User talk:Dirael/Mafia2/2

why does nobody put headers?
I am annoyed with these results. + RT you fail, hes going to write it (Hes writing it atm). -- Warwick (Talk)/(Contr.) 21:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the point, there is no page, so you can't talk about it RT 21:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hes making it.. I said that as a joke (Cress did it on shadows last game). --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] Warwick (Talk)/(Contr.) 21:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Whatever RT 21:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's true you know :P  --Shadowcrest  21:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I take it your fine with this page? RT 21:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * How did the captors drag me off and manage to run around back to the meeting in time? Thought ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19.px]] 21:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They are pwnsauce. Perhaps they have a secret asura gate they use to travel quickly. Good solution, really. --Shadowcrest  21:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Assassins with Recall? --[[image:GEO-logo.png]] Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  21:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea. Maybe they melded to the mursaat with Thoughtful and then came back to camp while (player) was waking everybody? --Shadowcrest  21:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Gameplay
Starts R</B>T 21:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Count votes for me today pl0x :P  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No thank you, I'll let RT.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 21:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no suspicions atm... Anyone? R</B>T 21:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, so far Thoughtful's the only guy who died. It's most likely a random kill; the Mafia doesn't have much to go on either (last game was an exception, those rofflecakes needed to be stopped).
 * There's also the chance that Thoughtful came out of the gate as a threat to someone. Did he accuse anyone seriously yesterday? I don't think Thoughtful had any ideas either, but perhaps we can backtrack through the Mafia's logic and see why he was killed. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  21:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. He hated marco in game 1, but that's virtually unrelated. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Or is it... 0.o --[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

huh?
So Isk8 and Brains are automatically innocent?-- (Talk) (Contr.) 21:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's possible. I don't mean to imply they are or they aren't with the note, they were just the names I used for lore. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * But if you're chasing after people that you saw dragging Thoughtful away, couldn't you just tell who was missing from the group to know who the mafia is? phail less @ lore plz--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 21:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * lern2read 2 sections up kthxbai :P  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

How about
Lynch Goldenmama, since he's gonna kill himself if we don't anyway. 22:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe he only did last time because he was just a regular town. Ofc, it's possible he's a town anyway, but.. k. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lynch Marcopolo47. He is mafia.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (EC) Chances are, if he's still alive, he's happy with his role. Which either means he's Mafia, or he's important. Which ends up meaning nothing whatsoever. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  22:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I am happy with my role. Being playing mafia is fun.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * He's asking for his death again, are you sure there isn't a lynchee in the game? :P --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 22:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * XD!! --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Since Goldenmama has just revealed himself as the Ascalonian Diplomat, I will say lynch Jio. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Since he was lying, I will say lynch Goldenmama moar. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * NO I WUZ JUST MESSING AROUND. I AM MAFIA LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we unsubscribe Goldenmama from future mafias? --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 22:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why? I add mystery.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Normal people call what you do "annoying". --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 22:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I shall desist from being "annoying"-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I will make a executive decision and decide that the double/triple voters MUST post on the talk page before using a second/third vote. So, while he may be the diplomat, he'll have to confirm it first. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 22:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey guys, check out Special:Editcount/Goldenmama for laughs. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Please don't make fun of my contributions. I worked hard for those.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have contributed to this wiki's mainspace. My edit count shall no longer be humorous. Onto the subject of mafia, lynch Jiorugi.-- Yellowmama  TALK TO MEH!!  22:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know about timing tommrow, so i'll vote No lynch and may change tomoz R</B>T 22:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

My vote and some clarification on role needed
Triple vote JediRogue, I justify after I wash up and use bathroom. BTW, does my triple vote get refunded if the person I chose doesn't get lynched? Misfate 23:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt your vote gets refunded, or else you could triple-vote every day until you got the majority. Why do you want to lynch Jedi anyways?--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 23:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, they don't get refunded. You can take it back while waiting for majority though. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Reasons for lynching Jedi: 1. She's smart, so if she is mafia and she dies, mafia have less strategy. 2.Shadowcrest is probably angr(not a typo) since mafia lost last game and probably made Jedi (a smart person) mafia to make townies lose. 3. We have to start lynching sometime soon. 4. Jedi never played as a mafia in any of the previous mafia games, making it more likely shadowcrest picked her to be mafia this game. 5. I think I might get an edit conflict. 6. Paranoia is ftw. 7. It'll be easier to pick out other Mafia members if they try to protect her today. 8. A lot of stuff I said makes no sense. 9. I made a new section whenever I say something. 10. FFS just lynch Jedi. 10. I got edit conflicted by Shadowcrest, he says they are not refunded, supporting my number 2 reason Misfate  23:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * TBH, random lynching golden mama is equal to or more stupid than lynching Jedi. Previous sentence doesn't make much sense. FFS just lynch Jedi. Misfate  23:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Did I mention lynch Jedi? Misfate  23:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think so.--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 23:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Roles were random, and Jio is intelligent and was a mafia last game. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * noU. Lynch Jedi for '08. Misfate  23:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, do mafia have a forum where they decide who to kill? The extra day after Shadowcrest delayed today by 2 days might have been caused by Jedi explaining stuff. Misfate 23:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They should, I was mafia last game and we did (to Shadow: No, I have not checked the forum!)--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 23:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * There is, but I used a different site than last time to make it harder. And actually, one of the mafia STILL hasn't registered... >.>  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Misfate's crazy reasoning actually makes a lot of sense after reading it. lynch JediRogue. Cress Arvein(Talk) 00:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the sarcasm Cress. Misfate  00:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure Mafia communicates by forum considering a conversation I had with Shadowcrest XD <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19.px]] 00:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought we went over pretending that didn't happen :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Misfate's reasoning makes sense... except roles are (usually) randomly assigned. no Lynch[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  01:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretending what didn't happen? <font color="Purple">Thought <font color="Blue">ful [[Image:Thoughtful Sig.png|19.px]] 02:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

RI: Lynch Jedi, not using my triple vote here. (Bad mistake you guys are making, just like electing George W. Bush). Mafia will kill me since they know my role. Good game. fail. Have I mentioned George W. Bush fails? Misfate 02:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Misfate iz angr
I'm going to commit suicide if Jedi doesn't get lynched. Misfate 02:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Misfate gets angry very easily...--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 03:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Go die in a fire. Misfate  03:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine. Lynch Jedi so Misfate doesn't light me on fire. :P--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  03:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * any more the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work that much but its fairly effective. very weak against any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill Misfate  03:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't lynch me. I'm not gonna put down a long "reason" section at the moment but... don't lynch me.&mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 03:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * EC.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 03:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Jedi will mind wash you into thinking that lynching her will be a bad choice. Misfate  03:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Quickly, edit-conflict her to death!--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 03:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * E-E-E-E-E-E-E-EDIT CONFLICT BTW, IM NOT AGRRY> Misfate  03:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to die tonight
So either: 1. Doctor save me plz. 2. Inventor do something plz. 3. Let me die, but I pass on my "papers" to someone else, giving my ability to someone else.

Or we lynch jedi. Misfate 03:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Have fun.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 03:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * IM NOT ANGRY, OR LYNCH JEDI. Misfate  03:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

reason...
Okay, I'm going to start by defending myself a bit here. First off, if I'm a mafia, then yes I would be a good person to select. However, if I'm not mafia, then we (the townies) will have lost a valuable person who can reason. If I am mafia, I should point out that I doubt the mafia know much and have as little to go as we do. If that's the case and I was mafia, you could probably leave me alive a bit longer until you had some proof. Now, as to my roles in prior games.. SC's previous game was my first game. The roles are random. So that makes no sense and means nothing. Also, you had hoped that if I was mafia, seeing who defended me would help you find out other mafia members. This would be a good idea... if you hadn't told them about it! If you're going to use that strategy, use it tomorrow. Go after your suspect and wait for the lynching. Then use who tried to protect them in the next day's reasoning. Now, you've basically gotten the entire town to be frightened of not saying a word about me. Everyone except the mafia who would keep their mouths shut. Since I'm a townie, its in their best interests to let you lynch me. And even if I were mafia... they know that to defend me would reveal their roles. You've basically made this very difficult. If anyone listens to me, it has cast suspicion upon them. Since the mafia would keep their mouths shut either way (if I'm mafia, defending me implicates them; if I'm townie, they'll want me dead) the only people who would say anything about my death are townies. Townies who defend me are now looked at suspicously. Perhaps you knew that only townies would step up. You had better truly be the Diplomat because you have only made yourself suspicous in my eyes. Lastly, ''of course I'm going to try to convince everyone to not lynch me! I don't want to die!'' Townie or mafia, I wouldn't want to die. I'm valuable to you guys alive. I'll post my reason for the previous day in a bit. I'm forming up for HA atm. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 04:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Kk, brainwash less, moar lynch Jedi and HA formations. Misfate  04:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ow, brain hurts... anyway, I'm sticking with no lynch because we have nothing on anyone so far. I'm actually leaning more toward Misfate ATM, since he's trying to get a smart player killed with no evidence against her. Its quite possible one of the "may or may not" roles is Mafia this game, and a one-shot triplevote would be a good one to give them.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  04:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If your mafia, your more valuable to us dead. I'm sticking with my vote.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash  04:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Triple vote Jedi. Your going down. Misfate  05:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol, so you guyz think im a mafia ascalonian diplomat? Makes no sense. I mean Ascalonian White mantle Misfate  05:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Misfate really, WHY lynch Jedi? All the reasons you provided are just pure speculation. And lynching on speculation always ends bad, we've seen that in other games. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 07:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I am finding your use of the triple vote WAY premature in this game. The power that role holds is much stronger, the smaller the numbers, and in turn, the majority.  Because of you revealing your role, we know that you don't have any inventor/cop info to tell you a players "true" identity.  So, in other words, you are purely wasting your ability on a "hunch".  GG.  As for the time being, I am going to jump on the Lynch Goldenmama bandwagon.  He is just strange, and the way he is bouncing his viewpoint around makes me suspicious.  I do agree that we don't have much info to go on as of yet, though.   Seeing as I just got home from work, and not many ppl have posted yet, I'll leave it at that, and wait for more input.  -- [[Image:Isk8.png]] <font face="comic sans ms" color="teal">Sk8  (T)  (C)  15:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This game is quickly getting messed up. --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 15:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * no lynch. All the reasoning is just guesswork. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 15:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, it's still too early to make a proper decision - no lynch. -- Brains12 \ Talk 15:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Too much speculation, not enough majority, and so on. I'm going to vote Lynch Goldenmama simply because he asked for it; you might say that's a good reason not to waste a lynch on him, but what if it's reverse psychology and he really is mafia? Meh. --<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  17:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you think Goldenmama can play such mind games? --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 20:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Its the internet. You never know. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think, because Jedi protested so much, Lynch Jedi. Although I'm not sure.. Perhaps Lynch Goldenmama... --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr.) 20:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't you protest if people were trying to lynch you :| and no lynch. --[[Image:Progr.jpg]] -- talkpage 20:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)