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::Yup. people either go into battle with massive damage potential, ruin his [[Meditation of the Reaper]] and have something like SV, SS, empathy, insidious parasite, or simply a few [[Celestial Storm]]s and have him killed. In comparison, it can go badly if monks get banished and/or not enough dps is achieved, his [[Impossible Odds]] is used when everyone is grouped without anything damaging him per hit or when too many are dead/banished and he decides to use his meditation. the trick isnt just consistency and stability, but an element of shear power and exploitation of his rediculous ability, which, with the community having a long time and a variety of skills, have been able to discover - [[User:Xavier Bowstorm|Xav]] 19:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 
::Yup. people either go into battle with massive damage potential, ruin his [[Meditation of the Reaper]] and have something like SV, SS, empathy, insidious parasite, or simply a few [[Celestial Storm]]s and have him killed. In comparison, it can go badly if monks get banished and/or not enough dps is achieved, his [[Impossible Odds]] is used when everyone is grouped without anything damaging him per hit or when too many are dead/banished and he decides to use his meditation. the trick isnt just consistency and stability, but an element of shear power and exploitation of his rediculous ability, which, with the community having a long time and a variety of skills, have been able to discover - [[User:Xavier Bowstorm|Xav]] 19:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
   
I Had over 40 minutes of fighting with Shiro in this mission and can still not kill him but neither can he kill any of my heroes or henchmen. I finally had to call it quits and map back to town. No DP at all as he could not kill anyone. Me R/E close combat/pet build, 2 Hero monks with WoH, aegis, protect spirit and such, A MM necro with flesh golem, and both warrior and mesmer heroes. I can get him down to 200 or so life but then he just regains it with Meditation. We do too much damage to let meditation last long enough to hurt us, and enough healing when it and impossible odds hurts, to negate damage from it. I literally sat in the mission for over a half hour just beating him, killing bound spirits, beating him, rinse and repeat. Every time he would get close enough to kill mediation would end doing 2-300 damage to my party and healing him back to half health. It is annoying. I do not want to redo builds just for a 2 minute fight (supposed anyways). I think that I will have to sub one of those mesmers for a necro and one of the warriors for an assassin and see how that goes. I have full confidence that the builds described here will work but I want to try the easy approach first and I will get back to you on that. <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[GuildWiki:Sign your comments|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User talk:66.194.187.100|66.194.187.100]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.194.187.100|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->
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I Had over 40 minutes of fighting with Shiro in this mission and can still not kill him but neither can he kill any of my heroes or henchmen. I finally had to call it quits and map back to town. No DP at all as he could not kill anyone. Me R/E close combat/pet build, 2 Hero monks with WoH, aegis, protect spirit and such, A MM necro with flesh golem, and both warrior and mesmer heroes. I can get him down to 200 or so life but then he just regains it with Meditation. We do too much damage to let meditation last long enough to hurt us, and enough healing when it and impossible odds hurts, to negate damage from it. I literally sat in the mission for over a half hour just beating him, killing bound spirits, beating him, rinse and repeat. Every time he would get close enough to kill mediation would end doing 2-300 damage to my party and healing him back to half health. It is annoying. I do not want to redo builds just for a 2 minute fight (supposed anyways). I think that I will have to sub one of those mesmers for a necro and one of the warriors for an assassin and see how that goes. I have full confidence that the builds described here will work but I want to try the easy approach first and I will get back to you on that.
 
:Wait... MM? Why? You only get one Shiro'ken every 40 seconds, there's no way minions would be useful in this mission. Swap that for [[Spoil Victor]]/[[Spiteful Spirit]], and that's probably the only change you'll need to make. &mdash;[[User:Dr_ishmael|Dr Ishmael]] [[Image:Diablo_the_chicken.gif]] 00:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 
   
 
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