think the same goes for all skill-related articles. But that is just my humble opinion. --Funky Jah 10:48, 25 November 2006 (CST)
 * 12+3+1 plus glyph of elemental power/awaken the blood + +1 shield/focus. It's possible to have them on blood, curses and elemental. (also most caster stuff can be pushed to 17 with 12+3+1 +1 shield/focus) 23:05, 22 February 2006 (CST)

Shield's have +1 20%'s and the res shrines give +1 to all attributes blessings, so 17 is easy to get, and 18 is possible, and as told above, glyph elem pow/atb and a +1 from offhand and +1 from shrines.. 20! --Angelo

Anyone else think this skill is still useless, even with the March 2nd buff? 69.124.143.230 15:28, 3 March 2006 (CST)
 * No, because I have and do use it.. 15:34, 3 March 2006 (CST)


 * For what could this skill possibly be worth a potential Elite slot? Care to share your build?  69.124.143.230 03:25, 4 March 2006 (CST)

Not mine, got it off guildwarsguru 01:27, 6 March 2006 (CST)
 * it's even more powerful after the 2/3 update, ripostes do more damage and liv vic heals for more ;p 01:29, 6 March 2006 (CST)
 * That's don't feel no pain's Hydra farming build, right? Defy Pain is great in it, since you can usually keep it up at all times. --chrislee149 01:33, 6 March 2006 (CST)
 * thats his name, yeh and you can have loads of superior runes on ^^ 02:33, 6 March 2006 (CST)