Talk:Golden Skull Strike

This seems a very effective means for dazing, and shutting down monks to a certain degree. Kamahl 08:21, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Its another Temple Strike except you need an enchantment and it costs 5 less energy and doesnt have a cover condition. [[Image:Chuiu Me Icon.png]] (T/C) 08:51, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 * It also recharges 10s faster. Temple Strike takes an eternity to recharge. 149.169.109.183
 * Actually daze is on top of stack with Temple Strike, so it gets removed first, it covers blind. --Spura 05:27, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 * It recharges 5 seconds faster. I guess that means this takes an eternity minus 5 seconds to recharge. [[Image:Chuiu Me Icon.png]] (T/C) 20:47, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

Regardless, you could cover this EASILY with twisting fangs (2 more conditions, thankyou.), and don't look so much at RECHARGE as you do at duration of NOT being dazed. WithOUT silencing daggers, you can keep them silenced all but 5 seconds of the time, hoping they don't remove all their conditions. With them even longer, temple strike doesn't last as long overall, making it less effective than this in terms of caster shutdown. Kamahl 23:12, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

...Blind covers Daze, not the other way around [In reference to Temple Strike]
 * Wrong, Daze covers Blind in Temple Strike. Chumpy 11:44, 27 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Proof please. And while we're on it, talk about it in Templr Strike's page.--Silk Weaker 00:11, 26 November 2006 (CST)
 * Silk Weaker is right, Blind covers Dazed. I don't have a picture (I'll try to get one) but I was scrimmaging against a guildmate and used it (pre-Nightfall). My guildmate used Mend Ailment while I was healing and the blind was removed, he healed, and the little aura for Dazed was around the head, a condition arrow was on the bar, the skills still took 2x longer to cast, and my attacks interrupted. --NYC Elite 18:55, 24 January 2007 (CST)

The name of this skill is now Golden Skull Strike. Not sure how to change things.. --Buzzer 06:04, 27 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Found out how to move pages but doing the image and the links are trickier. Someone else can do it :) --Buzzer 13:14, 27 October 2006 (CDT)

FOUND IT
At the last location: Abbadon' Gate Get a strong group and move outside, the boss is in the center of the map. German Name of the Boss is: "Verwüster der Träume" I guess english one is like: Devastator of Dreams [Kolimbursi]

I found it as well. The name of the boss is "Ravager of Dreams", and he is located within the "Depths of Madness". Strangely, he seems to have no lead attack, so he never uses the elite. -Azrael the Needle

Previous Name?
It says it was called Golden Rhino Strike, but i'm 99.9% sure it was called Golden Jaw Strike...
 * Golden Rhino Bash >.<--IxI Raiden IxI 00:44, 8 February 2007 (CST)
 * I'm pretty sure it changed names more than once. --Fyren 00:50, 8 February 2007 (CST)

Quibble
Note says the daze lasts longer than Temple Strike -- this is true except at Dagger Mastery 16. (Well, also, merely equal at 15). --Bob III 18:30, 13 January 2007 (CST)


 * But it also has a 9 second cooldown at 16 in comparison to this 5 second cooldown at 14. This is better for Daze.

Honestly...Dazed doesn't have to last more than 5-6 seconds from any source, thats why 90% of the Dazed skills only apply it for under 10 secs. Its a spike condition, not one you try to spread. So when factoring in which Dazed source you want, look at how its applied (an attack vs just a skill, recharge, cast time, etc). - Former Ruling 16:06, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

That note was grammatically a nightmare, and blasted difficult to understand just what it was trying to communicate. I worded it differently, much clearer now. -Gildan Bladeborn 10:26, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

LAME
I feel that this skill needs something...more. Why? Frankly, if you're PvE'ing, BHA is a far better skill to use. Assuming you're a sin, you'd have it on a ranger in your group. That's if the mob in PvE is giving you enough trouble to warrant use of dazed. In PvP, which is really the only place I can think of needing to integrate a daze skill, Temple Strike wins, because if you're trying to spam a chain, a 15s recharge is still totally useless. You need to be enchanted, so unless you're running with a monk or have a long-duration enchant pre-cast, you're spending at least 5e on an enchant. Then, you're going to need to keep yourself safe. You're either going to have to blind or block. Crit Def is 10e, and Blinding Powder is 5e, and requires an investment in SA. Overall, you're investing 2 slots and at least 15e for something Temple Strike can do in 1 slot and the same amount of energy. Recharge-wise, there's the argument of the 'mere' 5-second window between no-daze and recharge. What that means is that you're taking a crap-ass long time to kill. You're a sin. If you're not killing in less than that amount of time and your chain doesn't recharge in 4 seconds then you shouldn't be PvPing.

I mean, in the end, comon, at least give GSS something over TS. +damage pl0x! 71.50.205.130 18:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

then? RT | Talk  19:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

--Gimmethegepgun 19:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I highly disagree with the above statements. The thing you do not realise is that this attack is almost made to be used in pvp. in pvp hitting a monk with skill will almost end his day unless he has reversal of fortune or another fast casting spell. with a silencing weapon, this spell will only have 3s downtime at high levels of dagger mastery. either way you should always have an enchamtment in pvp such as critical agility or assassins remedy, so that is just a bogus complaint. if you do not want to enchant yourself you cannot beat this skill for it. for its cost and duration, this skill does much more than most other dazing skills, as it does not have the crazy cost that TS has, or require 9 adrenaline like skull crack. i am not suree how to remove the LAME tag, but i think that it should be removed.