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E/any Dual Attunement Nuker

if you look at the talk page of that build, you'll see it has been deleted once before. please be sure your new build can stand to the pre-existing comments. --Honorable Sarah Honorable Icon.gif 13:45, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted the article. I'm pretty sure my build can stand to those comments, though - it's not for AB, I don't use Mark of Rodgort, and it's sufficiently different from the Heavy Nuker (IMO). Dr ishmael 13:54, 22 August 2006 (CDT)


Hi. When editing your user page, please use the 'minor edit' check box. Also, you might want to use the 'Show preview' button more often. --Gem-icon-sm.png (talk) 19:41, 25 August 2006 (CDT)


Just looking at your signature bit in your sandbox. I've just been playing around with mine. You know you can put the {{subst:...}} bit in the "Signature" bit of your preferences, then just use ~~~~, which will add the date automatically? You probably already know but just in case, will save you some time on talk pages :) —Biscuits (talk Biscuit.png contribs) 11:26, 21 November 2006 (CST)

I had wondered about that. Thanks for the tip. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif (talk|contribs) 11:41, 21 November 2006 (CST)

dont add quests to acqu

it was decided to not add quest data to the acquisition sections on skill pages. "You're All Alone!" Magehunter's Smash Xeon 20:36, 27 December 2006 (CST)

Category:Collectors format standardization campaign

While doing research for my User:Dr ishmael/Collectable trading article, I noticed that a lot of the collector and collectable drops pages had inconsistencies and even errors in both their content and formatting. I corrected some of these, but only where it was obvious; I know there are still a lot of problems.

Since the collectors already have a style guide, I'm going to work on them first - I plan to find them all in-game and verify all their info, as well, since I already noticed a few that were incorrect. When that's done, I'll write a style guide for collectable drops (adding it to the Items style guide) and work them over as well. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif (talk|contribs) 12:10, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Cheers, and you work too hard. :) Entropy 15:45, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Clarifying 1RV misunderstanding

"Reverting" a page is to restore it to its previous state. Therefore, if you make a new change to a text, and this change is reverted, it does not constitute a breach of the 1RV policy. mikkel 15:04, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

Right: If you find your edit was reverted, take your case to the article's talk page. (from GW:1RV) You made the revert, so I can't revert back. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif (talk|contribs) 15:30, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

Re: Disambiguation

Click-ity click! --Lazyeyes.pngIshmaeel .ping( ) ; .peek( ); 10:21, 20 April 2007 (CDT)


check the categories before you remove a stub. -- Xeon 10:25, 9 May 2007 (CDT)


Hi, on the vanquisher page, stating that you are 'completing' a quest seems redundant since that tab is only for quests that affect the number of enemies... hence while the quest is active and whether or not you are completing it. It should be in a similar format as all the other quests. Rcollins779x 18:32, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Greetings. I noticed you reverted a change someone made on the Vanquisher page regarding Bukdek Byway. Whoever changed this to one is correct. If you have both The Drunken Master and Chasing Zenmai active, all you need to do to vanquish this zone is to defeat the Drunken Master. I have verified this, as it is how I vanquisher Bukdek. --Flask Of Firewater small.jpg Ale 13:19, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

Oh, I get it now. The way they made the edit didn't make any sense because they didn't make it link correctly to the quests. I'd forgotten about the "The Drunken Master" quest, and thought they were just being funny making it say "Zenmai and Drunken Master".
Still, as that is a special case, it should be mentioned in a footnote like the one for Zen Daijun. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 17:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
I agree, a footnote is probably best, but your Summary note said "Huh?" so I wasn't sure if you knew about the special case. Cheers. --Flask Of Firewater small.jpg Ale 18:08, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

Sortability at Collecting for fun and profit

Please see my response at that talk page, and thank you for commenting. 15:42, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

EotN and Collectors

I was wondering if you were working on another section to the "Collecting for fun and profit", for EotN collectors. Since all of EotN is "L20 high end campaign", all the collector items are by default maxed. However, I was not sure if any/all gave profit for collecting (since I don't actually have it yet >.>) unique collectables other than the Armors are available, so for me the only reason I have to keep and collect EotN drops is if I can make some cash profit. Otherwise I would just trade in stuff from other campaigns, since that's easier... Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 00:43, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

Nope, Anet made sure there was absolutely no profit in collectibles this time. All collectibles are worth at least 20g to the merchant, all collectors want at least 5 of an item, and all collector items are only worth 100g. The best you can do is break even. Unless some odd item like Aged Dwarven Ale has a really high market value for some reason, there won't be an EotN section to that article. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 11:43, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
Aww, damn. Well thanks for checking. I can finally go sell off all those collectable drops I got in the Sneak Preview Weekend. >.> (except for Superb Charr Carving, lol) Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 11:45, 16 September 2007 (CDT)


Hello. GuildWiki has recently updated its interwiki map. This means that w: now points to Wikia instead of to Wikipedia. You have one of these links on your user page. You can change it to point at Wikipedia by changing the w: to wikipedia:. Angela 07:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


Just want to thank you for the effort you put into the weapon QRs. Unfortunately, the only thing I have to offer in appreciation is Lyssa's Cookie of Bemusement. Even though what you didn't isn't funny at all (in fact, it's very serious), I hope you'd accept a cookie as a token of my appreciation. -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 19:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Considering how I have absolutely nothing to do at work right now - and may not for a while, we've been slow all month - my brain was eventually going to melt out my ears anyway. It was either do this or keep playing Free Rice all day, and I think I've donated enough rice already this month... Anyway, thanks for the cookie! I made a userbox for it. :D —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to say that you've been doing more work lately than the rest of us combined. Thank you. Felix Omni Signature.png 04:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
o: All done, great job there. =) J Striker 08:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Special:Newpages 'Nuff said. Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 06:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Here's the official appreciation: Lyssa's Toast of Appreciation. Same effects though, cuz I kind of lumped all the cool effects I can think of into one big package already. -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 23:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot Mode.. Disabled (Concise descriptions)

Hehe, nice job with all of the concise descriptions. :) —MaySig.pngWarw/Wick 12:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot mode, wha? >.> Just another case where I was momentarily bored with playing the game, browsing the wiki, noticed something missing, and decided I'd add it. And I do kinda go into a "bot mode" mentally with tasks like this, or the weapons QR project... which I need to finish up soon... right after I finish this... <.< —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, question: I noticed that some people who'd already added concise descriptions had wikified them, while others didn't. My opinion is that everything's already wikified in the standard description, so there's no need to wikify the concise one as well. Was there a discussion on this somewhere that I should read? —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Drat, while you're adding the concide descriptions it's not updating the Category:Skills_missing_concise_description category correctly, 'suppose I'll be making some null edits to update the category. --OrgXSignature.jpg 18:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I believe that's happening because the skill articles get that cat from the skill template, within which the cat is only specified in an {{ #if: | | }} parser function. I think I read somewhere that the wiki should update stuff like that once per day, but I dunno if Wikia has it set up that way or not. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Good work! And no, there hasn't been a discussion (that I know of), but since as far as I know the general rule is one link to a specific thing in an article, only the full description would have the links. --Shadowcrest 18:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, it's usually 1 link per section, but both descriptions are still in the same section. That's what I'm going with then. I won't bother de-wikifying ones that already have it, though. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh crap, I really screwed up. The coding includes any page that the template is included on, including using templates that are transcluded by another template.. Dammit! —MaySig.pngWarw/Wick 19:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bah, I'm relying too much on Firefox's auto-complete to fill in the edit note. So if anyone sees weird notes (like the one on Oppressive Gaze saying the concise description is identical), just ignore them. ^^; —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 20:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Whew... All player-usable skills (including all PvE skills, temporary PvE skills except for Category:Allegiance Title skills and three of the Celestial Skills (monk, mesmer, assassin), and the Bonus Mission Pack skills except for Spectral Agony (hex) (I didn't feel like playing all the way through that one right now)) have a concise description. Big thanks to Jedi Rogue, Progger, Organism X, Theruon, and everyone else who had already added some - if you people hadn't started it, I never would've. And with that, I die for the night. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 07:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

hey (Concise - why wikify)

I got more info on the concise stuff. But I have to find it. But I do know that it said to wikify stuff in the concise descriptions; it'll make sense when I find the post. --Shadowcrest 00:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Found it. Read Jedi's posts here. --Shadowcrest 00:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Fudgemuffins. *grumblegrumble* —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 01:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Just so you know, I don't expect you to go back through all the ones you've done and correct them :P --Shadowcrest 01:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I hate to do a job half-assed, even if I didn't realize it at the time. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 01:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd finished E, W, and most of R before you posted about this, and since then I was able to go back through all of them and wikify the concise descriptions. While doing so, I also took the liberty to standardize the wikification of both forms of skill description:
  • I left out links for terms like foe, damage, attack, etc. These are really basic things that anyone playing GW should already know, and they were already un-linked most of the time anyway.
  • I enforced wikification of Energy, since it was almost always linked, and I added links for adrenaline, which wasn't usually linked, because it is also "fuel" for skills, just like Energy is.
  • I fixed the capitalization of terms in the standard description after I noticed they were screwed up. In-game, Energy, Health, and condition names are nearly always capitalized, and other terms like spirit, skill, spell are hardly ever capitalized. However, I noticed Spirit, Spell, and Skill (among others) capitalized quite often in the descriptions here. Did they used to be capitalized and Anet changed it?
  • I enforced one-link-per-section within the standard descriptions. Most Nature Rituals had Spirit linked every time it appeared for some reason, and a lot of skills with both primary and bonus damage would have damage linked twice.
I'm gonna crash now, but I'll be back on this tomorrow. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 06:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, the monk skills seem to have a 50/50 split on wikifying heal. Since Heal redirects to Health, and most descriptions have both anyway, I wonder if this one really needs to be wikified. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 17:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Btw what's wrong with placing the concise description on the bottom of the template code? --Progr.png -- talkpage 16:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with it exactly, it just makes more sense for it to directly follow the full description - especially when I'm comparing the wikification. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah ok, I'll think of it if I add more of them in the future. Luckily I did it right with the prot skills. --Progr.png -- talkpage 16:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Editing Concise descriptions too? ;)

greetings theruon 18:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict - I demand your comment stay! XD) Yep. I'm going through by the standard profession order, and I'm double-checking everything that already has it, too. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm using the Category:Skills_missing_concise_description in the alphabetic order. Thanks to an edit of yours on one of my Skills - Castigation Signet - I'm going through them again - Wikifying >.< theruon 19:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Make sure you're using correct capitalization, too - I notice you capitalized "Skill" in you comment there, so I thought I'd mention it. I'm seeing a lot of normal descriptions that have capitalized words that shouldn't be, as I noted in the above section. I haven't seen this in any of the concise descriptions (I haven't been looking at who added each one) yet, but just in case. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I usually don't capitalize anything, but when I do, I capitalize too much... But as I am just transcribing the descriptions from my guild's Priest of Balthazar that won't be a problem. theruon 19:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Coolies. I'll be watching for the inevitable edit conflicts when we cross paths. ;) —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
That won't be a problem 'today' - my bed is waiting ;) theruon 20:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


Star.png The OHWOW AWARD!
You deserve it, great work on those concise skill descriptions. /highfive. :D

RT | Talk 20:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, keep up the good work.Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 19:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Thirded --Progr.png -- talkpage 23:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Wow, thanks everyone. I've still got the PvE-only skills to do to finish the "equippable" skills, but that won't take long. Oh yeah - I can't do the Kurzick/Luxon skills because I don't have enough faction with either one, so someone else will have to do those. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 02:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
You're amazing. Lost-Blue 02:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Kurzick/Luxon skills are done ;)Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 17:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


You thought I wouldn't find out? Where's my credit for the userpage rip off? lolEreanorsign.jpgreanor 19:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, I just forgot. ^^; Of course, I've modified the tabs enough that they aren't all that much like yours anymore, although the layout of the main page still is. I'll still put a little "inspired by" note in there. ;) —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 02:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Cool! Thanks.Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 15:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

more consise work

monster skills won't show up in the needs concise cat because they have a nocats attribute. If you want to add concise descriptions to monster skills, that would probably be more useful than what you're currently doing. —JediRogue 22:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know about those, but they'll require me actually going out and finding the monsters in order to screenshot the skills... unless this other idea works out. All in-game text is stored as Unicode text within gw.dat, so it's just a matter of finding the descriptions and then matching them up to the right skills, which shouldn't be too difficult. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Whoo! I now have concise descriptions for 99.6% of everything in the game (2302 total skills/effects/etc that I found in gw.dat). I'm gonna have lunch, then start adding them to the wiki. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 18:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for clarifying your position to me. I've made you into the official House-Cleaning Admin. Welcome to the team. Also, please add yourself to the admin info page at your convenience. Thanks, and happy hunting. :) Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 03:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow, less than a week ago I hadn't really thought about becoming an admin, but then Gigathrash put up the RfA, I had an email convo with Entropy, and now here I am. It's been a crazy few days, that's for sure.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to serve the wiki in this capacity. I'll continue making mainspace contributions, of course (the weapon QRs and CSDs for monster skills still need to be finished...), but I suppose now I'll dedicate most of my time to deleting the hordes of unused images and the other "housekeeping" that needs to be done (while I don't particularly want to be known as the GWiki Janitor, I guess that's pretty much what I volunteered for XD).
Is there any sort of "admin guide" that I should look at - something that explains the sysop tools, etc.? Also, what will be expected of me outside of the janitorial duties? I'll take care of my admin info in the morning, right now I need to crash. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 05:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion: create an account called "IshmaelDr" or something, and experiment your powers upon that defenseless shoe of yours. Or go make your personal sandboxs and play with deletion and protection etc. As for expected duties, I expect you to come up with something clever for next year's April Fools. Or else, you shall learn of the consequences of my disappointment on that fateful day!!! Oh yeah, and my laundry. -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 09:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You've been Adminated

Grats man! Hope you put em to good use. --Powersurge360 03:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


Welcome, have fun being a pillar of our community!--Gigathrash sig G.jpgìğá†ħŕášħTalk 23:45, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, thanks to you I get to clean up all you guys' messes now. :P —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 21:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I like the fact that you withdrew, and Entropy then gave you the powers RT | Talk 21:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
It happened because of an email conversation I had with her afterwards. I wanted to clarify some things and get a better explanation of what she said in her vote, and it ended up with her asking if I'd like to help with these housekeeping duties, and I basically said, "Sure!". And so far today, I've been too busy digging the concise skill descriptions out of gw.dat that I've completely neglected all that. XD I'll get some done this evening, though. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 21:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
No worries, you might want to bookmark Category:Candidates for deletion + Category:Candidates for banning, just in case, imo, keep doing what your doing, and if you see something that could benefit with the tools, use em RT | Talk 21:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, copying User:Entropy/monobook.js to your /monobook.js is useful tool for such tasks. Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 05:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
A fraction late but congrats, not entirely sure what the, "I have spoken to the user privately and this is going to be a special case." means as I haven't been around but I'm sure it's all good. I've actually been RC patrolling a bit today but you wouldn't know it as I haven't actually edited anything yet... Every contribution in the last two hours seems to be from someone I don't know editing another person I don't knows user page!! :/ So it's nice to see someone I recognise even if I still don't know what's going on! --Xasxas256 02:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
My .js is a viable alternative to yours though, mine puts that topbar to use --Gimmethegepgun 02:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't Forget

To delete the pages you left behind Mr. Admin. --Powersurge360 03:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd probably leave the old pages, they fall under "Incorrect capitalizations" on GW:REDIRECT and they were previous official spellings. Also saves a whole lot of broken redirects. --Xasxas256 03:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
That's exactly what I was thinking. In fact, I was surprised that "Destructive Was Glaive" didn't already exist as a redirect. I fixed all links to the template, so I'll delete that, and the old image itself, but I'll leave the old article and the image page as redirects. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 03:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


really a doctor? Lost-Blue 04:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Nah, I chickened out of the PhD program. XD Realized that research, as done at a university, wasn't something I enjoyed. I'd already done enough work for a Master's, so at least I had something to show for two years of grad school.
I got the nickname waaaay back in high school, actually. It was completely random - a friend of mine, who had just decided that he would be known for the day as "Doctor Bobo" (I think from MST3K), decided that I needed a nickname too, so he dubbed me "Ishmael" (from Moby Dick). He then granted me the title of "doctor" so that we would be equal partners in "Dr. Bobo and Dr. Ishmael's Fried Pickle Stand." (We were monitoring a room at All-Region Band tryouts, and we were very, very bored.) For some incomprehensible reason, my nickname stuck. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
LOL Lost-Blue 23:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


You've been working so hard for so long, I'm tired just watching you work lol Lost-Blue 05:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Bah, you should see me writing Perl scripts at work. The only reason I can stop working at 5 is because I'm salaried, meaning I don't get paid for overtime. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 05:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

unused images

If you ever come across an unused image that might be useful for something, add it to GuildWiki:Non-orphaned images. Sometimes there is an unused image that's rather nice that I always feel like I don't want to delete because it might be useful later to someone. Just thought I'd pass that on to you. —JediRogue 15:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I've been keeping a list of those, and I'll add them in large batches so I don't make hundreds of edits to that page. And of course, if there's any I delete that you or anyone else thinks might still be useful, feel free to revert it. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 15:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, found a few that I'm not sure what to do with (also not sure where I should ask this, but I assume that at least a few people are watching my page now, so...). They're screenshots of the Prophecies henchmen with their new quotes that were added in Feb 2007. They're >100KB (some near 200), only linked from the henchmen's talk pages, and pretty useless now. Should they be left alone, or should I delete them and edit the talk pages to remove the links? —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


Do you mind adding a reason for deletion, as IDK why you are deleting those images Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg + Talk 18:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll start doing that. Mostly they've been unused character pics uploaded by users whose last contribution was at least a few months ago (~150 from User:CarTune o_O). I did try to leave a reason if it was an NPC map or other "useful" image that got renamed or replaced. For the rest, I just didn't know what to put; I guess "unused" would be good enough? —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 18:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Should be fine, unused, generic name etc Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg + Talk 18:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, you are much better than me at getting stuff done, Top notch! Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg + Talk 19:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! The huge number of unused character pics is making it easy to get through a lot quickly. It's amazing how many of them there are - a lot from users who abandoned this wiki, of course, but also a lot where users uploaded the exact same image immediately after the first one with a slightly different name. Or uploaded a new version at a later time, but used a different name because they didn't realize they could update the original one. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Good work, thanks for doing that. Really. :) RoseOfKali RoseOfKaliSIG.jpg 20:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

And again, I'm sure you are a robot, no human could stay up deleting stuff for a whole day... :P Thoughtful's RT sig test.jpg + Talk 05:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't deleting stuff all day... >.> I had to do stuff at work this afternoon, and I actually played GW for most of the evening. Still, at the rate I'm going, we should have an empty unusedfiles page in about a week (if not less). —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 05:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone who can compete with me in the human robot department? Blasphemy! Oh well, my title as the deletion king is still secure, at least :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 03:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
o_O Well damn, I don't think there's enough things left for me *to* delete. Quick, someone go spam-upload a couple thousand pointless images! XD —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 05:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


every time i look at at recent changes for the last 3 days all youve been doing is woking.... dont you sleep, eat, pee, etc.? ( 06:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

XD Yes, I do all that and more - you should certainly notice gaps in my "work" for the times when I sleep, since I actually get ~8 hours every night. The bathroom's about 10 feet away. And I actually get some GW in - vanquished a couple areas earlier in the week, got a shiny new Deldrimor Focus last night, and finally did two of the Titan Quests tonight. After which I broke open a 250 mL bottle of sake, which is nearly empty now. Hmm... perhaps that's a good reason to stop for the night, I might be drunk enough to start putting snarky comments in the delete reasons... >.> —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 06:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
250 mL? That's like beaker sized. Felix Omni Signature.png 06:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Beakers come in all sorts of sizes. I've seen them from 5 mL all the way to 5 L. But I get what you're saying. Sake is pretty strong, though - stronger than most wines, but not quite as strong as hard liquor. The one I had last night was 20% alcohol, so I think it would've been equivalent to about 4 pints of Guinness. Which, for me, is a lot. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

After you run your bot

Leave a messageon my talk. A lot of the links to PvX will link to build pages that have been moved/deleted, and as a PvX admin I get to see the little "View or restore xx deleted revisions?" messages, so I can find where the ones that were just moved more easily. Plus, I'm basically a bot, so it shouldn't take long to fix them :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 00:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a good idea. My bot can write a local file with the name of each article and the link within it that was modified. Then you can just give me a list of "old build name" -> "new build name", and I'll run the bot again to fix those links. Just have to wait on Kyle to flag the bot accounts... >.> —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 00:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

: )

To put it simply, you haven't disappointed me, and I am very pleased with how much work you have done on deletions. The lists have never looked so clean. And with a bot to fix the Builds: redlinks, it will only improve.

Keep up the good work and know I'm proud of you. Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 03:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

*bows* Thank you, very much. As I told you, all I needed was incentive... and I think the delete logs speak for themselves. XD I've made sure to keep myself involved with mainspace edits (and to keep playing GW) while doing all that, so I don't get burned out too quickly. And I've got more ideas for bots to help with non-subjective cleanup tasks, including ways to get the news articles off the dead-end and orphaned pages. If there's anything specific you'd like me to focus on besides unusedimages, just let me know. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Ish

Hope you dont mind- I've started before you :) —HelloWarw/Wick 15:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Builds wanted pages

My idea is to make a bot run for each build, replacing the red link with an external link to the closest existing build in PvX. I can make the list of correspondance.Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 15:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

That's exactly what I'm doing - it will scan Special:Wantedpages, for each link beginning with "Team" or "*/*" (where * = prof abbr), scan What_links_here for that link, and edit every page there to replace [[{build name}]] with [[PvX:Build:{build name}|]]. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
The problem is the names aren't the same, you need a specific run for each build.Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 16:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
If you want to go ahead and make that correspondence list right now, the script can simply reference it and replace the build names as it goes. Put them in a file formatted as "Old Build Name\tNew Build Name" and it can do [[{old build name}]] --> [[PvX:Build:{new build name}|]] —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
@_@ You'll have to talk me through this. All I know is R/N Touch Ranger turns into R/N PvE Touch Ranger. Now what?Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 16:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, it'll turn into Touch Ranger or something similar. --- Ohaider!-- (s)talkpage 16:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Just make an article here where each line consists of the old build name (from our wantedpages), a separator character ( , or ; should work fine), and the new build name (on PvX). Like this:

R/N Touch Ranger;R/N PvE Touch Ranger

Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 18:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
K, ty.Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 00:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

User:Wizardboy777/Build name changes (if you hit edit, it's one build per line). Since there was at least one that linked to a guide, I supplied namespaces for everything. Also, there's one that was moved to userspace, and several that have been deleted (clearly marked). That's all of them in wantedpages that have 10+ links. Feel free to edit it or whatever if you need a different format for the bot or anything like that. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 02:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast! Let's see then... yeah, that'll work. The deleted ones I'll probably leave out of my local copy, and just apply PanSola's new {{DeletedLink}} to them like the ones under 10 links. The userspace one, hmm... I'll probably "delete" those links too. Much thanks for this! —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 02:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

its botting time!

Check out GuildWiki:Bot tasks‎. Please use this to keep everyone informed of your bot's actions and junk. Feel free to add any missing info. —JediRogue 20:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


It is nice to see u improving it, but how about inputting on it? lol --Shadowphoenix 04:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Edits are input by definition... Felix Omni Signature.png 04:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
*grabs Felix by the ear* GET BACK IN UR CAGE! Now stay...... --Shadowphoenix 04:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Shadowphoenix used Ear Bite! Felix Omni Signature.png 04:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Shadowphoenix is using Puppet Master on Felix Omni! --Shadowphoenix 04:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm typing something, geez. :P —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Y o u a r e t y p i n g t o s l o w lol --Shadowphoenix 04:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Wrong "too". Powersurge360 Melancholia 04:36, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Apparently so - I got ec'ed twice when posting the previous comment. XD —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

i wrote you

a delightful rhyming description for Charr Flameshielder.

There once was a young Charr Flameshielder.
He was both a fire and Prot-wielder.
A brash Mes hero
Dared call him "E-Mo"
And so the young Flameshielder keeled 'er.

D: don't murder me. Maui sig.png 08:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

OMG :D HimmTaeguk (T/C) 08:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Title Skills Idea

Hi, Seen as though you are the cleaning up things, I've had an idea to tidy up the Title Skills (e.g. Eternal Aura).

Here Goes: I have created a new Template in my user space User:Himm Taeguk/MyTemplate that demonstrates the effect. There are two templates that do the work (called Temp1 and Temp2 for now). What I'm thinking is adding a new Parameter to the Skill box for Title Rank Progression. Then if this has a value use my Temp1 as the Progression and my Temp2 will be used as the Progression row.

This should make it look a little more consistant with the other Skills.

This is just an idea, you or any other admins, can change/ignore it if you like.

Let me know what you think. HimmTaeguk (T/C) 08:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. I'd been thinking for a while that we should do something like this, but I've been caught up in other projects. User:PanSola is updating the skillbox right now with a revised categorizing scheme - he might be able to include this in the same update. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 14:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Do all skills depending on title tracks have the same max number of ranks? -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 14:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Everything has 10 except for the Allegiance rank titles, they have 12. That jolly well clunkers things up a bit, donnit? XD That would require a third set of progression templates, obviously. Would it be worth it? —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 14:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Do they follow a consistent linear rounded progression like normal skills? -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 15:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Template documentation

Heya, I'd like to advocate for putting template documentation on a sub-page transcluded, that way the main template can be protected while the documentation remain freely editable and can be improved by anyone. -User:PanSola (talk to the Follower of Lyssa.png) 04:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you'd done that for the skill box, but apparently I didn't make the connection that I should do the same for the effect box. ^^; I'll go do that right now. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Err... maybe I was mistaken, it's not on the skill box... >.> um... —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

GuildWiki:Wikia Migration/Username Conflicts

Your username is on there... Jennalee 12:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Because I registered it. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 14:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Slightly worried it wasn't you :P Jennalee 23:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

{{user skill box}} enforcement

You should really make sure it WORKS first. You have to include the full [[image:whatever.jpg]] coding for the image. You also have to specify the Profession icon at the moment, but I'm hope to change that soon.Entrea SumataeEntrea [Talk] 03:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Bah! I was hoping no one would really care - most of the ones I've changed so far are from users whose last contribution was over 6 months ago. A lot of them didn't have icons, anyway. But since you complained... :P I'll go fix the ones that did have icons. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 03:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
You templated my talk page AFTER I fixed all of them. It was amusing. Felix Omni Signature.png 03:08, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
XD Ah well, you can remove it then. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 03:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Could the bot do this? your screwing up my precious recent changes. (i would not be adverse to your using the bot for manual tasks of this nature if it has to be done manually. however should be discussed with others first)—JediRogue 15:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the bot wouldn't be able to tell if the template is auto-including an icon of the same name as the skill. I'm going to be in a training class all afternoon anyway, so RC will be fine for now. ;) —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 15:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, duh - I can just log in as Bot ishmael and edit as that account - they'll still get marked as bot edits. I'll be sure to do that tonight. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Miniature Abyssal

May i ask you where you got the icon for it? It has 64x64px dimensions, accordingly i suppose you got it from gw.dat using GWDatBrowser? How did you get the icon; did you see it ingame? — Zerpha Elixir Of Valor.jpg Zerpha The Improver 18:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

One of my characters got it for their birthday present. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 20:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Ah, ok. :) — Zerpha Elixir Of Valor.jpg Zerpha The Improver 22:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Summary Redirects

They aren't working. You have to go in and do each redirect. Powersurge360Violencia 04:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC) puts a "==Summary==" header above the redirect. wtf. that bloody sucks. >< —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
lol Man, you had alot of em. Powersurge360Violencia 04:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Ergo, the bloody sucking. Sometimes being a human robot backfires on me. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 04:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the problem is that you're a human working as if you were a robot.Ereanorsign.jpgreanor 05:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thats an understatement O.o I don't think I could make my arms move that fast if I wasn't even aiming for the keyboard. CorrectJeans 16:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
There's your problem - moving arms is wasted energy when working on a computer (not to mention it makes you look silly Flailing about like that ;) And you might hurt yourself). Using keyboard shortcuts means you only have to move your fingers. Some days I have to take a break from editing simply because my left pinky gets sore from holding Ctrl so much. XD —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
A ha ha ha. That's awsome. CorrectJeans 17:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, Well Then

So I just saw that you farm Obsidian Shards. Well, I'm trying for obsidian armor, and it's going to take me forever to be able to afford it, but if you get a stack of 105 shards, I'll buy em for like 100 less than what the trader would've charged me at the time. I save cash and you make cash, win-win. lol, you game? Hell, I'll buy however many you have, up to 105. Powersurge360Violencia 06:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I'm saving them up to buy my first set of Obsidian armor (dunno which char yet). Yes, I know I'm about 3 years behind the times on that. :P —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 22:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Lol, that sucks. Alright, well, if you farm up too many, the offer's good. Powersurge360Violencia 22:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Bit Harsh!

Dont you think? Edit and move sysop? O__o 16:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I just corrected it. -_- —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
RC sez I edited before you reprotected.. But RC can be wrong.. 16:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I've noticed that - the other day I saw people preemptively reverting vandalism. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Somewhat funny, ya. By the way, youre name is Dr ishmael, and your sig says Ishmaerl. , so technically its brekaing gw:sign. I think.. ;P 16:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't think so: "A substituted signature should resemble to some degree the username it represents. Signatures that obscure an account name to the casual reader may be seen as disruptive." I think a single capitalization difference would still "resemble to some degree".
In other news, the vandal is now spamming that YouTube link on all Nightfall missions. How do we deal with this? —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh heck. We warned him to not put it up, so it could be considered vandalism. --- Ohaider!-- (s)talkpage 16:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Banning is fine with me, but he's using a proxy - I've seen three IPs so far. We could keep banning his new IPs, but I didn't know if there was a better way to deal with that. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
If he uses a small range of IPs, a range-ban would work? No idea how it works tho >< --- Ohaider!-- (s)talkpage 16:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Range-ban would be 123.45.*.* or something like that, I think - it would work against someone who simple keeps reconnecting to their ISP to change their IP. Using a proxy, you can change the entire IP, though, so range-ban wouldn't stop them. In any case, he seems to have stopped for now. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)