User talk:The Goron/Builds/SV Invincimonk Against Magni

Good News
The healing spectator has apparently been removed as of the latest game update. Well, it's good news for the Invincimonk build, at least. The Goron 22:51, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Spectator Healer
Figuring out a way to deal with this guy is a real pain the rear.... The Goron 10:29, 2 September 2007 (CDT)

I've tried putting in Scourge Healing, but the spectator is invincible. Tried putting in an AoE spell like Symbol of Wrath to make the enemy flee away from the spectator, but that doesn't work consistently. Stepping just inside the door and scooting left, and waiting on a caster to approach you instead seems to work every once in a while, but again, not a solid fix. And Razah + healing spectator has been the death of me every time I've encountered them in the same fight. This will require more work.... The Goron 11:23, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Devona isnt quite a pushover.. With two healing skills it takes a good amount of luck yo kill her before energy runs out. If this happens its easier to just maintain PS until energy is full, and then have another shot at her. By the way, this is an awesome build. Ive beaten the tournament five out of six times, only failing once because i wasn't prepared for Razah.
 * Razah seems to be getting more and more difficult... :-/ I'll figure something out. The Goron 20:36, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

Yeah Great build man!! no problems as of yet! And yeah the spectator can be a bit annoying (Haven't faced razah)
 * I'm glad it helped! The Goron 20:36, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

Devona is pretty much a pushover--Bulletproof Monk Li
 * Hi Goron, just want to say thanks for this build and the tips. After 4 or 5 attempts, I stopped panicking with Magni and I got The Bison Cup! Cheers! - Joseph C [[Image:Light_of_Deliverance.jpg|19px]] 18:47, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks! A boost in ego is always nice. The Goron 20:36, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

many thanks for the build :)
I just got my first completed tournement thanks to your build, thankyou very much Goron, i'm saving this one and using it from now on in the ring ^^ --The end time is coming, for i am its herald. 18:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Some sin was talking crap in Ascalon City about how he could beat anyone in a 1v1, and everyone was a /\/00|3 compared to him, a couple weeks ago, so I destroyed him using this build (even though I forgot to switch Necrosis out...pvp only skill :P ). Just a fun fact, I am definitely not suggesting that this build is useful in any way other than for this tournament, as anyone that has any common sense at all going into a 1v1 against a monk will put in a skill to defeat a 55 (a touch skill or enchant removal.) This guy didn't even have a self-heal, which makes him the worst 1v1 player ever, but I found it highly amusing that he lost to a SV/parasitic bond monk build after all the crap he talked. The Goron 22:13, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for enemy info
Didn't use build but used info about enemy. I think you like to add these.

Norgu:Will come near but wont attack.uses backfire,so wait that it's over. Old Mac and Joe: Joe uses broad head arrow which dazes.Try to dodge it, but focus still on Mac.
 * Thanks for the enemy info yourself. :P [[Image:The_Goron_Triforce_Sig.jpg]] The Goron  22:42, 6 September 2007 (CDT)

Interrupt?
An interrupt skill is invaluable in the NFT. I would recommend switching out Parasitic Bond for "You Move Like a Dwarf!". It casts instantly and it KDs. And it has a 10-second recharge :) --Wizardboy777 16:36, 8 September 2007 (CDT)


 * Parasitic Bond is a necessity, as it's the cover skill for Magni to remove before you apply Spoil victor. If anything, reversal of damage should be switched out for an interrupt (and I've already thought about putting that skill in when I unlock it, actually--reversal of damage isn't honestly needed). The 55 build doesn't need interrupts nearly as much as the other builds; however, it would be a little extra boost against Razah's wanderlust, cynn's signet of restoration, and possibly danika's heals. Thanks for the tip! [[Image:The_Goron_Triforce_Sig.jpg]] The Goron  21:02, 8 September 2007 (CDT)


 * Parasitic Bond isn't neccessary, SV recharges fast enough that it isn't a big deal if he removes it once. I've beaten him several times with SV and no cover hex. Also, could you put up the skill template for this? [[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png]]  Entrea Sumatae 23:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, Life Siphon > Parasitic Bond in terms of damage and healing. Maybe better energy, but who really cares? [[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png]]  Entrea Sumatae 23:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

build is needlessly complicated
To defeat magni the bison, you actually only need 3 skills to win 100% of the time:

The rest of your bar should be geared towards ensuring you can beat the rest of the contenders. --Travers 17:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, the very first line on the page (which I'm assuming you didn't read :P ) is that the build is designed to beat EVERYONE in the tournament. It goes on to list how to defeat 'nearly' everyone in the tournament.... But thanks for the input. [[Image:The_Goron_Triforce_Sig.jpg]] The Goron  04:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)