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Everyone I speak to remembers this guy as a regular Kurzick guard when they took their first chars through Factions, the first time they completed Arborstone (mission). It has led to a LOT of discussion on alliance chat channels about when exactly they changed him. Does anyone know when, or why? --Sunyavadin 05:43, 4 August, 2006

A Juggernaut guard looks more... guardy? -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 23:54, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
I'd certainly be less inclined to mess with him... --Sunyavadin 13:30, 4 August 2006 (BST)
As for the "why": From his dialogue ("I used to be human, like you, but I sacrificed my flesh to become an immortal defender of the forest...") I would say that he was always meant to be a Juggernaut and changing him would just have been a bugfix. And yes, I am sure that he said that when he wasn't a Juggernaut yet. ;) --84-175 (talk) 08:02, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
So it has nothing to do with the people attempting to become juggernaut later on in the story line? Maybe it appears as a human to newbies but those whom have completed the mission its different? Or maybe im just going insane. -- 10:12, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
Nope, when my newest character got there after Arborstone this week he already looked like a Juggernaut. I can confirm that he had the same dialogue but looked human back when Factions was released. The image is from June 26th, so they corrected his model within two months of the launch. -- Gordon Ecker 02:08, 9 September 2006 (CDT)

How do you figure he's a Warrior? And uses Aura o' the Juggy? ShidoSig moebius2.gif 16:52, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Good point... I assume it is just inferred from his species, but can we really prove he is a Warrior or that he has access to Aura of the Juggernaut? Defiant Elements (talk ~ contribs) 03:37, 29 March 2007 (CDT)