Talk:Arborstone (mission)

Fast Clear
My team managed a fast finish on this by not starting the last part of the mission, but the stone judge still spawned, as soon as we killed him Danika ran to the door, we just fought a few stone rains and the mission ended super fast. Now this might not be very different for people but the last few times i've done it i've had to kill ALL the mobs before the gate would open?--Woonack 16:50, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

Clear Times
27:00 on the dot got all 3 rewards.
 * 30:30 and only got two... those 30 seconds probaly...
 * also i tend to think that expert is always 5 minutes longer than master :D Alexanderpas Talk 18:12, 8 May 2006 (CDT)
 * 29:12 and I got Master's reward (3 swords)
 * I realise that this is a little old, but I agree that 35 minutes is probably the cut off for expert, I got 34:28 and got expert. I'm guessing that I just squeeked in there.  :)  --Rainith 20:00, 8 July 2006 (CDT)

Cathedral Collapse
Did anyone take a SS of the Cathedral Collapse description? --CoRrRan 23:33, 9 May 2006 (CDT)

Bug Status
I believe the latest fix dated May-9th has fixed the problem with Danika not opening the gate at the end of the mission. I have heard reports that now she runs to the door and opens it once all the mobs in the area are dead.--VT 03:58, 10 May 2006 (CDT)

Bosses
I can without insureanse say that the boss Ryver Mossplanter ( Ranger boss with Lacerate I think ) spawns here

Rewards
I think I might've gotten 500 faction for completing the main objective, not completely sure though. -- Gordon Ecker 20:33, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
 * I'm pretty sure that I just then got 250 Kurzick faction after getting the Expert's reward. I have attempted and completed the mission once. -- Dashface [[Image:User_Dashface_Sig.png]] 08:36, 1 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I can confirm that I got 500 Kurzick Faction for completing it at Expert's Reward level:
 * [[Image:Arborstone Reward.jpg]]
 * --Rainith 20:12, 8 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Here's the Master's Reward. The skill point from the second line is actually from a level-up and not part of the mission's reward.
 * [[Image:Master arborstone.png]]
 * -Burzer 10:35, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

Not fun with Henchmen
If you plan on doing this alone... don't die. The recent henchmen resurrect change makes it pretty difficult to be resurrected, due to the falling debris. - Greven 21:33, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
 * Well, if you don't die it's manageable with Henchmen - even Master's Reward (29:46) --Chi Li [[Image:Chi_Li.gif|Chi Li]] 15:49, 7 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Just as an update, the above was fixed a while back, and the mission is (imo) super easy with heroes + henchmen. -Scyfer 14:26, 5 December 2006 (CST)

The three routes through it
I noticed that the walkthgough recommends the center route. My first time through this mission I did it with henchies going through the center. However, the other four times I've done it with random PUGs, and there's never even been any discussion on it, all random PUGs that I've joined seem to choose the northern route without question and have always gotten the masters reward. My perspective may be skewed, as the one time through the center was with henchies; but the northern route does seem easier of the three to me. Before I modified the article to remove the suggested route (leave it more generic, up to the reader to choose), I wanted to get other perspectives on the relative ease of each route. --- Barek (talk &bull; contribs) - 15:42, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I totally agree, whoever recommended the center route must have been on drugs. --Bishop (rap|con) 16:12, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * My experience has been the exact opposite of Barek's. I went the northern route with hench the first time through, easy enough. Later went back to go for masters. First PuG lost masters, however everyone went to the center route(I didn't even know there was a center :P) Second group, all different PuG, everyone went to the center again.
 * But I agree. I found the northern route much easier too. I'm afraid that is still a skewed opinion, however, as I have not tried the southern route yet. --Gares Redstorm 17:44, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * That would be me. Maybe it's just my style of playing, but for me the center path is definitely the easiest (only 2 groups of Oni, not 5 (?); many, but small groups of harmless Warden, no hordes of Undergrowths and annoying Dragon Mosses, no boss...). But well, I'm outnumbered 3 vs. 1 with that opinion, so it's hard to argue. :) --84-175 (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * Most of my masters (3 out of 5 characters) have been via the center route. The wardens are quite easy to beat, but you must be careful not to fight the two groups of Oni towards the end under the heavy cathedral falling zones. I think I'm biased, as my first attempt was to go north, but not knowing the difference between the heavy cathedral falling and the light, my party was decimated by the constant interrupts. Now that I know better, maybe I should try the northern route again... --Thervold 18:25, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Nevermind. Looking at the orientation of the map, I've never tried the northern route. We died on the southern route. Still, the center is not difficult at all. --Thervold 18:28, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * We could always get a group of 8 GuildWikians together to attempt each route. Time consuming, but then those eight may agree at the end.
 * Personally, I find Undergrowth some of the easiest creatures to eliminate, and most PUGs avoid the boss on the northern route (although one group insisted on killing everything we saw on the route, and we still got masters). I do agree that the Oni can be annoying; it may just be from repetition that they don't phase me now as I know when to expect them.  For someone doing the mission for the first time, I could see where a route avoiding the Oni might be viewed easier.
 * But, in the end, I think this discussion is showing that choosing an easiest route is personal opinion on this one, which is why I wanted to remove the reference to an easiest route - leave it up to the reader to choose. It looks like the wording has already been modified somewhat to make it a bit more generic in the recommendation. --- Barek (talk &bull; contribs) - 18:31, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * We can also remove any recommendation on what's the easiest altogether, flesh out the walkthrougts for the side routes (which should be done anyway) and just let the users decide for themselves. :) --84-175 (talk) 18:55, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * The features of each route (more Oni, less bosses) should be highlighted and then the choice left to the reader. I found the scariest thing in the northern route to be the Ele boss. His ele attacks for 500 dmg are just insane. Since henchies tend to pile up next to each other, that means a few of them die in the encounter. --Karlos 19:15, 2 June 2006 (CDT)


 * I think you mixed up north and south, Karlos. The Dredge are on the southern route and that one wasn't really up for discussion so far. :) --84-175 (talk) 19:23, 2 June 2006 (CDT)

I wish to point out that the south route is not that hard IMO, sure the dredges are a pain sometimes but I had no trouble with my Axe-assin and we had only one hench healer and no human healer and still managed masters reward. Anryla
 * I completely agree. My first time through this ever got me masters (in 22:37!) with a group of heros (MM, SF, W) and henchmen, and dropping the urn continually. The dredge weren't that hard, and only 2 small oni groups. I haven't tried the others. I'm thinking the southern route should be the recommended - sure it's longer, but this means everything's spaced out MORE = easier. -Scyfer 14:24, 5 December 2006 (CST)
 * 2nd run along the northern route was 22:35 (very odd, did it hours after the first - almost the same time...), but I was slow (skill capping and wandering around but I did know what I was doing far better this time) so it likely is the fastest. Or maybe they're all the same, honestly. -Scyfer 17:46, 5 December 2006 (CST)

Urn Table
Can someone reword or expand the explanation for that table under the Notes on the Urn of Saint Viktor? I'm having trouble understanding how to read it and what exactly is it trying to show... --Ab.Er.Rant (msg Aberrant80) 05:58, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
 * Done. Make sense? -- [[Image:Bishop_icon2.png]] Bishop [ rap|con ] 06:27, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

can someone explain the 'urn levels,' how you know what level it is, and how exactly it is 'charged up' by damage to the bearer? thanks :) Bloodsong 19:44, 9 November 2006 (CST) er, i seem to have found all that on the urn's link.  nevermind!  Bloodsong 20:16, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Additional Notes
It says that she must survive under objectives, yet here is says that it doesn't say that. What is it really?