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no dates for Easter, Thanksgiving?[]

is there a reason that Easter and Thanksgiving do not follow the same pattern as the other holidays? AFAIK, the only difference is that they don't fall on the same dates each year. (Then again, neither do GW events, which always aim for weekends.) If there's no objection, I'll add them shortly.

On a related note, should St Pat's Day be included? any other holidays? Thanks   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 18:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Alternative "other" display[]

What about one of the following two presentations instead of the current display?

  • Two Rows for Recurring/One-time:
  • Split row for recurring/one-time:

I've also decreased the size of the label column.  —Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm more a fan of the upper table, but they both look nicer than what's already there and I agree that St. Patty's day should be included in the recurring category. My only other thought is to maybe place them in Chronological order of occurrence throughout the year versus when they were first incorporated into the game. Just a thought. → Qelsi710 Qelsi Qompas sig.png 03:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
I didn't have time to comment before, but bold+italic text at that size is ugly; one or the other would be fine, but not both. And remove the colon: now that you've removed them to separate header cells, it no longer makes sense to have a colon. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:16, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

CNY is not the same as the recurring events[]

I disagree with putting CNY with Easter etc — the details of this holiday are much more involved.

  • Every holiday has evolved since introduced.
  • Each has had issues that are specific to a particular year.
  • The major holidays have had significant changes in one or more years.

→ We should either have a single article for every major holiday or, to be consistent, have articles for each year for the majors (but not the minors). (Personally, I don't see the need to maintain the level of detail for historical events, so single article seems sensible to me. I just think CNY has more in common with Wintersday/Dragonfest/etc than it does with the minor holidays, e.g. special treats.)  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:00, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that if we list CNY as it was, with each year printed out as a link, all those links are just redirects to the same article, which is pointless. Since there's only the one article, then it only needs one link, and there's no point in listing the individual years.
I would support creating individual articles for each CNY, but I thought that conversation had already occurred somewhere and we went with the single-article approach. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 21:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
I missed that convo, but I'm saying we should be consistent: either all (major) holidays get multi-year articles or none. Right now, we've relegated CNY to minor status. (I understand why it was done, I think there are some unforeseen consequences, though.)  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
I prefer it like Halloween and Christmas as there have been at least two years or so of differences. I know the 09, 10, and 11 have been mostly the same, but the way it is now. Is basically assuming the rest of them will be like that. I'd rather cut out the speculation and assumption and leave it the way it was. Ariyen 22:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Then one of you go write up the individual articles. I don't have time. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 05:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Show me where anyone is asking you to write another article? We're discussing how to treat major/minor holidays and how to deal with the fact that there are differences from year-to-year.
If I didn't care what the consensus was about how to handle this, I would simply have reverted your edit which, imo, unilaterally turned CNY into a minor holiday (at least, in the navbox). There might have been consensus about how many articles we have for CNY, but that's not the issue I raised. I am interested in other people's opinions and really don't like spending time creating new articles or editing old ones unless there's agreement that that's the direction we agree upon.
Finally, the IP and I shouldn't be expected to write an article in order to have an opinion about whether one should exist. It's unnecessarily combative of you to suggest that your time has anything to do with deciding what's best for the wiki for this particular situation. I recognize that you contribute more to this wiki than just about anyone (or perhaps more so than anyone) and that you cannot be expected to do everything. Then again, no one suggested that you do any of the work to resolve this issue.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 06:57, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
IP was me, but Ish, I'm not expecting you to do those articles. I'm not asking that. There are some articles out there of the 08, etc. that I feel does deserve links to. Perhaps the others created to "document" what was there, instead of redirects. And the main page to only show the new... As the dates, etc. change as well as a few things that have changed in a few of them. I think it'd been nice. Also, if I knew how to do the every 3 hour type box up to help our users. I'd do that.. but I don't know how... I like going back and referencing what had happened, etc. to kind of see the changes, etc. That's just my opinion. Ariyen 07:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
It does seem odd to have Canthan New Year as a minor holiday. After all, the appearance of a few towns gets changed. If Dragon Festival is a major holiday, then CNY should be one too, in my opinion. Jink 19:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Wintersday in July[]

Just curious as to why this special event never got included? Is it not special enough, do we not love it enough? :P I know it's (basically) Wintersday info repeated but still... Mauirixxx 01:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

It's just the same thing every year, so I added it to the "Recurring" section. There's a merge proposal on Wintersday in July to get rid of the year-specific articles, which I definitely support. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)