Talk:Knee Cutter

Hamstring + Knee Cutter anyone? --Lann 15:10, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Or Crippling Slash... The Imperialist
 * Grenth's Grasp, Glacial Blade, Knee Cutter, gogo. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 01:59, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

This is worthless. You're using a 5adrenaline skill (wich has to be charged from zero every time), to get 3adrenaline (that you already had before using this skill) and energy for 1 energy based-attack. If you're a Sword Warr, just use a bit less energy-based skills and put an adrenaline-based attack to use instead of this.PvEreanor 11:22, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

It's not worthless. Hamstring uses 10 energy, and this can help with energy management. The fact is, with this skill you can cripple a foe immediatly, unlike Crippling Slash, which is also an elite. This skill does is not only help charge your other adrenaline skills (think about using Dragon Slash with this) but also help you spam cripple on the target to prevent them from kiting. THIS is why Hamstring (or Grenth's Grasp, because it cripples immediatly, but i'd rather take a non elite sry entropy ;) ) + Knee Cutter is superior. --Lann 15:06, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * lol i like links --Lann 15:10, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

Um, if you reread what you wrote you might notice a few errors. Crippling slash will cripple AND bleed your opponent in one hit. Knee Cutter requires a crippled opponent. Entropy's suggestion is good. I could see a bar with Crippling Slash, Knee Cutter, Gash. Include Enraging Charge and Flail in that bar as well. Right after you unleash Crip Slash, hit enraging charge (which will cancel Flail if it is up) then hit knee cutter. At strength 10, Enraging Charge will net you 3 adrenalin plus 1 more for the hit and 3 more for Knee Cutter (assuming sword lvl 16), bang 7 adrenalin and 7en (at Sword 16), gains you back all the energy for enraging charge, with net gain of 2en or 3 with a zealous mod, and nets you enough adrenalin to unleash Crippling Slash, Knee Cutter and Gash again. A Crippled, Bleeding and Deep Wounded opponent for minimal cost. --BeeD 22:41, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

Ok now, that is really useful.PvEreanor 09:52, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

BeeD, plz understand what you read. Immediatly means its a energy attack. Thats what I meant. Crippling slash requires you to build up adrenaline first. Please read Adrenaline if you are confused on how adrenaline works. --Lann 17:18, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Also, what you state is that use Enraging Charge after cripple slash, but since knee cutter requires less adrenaline, it should also already be charged. Also, flail is good to use if your oppenent is crippled, for you are slowed 33%, but your foe is slowed 50%. You will get much more adrenaline from using flail. Plus you need something in your build to use the extra energy gained, or else there's not much point, for you won't being doing much dmg, just spreading some conditions (anti kiting, minor degeneration, and deep wound). Also notice that Entropy is a SHE. --Lann 17:25, 9 August 2007 (CDT)