Talk:Harpy

Subtypes
I think that Scree may not be a species but a culture of sorts and that the griffon like creatures are pets, or mounts, or some kind of beast of burden as they don't look anything alike.... Unless its a freakish larval stage. JediRogue 15:39, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 * Or dimorphism even more extreme than the Margonites' four-armed males and two-armed females with flaming wings. I didn't see any male Harpies. -- Gordon Ecker 23:24, 25 September 2006 (CDT)


 * The Skree article definetly shouldn't have been moved to Harpy, because these aren't equivalent terms:
 * a) Skree clearly is the name of the "super-category", use in many places. Most importantly in the Skree Battle conscription order. Furthermore the vast majority of Skree (including the Skree griffons) have "Skree" in their name, and they all drop "Skree Wings". Yes, the Skree are called "Skree Harpies" or "harpies" in some quest dialogues, but "Skree" is still the much more predominant term.
 * b) Maybe not all Skree are harpies. Some Skree look like griffons. These may or may not be separate species. Maybe this is akin to the Ice Golem belonging to the Stone Summit without being a dwarf. The Skree griffons trigger the Skree Battle bonus, but we don't know for sure if conscription orders necessarily indictate the same species, or maybe the same "organization" or "culture". Does anybody have the exact wording of the Skree Battle? Does it say "Skree" or "Skree Harpies"? And: Did anybody do an EoE test with Skree harpies against Skree griffons? Maybe there will be a weapon "of Skreeslaying" or "of Harpyslaying" or "of Griffonslaying" in the retail version of Nightfall, so we can check.
 * c) Maybe not all harpies are Skree. Skree Harpies may actually be a subtype of harpies, like Caromi Tengu are a subtype of Tengu. Maybe there are other types of harpies in Kourna or Vabbni. We just don't know yet.
 * In any case, Skree must be an article of it's own, not a redirect to Harpy. Infact, I'm re-creating the Skree article right now, moving some of the content of the current Harpy article back there. Once we have a final, compelling clarification about how Skree, harpies and griffons are linked together, we can re-merge the Skree and Harpy articles. --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 02:34, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Copied from Category talk:Harpies, because it is relevant here:
 * There is a conflict about how skree, harpies and griffons link together. See Talk:Harpy. For now, I'll create a category Category:Skree harpies and a category Category:Skree griffons. Both will be a sub-category of Category:Skree, but Category:Skree griffons will also be a sub-category of Category:Griffons and Category:Skree harpies will also be a sub-category of Category:Harpies. That seems like the best solution for now, based on what we know. --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 02:44, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * I just noticed that all Skree griffons have been moved back to Category:Harpies. :/ Hmmm .... I think that was wrong, but I'll not revert it for now. Let's see what others think about it. --[[Image:TurningL sml.gif|Tetris L]] 02:17, 29 September 2006 (CDT)