Talk: Admin noticeboard

==Redundancy==
See [[GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive_14#Admin_noticeboard_and_requests_for_comment|GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal#Admin_noticeboard_and_requests_for_comment]]. --- [[User:Barek|Barek]] <small>([[User talk:Barek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barek|contribs]])</small> - 16:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

:The topic that Barek refers to can only be found in the history [{{fullurl:GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal|oldid=1046908#Admin_noticeboard_and_requests_for_comment}} here], it is not useful or possible to comment upon the Admin noticeboard there instead of here (but it was at the time that Barek wrote the comment), yet Viper feels that it is somehow important that this totally useless, misleading comment be left standing in its untainted glory. So be it, then. [[User:M.mendel|mendel]] 12:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

::The fact is, we normally forbid people to remove comments, and as such I have reverted you. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- <small>[[User:Vipermagi|(s)talkpage]]</small> 12:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact is, admins normally use common sense. [[User:M.mendel|mendel]] 12:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

::::I was using common sense; Treat one the same as the other. Point is: Don't remove comments, however wrong and old they are. Exceptions are bad, cause you can treat everything as an exception, and there'll eventually be no limit to deleting content, because it's an exception. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- <small>[[User:Vipermagi|(s)talkpage]]</small> 12:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Use your heads and just archive it. --[[Special:Contributions/90.196.43.141|90.196.43.141]] 12:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::Archive 240 bytes...? O_o' --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- <small>[[User:Vipermagi|(s)talkpage]]</small> 12:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::It is not in any way useful to have an archive of that comment beyond what the wiki archives in its history anyway. [[User:M.mendel|mendel]] 12:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

You may never remove the comments of others, unless they are on your own talkpage or they are obviously spam/trolling/vandalism/etc. It does not matter how useless the comment may be. Besides, any intelligent user would see that the post was dated from October 2007. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] ([[User_talk:Entropy|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Entropy|C]]) 23:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

:Why? ''(The intelligent user saw it and wondered what it might mean. Researched the issue, even, to the point of digging into the history of one of the most modified pages on the wiki. Uselessly, as it turned out. Tried to spare other intelligent users the same fate by removing what is essentially not a coment by nature, but a [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Soft_redirect Soft Redirect]. It seems that's a no-no. I'll take care to post stuff to talk pages only that I don't want to see deleted - I bet it's going to work better than to post it to articles.)'' [[User:M.mendel|mendel]] 00:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

::Don't get trite with me. This is the way we have always done things here. The history of a page will preserve all comments, but removing something simply because it is inconvenient and not because the removal is necessary, contravenes the spirit of our copyright license. This is why we are not allowed to delete vast amounts of spam posts on talk pages, useless and unsightly and even possibly misleading as they may be. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] ([[User_talk:Entropy|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Entropy|C]]) 00:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== Archive? ==

Is there an archive for the Admin noticeboard? [[User:M.mendel|mendel]] 00:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, the link is at the top of the page but kind of not very visible. [[GuildWiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved]]. Old, old issues get moved there. Dunno about the talkpage, since no one ever commented here until just recently. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] ([[User_talk:Entropy|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Entropy|C]]) 00:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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== removing comment ==

Hi.

The main reason Ariyen was [http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User_talk:Ariyen#Zzz permanently banned on GW2W] was that her behaviour towards other users was deemed excessively inappropriate. One example of this being her PMing me [http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User_talk:Ariyen#GW_Support_Forum on the GW Support Forum] with a paranoid and delusional message in which she demands I revert myself, and is incoherent in general. She was, needless to say, quickly put on my Ignore.

Following that perma ban, [http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Ariyen/User_talk_archive#abusing_the_e-mail_feature she abused the GW@W e-mail feature] to once again pursue a dialogue regarding GW2W. A [[User:El_Nazgir|local Mursaat]] who happened to be in the area [http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Ariyen/User_talk_archive#Hey_there gave her a 24 hour ban]. As I was irritated she had not yet gotten the message and vaguely concerned about how ridiculous her actions were becoming, I [http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Sannse/User_talk_archive#It.27s_like_living_in_a_movie contacted Wikia] both on-wiki and by e-mail. Sannse responded to both, reassuring me that she would handle the matter. Though it likely goes without saying, Ariyen wound up on my inbox blacklist.

Based on Ariyen's history in the last month alone of contacting me with ridiculous messages (e-mailing me with "You can't ignore me here" being a highlight), I will continue to remove all messages by her account and IP that I find on my talk page. Irrespective of the subject, or who she is addressing, I have put up with more than enough bullshit from this person. That is not something I am willing to negotiate on.

Talk pages are partially owned by the user, partially by the community as a means to contact the user. If she wishes to contact me, she can go through an Administrator. While I understand the her actions (and perma bans) on other Guild Wars related wikis cannot be used as reason to ban her here, I do believe that there is sufficient reasoning here to allow me to decide I will not have this person within a mile of my talk page. She has redefined the word harassment, and while she may have been the one to start it, I will end it.

I am willing to undertake reasonable actions to further prove my claims, if necessary. Upon request I will send her e-mail to me and / or my communication with Wikia Staff and their response to <u>one admin</u> as a gesture of good faith. Regards, [[File:User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png|19px]] [[User:A_F_K_When_Needed|<span style="color:#000000; text-shadow: black 0 4px 4px;">A F K When Needed</span>]] 11:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:The User talk is in the userspace, even if it is talk. As such it is my opinion that AFK was justified in his removal of Ariyen's comments. If he so wishes to, he may freely remove comments in his userspace, regardless of justification. Harassment or not, it is his choice in who he talks to, and who he does not. I discourage editing of comments, even for clarity without the express permission of the original author, and removing the comment entirely is the best way to deal with a comment that the person does not want on their page. We have histories on pages for a reason. If the original comment was somehow important, it can be referenced. To all with the power: Hiding edit history is a very powerful tool, and should ONLY be used for purging external links to viruses, worms, trojans, personal information, or explicit content for the protection of all users. As such I support AFK's decision, and ask that Ariyen also respect it and stop trying to contact him on this wiki.--Łô√ë [[Image:Gigathrash_sig_G.jpg]][[User:Gigathrash|<font color="Black">îğá†ħŕášħ</font>]] 12:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
::Oh, come on comment was for arnout. Giga, read my talk, before listening to someone that is bringing other '''WIKI''' drama to here. I think that should be a ban personally, cause you're not suppose to bring other wiki drama to here. It was my fault on gw wikia, but still it's stupid. And he's not asked me specifically or straight forward as I did on gw2w to begin with to leave me alone and not follow me to all of the talks there starting drama. Settle this as I've been helping the community with content and not start or bring personal drama over to here. I '''DO''' know better. [[Special:Contributions/72.148.31.114|72.148.31.114]] 18:23, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Other wiki drama? I've had to ignore / blacklist you on a Support Forum, an e-mail inbox, you've been banned on two wikis... that's not "drama from some wiki", that's harassment. The entire problem - as I tried to demonstrate above - is that it is <u>''not''</u> confined to one wiki. While it should have been, you brought it up on multiple other mediums. Your response is both misleading and inaccurate. [[File:User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png|19px]] [[User:A_F_K_When_Needed|<span style="color:#000000; text-shadow: black 0 4px 4px;">A F K When Needed</span>]] 18:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

:::: Drop it, both of you.  Ariyen, if AFK feels like he's being harassed by you, do you really think he's going to respond well to your arguments here?  &mdash;[[User:Dr_ishmael|Dr Ishmael]] [[File:Diablo_the_chicken.gif|link=User_talk:Dr_ishmael]] 19:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:::: I'm sorry, I should probably make it clear that this is a rhetorical question.  No one should respond to it, please.  &mdash;[[User:Dr_ishmael|Dr Ishmael]] [[File:Diablo_the_chicken.gif|link=User_talk:Dr_ishmael]] 19:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)