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Rounding
Hm, not sure this is the right place to ask, but couldn't think of a better one: How does GW handle rounding? If you halve the recharge of a skill with 15-sec recharge, does it round to 7? Does it stay at 7.5? NightAngel 15:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the help guys. THat was really nice. NightAngel 12:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it rounds up for damage [example: if under their armour you would deal 12.5 damage, it would turn to 13], but for skill recharges, I believe it rounds down.. Not sure though, probably best to check up on this. --  Scar  -[[image:Scareth_Sig.png]]-  Contributions  † 13:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

New and fresh
Fresh and clean! -- Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 21:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Button, Button, How do you delete the button???
Ok, you can drag mini buttons for the menu on to the screen. Great and wonderful use of a mini button. Ok, I have a button I didn't mean to drag on to the screen, how do I get rid of a menu mini button? User:Lady Rah 11:05 EST January 9, 2008(UTC)


 * Drag the minibutton back to the menu --Gimmethegepgun 04:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I tried the above suggestion, it gets rid of the button during the time on, but once I log off and log back on the unwanted button has returned. Any other suggestions?

User:Lady Rah 22:50 EST January 14, 2008 (UTC)

Automagic footnotes/references.
Wikipdia can do footnotes with the and keywords, but these don't appear to work here? Other keywords, or is there another build-in method? Amy Awien 18:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I myself don't see the need of it, anywhere. And I wouldn't know if we have such a thing implemented. I think not... --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 18:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't understand how one could not see the need for it, there are footnotes on many pages. Manually adding and maintaining them is stupid, especially if the wiki-software can support automatic numbering, updating, placement and hyperlinking of footnotes. --Amy Awien 00:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about footnotes made on pages that are like 2 then there really aren't many articles with those. Otherwise I don't know what you're talking about...the normal "Notes" sections aren't footnotes. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 15:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was talking about the 'superscript-numbers' and the regular hyperlinked wiki implementation. I suppose they wouldn't be used frequently if the mechanism is not available. If it's a standard wiki-thing it can be useful to turn on, I am not going to do them manually. --Amy Awien 16:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

The staff Handsmasher
i was wondering if i could purchase the staff Handsmasher through guildwars website. i have tried fighting the boss multiple times for the drop and was unsuccessful. please respond as soon as possible. thank you.


 * GuildWiki is not the place to buy or sell items. Try Guild Wars Guru for that sort of thing. And no, ANet doesn't sell in-game items either. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 18:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Nightfall Warrior Nightmare
Bought GW:EN at Christmas and loved it. Decided to bring my warrior over. Had not played GW since June. While looking over that character, noticed she had a 9 strength. The 9 is in red. Nothing alters her strength; do you know why? 24.92.169.191 00:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Journey to the North --Gimmethegepgun 00:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Discontinued premade builds
Why dont the build links located under at http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Premade_build work?

I remember a while back that these links actually worked. Can anyone shed some light on the situation?


 * Earlier these were in-game builds that you could select when creating a a new PvP character (even if you didn't have the skills unlocked), that feature was removed and most of these builds no longer see much use.
 * All builds have been removed from this wiki and current builds can be found at the pvxWiki project. Amy Awien 14:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Lost attribute points
Hi just wonder.. Im a lvl 20 Ranger, and when u are lvl20 u should have 200 attribute points but i only have 170 now.. how come? did i do somthing wrong?? ore is it any way i can get the 30 i lost back? i cant use any build now..
 * Are you sure you did the 2 attribute quests? --Shadowcrest 02:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * There are a total of 30 attribute points given to you by quests. The quests are:


 * For Prophecies characters:
 * Forgotten Wisdom
 * The Hero's Challenge
 * For Factions characters:
 * Lost Treasure
 * An Unwelcome Guest
 * For Nightfall characters:
 * Rising in the Ranks: First Spear
 * Rising in the Ranks: Sunspear Master Sergeant
 * --Gimmethegepgun 02:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Done all of them.. Done whit Eye of north, Prophe, Faction and i have rank 7 in sunspear
 * What campaign is your character from? --Gimmethegepgun 03:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Prophecis
 * That's bizarre. Have you tried to get Forgotten Wisdom, The Hero's Challenge missions again? If not, then ... well, i'm actually at a loss for words. Try leaving a message on Gaile Gray's talk page, see what she can recommend. Good luck. :) [[Image:Bigrat2sAvatar.jpg]] Bigrat2  Talk  04:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I also have this problem, and I have completed both quests. I have not been able to find an answer except to ask NC Soft about. My char is tyrian born.
 * Weird... Again follow advice about gaile grey above RT | Talk  18:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

i am stuck
ok so i have done every mission and quest on the little island of nightfall, but i cant get the quest the time is nigh to make it to the docks. i have been ferryed to the docks and have traveled all over that island looking for something that i have missed. i am very confused. i have a warrior that i have made it across with but i cant with monk? somebody please help me!!!!
 * You have done the three quests from Castellan Puuba? Those are the ones I would have missed. You must complete all three. --Shadowcrest 04:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

PUG Bulletin Board
How about a page where people can sign up for PUG's for certain missions, areas, or dungeons? Not everyone has a wonderful guild with someone designated to be Julie the Cruise Director. A page with a table that lists missions, areas, and dungeons down the left side and dates across the top might allow people to fill in their names for the dates and places? If a table won't work, can we add sections to the appropriate area/mission/dungeon page that list proposed PUG dates and times and provides a space for people to sign up?

Any thoughts?
 * I'm not sure how this would work. The people who contribute to wiki are spread across virtually all time zones. And imo this isn't really a wiki-page type thing, this really is find a guild/ask friends/hero+hench things. --Shadowcrest 23:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * GW-Guru has a PuG board: PUGs and Grouping. --Amy Awien 17:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

ferry from Night Fall to Proficies
how do i get a character from Night Fall to Proficies?


 * From some point on, I thought Venta Cemetary, you can get a quest in Kamadan to take you to Prophecies. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * NF --> Prophecies = Terror in Tyria quest. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Returned: Where to find a "returners guide"?
I've returned after not playing for a long while, i also purchased nightfall as my housemate has it (and it all now magicly works under linux!) but apart from reading the "beginineers guide", what could i read to get up quickly upto date on whats new, whats changed, whats different and whats the most important bits?. Im looking basicly to learn quickly about heroes, and anything else that might of changed with nightfall, and the last few months too.

Thanks, --90.195.63.205 17:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, theres the Heros page, and for game updates you can check here. --Shadowcrest 17:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

How do I make user boxes
Can someone redirect to a guide or explain me how to make userboxes. Big Bow 20:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * check this out for the basics :) --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 20:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice, ty. but how do I find the bank of images .jpg that go in the left square?Big Bow 21:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are loads, but there is not one big list. I'll add some links RT | <font color="Black">Talk</B>  21:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, keep in mind a number of "standard" userboxes can be found listed here. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 04:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm wrong Special:Imagelist is what your looking for <font color="Blue">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  21:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Another approach is to go to Special:Prefixindex, select the "Image" namespace, and use the "Display pages with prefix" to find images starting with the text you type in. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 04:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow that is more than I expected, ty vm.Big Bow 04:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

help
what would be a good build for r/n and where do i get armor that is really good
 * You can buy maximum armor in Droknar's Forge, Consulate Docks, Kaineng Center, or any areas that sell elite armor. See PvXwiki for builds. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 00:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Assasin
Hi I Was Just Wondering If There Is a Build For An Assasin to Solo One Of The Five Acoyltes Of "God Name" Please Reply Saying Yes,No And Acoylte name if possible and please give me the build if possible :) thanks
 * GWiki doesn't retain builds anymore. PvXwiki is a popular build site, check the PvE->farming category. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest 19:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Why did you capitalize the first letter of each of the words? --Gimmethegepgun 19:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've Had Several Online Friends That Do That. I Don't Know, Exactly. It Takes Much Longer To Type, IMO. [[Image:Jamster Sig.jpg|19px]] ---Jamster--- 20:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No Duh It Takes Longer To Type, It's A Complete Pain In The Ass To Do And I Keep Having To Go Back Because I Forget To Capitalize Something Oh My God This Is Annoying --Gimmethegepgun 20:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well Then Learn Not To Phail Pl0x --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">Shadowcrest  20:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Im stuck
I have a nightfall character and i want to get him to the prophecies map.......cuz i want to get my dervish to droknars forge can anyone helpBold text
 * Take the quest Terror_in_Tyria, all the details are in that link. [[Image:Jamster Sig.jpg|19px]] ---Jamster--- 18:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict ftl) You have a few options.

1) You play your Dervish through the Island, completing primary quests and the 3 missions there. Once you make it to Consulate Docks after completing, The Time is Nigh, you can then take a quest from Mhenlo, that allows you to travel between continents.  (See Terror in Tyria).

2) You can get ferried to other continents by other players, usually charging a fee to do so. I am a little fuzzy on how that one works, perhaps someone else can better explain it.

Hope this helps. Aggro  Sk8  18:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Something Strange In The Neighborhood
Not so much a question... well I guess it is, but isn't. This is regarding in game messages, which today I have started receiving from random players. They are advertising gold selling websites. I am completely baffled as to how this may be happening, as I have never seen these character names before, and am currently sitting in my guild hall. Anyone else ever seen this happen before? Screenshot to follow. Am I required to omit the character names of the other players on uploaded screenshots? Aggro  Sk8  18:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Never happened to me...[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  19:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This has happened to me before. Just put the "players" from who you receive the messages on your ignore list and they seem to stop whispering you after a few days. If it goes on any longer probably worth taking screenshots and reporting it to Anet. --Cobalt 19:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Here is the screenshot of the spam I have received. At first I did place both players on ignore, but then something popped into the back of my head.  Look at the text from the first one.  He shouted out something inbetween spams.  Hench my questioning with the second one, to which I received no response.  All names (other than my character) as well as guild information, have been blurred out.  I am wondering if people are perhaps using 3rd party apps or sites, that end up turning their account into a mobile spamming station, similar to how it happened very often in Diablo 2.  If this is the case, I am slightly worried.  And also the question of how does one whisper you in game, if they do not know your name. I can imagine if you are standing in town or something, but I'm in my guild hall.   Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  19:11, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You do have your IGN plastered all over your wikipage here, and I'm sure its elsewhere on the web (Gw guru? Gww?). Yeah, they're generally bots, all with names like xxdb and spamming the same website, go to Int Dist 1 Great Temple and you'll see them :P I've never been bothered by PMs like that mind you, not yet, anyway. [[Image:Jamster Sig.jpg|19px]] ---Jamster--- 19:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say my IGN is "plastered" all over here :P Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  19:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, i thought the post between spams was from a guildie or something, strange that a bot would post that. Not that its much help now, but responding to these PMs is probably not a good idea as it proves that your account is active and used by a human (rather than a bot) and is thus worth spamming.
 * As for how they get your name, I have no idea. I was quite freaked out by it myself when it happened to me, so much so that i did a spyware/virus scan on my PC and changed my account password, but thats just 'cos im paranoid and i don't recommend that ;). I think they must use bots similar to the ones you can see in the great temple of balthazar to 'Harvest' the names of players entering the outpost.


 * As a final point, im not sure you need to grant anonimity(sp?) to bots - they are unlikely to complain about your not asking permission to display their names ¬_¬.--Cobalt 19:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'd rather have the gold-selling site's URL blurred than the bot name. I think I first noticed the spammers in GTOB almost immediately after the free GW trial promotion for FilePlanet subscribers started. That could have something to do with the new surge of them. Since then I've been hit by them upon loading into Shing Jea Monastery and Kamadan, though not as often. &mdash;Vendetta411 08:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Also the blurring out was somewhat pointless as the message about being in the same district clearly shows the bots name to be "Sha Wanna" xD --<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  19:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have recieved random messages in game as soon as I travel to the Great Temple of Balthazar. Seems as though I get them when I travel there and continually get them while standing there. Unindal 15:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I read this question yesterday morning, and started getting the same PMs last night. I was in Gate of Madness at the time.  Can't /report because they aren't in the district. :( -- Peej 14:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The bot said "Dude Die Already?" Avalance 14:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No, just the gold-buying messages. -- Peej 14:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I just had a message from the same person (or so i would assume since it was the same word for word) i had just made a pvp char (litteraly 2 secs) and then i got the message..weird blocked like 2 secs after i got the message so there was no real problem
 * Anti-Bot Campaign. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm in for that i got 7 people on my ignore list cause of that damn website.

Colour of PC names in towns and outposts
This might be a dumb question, but why are some PC names in towns/outposts dark blue and some light blue? (press ctrl to display) I've noticed that light blue names for PC's in groups less than 8 will turn dark blue when you hover the mouse over their name. Apart from that, I dunno.
 * The colouring indicates if a player is a member of a party or not, light blue = not in party, darker blue means in a party. A party can be other human players, henchmen or heroes, they all count. As for why it "changes" when you hover the mouse over, this just means that went you entered the town that person was not in a party (or you didn't receive the data from the server in time), but upon hovering your mouse over, your game client updates it because it as since learnt that player has joined / left a team. It is done this way, as it would consume too much bandwidth / resources to update every player's client that is in a district the very moment anyone else in that same district entered or leave a team, instead you get "updates" every now and then, and your client only bothers to change the display if got spare CPU-cycles (ie, is a low priority task) or you mouse-hover. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 02:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

naming a pet
how do i name a pet?
 * Type /petname --Gimmethegepgun 02:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Item Store at my User Page
I was wondering if I will be violating any rules if I were to turn part of my User Pages into like a "store front" to keep track of items I have and am willing to sell? Unindal 15:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see there being anything wrong that. Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  16:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll wait to see if more respond. Thanks! Unindal 17:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You may do just about everything with your userspace, besides violating policies (like NPA). I neither see anything wrong with it. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It'd be kinda weird if you had just that, but no theres nothing wrong with it. As far as I can tell anyway. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 20:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason behind it is that I want a centralized location for what I do have for sale or trade. Not only for myself, but for others as well. Unindal 17:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely no reason you cannot do that on your userpage. Essentially users can do whatever they want (within reason) in their user space as long as it is not disruptive to the wiki (uploading tons of images, using it as a guild forum (or anything else that might clutter recent changes with updates not related to the wiki at all), lewd and inappropriate behavior, copyvios, etc). As a sysop, I give you official (and by official I mean that I won't stop you from doing it) permission do make your userpage a store front. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥<font color=MAGENTA>Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 18:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Unindal 19:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Character Size with blocking?
Upon being assured that there was no difference in character size from other characters, i have now come to realize that weapons scale to the size of characters, therefore making a bigger warrior have a larger axe. Because of this i have started to wonder if size has something to do with blocking too? i have noticed that being the smallest warrior possible i have a tougher time blocking than warriors who are larger than me. Is this all in my head? is there a difference in blocking?
 * Nope it's all the same 198.54.202.146 14:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be game-breaking. ANet realized this, and that's why body blocking is not affected by size. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 13:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

VQ Abrev.
What could the abbreviation VQ stand for? I wiki'd it, didn't find anything. ---Jamster--- 14:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A guild? 66.194.217.221 14:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * In what context? <font color="DarkGoldenRod">Himm <font color="Red">Taeguk  (T/C) 14:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 'Got it while VQ yesterday.' [[Image:Jamster Sig.jpg|19px]] ---Jamster--- 14:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Vanquishing? <font color="Green">Lยкץ๒๏ץ <font color="Blue">talk  14:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds like vanquish to me. <font color="DarkGoldenRod">Himm <font color="Red">Taeguk  (T/C) 15:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

change a password help
i think someone has my password and i need help to change it. plz help
 * On Guild Wars... Or wiki? <font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  20:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

it is on guild wars plz help
 * Can you log into your GuildWars account? <font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  20:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

i can log on but my stuff i have on it has been moved and gold and some platum was gone
 * Ok, you need to go to http://www.plaync.com to change your password, you might have to register there and tie your guildwars account to it if you havn't already <font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  20:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

how do i tie them together ?
 * Go to the play nc website, press the account button on the side and follow the instructions from there <font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black">Talk</B>  20:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Alternatively just log into your Guild wars account, click Edit Account then tick change password and click next --<font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green">Talk</B>  20:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That links to play nc (for me anyway) <font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B>  20:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

password help
i have to change my password on guildwars i think someone has it
 * Go here to change your in game password. My problem was remembering my long in for PlayNC =/ --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest  21:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

flux matrix
where are the flux matrix in gwen the elusive golemancer?
 * This would have been better asked over on the Flux Matrix article, but basically you will find it sitting on the ground just past the Indestructible Golem once you reach that far into the mission. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 00:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, he shouldn't ask there. If you post here, someone is more likely to respond. That's what this page is for. Anyway, yes, it's in the same room, just look around.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  00:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well to quote from the banner at the top of this page: "Questions about individual articles should be posted directly on that article's talk page.", that seems to be saying if asking a question about "XYZ", then the question should go on the XYZ talk page, but no matter, we like to answer questions where-ever they are! ;) --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 01:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I.E. if you want to talk about flux matrix article, go there. You need help but don't care about the article, come here.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  01:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Gw Having Problems?
GuildWiki has a problem

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.

Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Can't contact the database server: Too many connections (10.8.2.9))

Anyone else getting this? Aggro  Sk8  01:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I did a few days ago. Went away after a couple minutes though --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 01:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to occur around midnight GMT/UTC time (maybe database backup causing the DBsvr to get "too busy" for a short period of time, just a guess). --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 03:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It happens to me a few times every night. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

how do you enter eye of the north??
Is the only place to enter GW:EN in Lions Arch?
 * No, Kamadan and Kainaing <B><font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B>  20:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean: Lion's Arch, Kaineng Center and Kamadan, Jewel of Istan. :P --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 20:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well sorry <B><font color="FF0099">RT </B>| <font color="Black"><B>Talk</B>  20:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Say please. :P --[[Image:OrgXSignature.jpg]] 20:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See Getting started (Eye of the North). --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Price of Vahlen's Vow and Hajkor's Flame
Both req 9. I need to find out how much these are worth EACH. I got both of them once and apparently they were worth about 2-3k each. Is this true?
 * Guildwiki doesn't keep track of prices, GWGuru does. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 00:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Lizzards
is it possible to find any other pet lizzards than a dune lizzard?where?


 * There are no other creatures with Lizard in their name, so: no. Besides: Special:Search --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 23:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Iguana? /epicfail viper? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 23:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Me = really exact :D Besides, he asked for Lizards, not Reptiles --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 00:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Quote: "Iguana is a genus of lizard native to tropical areas of Central and South America and the Caribbean." Prwnd? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 00:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He actually asked for "lizzards." [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Then he was misinformed when he referred to a Dune Lizzard. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 00:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

just a question...
Why has the site been having internal server errors so often lately? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 00:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Occasionally that fellow from the Wikia Tech Team puts up a notice, but I only seem to get the error when there's no notice up. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 00:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I get it all the time =/ --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest  00:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

What went wrong?
I have a female elementalsit from the Pophecies campaign, and i recently did the two quests "The Hero's Challenge" and "Forgotten Wisdom". I did not get 15 attribute points from "Forgotten Wisdom", just from "The Hero's Challenge". Why is that?

Evelyn Magicbound
 * That's weird, someone above posted a similar question. Perhaps there is something wrong. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest  23:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, apparently there is something wrong, and i would liek to know how i can get my 15 attribute points. -Evelyn Magicbound
 * If you're sure that you've done them and you haven't gotten the attributes, then I really don't know how we can help you. If you're sure, all you can really do is contact support or the Anet staff at GWW. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 18:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

guild wars store
I want to purchase things from the store and have all 4 games try to link them to my plaync and type my password and it tells me it's incorrect so I try creating a new on and tell me to check my Internet connection even though I am always logged in on can someone tell me how to get things from the store or what is going on.

why can't i enable post - processing effects?
i got a lunar fortune and it turned out to be the spiritual possesion one but the drunken blur effect never occured. i looked on here to see why and it said to stop the effect you had to disable the post - processing effects option. mine was already disabled but the box is grey and i can't click on it, why?
 * What kind of video card are you using? Some video cards do not support that feature.  Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  17:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

How do i get all the maps to load without having to zone into each one?
 * U can run /image when u start Gw (eks gw.exe/image) Lynx 09:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's -image. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 09:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Command_line This gives details on how to implement -image, as well as other commands. Aggro [[Image:Isk8.png]]  Sk8  09:38, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Show infobox code
How would I make, for example the large box on my userpage, an infobox shrinkable? Like where you see the [show] button to open/collapse something. <font color="Green">X Deity X  23:02, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Question
What Elemental bosses carry the Rodgort Spells? I know that Blisterbark carries one of them.


 * Lok the Mischievous has Invocation. MoR is carried by Geckokaru Earthwind, Singe the Malevolent, Hops Flameinator, Borrguus Blisterbark. This was just a quick look into the What Links Here tool, might've missed one on Invoc. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 19:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Change my user Name
So, when I registered here at guild wiki I used my main char name, as that was all I was tracking. Now I wish to include information on my other char as well. As such I'd like to change my user name to be a more unique name and simply have sub pages for my characters. Other than creating a new acount and moving the pages is there a way to change the user name? or is that the best method? --NurseMyth 06:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the best method, just create a new username, move your pages over and redirect from your old to the new to avoid problems.[[Image:Entrea Sumatae.png|Entrea Sumatae]]<font color="#4682b4">Entrea Sumatae  <font color="#4682b4">[Talk]  23:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Fyren could change the usernames, but it would be much easier to just register a new account and redirect your current to the new one. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="#FF6699">Shadowcrest 00:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm registered as my main too; of course, the legacy of Felix Omni extends years before Guild Wars was created. :o [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 02:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Changing a username requires MediaWiki extensions and the like, there's no way to do it normally as far as I know. If you haven't already, making a new account is the best way to go about it. Or just stick with what you've got, my account's named for my main character too... --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Proph Char in Nightfall Koss?
I just got my Prophecies Charactor to Nightfall and I'd liek start from begining to gt Koss. It starts you in Jewel so I walked to Chahbeck Village. I can't get to place where you first meet Koss and the Mission there won't me start without Koss. It does tell you to gt Koss in Party Search but because I haven't met him in begining Hero's tab doesn't even open. Is it possible to start at begining and get Koss or should I just start with Battle Commendations and skip it?

Thanks, Rcelliston 03:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As a non-NF character, you'll unlock Koss through Battle Preparations. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 03:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Party
so if i go with heroes and henchmen, for example, from temple of the ages, where party size is 8, to gates of kryta, where party size is 6, are the henchman kicked from the party?


 * Yes. Anytime you enter an outpost with a larger party size than it allows, the excess henchmen are kicked from the group. This is always true when you walk through a portal into an outpost. You can keep the larger party size as long as you only go between explorable areas. So you could make it all the way to Eastern Frontier with 8 if you wanted. It is sometimes possible to have a larger party in some outposts when you are taken directly to them without going through a portal. For example, when you complete Venta Cemetery with a party size of 8, you can be sent back to Kamadan with 7 in your party. &mdash;Vendetta411 23:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Kuunavang in pre
I was just helping a friend in pre and noticed that there was someone in Ascalon that had a Kuunavang mini! I've read about characters being able to transfer from Nightfall into pre, but (as far as I know) that mini was only available from the Factions special edition.It got me wondering so I thought I'd ask. Thanks
 * The item can be created by using either the /special or /bonus (Whichever one), this command can be used in presearing.--<font color="Black">Gigathrash 04:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hero's Ascent
Little background. I am a long time PvE player of Guild Wars, but I am getting a burnt out fast on this portion of the game. Don't get me wrong, I love playing Guild Wars, working on titles, making gold and acquiring items to sell trade, but I want more. I have played competitively online first person shooters many times in CAL and TWL (and ranked very well at that) and understand the importance of working together as a team.

I have been looking into the PvP portion of Guild Wars for about the past week. Alliance Battles are fun and all, but seem a little chaotic at times. Random Arenas are just pure chaos with no organization. Team Arenas are good but there is no pay out for winning matches other than getting Balthazar Faction and working on the Gladiator Title. I have no real use for the Balthazar Faction becuase I have all of the skills and weapon upgrades unlocked from playing PvE.

Here is my predicament. I go to Hero's Ascent and say the typical LFG to try to get into a group. I never get any invites and if anyone is ever interested in letting me be in their group they ask me what my rank is. So I tell them that I am new to Hero's Ascent, no rank, am looking to get experience with them, and never hear from them again. Its like I need a rank to play Hero's Ascent, but I can not get a rank until I play. I have never had this much trouble getting into a group to play PvE missions and quests. I even went as far as to leave my Guild (in good standing, so that if I want, I may return) to try to get into a Guild that plays Hero's Ascent. I was in two different Guilds, no more than half and hour each, and got kicked from the for being a noob. Thats why I joined their Guild in the first place, to gain knowledge and experience from them; so they could teach me the ranks.

So my real question is ... How do I go about playing in Hero's Ascent? Unindal 15:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If you wont leave your guild, you either need to look a long time for a lameway party and probably screw up, or you just don't. If you plan to leave your guild (wich will be needed if you want to do something serious, if you have a PvE guild) it will take a good time to find a Guild wich wants newbs (not noobs, but newbs. It's different). --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 16:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * What he is saying is, Pick Up Groups, normaly are rubbish, and not as coordinated as the high level guilds, the high level guilds want players who have experence, from high level guilds, so some contacts with a few leaders/ officers of GvG guilds may be helpful <B>R</B><B>T</B> 16:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's your basic Catch-22. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 16:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Vipermagi, I have left my Guild. I have been in random groups in Hero's Ascent and they always get wiped really fast.  Anyone have any 'Point of Contacts' for Guilds that do Hero's Ascent?  If I were to treat this like other competitive play, usually people get recruited through playing well in matches or scrimmages.  Well, as you can see, I have to first play in them to get my name out there, but can not play until my name is out there.  Another Catch-22? Unindal 16:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * There's a few things you can do to increase your chances of finding a group. First of all, be in the International Districts. That is where nearly all groups form up. When you're spamming your LFG message, make sure you state the build(s) you're wanting or willing to play. Most group leaders will not go to the trouble of inviting someone if they're just spamming "LFG!" Another thing to try is familiarizing yourself with the common builds, the HA metagame. Check observe mode, fansite forums, or ask other more experienced players. Make yourself aware of what groups are looking for. Using common PvE terms like "nuker" or "healer" will indicate to experienced players that you're new to HA and won't help with the invite situation. Pick a build or two you feel comfortable trying and see if you can't find an unranked PUG that will accept you. Be patient in trying to find a group - it's not uncommon to spend half an hour waiting for one, even for the highly ranked players. When you do finally get started, focus first on becoming proficient with your own build and learning the maps/gametypes. From there, you'll want to work on some of the finer points of structured PvP, such as positioning. The better you get at this the faster your fame will go up, and you'll notice you have a better understanding of HA and PvP in general. Without having a guild or friends already doing HA, it's important to leave a good impression on PUGs you join. After a while, if you've played your role well and haven't had any fits of immaturity, you'll start getting whispers inviting you to groups as soon as you log into GW. Having reliable contacts shaves a lot of time off the party search and will make HA more enjoyable for you. &mdash;Vendetta411 16:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The best way to learn about Heroes Ascent is to watch games on observe mode, as most HA guilds won't take on inexperienced players and PUGs are generally either terrible or require rank. Once you have a basic idea of effective team builds then you can either try looking out for PUG groups that are at least vaguely organised and don't have a rank requirement (though this can take a very VERY long time) or set up your own team and ask for players running certain builds. If you don't specify a rank requirement then you can often gain relatively able unranked (or atleast below rank 3) players who are in a similar situation to yourself. However, this still takes time, and HA is probably the least accessible form of PvP as most players have been playing it since GW was released and therefore had an opportunity to gain rank before people started demanding rank 3+. Perhaps you should try getting into a casual GvG guild instead, this is a good way to gain the PvP experience that is necessary in HA anyway and also these guilds often do a bit of HA on the side (and if you don't you can encourage them to try it) - that's how i got my first ranks anyway --<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  17:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of writing a newb's guide to HA but never got around to it. Anyway, one of the first things I can suggest is to play RA. Forget about faction or anything. Just play so you get a better idea of PvP. I've met quite a few people who came into HA new and didn't realize just how much experience they had from RA. There are a lot of bad players and builds in RA and it is a different play style but there are always things you can pick up. If you are trying to find a guild, make sure that the guild knows in advance that you are new. Listen to games on vent even if you aren't in them. This is a great way to learn different roles and how to be better at your role. The best way to learn how to snare is to listen to your team complain about how efficient the other team's snare was. The same applies to PD and quite a few other roles. Whenever you play even stupid meta gimmick junk like thumpway or whatever, try to find a group on vent. Listen and pay attention so you learn more than just the role you are playing. Lots of players only know how to play these things and get a higher rank and are a lost at the next level. Also, make sure you know what things are. Browse the glossary here on wiki (Category:Glossary or the other one) and look for pvp terms that you don't know. If you have questions pop a note on my talk page. I'm pretty experienced in HA. Finally, don't forget that what you are struggling with is something that a lot of new HA players have to go through. Don't lose hope. HA needs fresh blood. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 18:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

anyone else?
Is guildwiki going particularly slow for anyone else today? Or is my computer just having a metaphorical heart attack? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="darkgreen">Shadowcrest 20:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's slow for me too...like it's been for most of '08... &mdash;Vendetta411 20:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Slower, i'll bring it up on IRC <B>R</B><B>T</B> 20:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * OH, so it isn't my computer... My pc is known to deteriorate (Yes, that is the correct spulling) in time. Hard disk is rather broken. Oh well, that's not the point. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 20:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

GW with Vista
I just got a new PC with Vista premium. When I run GW and log into the game to play it is like the graphics are messed up. I dont see my Char and the screen is all messed up. What do I do?


 * Get rid of vista.. its naff [[Image:Babybored.jpg|23px100px]] <font color="#900020">Bored''' 18:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm. You might need to check for updates for your graphics, such as DirectX, etc... since the PC's new, it probably doesn't have many updates on it. Most of vista's bugs/issues should be fixed by now, and I'm sure other people run it fine on vista... reinstall Guild Wars if you can't find another fix, perhaps the problem's in the game client itself. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

On Reverting
When someone reverts incorrect changes or vandalism to a page, they usually put something like "Undo revision 1183642 by Cobalt (Talk) -- Untrue." in the edit summary. I have been wondering for some time where the weird 7 digit number comes from (i.e. "1183642" in this example) I don't see this on page history anywhere nor on the 'compare selected versions' thing. Just wondering --<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  11:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not precisely sure, but I think it has somthing to do with the edits to the page. --[[Image:Warwick sig.JPG]] <font face="vivaldi" size="4">Warwick (Talk)/(Contr. ) 11:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have a look at the differences tab, (history) the URL is with the revision ID (&oldid=RVid), for example, warwick's revision up there was revision 1185707 --<B>R</B><B>T</B> 11:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

builds & weeknesses
what is the best build for a pvp dervish?

what are the weeknesses of the other professions?
 * There is no "best build." The trick is to find something you can play well and use it until you're proficient. For some examples of builds, you ought to try PvXwiki. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 15:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Dire Pet
How do I know if my pet has made it to Dire level? Ty
 * Once it is level 15 type /petname and it will reset name and show evolution. --[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 18:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, for anyone wanting further information on "dire" pets, refer to the Guide to evolving a Dire Pet. --Wolfie [[Image:Wolfie_sig.jpg|19px]] (talk|contribs) 05:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Editing
i have some information on the Demonic Aegis, but I do not know if the mods came with the shield and if the shield consistently has the mods. what should I do?


 * I'm quite sure it doesn't have pre-set mods; I'd say, add any general info you've got to the article, and any unconfirmed info to the talk page. Where it dropped is a good bit of info for the main article, for example; what mods it had, I'd suggest noting them on the talk page, just in case it turns out to be important info later. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Assuming the Demonic Aegis drops like any other shield, its mods wouldn't be constant. The only weapons we list mods on are Collector's weapons and Unique Items. Otherwise it's random. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 04:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Terminating Association with Guildwiki
Exactly how does someone terminate their account with Guildwiki? As I have no further interest in this wiki community I want to close my existing account. I would also prefer my comments to be attributed to an anonymous user, not signed with my name. Will terminating my account do this?
 * You can't delete your account. All you can do is stop contributing. Your contributions are permanently logged, and even if you go around changing the signature, the history of the talk page will show who said what. If you no longer wish to contribute, just stop visiting the site. Avalance 11:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly have you done that makes you want to destroy all association with your account?--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 21:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Been there, done that. See no reason to rinse and repeat.
 * Above refers to trying to speak to Alari. Not my presumed guilt. Don't know and don't care who you are Alari. I'm just not interested.
 * But you were interested enough to post here, and then post here again explaining that your previous post wasn't a sign of weakness? :P--<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  15:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh, I don't get what you just said. I was just curious why you want whatever your name is erased from its contributions, implies you may be guilty of something. --[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 20:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Dryad Bow
Someone offered a new Bow. I made a bad screenshot of it, but still I uploaded it: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:Dryad_Bow.jpg It dropped in >Rragar's Menagerie< endchest. I dunno what to do with this information, but it should be in game updates I think. Hopefully a person with more skills can help creating something, think it is of general interest.
 * Dryad Bow is the exact name of it, or is it Dryad Longbow, Dryad Recurve Bow, etc? If you've got the exact name, there's no article for the bow yet, either yourself or another user can make an article for it. --[[image:GEO-logo.png]]<font color="#237d00"> Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> <font color="#237d00">.cнаt^  04:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Heart of the Shiverpeaks
How do u retrieve the HAMMER OF THE GREAT DWARF? AND How many times do you have 2 kill the CYNDR THE MOUNTAIN HEART for it 2 stay dead?
 * Once you killed Cyndr (you've taken its health all the way down) you can just walk to the hammer and take it. You may have to take down the carapace several times before she is fully dead. &mdash;<font color=#ff44aa>♥ Jedi ♥ Rogue ♥ 00:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Vow of Essence
I believe this was the Nightfall World Preview Event/PvP Event name for Zealous Vow. As Way of the Warrior has a redirect to the current skillname, should one be made for this? I don't want to go straight ahead only to have a deletion tag slapped on it :p ---Jamster--- 18:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If theres already a article as precedent then there shouldn't be a problem adding it.--[[Image:AlariSig.jpg]] 19:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Same with Revitalize. I'll create now. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  20:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you tell me how much kenshi's butterfly knives are worth?
Hello, I was killing some monsters when i came across a pair of keshi's butterfly knives. I kind of need some extra ca$h so im trying to sell them and i ask for an offer but no one gives one. So I was wondering if you guys could tell me howmuch they are worth.

Thank You!
 * I'm sorry, but we don't keep track of prices here, as that is too easily abused. Try GuildWars Guru or some similar site instead--[[Image:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg]] (Talk) (Contr.) 22:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Vanquishing
I just started Vanquishing Cantha. When i got to Zen Daijun i could not vanquish it. When i entered area from Seitung Harbor it would not give me red counter, and there were no enemies there at all, it was clear.I did the Mission from Zen Daijun and got masters. Now How do i Vanquish the area?
 * Did you have a quest that prevented you from doing something? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest  19:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * From the Zen Daijun article: "For Factions characters (and Factions characters only), there is an exploit regarding clearing this area in hard mode for the Vanquisher title progress. Your character must complete the An Unwelcome Guest quest first and enter the area from Seitung Harbor. If you fulfill the conditions, no enemies will spawn, allowing you to just kill a Tiger or a Crane to immediately get the area vanquished. Note that all player characters in the party must all be Factions characters and have all completed the aforementioned quest." - I think that may be your answer --<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  19:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Re-Unlocking
I've just experienced a very strange bug. I created a PvP monk to go farm some glad points in RA, as i have done countless times before. First I loaded my skills template and equipment templates as normal, then i hit J to set my other weapon sets. Normally my monk energy sets go 40->52->77->28. However after i set them this time i noticed that they went 40->52->67->28. I checked my equipment and the insciptions for the off-hand and wand on weapon set 3 (my 15 set) were only giving me +10/-1. I thought Anet had nerfed the inscriptions or something, but it wasnt listed on any updates. So then i checked at the priest on unlock items and it said that i had only got the +10/-1 insciptions unlocked. not the +15/-1 i normally use. This wasnt' a huge problem as i had 2k balthazar faction on me with which to unlock them, but i already had these unlocked. I am not mad, i have been playing Guild Wars for over 2 years and have been using +15/-1 energy sets on my PvP monks for ages. I had to spend 2k faction re-unlocking something i should already of had. I have often thought before that "ooh, i was sure i've used that skill before" or "i thought i had that mod unlocked already" and just put it down to my own forgetfulness, but theres no way it's premature senility this time. I was wondering if anyone else has ever experienced similar problems or if this is a known bug and there are ways to avoid having to re-unlock stuff in future? Thanks --<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  20:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That happened to me as well, but it was at least half a year ago- possibly more. [[Image:Felix_Omni_Signature.png]] 20:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I had this once. Apparently it just happens. Lemme find where I posted my comment about it... [[Image:Jamster Sig.jpg|19px]] ---Jamster--- 20:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I had to unlock Expel Hexes 4 times >.> No known reason to me, tho. They just hate you I suppose :P --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]]-- (s)talkpage 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, atleast it's not just me then. It's probably just another cog in the well oiled machine that is Anet's global conspiracy. Other elements of which can be seen in the RA team allocating algorithm and the bots that know your name --<B><font color="Blue">Cobalt </B>| <font color="Green"><B>Talk</B>  20:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)