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I completed Rox with a simple trappers team, Dust traps around Salma helped protect her, while it also helped to minimize the damage output of Rox.

For both Nox and Pox i teamed up with a monk and two melee classes. Broad head arrow kept the boss dazed while the mellee damage interupted every single spell. The other 4 proffesions in the party are arbitrary.

Alleycat! 03:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

The last page of the book resembles The Falls. I would expect that that is the place to find the secret liar. Im gonna check it out. Alleycat! 04:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, the loading screen for the tutorial is that of the Maguuma Jungle. Also of interest is his little clue, "stop when it hurts". Check through environmental effects and see if you can find one that should be in a reasonable location. Powersurge360 04:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Falling hurts ^^ Alleycat! 04:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Ventari's Refuge is full of golems and they are advertising runs to the secret liar. I think i nailed it.Alleycat! 04:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
IN YOUR FACE FELIX!!! lol Powersurge360 04:17, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
rox was such a push over compared to the other two >.>
Noooo kidding... That one in Nightfall was monstrous to try to h/h through. In hindsight, it'd probably be better to bring a mesmer hero and lock him as his target. Powersurge360 07:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Invader Zim!!!![]

Oh man, G.O.X. is G.I.R.!!! That's hilarious Powersurge360 04:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

G.O.X is a Mon-Goose Dog Alleycat! 04:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Check it, holmes. Powersurge360 05:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
How can I not reply to this topic? I've seen very few quotes, but they don't seem particularly GIR like. M.O.X. page may explain the true reference, but [1]. Then again, Zinn... the two n's look a lot like another letter. With that being his "masters" name, I'd almost be surprised if he doesn't have any GIR quotes. --Mooseyfate 06:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
GOX is like GIR, not MOX. When asked about what the G is for in both GOX and GIR, he replies with "I don't know". GIR has said randomly that he wants to be a mongoose. GIR's disguise is a dog. Zinn is similar to Zim, in name and stature. The phrase "Is it supposed to be stupid? It's not stupid, it's very advanced" is used in the series and in the end bit of the quest. Frankly, how can it NOT be a reference? Powersurge360 06:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Oops, yeah. --Mooseyfate 13:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
All sorts of dialog from the Golem User Manual is very reminiscent of Zim as well. Talking about his own greatness/genius/reputation, his secret underground lair, pea-sized intellect, etc. Not proof on it's own, just more support for your claim. --Mooseyfate 13:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

eotn required?[]

how come eotn is required for this mission? from what ive read, you only need the three campaigns? 10:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Because the Golem User Manual takes you to meet the Image of Zinn in the Hero Tutorial area by Boreal Station which is where you get it? --heurist 12:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Location and route to Zinn's Lair[]

I've uploaded a screenshot of the path and location to the lair through The Falls. Someone with more wiki knowlegde can insert it into the article, if neccessary. Image can be found here: Route Zinn Lair.jpg Nexceven 13:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have added your map to the article. --heurist 14:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Split the Walkthrough?[]

I kind of think that we should split the walkthrough so that the information for defeating each golem can be found on Deactivating XXX, and put a note that says "N.O.X. can be found in Resplendant Makuu. For details on how to defeat him, see Deactivating N.O.X." or something similar. Thoughts? Powersurge360 01:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Good plan. They are, after all, separate quests.Entrea SumataeEntrea [Talk] 01:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

if he's with us ?[]

Once you are in the Zinn's Lair (underground), there are no more foes if at least one M.O.X. is in your party.

I was not able to enter without M.O.X in party. (Forgot to bring him the first time) — TulipVorlax 03:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I hereby Confirm that if M.O.X is dead but still in your party you are able to enter the lair ( this may have been a glich though) - Ecofudge -

Confirmed as working, so you can run yourself.--Gigathrash sig G.jpgìğá†ħŕášħ 06:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
You must personally have MOX among your heroes in order to initiate the entry into the lair, though - my wife and I went out there together, I had MOX as one of my heroes, she didn't. When we "spoke" with The Falls, I got the option to enter the lair, but she didn't. It still transported the entire party when I accepted, of course. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 06:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Reward Dialogue[]

Golem Sentry: *IN-TRU-DER AL-ERT*
Zinn: Ah, you made it. Good. My intelligence network already informed me of the successful completion of your assignment.
Zinn: I'm terribly relieved. I was horrified about that what might have happened... to my reputation. Come Along. Get your reward. You earned it.
Zinn: Why, look who's here!
Players Character: What does the "G" stand for?
Players Character: Is it supposed to be stupid?
Zinn: G.O.X. isn't stupid! It's very advanced!
Zinn: One day G.O.X. you will be just like M.O.X. Isn't that right, G.O.X.?
Zinn: No, no!. Just like M.O.X.
Zinn: Oh, never mind.

Ne33us 14:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Need to do quests?[]

doy ou need to do the other quests if you already know where the lair is?--"Burn Baby Burn!".jpgFireTock 00:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, yeah, because you don't have the crystals. — Abedeus Abedeussig.jpg 15:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

After quest, should not Zinn want revenge on 'fellow' that tricked him?[]

After defeating what the fellow wanted Zinn to build--the golems, should there not be some quest to get revenge for Zinn for being tricked? GW-Susan 19:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Shh, that's where the next new Hero comes in. No alpha leaks :P Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 19:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Linsey confirmed that the identity of the "fellow" will be revealed in future quests to come.

We're now a year further and still no idea who the fellow was. :( GaiaGaia sig.png 22:03, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

And now we're yet another year further, but we'll surely find out soon! Guild Wars Beyond, anyone? --Naoroji 15:46, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
Well, Zinn's Trial is probably the first step to another quest about him.--TalkpageEl_Nazgir 16:48, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Heroes and XP?[]

When I finished the quests and got the reward last night I took along a couple of low-level heroes to level them up, but neither one gained any XP at all. Has anyone else experienced this? Perrin42 00:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Could be a bug, most quests and missions share XP with Heroes... Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 02:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
What level were your heroes? Felix Omni Signature.png 02:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I took two level 17 heroes along with M.O.X. Neither moved up in level as well. I think this quest, like the festival quests do not give exp to the heroes.Bikeboy854 18:46, 21 February 2009 (UTC)