User talk:Dirael/wiki content archive 3

"that was a formatting fix"
What? 23:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * He typed "#..." rather than "# (your vote here)" . Besides, I doubt he'd oppose someone who he said he'd probably promote on IRC. --Shadowcrest 23:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But the fact remains that he was the one who posted it. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Then what would be the point of [ moving] it down and not signing it a second time? Not to mention [ Ishmael] added it too. --Shadowcrest 00:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The original "#(your vote here)" was [ removed by Shadowphoenix], after which Auron added the "#..." instead. I simply moved it back to the bottom because other people had ignored it and left it up in the middle of everything.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I belive I see. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Gazooks, I missed that. I'd thought that Auron's first edit was the moving. He's been watching the page all along, but not indicating any opinion. Weird. --mendel 05:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Auron's opinion was very clearly stated on IRC the other day: Phalange is a "good friend" who Auron knows would "do the right thing for the wiki". Which, as we've seen, means we can't have fun anymore.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 13:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting that Phalange has stated on Banjthulu's talk page that Auron is no friend of his. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 13:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Revert war on Legendary Sword
Hi, I know this was yesterday, but apparently this is still an issue. Don't engage in a revert war, even if you think the information entered is false. If your undo is reverted itself, leave it be -- contact the person reverting (i.e. the one repeatedly putting in said false information) and/or discuss on the relevant talk page. If that person continues, try to keep discussing or simply wait it out. Toodles, from your friendly neighbourhood do-goody, -- R  Phalange  20:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was the first person to revert that info, I didn't break 1RV. (though even if I had, see point 2.)
 * We can't keep track of prices, so everyone there was just removing what could technically be construed as vandalism. Particularly since the IP in question was warned not to keep adding the same info. Letting him sit there and list prices while we twiddled our thumbs thinking "Oh no, can't break 1RV!" would have been stupid. --Shadowcrest 14:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Though I guess this has already been pointed out elsewhere. --Shadowcrest  14:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Read.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 01:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

bye
When I post this, I will be leaving until July 12th. Here is a list of pages to check, as a reminder to myself.
 * User talk:Entropy
 * User talk:Marcopolo47
 * User talk:Auron of Neon
 * User talk:JediRogue
 * User talk:PanSola
 * User talk:R.Phalange
 * User talk:M.mendel
 * User talk:Defiant Elements
 * User talk:JediRogue/RP affair (if it exists)
 * User talk:Xasxas256
 * Request assistance
 * Admin noticeboard
 * Wikia staff noticeboard
 * User/User talk:Defiant Elements/RFA
 * GuildWiki talk:Request for rollback rights
 * User/User talk:M.mendel/Admin Criteria
 * GuildWiki/GuildWiki talk:You are valuable/Draft 1
 * GuildWiki talk:You are valuable
 * As well as any important discussions that crop up while I'm away, in addition to what happens as a result of any drama that occurs. Any help with this bullet upon my return would be greatly appreciated, since these pages are the only ones anything important is occuring on at the moment. My psychic powers are, sadly, severely lacking. :(
 * Have fun for the next two weeks without me guys. --Shadowcrest  02:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Check Talk:Acorns and the talk for GW:DID if you haven't already. --◄mendel► 01:38, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It'll suck you in and you won't escape. the acorn wins. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by PossessedLinebeck (talk &bull; contribs) 01:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC).

Beeecaaaause!
[ Mendel did it to mess with me]. Well, partially anyways, the display: none message was to make me think I was tripping because if I were to respond to him, in the edit box I would see a message he had already put up. No one else bothered to close the tag. I don't know what the first /div tag was for, maybe he wanted to trip up people who posted afterwards by making them thing he had closed the division. &mdash; Powersurge360  03:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That page loaded disgustingly, with ads coming up halfway through the page and the left bar covering the logo. Did it do that to you? --Shadowcrest  03:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It didn't cover the logo, the division that contains the image was ended before the image could be placed inside. As for ads, I never see any ads, I use firefox. &mdash; Powersurge360  04:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The conundrum talk page never looked like that for me. Hmm, wait - [ now I see it], too. In fact, this was a result of PS360 adding a with no , which unbalanced everything. --◄mendel► 10:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

SmashWiki

 * ...is complete and utter failure.
 * ...is mostly bullshit or info that you can get from the game easily.
 * ...is a disgrace to SSBB.

So there's not much competition. :\ I like Wiki formatting for ease of information, but few Wikis are as complete and thorough as I'd like. That's why I go to Gamefaqs or such... (T/C) 18:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I got banned there for having a bad name, it was too long ("any more the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work that much but its fairly effective. very weak against any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill." to be exact). I had to upload an image for Shadow, and I don't even know if he/she (still a mystery) has it right now.. Lol. The image got deleted cause it had nothing to do with SSB. So, gl uploading sig images? They have issues, as Shadowcrest pointed out to me. So, yeah, I agree :> --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  18:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) They're definitely complete and utter failure, but I think you mean just mainspace, and they're complete and utter failure for more than that. Auron, DE, LoaT, Mendel, Warwick, and some #gww IRC users can attest to this. As for 2/3, I learned some good stuff there, like SHFF(l) (though I can't do it other than in practice mode when I'm not doing anything) and wavedash (which I had never heard of). Do you use the forums on gamefaqs? --Shadowcrest  18:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * @Viper once I pointed out his own image had nothing to do with SSB he said I could use it if I put it in my smasher template. But that would mean getting rid of Zelda's Light Arrow trophy, and I would never do that :o --Shadowcrest  18:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Get 2 smashertemplates? --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  19:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought about it, but I don't really care what my userpage looks like there. They won't let me help them, so if they're content being failures... so be it. There's nothing I can do for them if they won't let me. --Shadowcrest  19:08, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wavedashing died (well, almost). Snakedash is the way to go now :> It is nice place just to collect images and such, but if you're a serious Smash player then it is simply unsatisfactory. I wanna learn how to play better, damnit. Find me a prO place like Gamefaqs where (with work) I can extract all sorts of new tricks and strategies, learn alternative uses for moves, find combos and chain grabs, learn techniques for edgeguarding, etc... (T/C) 19:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, the smashwiki community does not fail all that utterly, witness my talkpage (you have to read this first, and yes, I'm talking about the orange box), but then again, that is 2 users out of how many? --◄mendel► 23:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They are complete and utter fail imo =/ --Shadowcrest  23:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't quote my watchlist back at me, please.
 * You can't prove "complete" by example, but you can disprove it by counterexample.
 * Why not talk to me on irc?
 * --◄mendel► 23:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This proves my point.
 * Prove me wrong :P
 * Then it wouldn't be public. And I wouldn't be able to put it in such an amazing format. --Shadowcrest  00:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

After seeing some of those things I am even more confident that, yes, there is a lot of things bad in Smashland. Randall shouldn't be a sysop imho. Still. I am...not happy about GuildWikians going over there to boast and generally make us look like pretentious asses. It's none of my business anymore, of course, but I can't help but think anytime this sort of transwiki communication takes place, it hurts GuildWiki and justifies the other wiki, whatever it may be. I don't usually see much positive interaction between GuildWiki users and other wiki users...it's usually "we do things different" or "from our experience this is wrong", and that's really not a nice thing to say. In the same way as, say, R.Phalange has been not so welcome here because he is an "outsider", I doubt that any criticism, no matter how well intentioned or true, is pleasant for these other communities. So I think we can join them and help them grow, sure, but don't parade the GuildWiki banner around with you. My two cents. (T/C) 01:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

How to tell if it's an account
There's a way to tell if a userpage belongs to a registered account or not. If the "contributions" link is there, it's a real account. --Macros 22:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw that too, but assumed it was there because the user: prefix was there. I have been proved incorrect. Though it struck me as odd that he would register User:LaZy Naion Article and then create it from User:Troah. --Shadowcrest 22:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Now you really do have a new message!
SmashWiki doesn't lie ... --KyleH (talk) 00:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Now it lies still. Even after a cache clear :( --Shadowcrest  00:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Armor updating
Erm, I'm told the general consensus is that /attention is a bad pose. I'm updating it without /attention. It's an unnatural pose and can hide details of armor. Wanmoke 03:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Your picture was replaced because It did not clearly show which bits of the armor where dyeable, seeing as red is very close to the undyeable bits.--[[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]]ìğá†ħŕášħ 03:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) The red dye throws off what the back of the armor looks like. The red is hard to distinguish from the brown, and people expecting the dyed parts to be green won't find any because there's no green. /attenion is a bad pose, but keeping the color a) the same and b) in contrast with the undying parts of the armor is more important. --Shadowcrest 03:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Rawr. Could I be notified next time instead of just reverting? I'll have him retake the pictures with green.  Thanks.  Wanmoke 03:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Moiax doesn't frequent the wiki anymore, so either you or anyone else with a male ranger needs to retake the pictures. And ok. --Shadowcrest  04:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

M.O.X.
Do you remember what he said? I think it was "AT YOUR COM-MAND" but I don't remember for sure and already closed the client, is that what he said? &mdash; Powersurge360  23:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it was "as you com-mand". Can check now, I guess. - -<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 23:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * GWW says "BY YOUR COM-MAND". Adding. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  00:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Help on SmashWiki
I'd really want some help on SmashWiki. The user, Randall00, banned me for three months without reason or warning. The other admins don't help me because they, "Don't feel like it." Then I was permanently banned without reason. I tried talking on my talk page about the ban, but then the use Clarinet Hawk blocked me from using it. They don't use their IRC channel, so can you help me out a little, please?  CAFINATOR    Gentlemen...  21:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't have any power over what SmashWiki does. That said, I feel for you, Randall does that a lot it seems. If they don't check IP addresses you could always make a new account and come back and try not to get caught. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 23:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I assume I was asked because I can be reached outside of SmashWiki and because I guess I must be notorious for arguing against the admins. That, and mendel said on a forum that I'd be good to ask. My reply is at User talk:Cafinator. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggested you mainly because I don't know anyone else who can be reached outside of Smashwiki and would be expected to listen. --◄mendel► 23:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Titles
Do you happen to have a link to any solid confirmations to the question raised here? -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 21:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Honestly no; but even so, I'd advise against telling people that they can indeed get LDoA and Survivor and having them waste their time to do so. Change the note to "It is assumed that ..." or something similar if you wish, but I don't think not mentioning it is a good idea. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  21:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree simply removing the note is a bad idea. I just wanted to know if you know the answer to the Imp question. (-: -User:PanSola (talk to the [[Image:follower of Lyssa.png]]) 21:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. In that case, I have no clue :P --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  23:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Are you...
Pissed off beyond recognition? 1 week bans are rather long O-o" --- -- (s)talkpage  19:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I banned them until after halloween (was too lazy to type in 6 days). And log spamming pisses me off. My watchlist on smashwiki just got owned by a move vandal. And since I'm not a sysop there, wikia's move restrictions stopped me from rv'ing. it sucked. --<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, I see. Reasonable. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  19:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Your poll
Don't worry, you're still valuable no matter what people think. (T/C) 21:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll always be valuable, but it's not mutually exclusive with being an ass.
 * I realized (well, I had 'noticed' before, but had mostly ignored it) that I sounded way worse than I intended it to be.
 * Ever since the whole "R.Pha affair" with all the bureaucrats and 'better' sysops throwing around 'decent sysop' more than accusations are thrown around during a presidential campaign, I've tried to "improve." (This comes to mind. Just as she was hurt that you didn't promote her first w/ Auron and Pan; it was the same for me.) I picked Auron as "goal" of sorts- I tried to be more like him in the logic-sensical-srsbsns stuff way, but not in the I'm-a-prick way. But it's recently become more and more noticeable that while (imo) I've advanced in the thought branch, I've also started acting more assholish than I ever intended. I wanted to know if other people thought the same way. --<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest 21:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I always found you a bit assholish, as you call it. But terms like that are rather wide, imo. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- (s)talkpage  21:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Order of promotion has nothing to do with whom I consider to be "better" sysop. For JediRogue I honestly did not know whether I wanted a 3rd bureaucrat at that time since I thought that maybe I could still be staying on, and 4 seemed like too many. I consider most of the current sysop to be more or less equal to each other in "decency". You're not a prick on this Wiki to my knowledge, and on SmashWiki for example you've got a relatively high standing. I think you are overthinking things.
 * Besides, being a small dick is usually better than being, say, a carebear or a troll. (That sounded wrong. You know what I mean.) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 21:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Tee hee, entropy. &mdash;[[Image:MaySig.png]] Warw/Wick 21:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I know that order of promotion doesn't have to do with me or the other sysops, but I see it as similar to her feelings. She said "I was made insecure because Entropy promoted Auron first"; when people started insinuating that the decent sysop group were failures and other failures about sysops that applied to me, it touched a nerve. Since then, I've tried to improve.
 * And thank you, and lol :P --<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think a better goal for you should be to be like I was, without the constant fury. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * But that would only leave sound. And no one likes it when you toot your own horn! [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I see what you did there. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 22:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)