Talk:Lightning Surge

What does this mean?

''the orb allowed by surge's delay means slighty higher spike damage. ''

--Karlos 19:27, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's the fact that the delay allows you to cast Lightning Orb at pretty much the same time Lightning Surge strikes, allowing for a large spike with the combined damage. &mdash; Lunarbunny 20:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but that's not "slightly higher damage." --Karlos 21:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Orb + four or five other spikers versus surge + orb + four or five other spikers. --Fyren 21:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


 * You're assuming PvP. I am not. :) --Karlos 23:44, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The note explicitly says it's talking about PvP. There is no assumption.  --Fyren 00:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Are you guys sure that removing Surge won't trigger damage + kd? Usually when a hex is removed the end effects happen immediately. --The Uglymancer 17:03, 26 May 2006
 * There is a big difference between "when this skill ends" vs "after 3 seconds". One is usual, one is not. - 19:06, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Why is the spike in pvp comment still allowed in there, its counterproductive to Pve'rs trying to start PvP. Putting Lightning Surge on the target 3 secs before the spike is like whispering the other teams monk and telling him who you are going to try to hit... - Former Ruling 22:00, 19 November 2006 (CST)

Always fun to use inspire hex on this when a silly dragon essence trys to kill your friendly neighboorhood assasin.--Coloneh RIP 18:45, 25 November 2006 (CST)

Stealth update?
When was this skill changed from 10 energy to 15 without exhaustion? I thought I would have noticed it if it was in any update notes in the recent past... -- Macros† ( talk / contribs ) 18:18, 2 December 2006 (CST)
 * Game_updates/20061025. Too busy playing NF? ;) &mdash; Skuld 18:23, 2 December 2006 (CST)
 * Ah, I remember that update. I was rather overwhelmed by it all, I must have missed it. But how can you explain this?
 * The data is kept in Template:Lightning Surge &mdash; Skuld 19:29, 2 December 2006 (CST)

Outdated
I believe that this skill is now one of the more useless Elementalist elites - maybe even one of the more useless Air elites. The weekend update to cost 15 with no exhaustion is nice, but it still doesn't have Armor Penetration and, as the notes say, is fairly easily countered. It's okay on bosses with Natural Resistance because the knockdown occurs in ~1 second, but Gale would still be better imho. In PvP, air spike is kind of outdated and I don't think people use this anymore...haven't seen it since forever.

However, the one usage it still has left, is that it's one of the only Air Magic spells that deals Lightning damage but has no AP. Which makes it suitable for testing resistance and vulnerability to lightning damage. :) Entropy 11:47, 28 January 2007 (CST)