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:"I agree, your life sucks (1396) - you deserved it (4563)" No it doesn't. Btw, did you ever even just sit down and watch an episode without prejudice? Do that, and come back to us. Only ''then'' are you allowed to say MLP isn't good. --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]][[User:El_Nazgir|<font color="Green">'''El_Nazgir'''</font>]] 19:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
:"I agree, your life sucks (1396) - you deserved it (4563)" No it doesn't. Btw, did you ever even just sit down and watch an episode without prejudice? Do that, and come back to us. Only ''then'' are you allowed to say MLP isn't good. --[[Image:El Nazgir sig.png|Talkpage]][[User:El_Nazgir|<font color="Green">'''El_Nazgir'''</font>]] 19:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
::I watched the first episode of the original show (I'm a hipster) without prejudice, it bored me. [[User:Scythe|∵Scythe∵]] 19:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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*explodes the world* Jink 14:55, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Got your message via IRC

Just wanted to let you know I got it. I was following the file name a little too literally, on top of rushing through trying to get it done before I had to leave again :P Aloha, Mauirixxx 05:24, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

WoC area dominance

I saw your revert of on the Winds of Change page. I agree with the revert since some of his info was wrong and the rest didn't make much sense. I just thought that it might be relevant to note that while areas affected by WoC are unaffected if there is a pre-WoC character in the party, having the quest to cleanse the area that you're in will cause the WoC enemies to spawn even with a pre-WoC character in the party. I had this happen trying to get to Vizunah Square (Local Quarter) for the first time and bringing a foreign character who had Cleansing the Undercity and wanted access to the local side. --Kirbman sig.png Kirbman 17:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I can't really tell what you want help with

I won't be spot-checking any further since I don't know what it is you want.

You asked for help spot-checking. I checked and you reverted even though that skill's description displays incorrectly on today's wiki. From this example, I have no way of knowing what you consider a bug, let alone which might be resolved soon. 20:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

That specific instance is a bug with the pluralization regexes that I corrected on Thursday, but our wonderful Curse staff have been lazy-asses about getting it deployed.
What I want help with is verifying the skill stats - green numbers, energy, cast, recharge, etc. I thought that was pretty clear when I asked for people to "verify that I'm not screwing up the numbers." —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 20:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


It's an awesome song, but the one thing I don't like about it is that it has no climax. It starts calm, goes heavier, then calmer again in the solo and back to the heavier. It's always pretty much the same intensity throughout the whole song. --TalkpageEl_Nazgir 17:56, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Scar Tissue is truly a song without a climax, and with an even flatter intensity. At least with Californication you get a mini-climax with every refrain. [addendum] Interestingly, Scar Tissue charted higher than Californication (have to scroll to the Singles section, dunno why Album/Singles aren't actual headers) where they didn't both go to #1. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 14:29, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Eh, then I really prefer californication. Some of my favourite rocks songs ever are Stairway to heaven and Child in time. --TalkpageEl_Nazgir 16:00, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

template changes

Great job you are doing, but shouldn't you be doing this with a bot account, of a bot flag? Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 15:58, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

I've been criticized in the past for using the bot account to "hide" edits from RC, so recently I've tried to avoid using it unless the edits are truly bot-like. That is, the edit is simple, repeatable, and applied consistently to every article - i.e. something that can be done in AWB.
I don't consider these template updates to be simple. I have to paste in the new description/progression information (which I concatenate together in an Excel spreadsheet), type in the progression descriptions, check if my progression numbers differ from the existing numbers, delete the old description/progression information, and finally scan the output for any anomalies after saving the template.
I did use the bot account when I went back through the Assassin/Dervish skills to add the skill id parameter, which I had planned on including in this project from the start but failed to include in Excel's concatenation. That was a simple, repeatable edit.
I know it clogs up RC, but at least you can just exclude the Template namespace. If it's really that much of a bother, though, and "the community" gives me "permission" to use the bot account for this, I'm willing to reconsider my position. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 16:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I didn't realize the changes you are making are this compicated. Yes, I was annoyed that you cloged up RC so much. Now I know why. That also means I am not annoyed anymore. (That tip about hiding template space helps too.) You'd have my blessing about using a bot account, cause that makes it easier for the all of us. (exept maybe you?) Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 17:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
It would be a tiny complication for me, since I'd have to worry about switching back and forth to make any other edits. Since you're no longer annoyed, I'll just keep on as I have been unless someone else complains. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 18:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I find it all fascinating. :-) Do you check to make sure that the ids are correct? Ariyen 15:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
I did that a long time ago, using Cheat Engine to go through all 3000+ skill IDs when I first built my spreadsheet. When I did that, I tied each skill ID to the file ID and position of the text string for the skill name, description, and concise description. I've seen nothing to suggest that these IDs ever change, so I haven't bothered to double-check them. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 15:41, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

server error on your user page?

Going to your user page I get "HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request". umm... owch. lol. (using Google Chrome btw) Myth 22:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks like Curse borked the widgets again, I'll let Wyn know. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 22:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I noticed the "game updates" has been updated since the 16th. looking at the history I see User:Scythe usually does that, but his page appears to have a widget issue as well. I'm guessing the widget issue is related to the game updates not getting auto-sucked in? Myth 01:27, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
No, game updates are not automatic, because we have to put the wikilinks and formatting in manually. I used to do them, but I've slacked off the past few months. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 02:00, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Weapon Icons

Thanks for moving those! I've managed to create a photoshop batch action which converts the texmod-extracted icon bmps into pngs with transparency, but I still have to name the files manually! Since I mostly deal with images on the wiki, is there a way to enable me to move/rename them? might make things a bit easier when I stuff them up, lol. Cheers, → Dark.Morelia.sig.jpg Dark Morelia 09:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

That's a special permission only granted to certain user groups. Admins get it by default, and we also have a custom group called 'rollback' that was originally just for the rollback permission, but we later decided to add filemove to it. You'd have to ask one of the bureaucrats to add you to that group. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 13:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
A question about extracting icons from the GW.dat file: If I understand what you've written here correctly, one can extract the weapon icon from an .ffna file, is that right? Do I need to have an -imaged dat file to do this? and how on earth do you figure out which .ffna file contains which icon? I mainly ask because I'm missing a few separately-saved weapon icons needed to finish the navboxes, probably because my dat file got corrupted a while back and I had to nuke the whole thing and start over. Plus I don't have enough download quota to -image it at the moment, lol. → Dark.Morelia.sig.jpg Dark Morelia 03:23, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Just do what I said there, pretty much:
  1. Run a text search for the string "ATEXDXT3" in the FFNA files
  2. Delete everything preceding "ATEXDXT3"
  3. Save the remaining file with a .atex extension
  4. Use the ATEXReader to convert to .png
WARNING: Don't try to do this manually - there are over 5,000 icons in nearly 100k FFNA files. I wrote a Perl script to do steps 1-3 for me that I can post to Pastebin if you want.
I don't know if anyone has ever figured out what exactly an FFNA file is, so there's no way to know (from the dat file) what item an icon is associated with. (Even if we could read FFNA files, it may not help, since icons that get reused usually only have 1 FFNA file, so I'd guess it doesn't include item names in any case.) Basically I just used my own knowledge (and my wife's) to identify as many as I could, then I cross-referenced against GWW's item icons to get most of the rest. That's why when I find the icons for the new festival hats and post them to the wiki ahead of the actual finale (OMIGAWSH this year's Halloween hats are probably in there! I must finds them!), I can only identify them as "Hat A" or "Hat B". —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 03:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I get it now. I'd love that script please. I thought it was bad enough going through the 750-odd icons my dat had saved separately, but this will be a whole new order of "fun". *rolls sleeves up* → Dark.Morelia.sig.jpg Dark Morelia 04:05, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
[1] I put comments in to explain a few of the more obscure things happening in there. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 14:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
That worked brilliantly, thanks! I came out with 8,323 icons all together, which was pared down to 4,023 after deleting duplicates. Of those, around 920 are weapons. Some useless trivia for you.
I also found some interesting things I can't identify, dunno if they're something to do with the latest update or not, since this is the first time I've extracted from the dat. Probably the most interesting one is in 00138757.ffna, but there are a few others. → Dark.Morelia.sig.jpg Dark Morelia 11:18, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
8k, really? That's interesting, I only get 5k. Maybe your dat still has a ton of old, no-longer-used files in it that mine doesn't: I -image mine about every 3 months to keep it clean. (What's your total # of files according to GWUnpacker? I'm just under 176k.) Also, your file numbers won't match mine, because those are assigned by GWUnpacker sequentially as it parses the dat file (if we were to -image at the exact same time, we might have our files ordered exactly the same, but even then it's not guaranteed), so you'd have to actually upload the file for me to know what you're talking about. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 14:04, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Weapon Galleries

All the pictures in the weapon galleries are missing eg sorry if this isnt the right way to highlight this, not experienced with the wiki world of doing stuff, but seems data is missing/corrupted?

I have no clue why it's not working. The query is returning the correct list of pages, but when it goes to format the output, nothing gets generated. I don't know enough about how the DPL backend works to figure it out. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 17:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
I checked out a few other pages that uses the same/similar output. I think it's missing a few codes, etc. for it to actually work correctly. I might could do some tests over in a sandbox first to see if what I'm thinking would work. However, I'd like other input. Ariyen 01:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
It's not "missing" anything, because those galleries worked a couple weeks ago. I'm guessing something got changed on the backend (possibly the same thing that currently has the widgets borked), because nothing at all changed on the wiki. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 01:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

do your job

gotta love the way he implies you get paid for editing the wiki User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png A F K When Needed 19:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Eh, "do your job" has become a generic phrase used in reference to any sort of task that might be assigned to a person, whether it be compensated or not.
What I love is that if I were really "doing my job" (as opposed to being the better person and utterly ignoring the personal attacks), I would be banning his ass 100 ways from Monday. FYI: it's Rask. Don't let him know I know that. :P But I've learned my lesson about taking actions like that when I'm personally involved in a situation. Jink and Giga are both aware of the situation and I trust them to take action when appropriate. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 19:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
You're right that it does not need to be compensated, but (as has been pointed out) the task has not been assigned to you. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png A F K When Needed 20:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Doh, how could I forget my own standpoint so quickly? Argh! Thanks for setting me straight.
However, it does work from his standpoint, since he (however incorrectly) assumed that it had been assigned to me. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 20:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I figured it was Rask, since the last time he was around, he was Ish bashing too. Still, you handled yourself well. Good job! Also thanks to the Gigster, of course. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 20:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
It's always Rask. No exceptions.--Łô√ë Gigathrash sig G.jpgîğá†ħŕášħ 17:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


For fixing up my mistakes in my most ambitious wiki project to date. There will probably be more yet, lol. → Dark.Morelia.sig.jpg Dark Morelia 23:39, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm easily bored.

Have some ponies.

--Łô√ë Gigathrash sig G.jpgîğá†ħŕášħ 02:46, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

This header is now the official pony thread. If you see any other pony threads, direct them here.
"Pinkie Pie, you're a genius!" - "No I'm not, I'm a chicken, SQUAAAAK!" --TalkpageEl_Nazgir 16:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Eurobeat is one of my secret pleasures (that + Initial D + m.o.v.e + Mazda RX-7/8 all tied together), and this guy has created some aMAZing Eurobeat remixes of the pony songs. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 17:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
So far my complete favourite of all the pony-related music I've heard so far. --TalkpageEl_Nazgir 18:15, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Woot, I like PPS's remixes too, but I hadn't heard that one yet. Awesome. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 18:22, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
MLP FIM as sung by the United States Marine Corps.--Łô√ë Gigathrash sig G.jpgîğá†ħŕášħ 18:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Ugh, I can't stand those. It was funny the first time I heard one (think it was Cupcakes), but now it's just irritating. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken.gif 18:36, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

{ri}[2]. The WORLD agrees with me! Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 18:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

"I agree, your life sucks (1396) - you deserved it (4563)" No it doesn't. Btw, did you ever even just sit down and watch an episode without prejudice? Do that, and come back to us. Only then are you allowed to say MLP isn't good. --TalkpageEl_Nazgir 19:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
I watched the first episode of the original show (I'm a hipster) without prejudice, it bored me. ∵Scythe∵ 19:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC)