User talk:Dr ishmael/Archive 6

Mover-Shaker Bot
If you check the move log (or perhaps RC, depending when you read this), you'll see that Balistic Pve is moving user's pages to their new names with the GW- prefix. I know that you could get a list of all these by looking at the contribs of the Move page script, not sure about other pages in their userspace though. Anyway, I think it'd be a lot faster to make it a bot task. One reason is the "move throttle" - the bot avoids that because it has sysop status. :p Also, it could clean up after itself by them deleting the redirects, again because it has sysop status. Lastly for bonus points, maybe it could fix all the links to those pages so that we don't add to the wanted pages unnecessarily.

I have this strange feeling that normally I should use the GW:BOT page, but oh well, I don't want to have to repeat myself in two places. (T/C) 22:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well anyways, until that happens I'll keep moving them. I've tagged most of them with delete, so hop on to it. --Balistic Pve (T/C/E) 22:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm just a bit busy, and I'd have to check what links here and fix the links, etc. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 22:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * o i c, nvm --Balistic Pve (T/C/E) 23:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That would be fairly difficult to set up, compared to the other bots I've done. It would have to first get the list of users that were renamed (where is that list, anyway?), then check Special:Prefixindex to get the list of all pages in their userspace, then for each page move it, update links to it, and delete the redirect.  I could do it, I'm just not sure if I'd have the time or the inclination right now.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 02:00, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Would you do it if you had a list of pages that need to be moved? --◄mendel► 02:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I know that I/we ask a lot from you, so I'm sorry if it seems I'm just piling more work on you when you already have lots of other stuff to do as well. (Like RL.) But it really is appreciated. :) I think it would take about 5 days to finish it manually, since we're not even done with the A's yet. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 03:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, let's set priorities, then. Which would you rather be taken care of first: build redlinks or GW-userpage moves?  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 04:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * To give a PHB response: Both. And while you're at it, get Griffin's permission. :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 04:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Griffin? Narf?  o.O  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 05:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Needs more Dilbert imo [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 06:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure why this isn't a project (or is it?), but I've got a list of GW-users, minus the ones that have TOC entries here, and their un-GW-'d pages. Now I'm checking those for redirects. --◄mendel► 15:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * To the best of my programming ability, the pages that should be bot-moved are listed on User:Dr ishmael/GW-pages-tobemoved.txt. I recommend against deleting the redirects (like Wizboy and Entropy have done) because you never know what external links or redirects may yet exist, and it doesn't hurt to keep them. --◄mendel► 16:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well if all we're doing now is moving, as mendel suggests, I've got a script prepared for that already. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:31, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Doing some checking before I run this, and I've discovered that for a lot of the pages listed, a GW-page already exists. Some of them are simply a redirect at one or the other location, but some of them, like User talk:Hellbringer/Archive 1 and User talk:GW-Hellbringer/Archive 1, have different content on the two pages.  What do we do with them?  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 16:57, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Argh, I ought to write my plans down - all I checked are the move sources, not the destinations. I think we need to do those manually. --◄mendel► 17:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And if the GW-page is a redirect, do we swap the pages (move the original over the redirect, and leave the redirect at the original), or leave them as-is? &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 17:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I appended the list with the possible conflicts. &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 18:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say leave redirects as-is, because that's obviously the wish of the user, and unless the original owner of the account shows up (unlikely), it's not a problem. --◄mendel► 18:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The difficulty is not to move half a userspace. I think the goal of this exercise should be to bring all of a user's pages and subpages together in one spot (the move script missed subpages). If that spot is in User: or in GW-User: doesn't matter much. --◄mendel► 18:29, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

About GW.Dat
I've read serveral posts by you stating that you have extracted gw.dat. I'm wondering if you can point me in the right direction on how to get tools on it? Because I'm thinking of helping the Chinese GW (since NCTaiwan was abondoned) to get ways to update their info. Please contact me at willy_sunny(at)rofantasy.com, or leave the info here, thanks. 140.116.116.76 05:24, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Be warned, it requires some mad haxxor skillz. --Alf&#39;s Hitman 05:34, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * May I point you here. You're not the first one to ask for a tour of the Doctor's laboratory. :) [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 05:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I've explained the three tools I use at the link Entropy posted. Be aware, though, that you can't get all game data out of GW.dat or by ripping in-game textures.  The only text that can easily be extracted is skill names/descriptions, item names, and some other miscellaneous stuff.  Quest/mission dialogue and everything else is encoded with a method that I haven't figured out yet.  The only textures that are really useful are skill icons and inventory icons, and for the latter, you have to have actually seen the item in-game - the   option does not download inventory icons for some reason.
 * If you have any other questions, just ask. :) &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 14:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

What are you blowing up now?
I hope it doesn't result in a catastrophic failure that brings down the site. But if you DO learn how to make a catastrophic failure, you could probably get a list of sites that need to be obliterated if you asked :P --Gimmethegepgun 20:41, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, he's just fiddling with calculations for the Lucky title tracks. The template just *looks* deadly and diabolical. However if you make a few changes here and there, it will actually cause...oh, but that's a secret. :)
 * By the way, 1 / ∞ > 0. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] (T/C) 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but limx&rarr;∞ 1 / x = 0 --Gimmethegepgun 20:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Within the confines of Wikia, yeah, it's just a harmless template to calculate the lockpicks you need to max your Treasure/Lucky titles (which only works to 8 iterations, unfortunately). Outside of Wikia and the silly "Expansion depth limits", it's... well, let's just say it's not a template you'd like to meet in an alley on a dark night.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 20:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I kinda peeked at it and my head nearly exploded from all the red error messages --Gimmethegepgun 20:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cleaned it up a bit (6,085 --> 3,626 bytes), and now it works to 9 recursions. Which means you need at least 4 ranks between the two titles to start using it.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 21:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)