User talk:Zorbonkingofpants

Welcome
Welcome to the wiki, self. =/ --Zorbonkingofpants 00:35, 23 February 2007 (CST)


 * Aww. Welcome Max! You're the best! --Jasminethetender 20:02, 27 February 2007 (CST)

I think I figured most of this stuff out :D --Jasminethetender 10:50, 20 March 2007 (CDT) wuv

Build Wipe
User:Sefre/Build Wipe Petition You seem to have similar feelings on this issue.--Sefre  23:30, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Builds Wipe
I don't want to keep reformatting the builds wipe page, so I'll discuss this with you here. I don't know what more you expected when you say you weren't given a chance. This policy has been proposed many month ago. It lingered in the proposed policy section, which anyone can access from the main page, while debate went on. What more did you want? Did you expect us to put up a banner announcing that this discussion was going on? Discussions are everywhere on a wiki, and there is no conceivable way we could post enough notices to inform the community of every single discussion that is occuring. The best we can do is collect all the proposals in one space, organize them, and make them easy for users to find. We've done this here. If someone wants to participate in policy discussions, they will actually have to go to the polcy page and post their ideas. We cannot make it any easier for anyone, short of dragging them by the arm to the site of discussion. If you wish to be engaged in future policy debates, I've provided you the link; it's up to you to follow it and post your opinions/suggestions. - Krowman (talk • contribs)  22:30, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
 * It's just that as an average user, I don't normally concern myself with policy (I am quite sick of that word) - I feel that is part of the responsibility of the admins. But when a sweeping change of this sort is going to be made, I don't think it's fair to the community not to let them know.  I've visited the policy page recently, but only to see if it was actually there.  I am not concerned about changes in NPA and so forth, because I have no desire to attack anyone, or do anything that wouldn't be considered 'normal.'  Yes, there are policies in discussion, but none of them are going to result in a third of the site being demolished.  All I'm getting at is that this change will drastically affect the site, but very few of the users were involved in the decision-making process.  As far as a banner goes, there is a threshold, as far as deciding what should be advertised, but perhaps that should be a policy as well. --Zorbonkingofpants 20:18, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
 * What are you talking about? You say "But when a sweeping change of this sort is going to be made, I don't think it's fair to the community not to let them know;" have you missed the banners posted all around the wiki? If you came across the policy page and chose not to contribute to the discussions going on there, then how can you complain that people's voices are being unheard? You were in a prime position to voice your opinions, yet as you said, you didn't concern yourself with the policy debates. It is also unfair to say that "Yes, there are policies in discussion, but none of them are going to result in a third of the site being demolished" as though the Buildswipe was never discussed like those other policies. The plan to nuke everything has been discussed for nearly a year. Anyone was welcome to join in. If you really want to improve the wiki, you can stop this poorly-reasoned complaining and start contributing to what will become the new Builds section. - [[Image:Candle.jpg|12px]] Krowman (talk • contribs) 01:54, 5 April 2007 (CDT)